And I guess now we know why Lars potted Jason all way down. His bass lines are great, too. I'd love to hear this remixed proper, it would be even more amazing
It cracks me up, the people ragging on the performance here. First, it was rehearsal, second, these guys were teens when they were making this kind of awesomeness. How many garage bands were kicking like this so early on before becoming famous? Give me a break, haters! LoL
Most bands back in the 80s were just making bad covers sound even worse, these guys were creating magic in the form of music. Yes, the timing is a little off, the lead sounds a little sloppy, the mix is bad and it’s still the best damn garage band tape that I’ve ever heard. Hearing all these guys in their rawest form is a rare occurrence, looking for something other than a great listen into the past is probably just a waste of time.
Sounds like a pretty typical teenage metal band practicing at home - without all the bells and whistles (read: money) of professional studio production.
no, he was not. James played guitar from the beginning. they even searched for a vocalist before James took up the duties and since then, he is referred as vocalist.
@@adrito_talukdar You can hear that there's only one guitar in THIS recording, though. And you can tell it's Mustaine because James isn't a very good fast lead player.
Thats how it is: a group of young kids stars from scratch, learns how to perform, try writing their own music and after a lot of work becames the most inluenitial heavy metal band in the world. This vídeo is a lesson for people who wants to be amusician. The fact that so many people dont understand this in the comment session makes me worry about the future of rock and heavy metal music...
Do you realize for all the hype "Kill Em All" has garnered in the past 39 years, the stellar musicianship and the legendary status, that it's only sold 3 million albums?
@@ktw70 People focus on the Justice issue, just for the sake of jokes and conversation, but the fact is, all the other albums (and the 87 EP) with Jason have a very perceptible bass. More than many other metal bands. The Black Album is king, but the other releases also have an excellent and strong tone. When I put on the Load album, and "Ain't My Bitch" kicks in, the first thing that I noticed is always the bass.
I think the most impressive thing about this is how accurate the notes are. I seriously doubt they had tabs or anything like that they just had to listen to the tape over and over again and for that that's why these guys kicked ass
tabs exist since the 50's , it was an alternative to music sheet, with note, sometime you had also the tabs with it, you could buy it at the usic store,, the whole system exist since longtime , for every instrument. Musical lesson was a luxe , so not eveyone was able to get lesson. It was not a common things like today, but pple without knowledge in how to read music was the target. i dont know if metallica use something like this, but , for sure this syystem existed at this time.
@@steevelapointe1152 the tab system is old as you said, but i don't think Diamond Head was that popular of a band to have people making guitar tabs in guitar books at the time. Its a known fact that Metallica were absolute Diamond Head fanatics, so its not hard to imagine them listening to these songs over and over and learn them from memory.
@@steevelapointe1152 He's not saying tabs didn't exist then. He's saying that tabs for fringe British metal bands like Diamond Head almost certainly didn't exist then.
Metal folklore is still floating around that Metallica did in fact incorporate a bass guitar into their songs. It's only old wives tales a rumour though.......
We can all thank Black Sabbath for "Am I evil" they inspired Diamond Head to write this song, which helped inspire Metallica to be the band they became.
@@micharosa6201 We all have different lines of ancestors, even before human beings came to be, but your father is your father. And your mother is your mother.
Been ages since I heard this. Ron's tone is actually very good, here, but his precision is way off, along with everybody else (of course, Lars is the other half of the rhythm section, so maybe Ron's the one who's actually on time). He actually does a really good job of recreating Colin Kimberly's bass sound on the original Diamond Head version. Used to get all this stuff on bootleg CD's as a 12-year-old in the 90's, meaning I knew almost nothing besides Metallica and that cassette of We Sold Our Souls For Rock N' Roll that my sister's stoner friend kicked down one day, and that I was not very popular, haha. The change in their sound on the Cliff's First Show bootleg (maybe actually his second or third show with them) was profound, and you can really hear their original sound as a band come together on that recording, which actually has somewhat decent audio. I was lucky to find a CD called The Metallic-Era way early on, so I actually heard the original versions of all their NWOBHM covers (and Killing Joke's The Wait and ANL's So What) before I heard Metallica's versions. There was so much mystique about bands like Diamond Head; I tried to find their stuff everywhere. I had no idea you could just ask the record store guy to order it for you, haha. Diamond Head's original of The Prince is awesome, was my favorite song for quite a while; never cared for Metallica's take on that one.
