WHY I'M NOT GETTING BOTTOM SURGERY- TRANSGENDER FTM | NOAHFINNCE
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WHATS YOU GUYS’ OPINION ON BOTTOM SURGERY?
Definitely depends on the person.
NoahFinnce i think it depends really but I wouldn’t personally have it because the results don’t currently seem worth it to me?
Good for whoever wants it or whatever like you do you but I'm not one of those people.
My opinions are the same as the ones stated in the video.
Doesn’t seem worth the risk for me
*Why I'm not getting bottom surgery*
"I'm already a bottom"
Me °////°
Lmaooo
@Jack Yale bruh what
Not funny
(Top surgery)
ok i agree 100% like let’s see where it is in 10 years
Alanna O'leary no because it’s not really attached to your body.
@Alanna O'leary nope
Ohhh my shit I watch you as well, hi sam
Heyy sam
Hey sam
“I guess this is my coming out as a bottom video”
Lulu Belle 69 likes the perfect number
I READ THAT AS SOON AS HE SAID IT 😂😂😂
I want male genitals but I find the current options too risky and not worth it, so I don't want bottom surgery. I plan on getting top surgery in the future, though.
Same
Same for me too
I agree.. I feel like I’m all good with what I have currently but if the technology gets better and people get a lot better results I would reconsider getting bottom surgery😊✌️
Well I hope they get better by the time I can get it
Same
Not getting bottom surgery is completely fine and understandable. Do what’s right for you. Your body, your decision. We’ll always support you.
Yeet
Good comment tho
Unus annus
Memento Mori and I agree
i look forward to being insulted by noah with every intro
Yeetus yeetus
Same
Same here
and yelled at thru out the whole video.
zoey dawn And outro lol
Noah: “I guess this is my “coming out as a bottom” video
Me: *chokes on my toast*
😂😂😂😂
Mmm, toast.
I’m 11 and trans (girl to boy) and I am having trouble like living day to day life as a guy not a girl and I get depressed almost everyday. But u have helped ALOT and I know a lot more than I did thank you
Jamie
You can't get depressed everyday, either you are depressed or not.
@@lulianjuliuswassbach I think they mean they're depressed everyday (all the time)
i’m 14 n ftm, we should be friends!
@@lulianjuliuswassbach okay bipolar erasure hours lol
@@sleepygene well hi you trans?
...so the underachievers thing really stuck huh
Really... I rewatched it couple of times to confirm... Y start a video with negative line. Although I agree you say it sarcastically or may be trying to be funny or less serious... Wat ever.. Let's spread positivity in this negative world
You have no idea lmao
I know lots of people on the internet say this, but...you're at 666 likes.
@@Router-we2eh what u do mean dear
@@lemiin_ can u explain the joke... So that I could enjoy it as well
*Someone meeting a trans person*
Brain: Don’t say it
Don’t say it
Don’t say it
Person: So have you had... *THE* surgery
Yes. I always wonder like what is the magical power of Trans people's genitals that everyone wants to know about them
well bc if you say you're a transgender man you would think that person no longer has a vagina and now has a penis. Correct me if I'm wrong though. I just don't understand how changing your appearance and taking testosterone makes you no longer a female.
Dutchy & Shaw D&M This might not make much sense but I’ll try. Trans people suffer from what’s called gender dysphoria which, in short, means your brain and body are different. In your brain you develop as one gender but your body has developed differently to that. Because of this trans people often start to hate their bodies, dislike their voice, etc. To alleviate some of the hatred/discomfort that trans people feel about the difference between their mind and body you need to make them match each other in one way or another. (Make the outside match the inside basically). Currently there is no known way to change the way that your brain is, so it’s easier for trans people to change their appearance, take hormones and sometimes get surgery to change their body to match their brain. While technically a trans mans body was female, his mind never really was. Trans men aren’t really “no longer a female” because their mind was never female anyway
*Kalvin Garrah has left the chat*
Wheeze
??? Kalvins best friend isn’t getting bottom surgery and he’s said that he is fine with it
quinnhasnolife it’s a joke 😂
Lightning23 sorry i’m a dumbass ss
quinnhasnolife r/woooosh
Noah-fication squad where you at?
