Ruger 10/22 - Best Distance To Zero 22lr (Accuracy & Holdover Test)
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2022
- Today I'm testing out where holdovers would be at different distances from within 10m out to 75m+ for my Ruger 10/22 Man are these things accurate! The rotary magazines also do a great job cycling the rounds vs my past experiences with other .22lr guns where failure to feed or failure to eject are common issues.
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Tanks for the video! 🎯My .22lr is zeroed @ 50y. All the way down to 25y is virtually same point of impact! @ 60y drops 0.6". @ 75y drops 2" @ 100Y DROPS 6". With SK velocity of 1,135ft/sec.
Excellent video. Refreshingly free of BS.
Thank you i'm happy you enjoyed it!
Thanks for taking the time and demonstrating this for us. Very helpful as I’m new to the 10/22 world, but quickly fell in love with it.
The best thing about this vid is knowing your rifles capacity to be accurate, theyre not all the same. Very helpful video to teach us to realize it🥰
You are the very best hunting/shooting channel I have ever seen! So nice to see a guy using equipment for the average guy. I can’t afford expensive guns and shooting rests.
I also love your big game hunting videos. I don’t have any Camo and to see you wearing a brown jacket and regular guy toques and hats is so awesome. Thank you so very very much. You are the only channel I follow out of many, who I have turned on my notifications for! 😀
That is so nice and relieving to hear, thank you for your kind words! Sometimes I feel like I’m at a major disadvantage when making these videos as I don’t have the latest and greatest equipment nor a full production crew to help film and edit but it’s awesome to hear that that can be viewed positively too. And yup you’re right just an average guy here using my own equipment that I can afford and I don’t have sponsors etc so at least I can keep everything 100% honest!
Very thorough finally someone that understands knowing what your rifle will do is the key to having confidence. I also have a sniper reticle on the new 10/22 I just bought and wondered if I would ever use it. Awesome video
Thanks man 👍 I have a totally different setup for my PRS guns but for this small game hunting rifle this setup is lightweight, low cost and perfect for its use!
Nice video! Straight to the point without a bunch of mumbo jumbo about .22 ballistics , velocity…differences with other calibers etc.
Great effort for showing ( shooters ) the bullet trajectory over the various distance!! Thank you .
Thank you for this demonstration. I zero at 50 yards. Check the hold over I will need at 75 yards. I do not shoot game beyond that distance due to drop and mostly energy loss . They are making hyper velocity rounds now days that are approaching the 1800 fps. but from what I have seen most rifles do not group well with them. Well, have a great Grouse hunt . 👍🇺🇸✌🏻
Nice, yeah my ballistics show pretty identical drop when zeroed for 25 or 50 for these federal bulk ammo 1200 FPS, I also keep most my hunting shots within 50 - I find that’s more than enough for small game! Thanks for watching! 🤙🤙
I zero at 50. Furthest out from that zero was a dead crow at 120yds. Mine has a Clerke 16” heavy barrel. Sniper rifle😁
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Thanks - you answered my question. Appreciate you taking time to save me some time at the range..
Glad you found the video helpful! Thanks for watching 🤙🤙
Thank you for this video! Very well done brother. Good info to live with
Great work! Just picked up a Ruger 10/22. Great advic and shooting.
Semper Fi from an Ole Marine!
For me using standard velocity ammo, I like about an 80Yd zero, this puts you about 1.5" low at 100, and 1.5" high at 50, 1.75" low at 25". This gives you the best overall same hold zero (but you can adjust your hold for more precision) out to around 100. Zeroing like this allows you to take advantage of your weapon's ballistics, for simpler shooting, but still enough accuracy over the entire range to hit small game.
That sounds like pretty good MPBR I’m going to have a try at that, must say I haven’t tried that 80yd zero yet thanks for the insight.
This. Sounds good thinking I think
You should have given the distance of bore and scope center line. That makes all the difference in how you zero a rifle. The higher the scope the father down range you have to zero.
@jimsiggy
After watching this video. And after finding out about where my rifle starts spreading shots out about bigger than say about 1 1/2 inches. I would zero at that range, if I wanted a long range zero. Which I don't.
Good video! Fast moving, good details, down to earth! Thanks.👍
I'm always amazed when I see how accurate/precise a properly calibrated .22LR rifle can be. I wasn't much of a gun person until recently, but I could have sworn when I was younger people tended to say rimfire cartridges in general weren't very accurate/precise.
