Focus ST ATP Turbo GTX2867R With .64 A/R Turbine Housing Bolt-On 2013-2018 Installation
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- Опубликовано: 8 фев 2016
- Bill shows you how to install a ATP Turbo Mirror Polished Bolt-On Gen 2 GTX2867R Turbo with a .64 A/R Turbine Housing on your 2013-2018 Focus ST.
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The ATP Turbo upgrade kit consists of a Garrett GTX2867R dual ball bearing, oil and water cooled turbo assembly which supports up to 475 horsepower! ATP provides basically everything necessary for a bolt on installation to your Focus ST, such as oil feed lines, coolant lines and mounting hardware.
This turbo upgrade for the 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 or 2018 Focus ST will require a custom tune and an aftermarket blow off valve such as the cp-e Tial Q.
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Can I just give you guys my ST to do future mod videos on or...
Bahhhh. Work on the ST is easy thanks to their videos ... and far more rewarding when you do it yourself. Plus, it's a high performance car. They require a bit more maintenance and attention than your usual car and doing your own upgrades is the perfect way to make sense of it all.
Man, I really love your videos. It's incredible the way you do the job, I don't even have a Focus st, I enjoy watching the videos, though.
These videos have given me confidence to do my own work. I've had a big turbo kit for my ST waiting to be installed when the winter ended and these videos have me psyched for when I can finally do the job.
Guys make everything look so easy
This made me appreciate the ability to just push a button to start my ST
Same!
Man I’d like to do some turbo swaps with bill he seems like a cool guy
I slid out the passenger side axle and dropped the axle tube. Tons of room to work after that. But aside from that I referenced this video a lot during my install.
Great turbo for the car, especially because it's a 2-liter. Personally, I like the EFR6758 for a good balance of boost threshold and responsiveness, and especially the EFR7163 for higher power numbers. Garretts are nice (and are popular for my platform - the Mazdaspeed 3), but EFRs are truly next-level. They're ridiculous.
Garrett's latest offering with the G25 and G30 out-perform the EFR's on the ST in every possible way. They spool faster, they don't run as hot, and they have higher output and possibility compared to their similar in class EFR.
Plus, you can still use the OEM style downpipe and intake with the kits (obviously they need to be replaced but they don't require proprietary intakes or downpipes like the EFR kits require).
Wow that focus looks Nice
Well that looked easy.
The big Turbo on my Veloster N was a 3 day job
Oof. Almost went with a Veloster N after crashing my first ST. Ended up getting another ST. How come it took three days?
A lot of guys day it takes about two days to swap it on the ST. That's generally because they include beers, bathrooms, breaks, and bullshitting with friends.
@@orangejjay motor out job
Also clutch and meth etc
Boost controller
Little stuff takes time
This is so sick... I wish i could send my 18 focus ST to these guys to do about 10-20k worth of upgrades!
Thank you guys so much
Electrical tape bandage Rocks !!!!!
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Instead of removing the RMM, it makes life a lot easier to remove the passenger axle instead.
Getting this turbo installed next week with the bigger AR.
How you liking it?
@@orangejjay Loving it! Pulls hard and smooth. Recently upgraded the HPFP and injectors, running full E85 now. She moves, pulls all the way to 7k rpms. LSD keeps the tires planted.
Really ?? How you gonna just end the vid like that without showing off the turbo more ??
Bruh I can’t even find the video where they show the power results smh
i think I'm the only person who likes the wheels
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Where can I get the background music at? I'm installing a Mountune kit in my shop now and want to be cool like you guys..
cool rims
THOSE WHEELS! OMFG WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?
I kinda liked them 😂 maybe not on my car per say... But on someone else's lol
When you cut that charge pipe to lengthen it, are you worried about that coupler popping off under boost. I ask because you are cutting off the ridge that helps grip the clamp and coupler.
This ST gets driven alot lol. There were cobwebs on the Downpipe and hanger lol.
god damn you are the best
very nice! do you have any tricks for staying organized with this many steps, apart from recording video of it all? do you typically spend some time preparing pictures and notes? thanks.
+icawn I just sort of dive in to an install. I never did a turbo before we shot this video, i knew the concept and figured it out as I went.
Great video. Love watching turbo install vids.... on any car.
I'm so jealous the ST has a V-Band downpipe. I am getting ready to install a BNR S4 on my MS3 and I'm dreading the downpipe removal.
