The changes From "NO LIFE TILL LEATHER" To "KILL 'EM ALL"
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- One thing I forgot to mention was a HUGE thank you to everyone that has subscribed to my channel since my last video. Today, let's take a look at the demo for KILL 'EM ALL
HE FUCKING LEFT THE BAND!
Demo's:
Phantom Lord - • Metallica - Phantom Lo...
The Mechanics (was spelled as 'Mechanix' later) - • Metallica - The Mechan...
Jump in the Fire - • Metallica - Jump in th...
One - • Metallica - One (Demo ...
Rust In Peace... Polaris - • Rust In Peace... Polar...
Holy Wars...The Punishment Due - • MEGADETH-HOLY WARS...(...
Take No Prisoners - • Take No Prisoners (Dem...
Only Thing (Welcome home/Orion) - • Metallica: Only Thing ...
You know why the break down sounds like Sweet Home Alabama? I saw an interview with Dave. Dave used to catch a ride to practice with Cliff, and Cliff being such a massive Skynyrd fan used to crank it all the time. Any way, one time during practice Lars says to Dave, we need to add a part and slow it down here. So as a joke Dave played the sweet home alabama riff, knowing Lars wouldnt know it. (Obviously changing the ending of the picking chords.) Lars was like fuck thats amazing we need to keep that, and the rest is history. True fucking story, ask Dave yourself if you ever get the chance.
here is the video to back me up. starts at .45 seconds. you're welcome. ruclips.net/video/uau8j8a_HoU/видео.html
Dannie Caleno 2
Even though that´s true Cliff was the one that came up with the idea, Dave joked over Lars and No, never ask Mustaine for anything or he would claim he invented the Beatles.
I was about to comment that, who would've thought that there was a real conmection between them. I just thought it was similar
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Yeah Mustaine wrote every Metaliica albums, and probably those that are yet to come...
Poor man and his Cinderella syndrom
"he left the band"
Dave sleeping:
The rest of the band: Dave we need to talk
Dave: I'm out, no second chance when's my bus leave
I like the kill 'em all version of the lyrics for jump in the fire but the demo lyrics are absolutely hilarious! Mustaine must of wrote those lyrics for sure
AvidMetalChic only you Pissy little kids laugh at Mustiane’s Metallica .... So Fucken Lame !
Dave Mustaine wrote the whole song Jump In The Fire
+Eamon Ahern jeez grammar nazis everywhere
Eamon Ahern Get a life🤣🤣🤣
@@pkj77 Dave wrote the music, James wrote the lyrics. Dave said so himself.
The Mechanix & Jump in the Fire were Mustaine songs through and through penned before he joined Metallica, James never liked Dave's lyrics to either I believe but no doubt avoiding giving Mustaine sole songwriting credits on two songs was also a priority.
Thank god James didn't like those cheesy, hair metal ass sex lyrics, dude. I love Megadeth, but god damn were Dave's early song ideas awful. Thankfully HE dropped that shit (mostly) later on too.
Matthew Bermingham he didnt write anything from master of puppets
Matthew Bermingham The riff to Leper Messiah in the middle maybe (Dave claimed that at one point), but the main riff to song I don't think so. At most that may have been Dave's influence that bled into the band at the time.
Matthew Bermingham
Mustaine has even claimed he wrotte parts of Master and Enter Sandman besides other songs, all depends on how druged he was at the time, when he soberd up he stoped it
Retro Revelations The Four Horseman lyrics suck dude, simple as that. Dave used to work as a mechanic, and he was probably getting more pussy then the other three the band combined, so there is some real world experience behind those lines. Not saying Dave's lyrics is much better but acting like horseman is some lyrical accomplishment is like arguing lord of the rings is intellectually cultured, goddamn lol.
Also Dave wrote horseman music in its entirety with Lynyrd Skynrd's help, because it is a castrated version of Sweet Home Alabama Dave admitted it, and the rest of the band was too out of it to catch on. Because Lars wanted a slow part in a song that didn't need it. He dropped the part when Mechanix was recorded as it should be.