Noahfinnce but your joke was lame
Fuck
+noahfinnce Me daddy lol
@@matthewsperling1122 just no he has a boyfriend
@@NOAHFINNCE o.o
Noah, an achiever: would be nice to have a willy but i am too fussy
Me, an underachiever: haha silly willy for a fussy wussy
Doctors, therapist, psychiatrist, nurses and psychologist:
Lies, and lies, they are sharing you their lies. And you believe them daily, as you go and ruin your own lives.
Lies, oh lies, they know not how to care. They know not how to love, what its to have a heart warmly beating in your chest.
They have lost their mind, they have gone mad and they drag you with them into the outer darkness of insanity.
Seek ye GOD and get your mind back, get back your life and your will to live, escape the madness.
Your are not trans or any other lie, which you daily believe.
You are FOOLS, who are deceived daily.
You reject the BIBLE - the only source of truth, thats why lies you buy and suffer thereafter.
To believe trans lies, one must got to forget, why was gender given in the 1st place.
Genesis 9:7
And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.
Sexual abuses every soul has lived through, every one carries the traumas.
It is not GOD, toward whom we should be angry. Its the ones amongst us, who have once lost their minds:
through the same abuse, that you are suffering, carrying all the damaged form the birth to the death, haven`t been cared for.
And the influences of this world, are as strong as these are, no child is kept safe.
Marriages have changed, many in love with bottles, eating away their brains.
Many love smoking, burning away their lungs.
Many love fornication and abusements.
They all hate their skin, in which they live, cause they allowed the world in.
Lies stay lies, no matter how often given. If the end result is death or a lifelong suffering, you`re then missing love.
I had first stage Phalloplasty i am 4 months and 25 days post op unfortunately I can't stand up to pee yet (it would be my second stage) I haven't had a complication yet I have sensation everywhere, I never felt more comfortable with the lower area in my life, it passes too
I won't reply to rude comments
@@Bloody_Corpses Cool for you dude ! Hope next stages will go okay too :D
@@desprinkhaan641 thank you!! 😁
@@Bloody_Corpses Sucks to be you....no rude comments to ignore :P
@@_Piers_ I don't mind
Noah coming out as a bottom: "I don't... top"
Wait wait wait Noah has merch??? Sorry be right back
シSady no
Seeing how much you are changing feature wise is soooo amazing. Like you can see your shoulders getting wider and your jaw and it’s great to experience
I think it's really great to see you and other trans RUclipsrs talk openly about this! Transition can look so different for everyone for a huge variety of reasons and sometimes the media seems to only give us that one "every surgery possible" narrative. Thanks for always being so honest!
I’m just getting into the journey of transitioning (I’m still pre-T) and I’ve just been having SO MANY doubts about bottom surgery, this definitely helped me understand what I want a lot more and cleared my mind, specially since I’m such a coward haha, it also kinda made me realize it’s ok to be trans without a bottom surgery
I’m too young for T And it’s really annoying lololl
Be a masculine transman WITHOUT bottom surgery and you will be in demand.
please dont, i dont even think it will help you in many cases it can make you so much worse, down there doesnt define you please
The noah adams apple is showing! Ps: u look skinnier...like less fat more muscle? idk just saying
This is actually really interesting to hear someone talk about their thoughts on, like one of my close friends is trans and I know he has similar views on this topic but isn’t like hella comfortable talking about it which is obviously understandable but like go off Noah we stan an informative king
"It's not my favorite thing, but it works" WOW I relate to that so much. It does the job, I'm not too thrilled, but it is what it is 😅
4:51 dem cheekbones tho
OOH IM LOOKING AT THEM RIGHT NOW AND GURL MY PANTS ARE *WET*
Before he started T he was worried he would keep his chubby cheeks and he wanted the carved ones... oh well. Guess he had what he wanted after all☺️
@@kennymccormic5025 ew wtf?
@@bluejohnson6250 yessss
@@lunarsystem e
*tea*
i didn‘t know reading this comment and hearing sassy josh say *tea* in my head is what i needed but it absolutely fucking is
Hello josh
I love your profile pic ||-//
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Loved this video! I’m FTM as well and you hit the nail on the head on why I don’t want Bottom surgery as well! Glad to see there is someone else out there that feels the same way as me! I will be getting my Top Surgery soon! I have my consolation next week!
I stumbled upon you somehow here on the interwebs and I gotta say, I am a cis woman and I enjoy your videos because you are easy to listen to and learn from. I have trans and non-binary friends that I don’t know well enough yet to really talk about any of this personal stuff, and I absolutely appreciate the education you are putting out there. So thanks!