You can't be serious. It sounds like it was recorded with a single mic buried under blankets and pillows. And that's before we even get to the number of beats that Lars simply skips over.
Metallica videos are littered with Mustaine fanboys who also mention Metallica disproportionately on Megadeth videos, they are more obsessed with Metallica than anyone
This is so awesome. MetallicA will always be my favorite band because they make me want to START a band. (another one, I've been in many already on bass and guitar)
Being from the 80's i got to see a lot of garage bands some where really good the only that was great was Hallstar. But these guys sound awesome at this young of age .
@@michaelboyle5805 it's good that you think so, it means you never were in the dark places the band was, and me as well the album helped them, the album helped and still is helping me be safe bro and keeping rocking
@@Faks.09 how can that snare sound help you in life? i understend music, lyrics... but does snare had to be that bad to help you in your worst time in life?
I'm pretty sure young Mustaine could play Lights Out in his free time. That's how good he was back then. I can hear the Schenker influence on those leads.
I know..even when he was "good" he would still play some shake your damn head fills. So basically yeah, not a good drummer at all, his fundamentals are horrendous.
wth are u on? first of all dave is one of my favourtie thrash guitar players, but that doesnt change the fact that in this recording he messed up a lot of times..just listen to the solo.. he can not bend..literally fcking bend..he is sloppy in that tape..how can u say he was carrying the band?
lars also lost the beat a couple of times , ron's playing sound kinda weak,again a lot of mistakes so i am not saying daves was the only one that made mistakes but he definately didnt carry
@@muriloninja haha dude listen to the intro.. He is off time like twice or three times.. But they all made mistakes in that particular recording so i assume it was not something important for them
@@Emanresuadeen check out ron interviews if you can find any on RUclips. I have a tape of the last day of KNAC with Ron and his family members calling in saying that lars was the one that at the end Ron and lars weren't seeing eye to eye. Try finding it under last day of KNAC all day long they played rare Metallica stuff and rare interviews. Cheer's 🍺
He quit because he overheard that James and Lars were trying to recruit cliff Burton so he quit before he was fired. James and Lars always said Ron was a bit too straight edge and serious for Metallica
You can hear Dave's fingers, his DNA. Rare to hear Ron and Dave together. He's good but, he'd agree with you that he's not the bands best bassist ever. I wish they'd documented more of the Mustaine days. I
It's dope because it's rough. This is what modern music is missing; the raw energy without all the computer gimmicks that sanitize the sound until it's milk toast bland.
@@justineslick6463 March 13 1983 was my start to life. Dave Mustaine was kicked outta Metallica 28 days after I was born and Metallica played their 1st gig 364 days b4 I was born.
Ron be like: My garage, My bass volume
Lol
And I guess now we know why Lars potted Jason all way down. His bass lines are great, too. I'd love to hear this remixed proper, it would be even more amazing
I love big punchy bass in my heavy metal. Metallica needed more of this type mixing.
Not his song though
This bass amp goes to 11 lol
This garage tape has more bass than the mixed and mastered version of AJFA😂😂😂.
I wonder if it ever occurred to Metallica after Cliff's death to ask Ron to play bass again.
Did you come up with that joke by yourself?
More bass than all of their records
Bass recorded on tape sounds great
This is the reason of he was fired!!! (so loud bass guitar! lol)
It cracks me up, the people ragging on the performance here. First, it was rehearsal, second, these guys were teens when they were making this kind of awesomeness. How many garage bands were kicking like this so early on before becoming famous? Give me a break, haters! LoL
People ragging aren't musicians, but rather ignorant plebs.. They don't understand the miracles of studio editing.
Thank you. Yes bunch of fucking idiots the haters
Most bands back in the 80s were just making bad covers sound even worse, these guys were creating magic in the form of music.