So the corrected credits for Horseman is (Mustaine, King, Hetfield, Hammett) Because Kirk wrote his solo to add spice to that boring ass part.
Maybe im wrong, but No Remorse I believe wasn't on No Life 'Til Leather.
No Remorse wasn't, Anesthesia (obviously) wasn't, and Whiplash wasn't. Everything else was pretty much on the demo in one way or another.
I like that we have two versions of Jump and Horsemen/Mechanix as it gives me choices. And regarding Dave's lyrics, I wouldn't call them glam lyrics at all. Traditional RnR, maybe as the genre is based on sex, but these lyrics were raw and metal.
Fun fact
It sounds like sweet home Alabama because Dave played Sweet Home slow one day, and Lars thought it would sound nice to tangle with
The Four Horsemen, IMO, is a far better song than The Mechanix. It sounds better slow, the slower middle part is awesome, and the lyrical content is MUCH more interesting.
And frankly, I'm SUPER glad that Metallica dropped the shitty/super sexual lyrics from Jump in the Fire. That would have made them a bit of hypocritical in their whole "We're totally better than poser hair bands" shtick.
All in all, Metallica was better off with Dave leaving, and even though he acted traumatized over it for years, DAVE was much better off, as he created Megadeth, and we got TWO great bands. Instead of just one which, let's be honest, would not have survived all that long with Dave and James' clashing egos. The truth many people, including Dave, seem to just not want to touch, is that while he definitely had an INFLUENCE on Metallica, he never really FIT in Metallica.
Retro Revelations amen.
The fact remains that Dave Mustaine had a hugh influence on Metallica at the beginning whatever way you look at it. He wrote most of Kill em all and without that first demo, they may not have even got a record deal. While Metallica only managed five or six great albums, they have brought out some shit too. Megadeth and Dave Mustaine have since the start brought out great album after great album for a lot longer time span than Metallica. Mustaine is the better writer and composer in this genre of music for sure.
quacka 1003 Megadeth has released some absolute pieces of shit over the years.
Corey Albert Absolutely! I won't disagree with you there. Even their new album Dystopia, I'm not a fan. But so far so good and Peace sells and rust in Peace and youthanasia and countdown and The system has failed and United Abominations and Thirtheen and Endgame Hidden Treasures are by far the better collection than Metallica handful of good albums.
I hear you that, man! I like both bands but will be the first to admit that they aren't perfect. Metallica has had a handful of great songs since the black album, but Megadeth has really outpaced them since the 90's, and both bands had ridiculously amazing output in the 80's.
0:39 la la la la la la la la la la la lars ulrich
Pyrrhus Cunanan hey
AlcoholicA!! \m/
No Life Til Leather does NOT contain "all the songs from Kill 'Em All" as the guy says in the video. Only 7 of them.
Metal up em all
Those Jump In The Fire lyrics from the demo are CRINGE
C'MON MAN!!!!
Nice video, I agree that demos are gems that allow us peeking into the songwriting process, love that.
Two points however: 1- not true at 01:25 that No Life 'Til Leather contains all the songs from Kill 'em All (most of them, 7 out of 10). 2- Jump In The Fire lyrics (KEA version) are not about mosh pit at live shows (04:13), but are written from the devil's perspective, suggesting how humans are attracted to fall into hell.
All in all, I think Dave Mustaine is an incredibly talented musician, but his lyrics are totally cringy.
You forgot to mention that when Mustaine rereleased the Mechanix he sped up the song from its original speed. Neither Metallica's Four Horseman or Megadeth's Mechanix are played at the original speed.
James sounded different on No Life Til Leather
Hmmm maybe because he was younger 🤔🤔🤔
No, you don't sound like lars
Awesome video
Jens Harald Not enough "um"
To be honest I like the Metallica demo version of Mechanix better than the Megadeth version and the Four Horsemen. It's not as fast as the Megadeth version, and the lyrics sound better from Hetfield, but it's still faster than the FH, which I think is a little too slow.