Always enjoy your chats especially because you are so honest and funny. I learn much about the things I don’t have any personal connections to. Thanks for that. You are an inspirational person.
Me, for 2 decades: having a dink would be great
My history with multiresistant, borderline chronic bladder infection: I‘m about to ruin this mans whole career
God im so glad theres someone else who shares the same views as me, I was starting to think there wasnt any other trans person who would choose to not have bottom surgery and I started to feel invalidated because of that, but hearing you say these points makes me feel so much better and like its completely reasonable. Thanks Noah!
damnnnn your voice really is doing things
I'm hoping that by the time I can actually get bottom surgery there will have been improvements to make it safer. Regardless of that though, I am going to get it when I can because I can't live with this dysphoria.
this was one of the first videos that I've watched from Noah like in may 2019 and as a 13yo cis girl who had just stumbled upon a trans channel for the first time i was confused of why would "ass surgery" be a step in transitioning lmao, and don't even get me started on all the names and definitions, i pretty much deleted all of them the moment i heard them because of being total unknown for me. well, the beginning of an amazing journey discovering all the lgbtq+ stuff in depth and realizing that i might be a bit part of it haha. stay safe
last time i was this early my mom still loved me
M E T O O B I T C H
What a mood
If you need it: \0_0/ here's a hug.
Hard
Oof
Totally respect your decision and of course love hearing your opinions on stuff. Stay you Noah, we certainly appreciate you to infinity and beyond.
I was born with a disability that has no cure etc. I don’t have options and that’s ok with me, I guess it helps to become comfortable with my disabledness. Lol
This would be a great video for you to revisit in a couple more years as you’ve already evolved so much since this was made.
Keep on being yourself!
You are adorable. Best of luck! You have a great attitude and you are helping people by sharing your story. ooo
Isn’t he though!
Thank you Noah for being so honest and brave. Because you talk about these topics so openly, people who have doubts can solve them. I’m just so curious about all this stuff because for me it’s like unknown and I want to know more about it so I can understad better people in situations like this.
I think your reasons are perfectly valid and truly makes a ton of sense. A 50% chance of complications is truly quite high. Obviously the choice is your choice. Its your body and as long as you are happy then thats all that matters. I started watching your vids a couple of days ago and I personally want to thank you for educating me and for your absolute honesty. I personally have nothing against trans, gay, bi, etc and you have truly expanded my knowledge base so thank you so much.
They have improved over the years with function and complication rates. So here's hoping they will continue to improve. Especially with the scar. That arm scar is definitely something that holds me back because scars are stories and I don't want the story I'd carry to be like oh you weren't born right so you had to take a chunk out of your arm to fix it.
It's not even just about looking at the arm scar and being reminded you're trans (for me), but I've already got a bunch of self-harm scars, and scars in all forms are very triggering for me, plus hating my body and having such a visible scar possibly giving me more reasons to hate myself - man.. Being trans and also gay sucks. I'm honestly happy for when I'll finally be in testosteron, but I'm scared of possible future boyfriend's because I'm as gay as one can be and for them to break up because dowm there I'm not..well, what a cis gay man would want to see😕
i can safely say that a lot of cis men will be fine without you having bottom surgery. im ftm and have been with quite a few cis men, and the majority haven't cared because they knew i didn't have bottom surgery. there's lot of cis men that are okay with that, you just have to look for them :).
I’m watching this after you’ve gotten the surgery, I’m so happy for you you’re so strong❤️
honestly you’re so amazing for talking about these things, i look up to you in many ways bc of your confidence (especially if you’re in a bad mood) i’ve been in a bad mood all day and if i had to talk about this today...i wouldn’t be cool about it at all 😂😂😂💕💕💕
Yeah, if I were a trans guy, especially a gay trans guy, I think I would just keep the original equipment. Top surgery seems like a no brainer. It doesn't seem that complicated. As long as you reach a point that you're comfortable and happy with your life. Take it one step at a time and measure your happiness along the way, weight the pros and cons.
You are just delightful!! I wish you a wonderful life!
hank you so much for speaking out on this. i feel the same way about a lot of the things you've said and i've felt entirely guilty for my thoughts and opinions and such.. tysm, ily!
How many times has Noah called us underachievers?
0 0 like maybe 5-ish
@@cupcakekoenigin1018 this was kind a rhetorical question but thank you anyway!