I don't think I'll be small game hunting any time soon, so I'm just fiddling with my 10/22; kind of treating it like a PCC in a way. Even got like a cheap Wal-Mart red dot sight on it just for fun. I still need to finish sighting it in for shorter ranges (~7-20 yards). Ridiculous, I know, but I never claimed I was smart. XD
Yup these things can be pretty accurate indeed within 50yds. It’s only around 100yd+ that it gets finicky and you start to need better ammo for consistency. But plinking and hunting within the closer distances it makes it super easy.
very good presentation very well articulated and lots of food for thought
I agree with you. I also zero between 20 and 25yds depending on velocity. That way you can adjust how long and high you want bullet to be above your line of sight. Nice filming.
Awesome, yup and for my competition 22 I zero for 50 and use match bullets. Thanks for watching 🤙🤙
Thank you. Very informative.
Thank You Sir for putting in the time. I appreciate the insight.
Thanks for watching! 🤙🤙
Straightforward and useful. Thanks!
60 yards works for me.. I've actually seen the trajectory of stinger .22LR when you have the sun behind you while shooting into a shaded treeline. The .22 shoots very flat out to 60 yards then you start to see the drop and at 100 yards it drops about 3 inches..so at a very short range its about a half inch high. Basically at 60 yards you can hold almost dead on from 10 yards out to 100. Other standard velocity .22 with the same zero are about 1 inch high at short range and drop about 6 to 7 inches at 100. This is were Kentucky windage kicks in and knowing your gun and ammo!
Nice, yup the key is practice & knowing your gun ammo and holdovers! 💯
Well said. I've experienced "seeing the flight path" too, and it is a great help in visualizing the .22 trajectory.
Good video. Interesting facts. Thanks for doing this.
Well done. Appreciate your efforts.
Thanks for watching cheers 🤙🤙
Quite an eye opening video! Thanks.
That is very practical, thank you. I just got a 10/22.
Thanks for watching glad you found the video helpful!
Great info Sir. Thanks for the video.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it!
The hash mark is called subtension. An likely you shoot moa. It indicates “at specific” power. 100 yards 1” you may have w bdc reticle but moa scopes are most common.
Excellent just as I expected 👌subscribed
Excellent video. Thank you!
Thanks for watching!
Great discussion, regardless where folk settle in distance. It's best to know WHERE your zero lands in multiple positions: Prone, Kneeling, standing, bench. You will find your zero walking around in these different positions. Ballistic calculators/dope will affirm distance regardless of zero-ed distance
Yup, for sure there’s a lot of various factors to consider from ammo type, equipment factors, environmental factors to shooter factors! Best to zero to a distance where ballistics is in the favor of what range you’ll usually shoot within, and test and confirm holdovers at different distances and get familiar with it like what I’m doing here. Especially if using the rifle to hunt and there’s possibility of shooting unknown distances unlike target shooting where a miss or bad shot might not be a big deal, a bad shot on a live animal might just injure it and that’s just not ethical practice!
Really good information and easy to understand. I been shooting my 10/22 once a week and going from 50 to 100yds now I know where to zero
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video!
I sure did enjoy it. I'm going to see how accurate I can get at 100yds then I will settle in around 75. I really enjoy shooting but I don't hunt.
Thanks for the video. Great one
Thank you glad you enjoyed it!
Nicely done, good video, helpful info...
Thanks man! 🤙🤙
4:56 that bullet wiz 😳
Great video! I have to zero my new 10/22, and this video was really helpful.
Glad to hear! Thanks!
The 10/22, my first love. Got mine in '78 for my 12th birthday. She has evolved. A Boyd's Spike Camp stock, Voquartsen auto bolt release, and a Vortex diamondback tactical 3-9×40 and she nails 2-3" pill/vitamin bottles at 100 yards. I use good 1255-1300 fps ammo and have high scope rings so I can still use open sights. We laugh when shooting this gun.Oh...also have a cheap CV Life bipod.
Nice nice, I’m planning on putting out some rimfire/centerfire shooting challenges to subscribers this summer - you should definitely take part! Will be some fun egg challenges @ 200-300 yds, dime challenges etc!
How do you see your iron sights? The scope rail blocks the rear on the new 10/22s.
Helpful , well done .
Good stuff, friend. Thank you.
Appreciated this video. 👍🏻
Great presentation!
I have a tricked out Ruger too. Love it great shtf tool 👍👍
Nice job on taking your time to use that scope! 👍
Thanks! 🤙🤙
Great video. well done
Great video! Use your spent brass to mark your target between shot movements.
Thanks for watching! 🤙🤙
Cool video my dude! I like a 60 yard zero if using 1200+ FPS ammunition. Standard velocity I find a 50 yard zero is best.
Thanks man! Yup seems to be the sweet spot!