Can you teach me to what you meant by V-band vs others? I'm just getting into turbo cars and would love to be informed. :) please and thank you!
Lots of reading on Garrett, Borg Warner's sites. Also advanced turbo discussions are happening on the EVO forums, Honda Tech, etc. IE these turbos are small potatoes but everything is relevant once you start making power and running 30+ to do it. Stock worm gear clamps will hold 30+ psi, the key is having the right couplers....
Your videos r sooo good can we c more rs installs plz
They have a playlist of 90+ RS installs.
When adding the oil drain tube can the studs on the turbo side be installed when the turbo is off the car? And no loctite on the new studs.
Haha idk how you make these turbo installs look so easy.....
You guys did such a great job for your first time. Are those wheels used just to move cars around the shop? Surely they aren't meant for highway use. They look like fork lift wheels.
Lol smh
... did you just ... fork lift wheels?! 18" fork lift wheels!? lol
All the silver wiring from the stock turbo comes out correct? And that black hose he connected to the fitting is for the coolant hose that was taken out on the driver side of the engine right ? I’m only having trouble with that and the car should be done.
Spool up quicker than the stock turbo? How ?the stock turbo comes on instantly
You stated the boost solenoid lines backwards the first time. Plug side is charge 90 is to waste, other is intake
making turbo swap seem so easy lol
It actually is pretty simple 😂
I know right.... Everything was flowing until they started cutting pipes and all. Lol I was like ok back to the drawing board of tools and parts needed for install
@@keithr5591 What? When did they cut pipes? You mean the vacuum lines or drilling into the charge pipes? Stuff is EASY and the turbo swap on the ST, like most other performance mods on the ST are simple enough for even the beginner to do.
Wait am I going to need a second bov or just relocate it for the big turbo I ordered
i have my solenoid set up exactly like this but my car seems to be overboosting. on my basemap im hitting 27psi on a 3071R
what tune did you guys end up adding how much you guys end up making to the wheels?
That's classified.
What are the size of the vaccum lines example.1/8, 3/16th ?
Do you guys sell the coolant feed line? I have the exact same turbo but it was rubbing against the axle so now all the coolant leaked out of my car and I cant drive it until I get a new coolant line for the turbo,. I have been looking everywhere and cant seem to find just the hose line.
I've seen a lot of other guys remove the axle for the installation, is that not necessary, just makes more room? Or does it depend on the turbo size? I've got a grx-2971R .64ar to get in
How did you get the coolant line to clear the axle?
The cp-e exhale kit needs to use the factory vacuum source. If you don't use that you will have to swap out the wiring for the plain spring.
This isn't true at all. It's recommended to use a vacuum source, generally off a symposer delete, to ensure the blow off valve is supplied by true vacuum instead of the computer controlled device that comes from the factory.
I noticed you drained the coolant. I just seen another install on a forum that said to drain the oil as well. Is draining the oil needed?
Yes. Drain both
You drain both because they leak profusely if you don't. Plus, you're already in and under there. Might as well swap the plugs while you're at it too.
Would you guys do a turbo on my car/ l got a 2005 focus St with a 2.3 Duratec ENGINE .. would you do it???
Can I be affixed without any additions to the engine
After the COBB stage 3 focus st package, what aftermarket turbo would you recommend?
Any big turbo package will do. It moreso comes down to what your goals are and your budget. Garrett's latest, the G25 series, is the cream of the crop but uses an external wastegate which requires a screamer pipe and/or someone to route a pipe back into your exhaust. EFR makes some great kits if you can get them (Full Race seems to have mixed info on whether or not they support the ST anymore and Mountune is horrible with stock).
Video helped out a bunch, but some of the angles are tough to figure out and wish you showed the line routing a bit. Also is there a reason why you didnt put the oil drain studs on the turbo before hand. Was kind of annoying putting them in place after the turbo is mounted.
Honestly it was my first time installing a turbo so I kinda learned as I went.
Those are the crocs of the wheel world.
Can you put this on a 2013 Ford Escape running an Automatic Trans because both are running the same 2.0T engine
Hello my friend, I saw your video and it is the same thing that I want to do to my Focus St, but before doing so I want to ask you some questions: what does your car have to have so that the turbo GTX2867R can work normally? Did you do the new programming inside the cobb? Did you change suspension or brakes or gas pump
Custom tune from a tuning company through the cobb. Need a pc to download it. And a bigger intercooler really is all you need. Full 3 inch exhaust and cold air intake will help a bit too. Plus oil catch cans to play it safe
Fueling doesn't need to be changed until you're going 350+ HP. Engine internals are good until about 440 HP.