0 0 ohhh ok sorry
Honestly, I feel the same way. I'm not too dysphoric about my genital area anymore since T made it way more bearable, but yeah, if I could, I would get a penis, but I'm not satisfied witht the current options.
I don't want to mess up my arm. I don't want to have anything foreign in my body (like a pump). I don't want to have intensive surgery with high risks of complications. I don't want a penis that can't do half the things the real one does. I'm just not into it.
I'm personally waiting for them to developp the stem cells route, so they could grow a penis form our cells. That would be fantastic. Unfortunately, seems like that's not happening any time soon.
Notdog1996 we'll keep fighting for it. And working gonads, producing both viable sperm *and* testosterone, so you don't need to keep taking synthetic T.
Woah growing a penis out of my cells is interesting
This is super interesting and informative.
As a cis woman, I've never had to consider these surgeries but I did think about what it would be like to need them. It makes sense that not everyone would be willing to go through all that, with the risk of not being 100% happy with the results (looks, sensations...).
Obviously, many trans men have had the surgery and are very content with it, but I feel like it's important to hear your take on it. You're a man, botton surgery or not.
Excellent video. Thanks for sharing. The art work on your new merch is FANTASTIC!
IM SO EXCITED AND HAPPY AB UR TOP SURGERY ILY🤝💓
It’s a good topic to talk about and I think you’re brave to talk about it. If I was a trans man I would probably think along those lines as well, have the same thoughts as you. When they improve the skin graft possibilities it might be worth it, synthetic skin or grafted from an animal, that wouldn’t include nerves so maybe it’s not ideal anyway. Blessings from Sweden 🇸🇪
I'm really happy to know that someone feels like me. I don't like this part of my body but I would not be satisfied with the phaloplastie cause of the danger and the result. It's a personal opinion and I know that this surgery helped many men to feel better but I think it's not for me. Maybe one day we'll find a good solution.
Exactly
The way you talk/ your mouth moves is mesmerizing.
Thank you and this is what I was wanting answers on bottom surgeries for MTFs.
I like this guy
I'm so proud of you for coming out as a bottom, you're so brave 💖 #stopbottomoppression2k18
Im sorry if you felt forced to talk about it, being asked so many times! Either way thanks for edumacating me about bottom surgery, im glad youre in a relatively healthy state of mind (dysphoria wise) to decide that you dont want to risk the complications. Hope your dysphoria gets better though after top surgery! Im excited for you :D
Those are pretty much the exact same reasons why I don’t want bottom surgery either. Thanks :) nice to see I’m not alone. Also congrats on getting your top surgery done! Still waiting for my “letter” for it... *sighs and tries to remain patient*
nah I don't want bottom surgery. I mean I kinda rarely experience bottom dysphoria unless I'm in the shower, but like nah I don't want that surgery. I didn't know you could loose your ability to nut? I don't want that.
Thank you for not bashing bottom surgery results saying it “doesn’t look real”. All your points are valid, but I’d like to touch on the last one from my point of view. It is of course your opinion, but here’s the thing, having a cis penis just isn’t possible. I’m not trying to trigger anyone, but expecting it to be like that is just wrong. Top surgery results are not cis, and sensation is not guaranteed either. Both surgeries are attempting to look as “cis” as possible but it’s never going to be cis. Knowing that it has made it easier for me to accept getting bottom surgery. At the end of the day it is a dick, not a cis dick but that’s all that matters. Aside from that I can totally understand why someone wouldn’t want to go through a major surgery due to recovery/complications and the whole skin graft situation.
Actually youre not entirely correct. They are currently figuring out ways to give a trans man a cis mans penis. Literally. Like an organ donor, but. A penis donor? Theyve had succesfull cis man to cis man transplants, so theyre figuring out how they can go cis man to trans man. Everything is possible with out technology as its only getting better and better
I don’t care about being cis as long as a I have a well enough functioning dick that I can insert into people
@@gatorfan556 Yeah they are doing that but it means being on immunosuppressants for the rest of your life, so it's not really this great solution it's made out to be.
@@soysaucesnag696 Beautifully said
@@hanakosan4404 thank you papi
Thanks for allowing us the get an insight into your thoughts!:)
Thank You for being honest Noah. As a trans woman im in a similar situation. Hopefully some time in the future perhaps they could advance things to where trans men and trans woman could just sort of swap. I know its very simplistic calling it a swap but itd be nice for everyone if it was possible.