Well, listen to metallica live version of four horsemen in the middle 80s
That's really fast!!!
HE FUCKING LEFT THE BAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 2:46
If you wanna hear Jump in the Fire with the original lyrics, then it's certainly live shows until 01.05.1983 =)*
I prefer the Album Jump.
It's my favorite song off Kill em All, and the visuals they paint in the Album version just adds to the amazingness.
The reason why the NLTL version of Phantom Lord doesn't have the interlude in the middle of the solo was because it simply wasn't written yet along with the solos on the demo
1:25 no it doesn't, Whiplash, No Remorse and obviously Anesthesia are missing
Keep making metallica videos!
Demos are sometimes the only thing i can listen to of some of my faverite projects. Love being into black metal ;~;
Lets be honest, Mechanix vs The Four Horsemen is redundant. The Four Horsemen is a mile better. Dropped the shitty innuendo lyrics and had one of the best breakdowns of its time.
I agree that The Four Horsemen has better lyrics, but Mechanix (from "Killing is My Business... and Business is Good") sounds a lot better (both the vocals and the guitar).
RuffisInc Virgin Mechanix Chad Four Horseman
I love playing kill am all riffs
Four Horsemen is boring as fuck
To each their own when it comes to Mechanix and Four Horsemen. Obviously Mechanix is better if you're talking about thrash metal, although the lyrics are kinda childish but nonetheless and impressive as hell song because of the speed. Four Horsemen has way better melody and some would say it sounds better being slower than Mechanix and I'd probly agree. Both awesome songs, just really depends on your mood.
Hearing Rust in Peace was such a revelation to the shaping of heavy metal to me, I couldnt imagine it never existing... Dave would not have lasted long in Metallica even if they hadnt kicked him out that morning... It would have been a different morning lol
Thoroughly enjoyed this.
Hey thank you for watching! Appreciate it.
Nah, i prefer the mechanix
2:47 you did it, fuck yeah!
1:44
I'm assuming they were changed because they were lyrics that Dave wrote. Similar to The Mechanics was changed to The Four Horsemen. They were Dave's songs first.
0:19 wow! A Necrodeath tape! I'm a big fan of that band, it's quite underground and very hard to see someone knowing them outside of Italy! 🤘🇮🇹
Without METALLICA, we wouldn't know what actual METAL is!!! Im
LMAO THAT DEMO FOR ONE
i have a civics project due in 5 hours why the fuck am i watching this
i prefer tthe new lyrics other than that i like the original
You can say which is better..lyrics..etc..etc..Megadeth or Metallica..etc...but at the end of the day..it's a Mustaine song..that Metallica changed ...it's still Mustaine's...
That's a Fact..
Not all of them
Well the two most significant changes are that Ron left and Dave got kicked out.
Love the jump in the fire demo. And to all the people shittin on mechanix .. Dave wrote it first. The four horsemen is my favorite off KEA , although its a hard pick , but that doesn’t take from the amazing thrash experience you get from Mechanix
Good comment I also prefer and really like Mechanix. Also want to hear original jump in the gire
I prefer Kill 'Em Al's Jump in the Fire, partly because the obviously sexual lyrics are stupid, and kinda rapey. The first replacement lyrics were just as stupid. The final product is underappreciated.
This is a good video with good voiceovers. Good data on here.
I prefer both versions. I can't listen to any Metallica after 1990 though. Just can't do it.
Someday I hope to find a no life till leather tape…
Dave didn't 'leave' the band he was kicked out..
"the only thing" is just a random name some guy made up for that demo
NLTL | Kill 'em all
Hit the lights|
|The 4 horsemen
|Motorbreath
|Jump int he fire
|Phantom lord
|Seek and destroy
|Metal militia
I havent ranked the other songs because they aren't in NLTL. So it turns out that I like only hit the lights more in life til leather ahahah.
One thing mentioned in this video about how No Life Til Leather had all Kill Em All tracks is false, it not having Anesthesia, Whiplash, or No Remorse
Great stuff dude, thanks for bringing this out... I've been a Metallica fan since I was a kid but didn't really know that much about the demos... I know, some fan I am... lol
Jump In The Fire and Mechanix both have to do with sex, and were Mustaine's lyrics so Metallica changed them when he was ousted. I like the demos.
