XTREME DI FUEL PUMP INSTALL | Focus ST | Edge Autosport
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Thanks for checking out the video! Today Alan walks us through the install of the Xtreme DI High Pressure Fuel Pump one of our customer's Focus ST. Easy install with a great amount of potential for tuning and power!!!
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Didn't know you guys had a YT channel. Been running a tune from Alan on my ST for 6 months now and has been outstanding!
Glad you found us here! And thanks so much for your support. Alan's bread and butter is the EcoBoost stuff. He loves it.
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You guys need to get into Maverick ecoboost builds since you know this powertrain so well. BTW I’m ordering that T-Shirt 😂
Awesome vid as usual. Don't comment much but as a 30 year machinist and mechanic to boot, adjustable wrenches are not allowed on the table. Sometimes in rare circumstances. Anywho 👍
i have the XDi35 to pair with my BNR71...it is nice to think i wouldnt have to blend and i can just run e85, but I've heard there are some trade offs to only running corn fuel, like it doesnt lubricate the fuel system components like regular unleaded does. Ive been on E30 stock turbo for a few years...never had any issues except a fuel rail pressure sensor failure...now that my BNR71 is in, im waiting for it to be tuned properly where my tuner is happy, then I'll install this exact hpfp (and bt ethanol sensor) and get tuned for that. Still not sure if i want to stick with e30, even just drop 93 in it (nice and easy and available everywhere), or go for an e40/e50 tune... stock clutch so I'm not really wanting to hit peak power right now.
Focus ST - HPFP35 or EVO Pump w/ Injectors required for full E85 on stock turbo, will support up to 450whp on E85. (Built engine and turbo upgrade obviously needed to hit this power number) I saw this on tune + website I thought I was able to run full e85 with just the hpfp?
You can, we just popped an EVO pump on Half-Send in a recent video, ran some E85 through it. It really didn't make much a difference without the added flow of the injectors to match: ruclips.net/video/Lab8eemmQgE/видео.html - we will be putting the injectors in soon to support some bigger turbo options!
I’m really wanting to run just e85 with the fuel pump because of gas prices 91 being almost $7 a gallon compared to e85 $4 a gallon plus zero knock
@@johnlefever3220 That's a valid reason! It can be done, just need to tune for it is all.
If I did the non evo version of the fuel pump I can run up to e85 with a tune without upgrading injectors correct?
@@johnlefever3220 there are benefits to E85 over regular pump..but also drawbacks. From what Ive read, you dont get the lubrication pump fuels provide for your fueling system...and you get worse MPGs (which is why blends work great). So you'll save per gal at the pump, but you'll burn through fuel faster with E85 over 91. $3 worth per gal? depends on your MPG difference. But if you do run E85, you may want to have a dual map so you can run 91 through the system every few tanks to get lubrication in there. I have the XDi35 pump and just installed some RS injectors (sub $200 shipped on rockauto)..and they'll provide plenty of upgraded pressure with the pump to get you well over 400whp...450? not sure.. but if you're on stock block and stock clutch, I wouldnt shoot for much more than 400whp anyways if you want the car to last.
do a fiesta!
I’m torn between this fuel pump or 4-port aux fuel. The turbo I’m looking to go with is the BNR3071, my goals is to reach somewhere between 400-450whp. What do you recommend? I’m trying to run full e85, a rep at graveyard performance told me It be better to upgrade the injectors so the fuel would flow better . Any help advice would be appreciated! Love the videos by the way !
Did you end up choosing
It all depends on your end goals. if 400 to (about) 450whp is your goal, this is the best way to go without complicated installs and tuning. This is a direct bolt on, tune for it, and it'll support up to your goal range. You wont even need injectors or anything. The 2/4 ports are great if you want expand-ability, but they require custom tuning, splicing, extra wiring, lots of installation bits etc...the BNR71 is a perfect turbo paired with this xdi35 hpfp, and you can safely make 400-440whp and even maintain the factory clutch if you're not tearing it up at a track often or running from digs. If you do want more later, and your motor is built for it, you can buy some upgraded injectors (XDi, RS, etc) and squeeze up to the BNR71s limits i believe (just over 500). But stick to the 400-430whp range and i think the factory engine and components will be safe for a lot of miles.