Yes, the timing is a little off, the lead sounds a little sloppy, the mix is bad and it’s still the best damn garage band tape that I’ve ever heard. Hearing all these guys in their rawest form is a rare occurrence, looking for something other than a great listen into the past is probably just a waste of time.
Sounds like a pretty typical teenage metal band practicing at home - without all the bells and whistles (read: money) of professional studio production.
True story. I spent plenty of time around bands that never went anywhere. They sounded like trash. This is tight as fuck for a practice.
This proves Dave was the only guitar player for a while
no, he was not. James played guitar from the beginning. they even searched for a vocalist before James took up the duties and since then, he is referred as vocalist.
@@adrito_talukdar Really? Could've sworn there was an image or two of the band when James just had a microphone.
@@lemon_curry_ oh there is, james has spike gloves and a tiger print style tank top. funny asf
@@adrito_talukdar I don't hear James' guitar.
@@adrito_talukdar You can hear that there's only one guitar in THIS recording, though. And you can tell it's Mustaine because James isn't a very good fast lead player.
Dude, McGovney was a BEAST
Mustaine and Hetfield said it, he should keep making music
Why is nobody talking about James’ vocals? He sounds almost exactly like Sean Harris lmao
Holy shit he really does
Really tryna hear the prince with these vocals
His voice doesn't but the style is definitely there
I guess when the jam is at your garage, and you make the tape, you get to put the mic closest to your amp. No, And Justice For All here.
Thats how it is: a group of young kids stars from scratch, learns how to perform, try writing their own music and after a lot of work becames the most inluenitial heavy metal band in the world. This vídeo is a lesson for people who wants to be amusician. The fact that so many people dont understand this in the comment session makes me worry about the future of rock and heavy metal music...
Wow, James’ vocals here are fantastic!
Ok, Sal, we want you to de-tune Lars' snare drum.
Tone deaf! This guy
@@who0icu812 Doesn’t get sarcasm this guy!
Yeah! If I wouldnt have seen the V for vocals on the pic here, could have been anyone "singing" here! 😂😂
Amazing how they went from this to Kill Em All in a year 🤘
Cliff's joining the band really kicked them into high gear. Check out Cliff's 1'st Show recording; the change in their sound was huge.
No it's amazing what a little bit of "production value" (money) can do to your overall sound.
It’s just better audio equipment. Nothing else
Do you realize for all the hype "Kill Em All" has garnered in the past 39 years, the stellar musicianship and the legendary status, that it's only sold 3 million albums?
@@davec3901 Lars and James will blame Napster for that. 😂😂😂
This is great to hear. Bunch of teenagers just having a blast.
Ron actually had a pretty decent level of playing, I didn't know that.
even dave and james said he could have gone far if he continued with music
This has more bass than all Metallica albums with Jason combined
Even Cliff bass was more buried than this
This is the reason of he was fired!!! (so loud bass guitar! lol)
The Black Album has the best bass sound of any Metallica record.
@@ktw70 People focus on the Justice issue, just for the sake of jokes and conversation, but the fact is, all the other albums (and the 87 EP) with Jason have a very perceptible bass. More than many other metal bands. The Black Album is king, but the other releases also have an excellent and strong tone. When I put on the Load album, and "Ain't My Bitch" kicks in, the first thing that I noticed is always the bass.
@@HeathenDance Totally agree.
I think the most impressive thing about this is how accurate the notes are. I seriously doubt they had tabs or anything like that they just had to listen to the tape over and over again and for that that's why these guys kicked ass
tabs exist since the 50's , it was an alternative to music sheet, with note, sometime you had also the tabs with it, you could buy it at the usic store,, the whole system exist since longtime , for every instrument. Musical lesson was a luxe , so not eveyone was able to get lesson. It was not a common things like today, but pple without knowledge in how to read music was the target. i dont know if metallica use something like this, but , for sure this syystem existed at this time.
Back then we used our ears. Everyone of us. Didn't take a genius to cover a song.
@@steevelapointe1152 the tab system is old as you said, but i don't think Diamond Head was that popular of a band to have people making guitar tabs in guitar books at the time.