Dave wrote mechanix when he was 15 . it's the worst song on megadeths first record while horseman is one of the best on kill em all so it doesn't make sense to compare them . listen to looking down the cross , skull beneath the skin or rattlehead . Really any other song on killing is my business . comparing mechanix to the upgraded horseman is why people cement megadeth in their mind as a b version of metallica
Lol, the Jump In The Fire lyrics were hilarious. Unpopular opinion but I don't like Mechanix...nor Four Horsemen. I know both songs have their undying fans but to me they're a little too repetitive. However, I think both have their strengths. Mechanix is pure, raw energy while Four Horsemen is groovy and has more riffs than Mechanix does.
I see you everywhere. I used to prefer The Four Horseman to Mechanix. But as I started to mature musically I began to warm to Mechanix, to the point where I think its superior to The Four Horseman
Chubba Hustle If you see me everywhere it means that we both have fine music taste...and I have (or at least had) way too much time in my hands
Um sound like sweet home Alabama because Dave said in an interview he ripped the melody or riff
Because cliff loved that song and he did it supposedly with out Lars’s knowing at the time
Kil Em All > No life till Leather.
Dave Mustaine wrote the slow section of Four Horsemen as intentional sounding like Sweet Home Alabama. He and Cliff were Skynerd fans. Lars asked for a slow section in FH and as a joke Mustain played a slow version of SHA.
The original lyrics for Jump in the fire suck.
The lyrics are better in the four horsemen and the middle part is awesome, while the speed in the Mechanix is way better, but guess what, anyway this is Dave's song and everything but the horsemen lyrics is written by him
The riff in the four horsemen IS sweet home Alabama. Listen to Dave tell the story. Pretty interesting
Boss Major it ISNT the four horsemen, if you’ve played either on guitar, you’d know they’re not exactly the same. And Dave LEFT THE FUCKING BAND before Cliff wrote that part, so how the hell would he know
Phantomlord067 why are you acting like a prick Mr Guitar God?
Boss Major dude I’m not, all I said was they’re not the same because they aren’t, they’re similar, but that doesn’t make them the same. I know this because I can play both, that doesn’t make a “prick guitar god”
Demo was crap but by the time they made Kill Em All Wow massive improvement
Dave also uses the same solo in the conjuring (megadeth) as he did in phantom lord while being in Metallica
I love that thumbnail
METAL UM ALL
2:48 No he got fired. We all know that
The lyrics of The Mechanix of Megadeth weren't the same that they were on No Life Till Leather
Very informative video. I have been a Metallica fan since 1995 and am surprised i didn't know half the info in this video. Good stuff keep up the good work!
Someone should re-record the songs they were with Dave minus the the solos and the lyrics.
being more of a megadeath fan i find it really hard to get into metallica, so i had ago at listening to Kill Em All and was blown away with it then i herd about this demo, and in my opinion they sounded so much better with Dave in the band.
Oh my god you're crazy
@@juanrezende4914 and what makes you say that?
@@lordjoemott1683 because you prefer Dave's lyrics
It's probably because you're more of a Megadeth fan so his solo style on the early Metallica songs is familiar to you
Jump in the fire original lyrisc by Mustaine. The best if them. Mustaine Wrote "Mechanix" song and lyrics, "Jump in the fire" song and lyrics, "Metal militia" song and "Phantom Lord" song too.
Kirk once said in an interview that the main centerpiece of Orion was originally the end of Sanitarium
0:19 discharge that is all😎👌
Love your vids keep it up
I honestly think they changed the lyrics because Dave had big influence (in fact wrote a lot if not all of) The Four Horsemen and Jump In The Fire. If not that, then they changed them because they wanted to not be labeled a “Gay. L. A. Metal” band themselves.