Practical test. Good job mate.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for demonstration
Np thanks for watching!
Man I envy you young guys that can shoot comfortably from prone. At my age and level of fitness I'd be rolling on my fat belly like an upside-down turtle. Then I'd need the jack from the truck to get me back on my feet. Love your channel and content. First class all the way!
Haha thank you I’m glad to hear you enjoy the channel! Cheers 🙌
Just had to comment about that need for a jack to get up. I'm past 86 and it isn't getting any easier. Fortunately, I'm in a club and get to shoot sitting down at a bench.
Well done. Everyone is different but if it works for you 👍👍👍👍👍
That’s right, zero to what distance ranges you’ll mostly be shooting at.
Good vid….we needed a .22lr vid like this….!
My hunting zero is 30m with the ammunition I have so I'm not far off from your results. Forest grouse here in my area of Western Washington generally don't let you closer than 30m. I can hold dead on from 10m -40m and get a headshot 90% of the time using shooting sticks or tall bipod. Good instructions for those new to the .22 and hunting setup.
That’s awesome! And thanks for watching!
Thanks, I am about to set up the scope on my Ruger 10/22 and this was very helpful.
What brand of scope are you using
@@donaldberryhill647 Sorry I just noticed this reply. I am away from home in Texas, and I don't recall. I will follow up with you on Friday after I get back to Alabama.
I have a Bushnell Banner 2 4-12X 40mm that I purchased at the same time I got the rifle.
Great video thank you, curious as to what kind of armor you are using aswell.
25m is perfect. You are right on the drop after 50m. 70m is -4" & 100m it will be -8".
Great stuff!
Very well done my friend
Great "real world" video! I'd love to know what scope you're using, as well as ammo.
You did a great job on this video. Thank you
Thank you!
Thank you. You approached it like a normal person, not a gucci gun, special ops, gun smith prepper, doing more to impress us normal person viewers with data and models and types and calculations (often confusing us) than to make us look forward to getting out and doing the same. I have a better picture of what I’m gonna do myself when I hit the range than I ever have from the other 15 or so accuracy/zeroing/scope vids I’ve watched. And I didn’t have to listen to a single product “advertised”, to boot. 😁 Thank you. #likesubscribehitthebell 🤙🏾
Glad to hear you enjoyed the video thank you! 👍
I built a competition 10/22 with an original Ruger receiver with all internal parts and the barrel made by Kidd and a Victor Titan stock. I’ve competed with it out to 300 yards and managed to take first and second place against Voodoo, Bergera, CZ and Tikka bolt guns.
I zero at 50 yards and find that most ammo (except for the really crappy stuff) groups really well at 50yds in my rifles-the quality starts to really show at 100. What separates (and costs more money) the “good” ammo from the “regular” stuff is the time and effort put forth by the manufacturers to maintain a high level of consistency in priming compound and powder and bullet consistency. That’s pretty much what separates the good stuff from the cheap stuff.
In my rifles the accuracy at 100 yards of the less expensive stuff doesn’t effect the width of the group but the vertical spread caused by inconsistent primer and powder application which effects velocity. Most people don’t realize how much effect the primer compound has in the velocity of a 22 rimfire round.
With the 50 yard zero and an approximate muzzle velocity of 1060 fps, my rifle shoots 2/10’s inch high at 25yds, 2.6 inches low at 75yds and 7.7 inches low at 100 yds. Bullet drop at 200 yards is 57 inches and a whopping 162 inches at 300 yards!
Nice! That’s some good shooting indeed! And 100% agree with your comments regarding ammo!
I just use this as my hunting rig so I have a different setup for my competition rig this year I’m using a savage b22. SK match ammo is working good through it so far!
@@OutdoorsAnonymous I’ve been using a lot of SK Long Range Match and Eley Match. Even with the “good” stuff, the lot number has a big impact on accuracy. I’ve seen significant differences in group sizes at longer distances with ammo from same manufacturer but different lot numbers….
Yup I believe it!
Thanks it really helped me out and yes, I would say most squirrels and rabbits are shot close to 50 and in
Yup it’s point and shoot at that distances!
Very helpful
Good vid. Thanks
To determine your MPBR, divide your muzzle velocity by 10. This should get you in the ballpark of your maximum point blank range. A hyper velocity yellow jacket at 1500 fps MV would be 150 yards. I set 10/22s up at half that distance for plinking, but to get serious about varmint control, leave it at MPBR and only worry about holdover/holdunder and windage.