He reminds me a lot of Troye Sivan
I totally understand where you're coming from. I honestly wish I didn't want bottom surgery- but as soon as I got top, the bottom dysphoria hit me like a brick wall. Honestly, the more I look at surgeries, the more I'm amazed that I even live in a time in history where I have access to surgery, you know?
HOWEVER, we really need to stop centering being trans around wanting/getting specific surgeries or medical treatments. We all have a different relationship with gender and our bodies, and its not your business how someone wants to live in their body.
I have always felt the same way and wondered if it made me any less trans so thank you for making me for making me more confident in my choice
What an amazing time. People like you let others know they are not alone,,Thank you for sharing your story.
When your’e a bi transman and like topping 😭😓😫
that's why i thank the gods for straps
BOH-UMM surgery sounds painful.
Honestly I’m the same, vaginoplasty while, probably better when it comes to how tough it can be to recover, but I feel like now science isn’t far enough for me to be able to get it.
Big mood. Relatable 110%
I agree with you! I totally understand now, i didn't realize how complicated it was. I think you are awesome!! :)
I feel exactly the same! I’m a straight trans male and even though my bottom dysphoria is horrible I don’t think I can put myself through it to possibly have complications and not be satisfied. And as you said, life without being able to nut, NOT FOR ME THANKS
Im getting bottom surgery soon, and im scarred, but not because of this vid
good luck, I hope recovery won't be too bad!
Good luck !
Yo how did it go?
This is pretty much my exact idea too, thanks for voicing the side thats not always heard!
i agree 100% with this. i would want bottom surgery, but i'm not going to get it because of all the reasons in this video. you pretty much took the words out of my mouth.
holy shit i haven’t watched your videos ina while and your voice shocked me
I'm so dysphoric about my *that area that I want it at any cost. No matter how it goes. But I know how hard it is right now. Hope the surgery process will improve in the coming years. Btw, I'm 14 right now and maybe it will take almost 30 for me to getting bottom surgery. That's a huge time. I hope things will change then. ^_^
I know this is very serious and touchy and I respect it and you 100% but when you were talking ab the arm part I couldn’t help but laugh you’re personality is amazing lol
OMG youre getting top surgery the day before my birthday:) so excited for u:):)
1:36 bOI YOURE GETTING TOP SURGERY ON MY BIRTHDAY AHHH THATS SO COOL
Where my fellow underachievers at 👏
Good luck with your top surgery!
Thank's for your Direct words! You're a coragious guy. And you are so comunicative.. Amazing! Good luck and take care👍👍
omg your voice when i clicked on this video *shook* its so deep-
“I have dysphoria.. obviously I’m a trans man”
Don’t make the transtrenders tRiGgErEd
@Eden Borgerdinggoogle shall do the trick..
Oml😂😂😂
Eden Darleen basically someone who "transitions" because they like the "aesthetic", or look of the idea or something. someone will be able to explain better than me lol
Eden Darleen someone (mostly girls) so claim that theyre trans to get attention
Hey, just a quick comment here to say it's not required to have dysphoria to be trans (:
I've commented on your vids before...but i just need to say again how informative and a nice way you explain your thoughts and how you feel on any given subject... also i had never heard of dysphoria if thats how its spelled.. I think if i was trans messing with the good bits wouldn't be what I'd want to gamble with ... all my best cheers from california
I think the reasons for not having bottom surgery are quite valid ! The male to female is almost perfected ! But femake to male has a long way to go ! When I did my medical training a very long time ago ,female to male surgeries always has horrific complications , with multiple follow up surgeries ! Your a good looking guy and have a great attitude , I don't see any girl not bei g attracted to you ! Hopefully transitioning from female to male will become safer and less complicated sooner than later ! Cheers !
You know I get that. My friend is getting put on testerones and he is getting top surgery and I have known him for like 10 almost 11 years and I support him. Hes everything to me and i dont wanna see him hurt.
I don't have dysphoria about my genitals cuz I'm asexual and I don't want to use it for obvious reasons, but I HATE periods. And this is my main reason for feeling uncomfortable with it. Thank you for all the info
You can get like birth control it makes your period stop or make it very light
@@mx.maniac7521 lmao you must be joking. I'd never take that just to make my periods stop. It's way too dangerous.