Its a known fact that Metallica were absolute Diamond Head fanatics, so its not hard to imagine them listening to these songs over and over and learn them from memory.
all It takes is basic musical ear which you get being in contact with actual people playing and not RUclips for all your teen years
@@steevelapointe1152 He's not saying tabs didn't exist then. He's saying that tabs for fringe British metal bands like Diamond Head almost certainly didn't exist then.
Wow these guys just might get a record deal one day...
Even here Dave's soloing sounds sooo good
If I had to pick two band members who eventually would quit/be fired, based on this tape, Lars would be both.
Lol
Definitely overrated player in an overrated band
I'm not sure but....I think I hear a bass?
there’s definitely bass
I think that may be Emmett Otter on wash tub bass!
Metal folklore is still floating around that Metallica did in fact incorporate a bass guitar into their songs. It's only old wives tales a rumour though.......
@@bmphil3400 as a bass player / metallica fan, these jokes never get old.
Lame
We can all thank Black Sabbath for "Am I evil" they inspired Diamond Head to write this song, which helped inspire Metallica to be the band they became.
We can all thank Black Sabbath for actually CREATING Metal lol. So... the rest is history.
@@HeathenDance And maybe also Blues Rock bands.
And maybe Gustav Holst for Mars: Bringer of War many years before that.
Dont forget Mustaine who helped with Metallica's early sound
@@micharosa6201 We all have different lines of ancestors, even before human beings came to be, but your father is your father. And your mother is your mother.
Ron is a savage on the bass.
I didn't think Ron would be very good, but I actually quite like his playing.
Wow!! Historic recordings!!!
Take note kids: Great players record themselves. Tape doesn't lie.
Dave Mustaine is fing really good on this. He is an incredible talent. Could never take anything away from his abilities.
He is one of the best ever.
Funny to hear how much more they're trying to do what Diamond Head did before they found their own voice and did it their own way.
Em 2022 venho aqui dizer que hoje esses guris de 1982 viraram um sucesso! 😊
Foudasss
Excepto o pobre Ron =/
Call me kooky, call me crazy, but I think these guys might have a future.😁🍻🙃
The true heart of metallica. Ron Fn' McGovney
This must have been during Jaymz' "I'm only going to sing" phase. Very cool.
In 82'...I was 12 and James was 19...me and James have the same birthday (August 3rd).
Been ages since I heard this. Ron's tone is actually very good, here, but his precision is way off, along with everybody else (of course, Lars is the other half of the rhythm section, so maybe Ron's the one who's actually on time). He actually does a really good job of recreating Colin Kimberly's bass sound on the original Diamond Head version. Used to get all this stuff on bootleg CD's as a 12-year-old in the 90's, meaning I knew almost nothing besides Metallica and that cassette of We Sold Our Souls For Rock N' Roll that my sister's stoner friend kicked down one day, and that I was not very popular, haha. The change in their sound on the Cliff's First Show bootleg (maybe actually his second or third show with them) was profound, and you can really hear their original sound as a band come together on that recording, which actually has somewhat decent audio. I was lucky to find a CD called The Metallic-Era way early on, so I actually heard the original versions of all their NWOBHM covers (and Killing Joke's The Wait and ANL's So What) before I heard Metallica's versions. There was so much mystique about bands like Diamond Head; I tried to find their stuff everywhere. I had no idea you could just ask the record store guy to order it for you, haha. Diamond Head's original of The Prince is awesome, was my favorite song for quite a while; never cared for Metallica's take on that one.
What are you babbling about? Lars sounds just fine here.
@@eazye519 Yes, I know it's Ron who is wildly off time. I just thought Lars deserved some of the blame, regardless.
@@morgellon9449 oh stfu. Without Lars metallica doesn't exist. You're probably still butthurt over Napster.
@@eazye519 It's called a joke. Like your life. Keep simping for Lars, maybe he'll marry your mom.
@@eazye519 Yeah buddy, I work for Napster, so I got a little problem with your buddy Lars. 😡😡😡
This seriously sounds much better than the eventual record, nice and raw, bass and Dave absolutely killing it.
Strongly agree. Listen to some demos man. You'll have the same preference. Raw and unfiltered, but pure.
You can't be serious. It sounds like it was recorded with a single mic buried under blankets and pillows. And that's before we even get to the number of beats that Lars simply skips over.
no.... and the solo... hurt ears...