An upgraded downpipe and intercooler are REQUIRED along with a charge pipe and blow off valve that will fit it (don't buy the JBR charge pipes as their fitment sucks).
You will also need a big turbo tune. Some companies (like Stratified) include the tune with your big turbo package purchase. Alan Jackson from Edge Auto is the current celebrated tuner on the ST. He, like Bill, also does some great corporate ST videos.
Should also mention that brakes and suspension are fine stock. It's good to upgrade the rear to a larger rotor ("Frankenbrake" as it's called) but not required. Suspension is also great but torque gusset, rear strut tower, and sway bar upgrades and endlinks can really help put the power to the ground.
Lastly, upgrading the RMM is critical in ensuring the BOV on your cold side charge (if you choose that side) doesn't smack into the A/C compressor or pop off due to engine movement. CP-E's stage 2 is the best for a daily driver.
Is there a similar turbo that makes the same power and boost for a 2013 Ford Fusion 1.6l ecoboost that you guys just installed in that focus st? I wanna upgrade my Fusion with a bigger turbo
The Fiesta ST kit from ATP should work on the 1.6L as it's the same engine.
is it just me or does that vacuum port nut on the cold side sit REALLY close to the oil pan?
Was there a corresponding dyno/vehicle running video like he mentioned in the beginning?
Yeah, it totally does and it SUCKS. Requires that the RMM be swapped at a minimum to ensure the knock sensors aren't triggered by the thing banging into the compressor.
@@orangejjay fast forward 2 years...i have the cPE exhale kit with the HKS bov..it was also super tight. Ill be installing the BNR71 turbo sitting in my garage soon, hopefully its worth it XD
Maybe it's just me but I don't do zipties on any build, I'd build a custom bracket before zip tying anything to the break line
How much whp did it end up making?
Does a turbo upgrade like this require any upgrades to the engine internals? E.g. forged pistons/ con rods, beefier head gasket and cylinder head bolts, or cylinder liners?
No, but if you want to really max out the power your fuel system is next, hpfp, lpfp, aux fuel, then eventually internals if you want to be making anything upwards of probably 475-500+ hp.
Very good, do I have to forge the engine to withstand so much power?
After 450 whp is when you got to
So you install a big turbo and a cobbs stage 3 package with stock turbo on the focus. Which one do you feel is faster? I want to go fast but don't know which way to go? Either go with cobbs stage 3 or go the route of a bigger turbo.
Lucky Phothirath bigger turbo if you wanna go passed 300whp cause you only gain about 50hp with a stage 3 package which really isn’t all that worth it, big turbo fo the win!
With a bigger turbo, you need to be stage three already to maximize the benefits of the turbo. Stock intake and downpipe are too small to maintain efficiency of the turbo and the stock intercooler is a joke.
Either go stage three first or do them all at the same time but not the other way around (big turbo and then stage three).
I own this turbo and it's nice however the cap on the top of the inlet manifold is questionable its is critical that you have no exhaust leaks on the focus st because it pulls alot of info in the wideband o2 sensors just something I noticed was crappy design...
There's an upgraded unit being sold on the Focus ST forums (Junits elbow) that solves this exact issue. You can use the gasket from the previous turbo to help protect the block. Without it, you are correct: Problems WILL present themselves in the form of a cracked block thanks to that fire ring rubbing against the super heated, soft aluminum.
Watched the video like 5 times before doing the install myself... couldn't get this damn music out of my head the entire time.
Also, I noticed you didn't include the removal/installation of that coolant hose. Was this due to the F-bombs being dropped? I'm guessing it is.
We did shoot that but somehow lost it in editing, from what I remember you may be right though.
@@cjponyparts I was cursing enough to make the neighbors nervous, lol. Very helpful video btw, I appreciate you guys taking the time to do it.
Getting the wipers off is not nearly as easy as you guys make it seem
Any update on what kinda power this car made?
ATP says 343hp and 337 torque vs 208 and 236 stock
Got a diagram for the vacuum lines ???
Can I use a Cobb accessport with this turbo kit or should I get a special ecu tune ?
We use a custom map from Stratified for our car.
Drilling into the couplers for the vaccum lines seems SUPER sketchy. Is there an alternative?