Also, if I'm gonna make my body go crazy with hormones - I'd take testosterone, please haha
Now, after a year I finally made that happen and in like a month or less, I'm starting T 😍
@@merlin8046 that’s amazing! Also I didn’t know that shit made you crazy thanks for the heads up
@@mx.maniac7521 well birth control does all sorts of things to your body, I just called it "making the body crazy"
Its interesting because im in the thinking process to decide whether or not i want bottom surgery myself. Im MTF and ive made the decision of getting top surgery (if that still applies to transgender women. Not 100% sure of the terminology) but if you want it then i support u 100%. And even if u dont then i still support u. 💕
I'm glad I watched this video. I came to it as someone who is hoping to get a date for my first bottom surgery next month (they keep delaying it though, it's really annoying) and I expected to walk away less sure and feeling frightened. That hasn't happened, your reasons are personal to you, and you explained it all in a really nonbiased way! I know I personally just don't feel like I've completed my transition yet, and I need that feeling of... Closure? I don't expect to be 'happy' with my results (heck, I'm not even happy with the top surgery results, I look like a lumpy piece of meat someone attacked with an ice cream scoop) but I hope to no longer be thinking about it constantly and feeling bad about myself.
Deformed arm... Yeah, I'll have that. I plan to get an awesome tattoo to turn it into something more positive. If people ask, I'll lie about it. I've already lied to my boss about what I've been in hospital for. It may well serve as an unpleasant reminder, but I'd rather the reminder be that than... Something else.
Complications and long recoveries don't scare me. I tell myself everything will be fine, and if it's not I can deal with it later, I just need it done. That worked with my first surgery, and I recovered astonishingly quickly, everyone was pretty surprised including me.
Maybe I also want it for the wrong reasons too. Like if I meet the right guy, but I'm paranoid pants contents is important. Then I can look at myself and just think... "I tried." I suppose really I'm just sick of feeling wrong, so if I end up looking like frankenstein's monster instead, I guess that's better. I don't have time to wait for medical advancements, far too much of my life has passed me by already waiting for this.
Went on a bit of miserable tangent at the end there, but oh well. Thanks for making this video and all your others. Found your channel today, and the videos seem to be the first things I've found in years that have made me feel better about my situation. It's great!
I'm still young, but I'm pretty sure I'm never going to be getting bottom surgery. Except my reason is that I actually don't have bottom dysphoria. In fact, I like that down there, I'm happy with that part of my body. The main thing that gives me dysphoria is my chest, feminine face, and voice. Everybody is different!
My bf ain't getting bottom surgery either
And I support him in whatever he thinks is best for him
yeah, i've thought about what it would be like and how it would happen and the outcomes and literally questioned my gender identity (male) and stuff because i don't want bottom surgery because of the risks and this video makes be feel so much better about not wanting bottom surgery!! or at least for now haha, thank you!
Can completely understand the reasoning behind not wanting bottom surgery, everyone’s different & it’s gonna be a *loooong* time before we’re gonna have anything functionally close to a cisgender penis.
Personally I want at least meta just because it’s better than what I have now, phallo would be more ideal in results but the complication rate to the results aren’t what I’m happy with rn. Plus, even though I know meta won’t completely alleviate my dysphoria, it leaves room later for phallo if I feel I’d benefit from it / if methods change & make that easier later too after having meta.
IM GETTING YOUR MERCH FOR CHRISTMAS AND I PRE ORDED ATHSMA ATTACK ON SPOTIFY! 😍🙌😍🙌😍🙌
"So I'm a gay man" Shocker.
He? she? has a pussy and comes out as a gay man. What does the gay boyfriend do with the pussy?
Michael Cooke gets sick into it I suppose!
Michael Cooke he’s clearly a guy and his boyfriend is bi and also people are open minded 🙄
Michael Cooke, his boyfriend is bi and had had plenty of experience. However, many gay guys have sex with trans guys who have vaginas. Some trans guys don’t want to involve their genitals in sex, preferring to penetrate their partner with their fingers or toys, or to be penetrated through a different hole. Some don’t like penetration at all. If he’s comfortable with involving his genitals in sex, a gay guy wouldn’t have more trouble than an inexperienced straight guy. If the trans guy is on T the other dude might actually find the clitoris.
Gay guys are generally not scared of vulvas. It’s just a body part.
@@felipevasconcelos6736 Haha! "If the trans guy is on T the other dude might actually find the clitoris."
I'm so excited! I hope your top surgery goes well, do you think you'll keep us updated on that?
This just shows you how brave people are that actually commit to having the full procedure .