Cornballs don't take the context of time when it comes to prototypes.
You do know this isn't a metallica song
Rare demo of Megadeth performing "When"
Lol
Lol
There is no “megadeath “ it’s the Dave mustaine group,and always has been
This band is pretty good. wonder what happened to them.
Just a flash in the pan. I doubt they ever amounted to much- probably all working in fast food now.
Fantastic version. Good to hear some loud bass guitar for a change :)
came for copper, found GOLD!
I Love this tape Record.... fantástic
Mcgovney beastmode here
Amazing bass killer 🤘
65% of comments: "LOL look at all the Dave fanboys!!!"
0% of comments: Dave fanboys
Dave is the most talented in the band.....
i havent seen any "look at all the dave fanboys" comments anywhere but have seem a few fanboys
Metallica videos are littered with Mustaine fanboys who also mention Metallica disproportionately on Megadeth videos, they are more obsessed with Metallica than anyone
This is so awesome. MetallicA will always be my favorite band because they make me want to START a band. (another one, I've been in many already on bass and guitar)
I thought your area was mainly psychiatry
@@porkchopexpress84 when I'm not busy mixing it up with Michael Audry Meyers but I'd rather potty
Damn being able to play both is kinda xool
Damn. I like this version better
Awesome version. Why it the 1st time I've heard this one?! Thanks for posting!
The best garage sound !!
FUCK YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds awesome, They were destined for this shit
This tape gave James and Lars bass PTSD...That explains a lot 🤔
Ron; " Can you hear my bass??? I hope I passed the audition!!!"
Being from the 80's i got to see a lot of garage bands some where really good the only that was great was Hallstar. But these guys sound awesome at this young of age .
Hellstar not hallstar
Were not where
Just know that even Metallica sounded like beginners, don't ever give up!
Still a better snare sound than St Anger.
That goes for every other snare sound ever recorded.
That snare is still the best option for st. Anger sound, it just fit
@@Faks.09 yeah that lp was crap
@@michaelboyle5805 it's good that you think so, it means you never were in the dark places the band was, and me as well
the album helped them, the album helped and still is helping me
be safe bro and keeping rocking
@@Faks.09 how can that snare sound help you in life? i understend music, lyrics... but does snare had to be that bad to help you in your worst time in life?
James' voice has gone full circle, this recording with the vibrato he is doing sounds like S&M2 style...
Guitar sounds very precise here
Hearing this who'd ever think any of them would have made it as big as they are or at any level.
You can tell back then something was happenings here
Yes they sound awesome
Imagine being Ron Mcgovney?! The guy can actually say, "yeah, I was in metallica."
I'm happy they decided to record
I have this on 8 track but it’s only 2/3 rds full...
HELL YEAH🤘
Metallica actually sounds kick ass with some bass. Too bad they never bothered to use any after this first practice tape.
This is pretty good sound for a garage tape.
I wanna hear a Black Sabbath version of am I evil
for me Metallica was teenage early 20's phase where as Sabbath is everlasting,timeless legendary
I'm pretty sure young Mustaine could play Lights Out in his free time. That's how good he was back then. I can hear the Schenker influence on those leads.
I’m here for the comments from all the unsuccessful musicians berating the most successful musicians,and as usual there’s a bunch of them
Nice solo Dave!
This is the only Metallica recording where I can actually hear the bass.
Orion, Suicide and Redemption, pretty much anything instrumental
Anaesthesia (Pulling Teeth)….???
Oh man hell of a number, bears listening to orig
Better than most of the new stuff
Sounds great
Epic
This is awesome stuff still better than diamond head .....
Those good old Metallica songs ...the covers and the ones Mustaine wrote ...CLASSICS!!!
Well there's only actually 2 originals on this tape, 1 from Mustaine and 1 from Hetfield
You think only the songs Mustaine wrote are good?
Yeah Dave was so good they fired him,and then went on to become the most successful metal band in history without him
I really want a beer and to go stand next to the speaker. 😂
You can hear the bass for once!
Mustaine was really good here. That was him on lead!