That's literally what you have to do. Drills are not sketchy, especially when it's flimsy material like silicone couplers. They hold up fine too though newer kits often have a metal ring that you slide into the coupler and use to fasten the fitting into which means you drill through that AND the coupler.
so this would definitely require an upgraded intercooler, custom tune for sure.
Damn those tiny cars are hard to work on.
Extremely easy actually
Yes they are a PITA. Turbo swaps are very long and painful. Same as my old 2010 Cobalt SS turbo, except that csr was 280 lbs lighter came with a Borg warner T04 turbo. Ran 5.6 sec to 60 and 13.9@102 mph stock. A stock SS sedan did 5.5 sec and 13.7@104 mph. Those sedans were still only 3000 lbs vs a base ST at 3200, ST2 is 3300, ST3 3370+/-35 lbs. The Foc ST with its T03 turbo needs a full Stg 3 to equal that old SS Cobalt stock. The SS's turbo was comparable to a GT 2660 Garrett. It could handle upto 350 whp. The stock fuel system was also limited to 360 whp or so. It was also the second vehicle in the US with DI. The Saturn Sky Redkine, Solstice GXP waa the first.
@@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq yea but a cobalt doesn't look as cool as a st, And no one rly buys a st for drag times, we buy them more for fun and handling
These tiny cars are easy as hell to work on. It's just that older cars had so much wasted space that they were even easier (and simpler) to work on.
And they had to be since they weren't reliable and required far more maintenance than cars of today.
Does this turbocharger already come with a blow off valve? I have a blow off valve on my original turbo charger for my ST. Can I juse the original block of I have on there??
You need an external bov for this turbo. The bov that works with the oem turbo is housed inside the oem turbo. This one doesn't have that option. You'll have to buy a bov, a flange for it that can be used with your charge pipe or one that has it already and hook it up to the Intake manifold via a vacuum source.
Hey for that banjo bolt for the coolant return line is that the exact same bolt as the stock banjo bolt
Not sure if it is but you don't want to re-use banjo bolts.
I have a focus 2.0L here in Brazil and we don't have these models "ST" and "RS" turbo ones... Can you show us or tell me if we could install a turbo in this engine and what kit turbo we must buy? Cheers and congratulations for this great channel
No, it would be faster and less expensive if you a) bought an ST here and imported it yourself b) bought all the parts needed to convert your car to an ST, it's been done here since Ford does not offer the ST model in sedan configuration.
But Mine it's not Sedan. It's hatch.
Doesn't matter from the firewall to the front bumper is the same. If you can find it, buy a Focus ST front clip in the States and ship it down to Brazil in a container. The swap has been done Google Red Devil Customs.
I wish all the nuts and bolts came out that easy..lmao
Haha yeah when the car is new it's alot easier.
so when i get this turbo I have to get bigger injectors? or just a tune?
There's almost never a need to upgrade injectors on the ST unless you're gunning for straight E85. Even then, running port injection via auxiliary fuel is better as it cleans the valves and helps reduce the risk of fuel starvation.
Stock fueling system is good for up to 350 HP which this turbo can do with ease.
A tune is required for any bigger turbo and you must flash a new baseline tune made for your specific setup prior to driving with the upgraded turbo (otherwise you'll see overboost troubles and run the risk of serious damage to your engine).
Ive got the .86 model. Stratified tuned w a cpe intake... car fucking FLIES
Can this turo upgrade be done on the RS also is it the same setup thx for the help:)
No need too, RS owners should be thinking EFR7163 or GTX3576 at MIN
Can I put a turbo kit on my 2014 Ford Focus se plz help me find the kit if I can
You can put a turbo on anything if you're dedicated enough but you're talking about at least $5000 and tbh you will probably blow the engine. Better off selling the car and upgrading to an ST. Itll be cheaper.
Do you know where I can get atp turbo for mks ecoboost
Most foc ST are around 204 to 224 whp. The ST is a bit slow and heavy.
*Drops to the ground, pointing at the wheels* What are THOSE?
Fiteen52 Tarmacs
I can't make out many of the words in some of these videos because of the music you guys have overlaid. You guys provide great information but I have to keep rewinding stuff to make sure I hear you correctly. If not eliminating the music would it be possible to just mute it during the spoken sections?
Hi can I buy this and you ship to Poland?
Any one able to find the dyno vid with the new turby??
Any upgrades to the stock engine to run this turbo?