OH MY GOD I HAVE ALWAYS SAID TO EVERYONE THAT THE FOURHOURSMEN INTERLUDE SOUNDS LIKE SWEET HOME ALABAMA AND NO ONE GETS IT!!!
3:06 it is based on SHA, and Kirk didn’t write it, Mustaine wrote that too
Interlude solo was written by kirk
The third solo in master of puppets demo sounds pretty fucking cool but was removed.
Kirk couldn't keep up with dave
Wa na na na na, wa na na na nanana
Only thing was what would be sanitarium and orion together. They had two riffs put together and it never worked well so they split them apart. The Metallica writes songs is they jave a riff and build off it like you normall would but in each time they tour and write a riff each one becomes its own song so like with MoP eight riffs, eight songs
You forgot the difference between Ron and Cliff's bassline in Jump in the Fire .
James changed The Mechanix, Phantom Lord and Jump In The Fire so that he could claim writing credits. Otherwise a guy that they kicked out would have sole writing credits for a third of the album, not a good look.
Chris Ashby They changed the lyrics to Jump in The Fire and The Four Horsemen because they said that they never wanted to be a Glam/Hair Metal band...
The four horsemen was written after Dave and Co. heard sweet home Alabama and decided to play that same riff and drop the end to it.
Dave did it as a joke, and lars took it seriously.
😂😂
They changed the lyrics because they wanted to just make straight thrash metal and get away from the sex crazed bullshit such as glam metal at the time.
No Life 'Til Leather and Kill 'Em All have been the only Metallica I've listened to in the last 15 years. Seek & Destroy is a stone cold classic, but having heard it so many times (as a teen I used to listen to it every time before leaving to the city to drink), I would probably pin Jump in the Fire as my favorite now. It kinda is "young people's music," it's hard to get into all the classic Trash in the way I used to, long time ago.
This is awesome. I've been waiting for a new video from you! Keep it up'
Thank you! Yea, sorry for the delay in videos. Hopefully these can start coming out more consistently.
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Dave didn't leave the band he was kicked out and that part about lynard skynard is actually turned Dave used that to trick Lars he just took out the last riff
miss information with he fucking left the band....he did leave Dave Mustaine that is....but came back....then fired after the dog incident...btw way you ask about the Jump in the fire lyrics demo....reason just like The Mechanix Dave Mustaine wrote and brought to Metallica just watch the 30th Anniversary Lars tells the story it was one original song out a couble Dave Mustaine wrote completely before coming into Metallica watch this after they played Phantom Lord with Dave Mustaine...before going into JITF Lars tells about the song ruclips.net/video/yxUQQVc2yrA/видео.htmlm16s
There’s a interview with Dave and he said The Four Horsemen riff was sweet home Alabama but change a little bit
what upsets me is that the song Let it Loose didn’t make it to Kill ‘Em All
It was a cover tbf
Huge difference specially in Jamie's voice ! Way to high !
Dave Mustaine wrote all Metallica songs from Kill'em All -> Black album. 100% true, ask Dave Mustaine
No, it doesn't "sound like Sweet Home Alabama". Grasping at straws much?
Dumbass
They probably changed the lyrics to jump in the fire because it was very typical of glam rock to sing about sex. And since Dave probably wrote the lyrics.
I like The Mechanics, Mechanix, and The Four Horsemen equally.
I'm not a fan of Dave's lyrics from this period. Basically just hair metal junk.
He's a beast on the guitar though!
Man, I thoroughly enjoyed this. I'm subscribing to your channel right now!!
Ya those original jump in the fire lurics is way to motley crue sounding. Probably why they changed it.
HE FOCKIN LEFT THE BAND
PERIOD . EXCLAMATION POINT !
The Lord made it possible for us to do stuff
Lol jump in to fire turned into a sex who knew. What a twist!
Okay, where is that image at 4:14 from? I could swear I've seen it before, and it's clearly Metallica, but it isn't the cover of Jump in the Fire and I can't find it. Anybody know?
Power metal I believe
Every best version is the one that rings in the head.
no ne didnt left, he got fired! not even dave would lie that much.