The Volkswagen TDI - Overcoming Decades of Diesel Stigma
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- The stigma surrounding VW TDI's is now decades old. But how do these stigmas stand up today? Were the infamous "Diesel Gate" cars affected by these stigmas? And do the new stigmas with "DieselGate" matter day-to-day?
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The ”stigma” seems to be mainly a US thing.
Erm what the stigma?
I've had three VW diesels first one 1997 Passat second one 2005 Passat third one and current 2015 Golf mk7
and still love them all.
Most people when asked about diesel cars think of the 80's Benz 300TD, or lifted trucks rolling coal. Most don't have personal experience with Diesel engines. In this day and age, hybrid cars especially would benefit from diesel engines but California's CARB has destroyed any incentive for auto manufacturers to bring back diesel-powered cars. Too bad, like many diesel owners I've have multiple diesel-powered cars: 99Jetta TDI, 2013 Sportwagen TDI, 2014 Sportwagen TDI, 2017 328d wagon, 2018 328d sedan which I just bought. I'd rather buy a 6 year old diesel than any of these new hybrids with CVTs or EVs, all of them at least $10K more than the 2018 328d, less reliable and more complicated to repair. And yes, I am standing on my lawn shaking my fist at the clouds while typing this.
LOL no they don’t
I've had 4 diesel VWs. I drove a mk1 Rabbit back in the early 90's (I still have it), and it lived up to a lot of the stigmas of diesels. It was slow, smokey, and a pain to start when it was cold. That said, it got incredible mileage, and for a college kid that was priceless. My mk4 Golf TDI was a tank that was the most reliable car I've ever had. It would get 44-46mpg pretty regularly (55mpg is stretching there, mister!) and go 700 miles per tank without any problem. I sold it with 400K miles on it, and currently have a mk7 Golf TDI. I still think if they had put the DEF tanks in the mk5 and mk6 CR engines, they'd still be selling TDIs today. It sounds like you've deleted yours, since when you have the emissions equipment there is no smoke, period. I've never been able to smell or see any smoke from either my mk7 or my wife's Beetle TDI.
56mpg is my best to date. It was a trip from MN to Chicago and back. Lots of going the speed limit and drafting when possible.
@@eurodriven2507 that’s really impressive for any modern TDI. Best in my mk1 was 55mpg on a trip from Denver to Albuquerque. Best on my mk4 was 49.18 (so close!). My mk7 gets about 46 on the highway. The Beetle does the worst (it’s a brick), best we’ve done is about 43.
@@eurodriven2507 I've managed 71 MPG out of my 1.6 TDI from Oxford to Scotland UK
2003 beetle 1.9 pd tdi owner here 🤙🏼
Read my comment up there 👆🏼
@@tychi5916 that would be 59mpg US. In the 1.6L with perfect conditions, I could see it.
I run a 1.9pd tdi beetle, I absolutely love it. It’s got an egr delete and I fit a 150 pd inlet manifold, with a remap. It doesn’t black smoke at all but the smell from the exhaust is like an old truck. 40+ mpg urban. It’s a euro 3 engine (2003). I’m never selling it.
New diesels are too strangled with emission laws.
I just bought a 2012 Golf TDI and I’m getting the wave of learning curve for the car. I love it but it’s taking a bit of money to get it to my expectations.
Never the less, I love it and being able to do highway speeds always…is really nice.
Well made with great info!
Unless u end up deleting the dpf
There's absolutely no diesel smell.
There was no diesel gate scandal in Europe. Only americans who don't care about the environment have come up with this. Classic duplicity.
You’re right they don’t care about the environment. What they want is power and control, and using the ruse of “saving the planet” to get there.
It was just the case in the US. In Europe, around 2010, VW was selling 70% of its cars as diesel. With Dieselgate and climate protests, sales have now plummeted, and many European car manufacturers have stopped using diesel. A lot of TDIs were reliable except for the EGR valve, which you can easily remove. At my house, we have four diesels. Two 1.2 TDIs with 200k km and 130k km on the clock from around 2012. Apart from EGR, classic maintenance has been done. We have one 2.0 TDI, but I don't remember the mileage, and it's from 2020. Still no problem with it. I daily drive a Peugeot 208 with a 1.6l HDI, and it's very comfortable too. I can even tow another car with ease.
Agreed. Just DPF and the urea systems added in later years did add some maintenance hassles.
I liked the bit about environmental impact but i think a much stronger argument is the life cycle of the fuel as well as the vehicle. for gasoline engines, the fuel has many more processes done to it before reaching the pump, and for EVs, manufacturing the batteries has a very negative environmental impact. Diesel is dirtier out of the tailpipe than gasoline, but it's also processed less and is probably better for the environment, especially considering the impressive gas mileage
Interestingly, only Volkswagen has sold modern diesels in America because here in Europe every manufacturer has diesel engines.I drive a Mercedes C Class from 2011 with a 2.1 liter engine and get an average of 39mpg and on the highway up to 50-52mpg .If you know that you drive more and longer distances there, it is really strange that you have so few diesels.
BMW and Mercedes had them too. Chevy had a turbo diesel cruise, and Kia had a diesel Soul iirc. But by and large, it was just VW through the years, aside from trucks of course.
SIGMA!!!!
You could also just by an electric car? They are so reliable, crazy cheap to run, and the best on environmental. I love my Hyundai Kona. I grew up with my dad driving a diesel bmw and even he is driving electric now
In regards to cost of ownership, a TDI is actually very very good. Electric cars have a very rough used market value drop. It takes an enormous amount of fuel burning to offset the cost of ownership from value loss. And this is my road trip car. I often do full 700 mile tanks in one day. That would be a nightmare in an EV.
If you do low mileage? yes i imagine they are cheap to run.