None. Stock engine is good up to 440 HP but auxiliary fueling will be needed past 350.
Why does the kit not come with the boost lines from the boost controller thing??! I’m in this balls deep right now and I don’t have anything I need
What did you end up doing I’m in same position
@@lilmeatevan I bought them from vibrant performance
@@jacobMMotorsport I ended up finding a nipple for fuel tanks on rc airplanes and rc cars , works the same way as one from auto store !
How much is this set-up about?
Prolly the nastiest rims I’ve ever seen
So how much power can you make with this on stock fuel delivery ?
350 HP.
Stock fuel is good up to 350 HP on 93 octane. Engine is good up to 440 HP.
@@orangejjay and what's stock fuel delivery limited to on power if you're running E30.. and does that improve at all if you run a high pressure fuel pump with full e85 ?
Like what's the most you can squeeze without upgrading to aux
Hoping you'll say 400whp is possible
I'm trying to upgrade my 2016 Ford Fusion 1.5l ecoboost what do you recommend to deliver the highest power?
Upgraded turbo....
My Fusion is Pretty well known in the Wisconsin/FFC scene and, honestly, there isnt much to do with the 1.5. The 2.0 kinda shadows the smaller displacement trims and the 2.7 that just released is going to get a huge spotlight in the coming years.
The aftermarket is kinda slim as it is, but if you are willing to cough out the $$$, the custom market is always there.
Fusion guys are already spilling their loads over this new Sport. I am too being a previous owner of a FWD loaded Sport.
Rural Rider yeah the new sport is pretty wicked. I would wait a year or two for them to refine it before I even thought about buying one though. you know how Ford Canby with their first year new cars lol
Hey CJ, the GTX series has the new 11 blade impeller wheel, not ten, such as the unit shown here.
Is it worth buying over the ten blade?
the GTX design is 20 years ahead of the GT series. /pwn question
Michael Harris i know this is late but the 11 blade is for the bigger gtx29 and 30 series not the 28 series, they use the 10 blade oh except the 2871r that is 11 i believe.
Will it fit onto the fusion with the 2.0 ecoboost?
Yes but your transmission won't last very long without additional cooling.
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What size vacuum line did you use for the boost controller?
Been scrolling through the comments hoping someone asked and that someone else answered this.
@@orangejjay I think its 3/16 hose. With a 7/32 cap for up top
You guys live in a perfect world. Probably never seen a rusty bolt in your life
is there a turbo upgrade for the 2016 se?
No there isn't and why did you get a ST in the first place? You could have gotten a ST1 for about $20,000 and then you wouldn't be asking this question. The only option you have is to DIY or find a wrecked ST and swap everything over, it's been done, it's a lot of work.
Looking into a bigger turbo. Would .64 A/R or .87 A/R be better?
The .87 will spool slower but will yield more top end power. The .64 will spool faster but won't have as much top end.
With a 2.0L engine it is best you get .64 period. The turbos offered for this car only go up to about 500+ and even with a larger turbo like the GTX3071, GTX3076 or EFR7163, you'll get better spool because top end power + backpressure really isn't a problem at this power levels even if we're talking 450-500 whp.
what are some of the best supporting mods?
valve caps
If the new turbo comes with a built in blow off valve why do you need the one you install towards the end of the video?
That’s not a waste gate , it’s a blow off valve
@@robertosaenz4635 Sorry I misspoke. BOV Also thanks for ignoring the point. Why the second BOV and why no mention of it? Douche.
It comes with a built in waste gate, not a built in BOV. Two different things.
you really need to look your video over on the boost controller install you flipped the locations of charge and non charge hoses
Do you need a tune with this turbo upgrade?
Yes
I'm thinking to put the RS factory turbo to the ST! You think it'll you'll be a good idea??? Help
No and it won't work. Why do people like cutting corners? GT2860RS is under $1700 if you know where to look. Still too much get a Pumaspeed X37 which you have to have imported from the UK runs about $1,100 after exchange. Will do 320-330 on 93 pump. Will do 417hp/460 of torque with E40 and 35 hp shot of nitrous.
Does anyone have a link to the second channel he was talking about I cant find it
We took it down awhile back.
@@cjponyparts So what did this end up making? I was looking for the other channel to find out :(
Did you not pre oil the turbo before first startup?
How do you do that? Just crank the engine?
@@sategllib2191 yep crank without starting
Those rims are absolutely stunning on that Focus.