Relíquia
Pure AF
This is part of Metallica's "everyman" appeal.
Until they sued their own fans, sold out and 1991 came.
@@snakeknife7518 Metallica self titled is good
@@snakeknife7518 oh damn that's a good album
Holy shit, can Dave play. Sorry, Kirk, but Dave's the man.
Mantap....👍🏻🤘🏻💥
The bass is fuck yeah!
Lars has got to be the luckiest drummer alive, can't even keep a damn beat
the only guy than never went against James...thats the only reason
I know..even when he was "good" he would still play some shake your damn head fills. So basically yeah, not a good drummer at all, his fundamentals are horrendous.
@@muriloninja Maybe you should give him lessons since you are so awesome....
He was still learning here dumbass.
@@ash80510 I guess hes still learning then lmao
Wow. Mustaine really carried them early.
wth are u on? first of all dave is one of my favourtie thrash guitar players, but that doesnt change the fact that in this recording he messed up a lot of times..just listen to the solo.. he can not bend..literally fcking bend..he is sloppy in that tape..how can u say he was carrying the band?
lars also lost the beat a couple of times , ron's playing sound kinda weak,again a lot of mistakes so i am not saying daves was the only one that made mistakes but he definately didnt carry
@@arisgtr7753 Ron's playing sounded weak? Are you deaf?
@@muriloninja haha dude listen to the intro.. He is off time like twice or three times.. But they all made mistakes in that particular recording so i assume it was not something important for them
Fucking right he did!!
The loudest bass has ever been for Metallica:
Ron would have been suited playing for the Oak Ridge boys band.
I think Dave kicks ass on these!
since that time they already Helpless???? 😨
Is it just me or does it sound like the bass is playing the riff on major on the start?
Sic and Ron had a thick ass bass sound. Larz is a dushbag for kicking him out.
Lars didn’t. McGovney quit after fights with Mustaine.
@@Emanresuadeen check out ron interviews if you can find any on RUclips. I have a tape of the last day of KNAC with Ron and his family members calling in saying that lars was the one that at the end Ron and lars weren't seeing eye to eye. Try finding it under last day of KNAC all day long they played rare Metallica stuff and rare interviews. Cheer's 🍺
@@EmanresuadeenHE FOKING LEFT THE BAND !
I feel like I'm there
That's "not james" on vocals!
Why was the original bass player fired? I think he sounds lit here. Does anybody know?
He quit after Dave Mustaine poured a whole beer into his bass, which blew him across the room when he plugged it in.
ruclips.net/video/1zlzcgKIj8Y/видео.html#t=4m46s
He quit because he overheard that James and Lars were trying to recruit cliff Burton so he quit before he was fired.
James and Lars always said Ron was a bit too straight edge and serious for Metallica
@@imagereflection4826 Mustaine was also an asshole
@@imagereflection4826HE FOKING LEFT THE BAND !
Ron made business cards and he came up with the phrase " Power Metal " and lars didn't like it. " What's this power metal "
Thats why one of their demos is called power metal
Sorry but I just don't see these guys going anywhere.
You can hear Dave's fingers, his DNA. Rare to hear Ron and Dave together. He's good but, he'd agree with you that he's not the bands best bassist ever. I wish they'd documented more of the Mustaine days. I
More oak ridge boys
I like it, it's rough but dope as fuck
It's dope because it's rough. This is what modern music is missing; the raw energy without all the computer gimmicks that sanitize the sound until it's milk toast bland.
The oak ridge boys rock
I was 1 year away from life when this shit was recorded.
I was born march 9th 1982. Pretty badass.
@@justineslick6463 March 13 1983 was my start to life. Dave Mustaine was kicked outta Metallica 28 days after I was born and Metallica played their 1st gig 364 days b4 I was born.
@@jareddavidmanifold313 randy rhodes and I were on the same planet for 11 days. Shits sad
@@justineslick6463 o yeah it crushed the guys in quiet riot and of course ozzy Sharon the band and the rest of the metal community
@@jareddavidmanifold313 he was so young. The music he would have created. He wasnt done getting better.
I hear an Iron Maiden reference
I hear bass? Lars must of kept his hands out the mix... \m/