I never had a range or a range finder growing up in the country. So we always just picked a spot...like the other side of the pond..and set sights for it 😂. Had no idea how many yards it was lol. All i knew was it was dead on across the pond and a bit low at the woodline 😂. It worked 👍😎. Just had to know where each bullet would hit and different areas of the farm and remember it
Nice lol old school 💯
Love a 10 22 = I've used one for over 40yrs and killed a load of squirrels with it , enjoyed your post. 🇺🇸
Thank you for your help
Glad you found it helpful thanks for watching!
After watching the video and reading some of the comments, it's quite evident that many people have their own opinion as to what distance is best to sight in their .22 rifles. I am no exception to that. Personally, I sight in my .22s at 35 yds. I have two 10/22s. One was bought way back in 1976. I have found it is most accurate using CCI Mini-Mag hollow points ammo. My newer take down 10/22 prefers CCI Stingers. Sighting in at 35 yds. assures me that from 10 yds, up to 50 yds. is deadly on small game. I have other weapons for 50+ yd. and longer ranges.
Nice yup exactly it depends on ur ammo ballistics and what purpose you’re using it for. I shoot rimfire matches (diff gun diff ammo) and that one is zeroed at 50. We shoot out to 300, 400 yards in some stages.
Great shooting, I’m going to zero my 22 rifle in at 25 yard, thank for the information.
Glad you found the video helpful, good luck!
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching!
I was sighting my 10/22 yesterday, and my scope did not have enough eye relief. When I take it out again, it will be off, so I will start at 10l and go from there, but I will center it at 25, and then hold under or over for that. Thank you for your advice.
Awesoem thanks for watching!
Helpful thanks 😊
Thanks for a great video. I was wondering how much of an effect different ammo makes.
HUGE effect. With my competition gun I can shoot
Great video.
Good video!!! Thanks!!!!
Thanks for watching!
Good Coaching.... Short, simple and clear with video pics.... what's your ammo?.... good day.... sammy
I was using federal valupak high velocity here. Thanks for watching!
Good demo
Great stuff, thanks for sharing. What glass are you running.
Thanks for watching. I’m just running a pursuit scope (Cabelas brand) 4-12 nothin fancy!
Good vid thanks
Glad you enjoyed it thanks for watching
Great job
Thanks!
i have a10/22 with an 18in kidd barrel. crazy accurate. i use it for bullseye matches at 50yrds
Nice! 🤙🤙
good content. useful
Thank you
I served in a armored calvery unit in vietnam we would zero the 90mm main gun at 1000 with H.E. meters . The scope on the m-60 tank had a 4 click which click = 1000meter. just like fireing a very big rifle but with 7 different flavors of ammo. 4th inf div.
Thats awesome, I’m armoured as well!
50 meter zero here with standard velocity. Then switch to velocitors or stingers for 100m. hold over is minimal when you use the higher power round for long distance. Id like to say i figured that out on purpose but it was more of a accidental plinking discovery.
Nice, hard time finding the good ammo so I stick to the cheaper bulk 22 and the 25m zero does the job for my small game on this one!
Maybe I missed it, but what ammo are you using? Great video. 👌
thank you
Mildot or BDC scope? I used to bust 200 yard water balloons with iron sights for fun. Scope was too easy. You can zero 25 M at the +1 mildot above the crosshairs and get more distance play from scope. If you need more, back the scope power off and spread the distance of the dots. And if a dot is close to a preferred distance you can message the power back and forth to calibrate the mildot for it. I do this for xbow scope and airguns. .22 rimfire is kinda a no brainer when compared. I use a zero 25 yards at 8X. And holding dead on I can free hand head shoot squirrel out to 55 yards. Any further gets iffy because the perception of the terrain changes and they are hard to recover. Also you can use a laser and create a range card for your preferred bullet and corresponding dope. Note the exact distance of point of impact for each dot and corresponding distance. Transcribe it to half a 3x5" note card and tape to the stock or get fancy and cut out a circle the same size as your flip cap scope cover and attach it inside with some glue or tape. You did a fine job of squaring away your rifle.
Those safety glasses look real impressive on top of your head.
Sure does!
Good work. I use 50 yards or 45 m for my Zero with Hi Vel ammo (1240-1265 fps). Nothing is safe out to 100 yd.
The point of a lead sled or any other device used to hold the gun still. Isn't necessarily because that's how you're going to be shooting. It's to get the group as tight as possible, so when you're shooting in the field it's just a little less error from the shakes or what not. One could say the same thing about your shooting Matt and bags, do you carry those with you when you are hunting?