I have the BNR71 sitting in the garage, and just purchased this XDi35 hpfp from someone (used, but like new)... my goal is about 420-430whp on e30, maybe e50 if the tuner will do it.
This pump and 4 port for all the fuel
If I want to run e85 on stock turbo and injecters will this work with this and not have to pre load the wast gate?
Hi, Thank you for the video, really appreciate you sharing the details on the engine. I currently have a 2023 ford maverick (EB 2.0), and I notice the HPFP is getting louder compare to when I first got it, and I noticed some strong gasoline smell from the engine oil cap. The dealer said everything is normal and within the "normal" range :(. I was thinking about to change the HPFP to the Bosch one, and would you recommend to do so? Also, without removing the engine, is it still possible to crank the engine to the "flat" spot when installing the new HPFP? Thank you
The word "dealer" doesn't exactly inspire the most confidence. So take what they say with a grain of salt. A second opinion at a good mechanic's shop might be worth it. But you shouldn't need to change the HPFP unless you need it for further power and tuning. If your pump is bad for any reason and you're stock with a 2023 model, you should get it warrantied. Yes, you can turn the engine without taking it out. Put a wrench on the crank bolt.
Just found the channel...going to consume every video, lol.
Is there any benefit to running this on a stock turbo + FBO running 93? Or another way to ask, is this something you only do after you want a little more from a 2867?
Edit: At the end, did this customer end up being able to run full E85?
Ya you can run more ethanol with this pump on stock turbo, but it's still not going to be a massive game changer.
So honestly do you recommend 4 port injection or the pump ? Also do you get more out of the 4 port injection or are you getting the same fuel you need with the pump ?
It really depends on your goals. The pump will stretch the factory injectors to make more than they would have before. So if your goal is somewhere between 400-450, the pump is a much more convenient choice. If you're shooting for more than that, aux fuel is required anyway. It's probably not a bad idea to do both at that point. But ultimately, just depends on your goals.
Can I use this DI Fuel Pump on my tuned 3.5 liter 2016 Expedition? I also have the Full Race Freak-O-Beast kit, and Full Race oil catch can installed. Thanks.
They do make a HPFP for the twin-turbo 6-banger Ecoboosts, feel free to reach out to our sales department and we can get you squared away!
Question… Where I can find/buy the cam follower?…been searching on Autozone and Ebay.
I have a 2014 Ford Focus ST
Where do the cats cans all route? I’m interested in doing the same
Will this be good for~400whp? Also can't seem to find this on your site
Absolutely!
Can I run stock injectors or do you recommend upgrading them? Trying to achieve 400whp.
If you use the XDI fuel pump, you can achieve 400whp on stock injectors.
How about the fuel tank pump, is there an upgrade for this as well and how much stronger than stock? Great contents!
There's not much out there for true plug and play fuel pumps for the ST. The Radium surge tank setup is a great option and allows for a handful of pumps.
unless you're shooting for high power (i believe anything over 500-550whp or so) theres no reason to touch the lpfp.
I also saw oil on and cleaned it now im worried I fucked up by doing that
So what do I do if the cam follower come out
hello I have a 2016 focus st mk3 facelift in stage 3, forged pistons connecting rods, turbo hybrid x37 pumaspeed, boost 30psi fuel 102ron the power is 374hp flying 334hp wheels, I have the hp pump which loses 100b (1450 psi) between 2400k and 3500k, does the hp pump fix my pressure loss problem?
You got a part number for that COBB intake? Only one I can find is the solid one piece. Jw.
right? i had to remove the entire pipe to do the hpfp upgrade, he just disconnects the filter half..so much more convenient!
With tuning is E-Tunes possible with installing this?