I think your group really opens up because you're using supersonic ammunition. It will go subsonic around 45 meters. The shock wave didn't have time to deflect the bullet much even at 40-50 meters but once you stretch it more it really blows out your groups. If you can use standard velocity rounds for the game you hunt, you may find your groups will hold together well up to 70. My 1022 will group a little over an inch to inch and a quarter at 100 yards (about 96 meters) with standard velocity ammunition (1080 fps). Its 2 inches or more with high velocity stuff (about 1240 fps).
That’s actually a very good point I will give that a try and see what happens thanks for watching!
That's a very very good 1022 you have. What is it? volquartsen or voodoo? Most of the stock rugers will do that at 50 yards AT BEST in my experience.
It’s actually just a stock Ruger! Right off the shelf lol I’m a simple guy 😜
@@OutdoorsAnonymous update
I'd say 50 yards or 45.72 meters.. then bring it into 25 and see where it hits then out to 100 yards and see where it hits.
22lr's in most cases hit kinda flat, an fast, shouldn't be too far off close or far if zeroed at 50.
I should have filmed it, but I did try 20 (aka 100) 25, 36, 50 m zeros stuck with the 25 as it was the one that shot tightest within my hunting range (within 50m) and didn’t have any bullet rise. The other zeroes seemed to have bullet rise of 1-3” at their mid ranges. I like the 25 zero you can basically point and shoot headshot
In fact I might re-do that test and film it
I get really good results with a 50 yard zero using CCI Standard Velocity 40grn. I'm sure other ammo is good also.
I found 25 and 50 for these federals have very close trajectories almost identical within my ranges I shoot
Cool vid thanks I wonder how to use the hash marks
Hash marks are rough holdover guides they’re usually set for certain calibers and function usually on highest magnification for the scope (for second focal plane scopes like this). First focal plane scopes are a different story
All in all, this is a great video!
IMO… Lead sleds are great for zeroing and establishing a range chart for POA vs POI… and that’s really all they are good for. If you’re using one for target shooting… you have no skill.
My preferred zero distance is where my bullet path meets the optical plane. - keep pushing the distance to where the bullet stops climbing above your point of aim. If you zero your rifle at 20m and it hits higher at 30m… then adjust and continue to move your target out and shoot again… keep continuing to move your target out to the point of where your bullet path and the optics meet and everything falls below it until you reach a point that all shots fired at close range POI are below the POA and as you move away the POI gradually climbs to meet the POA. Once they meet and then POI starts to fall under the POA again “without climbing above the POA” that is the actual zero point. From that point (distance/range) you will be able to establish a pretty accurate bullet drop calculation and know that “everything” will be at a rate of drop below the POA… if you have a scope with adjustable turrets then you can make a very simple chart or marks on the turrets to dial the rang very simply and accurately. -
“zero” on the dial becomes truly “zero” and no shot travels above “zero”
If you really want to push this concept… get an MOA ramped sight/scope mount. This will allow you to adjust the reticle in your scope to maximize the elevation click range by tilting the scope a little bit allowing you to start your elevation adjustments at a lower point on the turret scale… this provides you an additional level of elevation adjustment that will stretch your range adjustment significantly over a 0-MOA by adding 20-40 MOA to your adjustment scale.
This all may be a bit much for a .22LR… but this carries across the spectrum of all calibers.
Don’t even need it to zero either, should have good enough fundamentals to zero without one.
@@OutdoorsAnonymous 😎👍 - agreed!… but some people just plain don’t! 😁
And yup agreed. My competition 22 is set up that way how you mentioned on your post edit 🙃
@@OutdoorsAnonymous - nice! - I don’t really shoot competitively anymore since I retired. it was a little easier to afford when the Army paid for all of the travel, lodging, ammo, etc- so I do some local shoots here and there, but only a couple times a year anymore.
Thanks for the replies to my comment. I really appreciate it and have enjoyed watching the few of your videos that I have seen and looking forward to checking out a few more.
Lived the dream! Absolute, thank you for watching the videos I’m glad you’re enjoying them. I should be having more long range content coming down the pipe the summer will be doing more PRS shoots moving forward :) but first… spring turkey 🦃 opener this weekend!
Good vid
What ammo using in 22 ..? Seemed very accurate
Awsome 👌
Thanks for watching! 🤙🤙🤙
Good shooting. I am surprised it dropped that much at 75 yards.
Yea I find these bulk ammo that shoot jaut over supersonic tend to do only be decent out to 50yds. Out close to 100 yds and further they go “transonic” and get really inconsistent. So I use subsonic ammo for my match rimfire for the consistency but these bulk cheap stuff so great at regular hunting ranges!
oh you didnt mention what velocity ammo your doing this with because that will drastically change those heights!