Did you have to drain the gas tank before releasing the high pressure line?
no...there are ways to relieve the line of the fuel pressure, but you can also just let the car sit for a few hours and it should be very minimal when you d/c the lines. On most vehicles you just pull the fuel injector/fuel pump fuse, start the car, and let it die...then theres no fuel in the lines at all.
Question im on a hybrid turbo and i am planning to swap injectors would this pump on oem injectors be better optiong over just switching injectors?
I thought the hybrid turbos maxed out even on the stock fuel system... from the comments, if you're trying to achieve 400+ this fuel pump will allow that without upgrading any other fuel components, as long as the turbo will. I havent seen hybrids hit over 380 or so, even the Garrett PowerMax. Ive been considering this myself. I'd like to keep as much stock as possible without investing in aux fuel or any drastic fueling upgrades...but my HPFP may be going out..so Ive been looking into sensors and pumps, which brought me here.
Hey Alan is this the pump from a focus rs. I was on xdi website and it says they are still working on the pump from focus st.
Their site is a little out of date. We do have the ST one.
anyone know the torque for the 4 bolts?
Just so I’m clear, the only mods this car has is the extreme fuel pump and tune?
This car had some bolt ons and a GTX2867 Gen2
So I have a 2018 ST. I would like to hit 350hp without doing a billion useless mods so right now I'm trying to figure out exactly what my build path will be. So if I set up this pump or the Aux fuel pump from CPE, are you saying I could basically run e85 or maybe an e50 blend and pretty easily hit 350?
350whp is a stretch on the stock turbo for sure - your best path would be add fuel and bolt up a better turbo. For reference, our shop "Half-Send" ST put down just over 300whp/400tq and it has a Garrett Powermax turbo and fuel upgrades. If you need further guidance, make sure to call the shop and we can help you fill out a build list!
@@EdgeAutosport Thanks man! I just emailed the sales team.
If I have a 2971 and I just want to reach 400whp or just over that, should I do 4 port aux or this?
This is where the XDI pump shines actually, that's what I'd do. We are trying to get these in stock so keep your eyes peeled on the site.
@@EdgeAutosport thank you
Can you run pump with aux and run full e85 ?
The XDI pumps are rated for full e85. With compatible injectors, you could get tuned for e85, yes.
Does this pump make the same God awful ticking sound the stock one does?
I think we're so numb to the sound that we haven't really noticed a difference.
Alright guy, is that ST AWD?
No, the dyno is linked and spins no matter what car
Edge Autosport k, I was about to freak out
Highly considering this injector to pair with my pmax turbo would i see any benefit with this at e 30 or e50 on that turbo? Or just stay stock fuel system?
Bonus question, expected gain going from e30 to e50?
The XDi Pump allows you to push the stock injectors to their max which is a great way to get the most you can from the Powermax. This is exactly what we did in the video linked here:
ruclips.net/video/Lab8eemmQgE/видео.html
retail on the pump?
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Is this on stock turbo???????!?!? Please respond
No gt2871 gen 2
What turbo on the car?
Its a gen 2 GTX2867 with IWG.
Yooo why the back wheels turning🤣I thought they were front wheel
They are
Is this the hpfp 35% or 60%
35
@@EdgeAutosport could the EVO pumpwith oem injectors run full e85 without issue around 420+ ?Or do you need the 35 and injectors.
Gosh darn. Do you think this pump can run full e85 with stock injectors and stock in tank pump? I just dont want to deal with mixing. If its making 406/427 and not even dropping any pressure... this might be the route.
We are going to find out here soon. This car will be back on full E85 to see what we can get away with. I don't think it will make much if any more power till he upgrades to EWG, but it will be nice to see if we can get away with full E85 at his current boost levels.
@@TMTMS3 what happend with the e85?
Did you guys get full e85 to work?
@@MILKMANCANGAME it needs injectors also to get e85
@@bobbydouglas16 ahh okay so to run full e85 you need this and injectors?
Bro I just want my package
Will you guys have a tax return sale this year??
Yes
@@EdgeAutosport when does it begin 😅😅
@@EdgeAutosport looking at a turbo kit but want to wait for the sale
This work with pump gas? 91 - 93.