Thanks for all the support, we are having a blast doing these ST videos. There will be dyno numbers for this one and we will also be doing a catless downpipe video and dyno in the near future so make sure you subscribe!
Thanks allot for this video! Im actuall going to a shop this weekend and installing the COBB Intake and Downpipe and Flowmaster American Thunder Exhaust myself. Ill be reverting back to these videos probably the whole time but itll get done! Keep it up brother
Very helpful video. Only thing that would have been more helpful is if you would have said the sizes of the wrenches and sockets you were using as you were doing each particular step.
insta King_of_Ford no because it bolts onto the stock downpipe, but most aftermarket ones don't have a place to bolt it. Some do though like MBRP and CPE.
@@whatjake7898 lol yeah I'm sure that came in handy, I'm actually doing thr install right now and my big hands make every installation like this harder
Did you reinstall the brackets that needed to be taken off for the engine mount or can you leave them off? I did not see you put those brackets back on in the video.
I’ve actually have them off bc they didn’t wanna go back in while installing my motor mount and I have no issues so I think it would be fine but if you can put it back I would
I thought i saw on the website that this downpipe doesnt need a tune right away? So i shouldnt add this mod to my daily driver until im ready for a custom tune?
I had my Downpipe and Catback exhaust on my car for about 11 months now with no tune and no errors have popped up. My ST is my Daily Drive to work also.
It definitely won't void warranty because of the the Magnusson warranty act which protects those who choose to modify their cars, the dealer would have to prove that the aftermarket installation caused the problem but of course it's all risky because the dealer could give you a really hard time
This install was way worse on my 2018 than it looks in this video. Freakin v-band clamp was pretty much welded on the pipe. Had to bend and pry it off and the number of f-bombs used when trying to put it back on during the new install was definitely over 9000. One of the o2 sensors came out with several threads missing and basically turned to dust. Car has 6k miles on it. Seems like Ford just didn't care on the last year of the ST. Explains why they still haven't released a tune for it. Ended up going with Stratified and been very happy with them so far.
The opening exhaust sound. Is that a focus ST and if so whats the exhaust set up? Its the perfect sound im looking for. Just a bit louder. Basically just want a catted downpipe and retain factory exhaust. The mbrp i heard honestly was like the same as the factory so maybe a catted down pipe will get the sound I'm looking for
Bill Tumas I love watching your videos guys! I would have loved if youtube was around in 2000 and you guys made some videos adding performance parts to the very rare and awesome SVT Contour that I owned from 2000-2004. It was only a few tenths quicker than the Focus SVT when it was bone stock, but it looked and sounded great. It drove and handled just like my buddies E46 330i sedan that he bought in 2002. His 330i was a sport model with a manual transmission so he was able to walk my SVT on the straights, but I had no problem staying with him around the turns... That was such a fun car to own. To this day I've only seen 5 or 6 other SVT Contours on the road. Mine was Silver Frost with Blue Leather interior. It's a shame they only made them from 1998-2000 though. Anyway, thanks for all the great videos! Keep up the good work! Oh I almost forgot... I believe I am already subscribed, but if I'm not, I will sub after this comment.
So will it hurt the car if I dont have the V3 Accessport from Cobb yet? In the video you said itll run rich and ill need to adjust the maps for the new downpipe.
I would suggest a tune when running a downpipe. I have no data from running one untuned but it will surely run rich and running too rich for an extended time can cause damage just like running lean. It very well might be perfectly ok but I do not have any data to back that up
Yousuf Zuberi I went back and forth on my thoughts on that to be honest. My first inclination was lean but they I thought about the fact that the sensors should pick up that the cat is not working properly and usually the computer then dumps fuel.There was a noticeable amount of black smoke when this was first installed.
Many of products will fit the 13-15. The only one I know is different are the oil separators. As we get products and cars to test we will update our parts listings.
Lol home on jack stands I have a shop and it took me awhile the hardest part is the 02 sensors there next to each other the first one is clipped on. I had to clip it off than push it together and remove... remember it's white the second one is a lot easier to unclip it's gray... Other than taking forever to unclip the first 02 sensor it went fairly well. I don't recommend doing it on jack stands cause that damn turbo flange is a bitch to get on taking it off was easy.But if you have no other Options than sad to say but good luck 😂
I struggled with that for nearly an hour, I just disconnected the upper 02 (which is the one your talking about being the hardest) from the OE downpipe and let it hang. I put up the Cobb DP and connected the upper 02, then the lower 02, bolted up, it was all down hill from there.
I’m almost getting like a “grinding” feeling in my clutch after the downpipe install. I only feel it in first gear when at low rpms. I don’t feel it every time though? Any thoughts?
I know im 6 months behind on a reply but 2 things i dealt with after installing a downpipe on my focus was hangers hitting the subframe and catback hitting the cross brace. I loosened my downpipe and tightened the catback before tightening vband and i also cut the hangers a tiny bit
hey so I am buying an st at the moment but it is throwing a code for the bank one sensor! It has to be sent to ford to get fixed. my question is does the oem downpipe fit on the cobb exhaust?
I cannot for the life of me get the v clamp onto the new downpipe it seems like the screw with a hammer like tip on it just doesnt fit into the position you guys had it before starting. I tried putting it on before and after and i can only get it into that position with the clamp almost fully sealed. I cant put it onto the turbo is really the issue.... help pleaseeeeeee
I have the Flowmaster American thunder, and it was too drony down the highway at 70. An hour commute it's just plain obnoxious, and I have the sound symposer delete. I'd like to mate a downpipe with the Mountune catback I'm installing this weekend. Looks to be an fairly reasonable installation.
I would recommend a video more intense like making the st a all wheel drive. It would be a great project to see and it would be helpful to learn more ...... By the way I like your videos !! Thank you
Cobb if your near a location, otherwise remote/email = JST, Stratified, Mountune USA, FSWerks, Steeda, Freaktune, Nishan, Boost Creep, Tune +, Panda, Unleashed Tuning.
+Michael Harris First off, I went to the cobb website and the escape is not listed on there. Second off, the reason I ask is because the Focus and the Escape are built on the same platform. And finally, they booth have the 2.0 Ecoboost as an engine option. p.s. I went to the website before asking the question.
How Urgent it is to get it tuned? there isn't a whole lot of people who tune cars here, running rich isn't going to kill it as bad as running lean that's for sure, but I guess she wouldn't get all the power she could have
+littlemimus The offroad catless pipe will make a little more power with a custom tune but bot much. The catless will perform better with a larger turbo and is a must if running any sort of higher octane fuel.
Just installed a downpipe on my st. By far the worst install Of a car part I’ve ever done. So if you are going to do this, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
I'm new to the Cobb v3 Access port. What kind of map will we want to upload to the computer after installing the downpipe? Or does that depend on what kind of performance we're looking to get? I watched the Cobb v3 video and understand the Stage 1,2,3 maps, but do we need to re-upload a map after downpipe installation?
By law the dealer would have to prove the aftermarket part caused the failure. Check with your dealer before making any modifications if you are worried about the warranty
Unleashed Tuning, Freek Tune, Nishan, Stratified, Steeda, Dead Hook, JST Performance, FS Werks, Mountune. I think I am missing somebody but really GOOGLE it.
Only recommend Cobb if you close to one of their tuning locations, OTS tunes aren't that great. Ford's tune is conservative and not tuned for a down pipe.
The ST can be run on regular gas but it will pull power to do so. The rated HP of the ST is on 93 octane. We did a video before and after on the dyno and it does lose power on 87. The Mustang and ST are two very different cars so it's tough to recommend one over the other.Drive both and pick the one you like best.
i sold my 2014 v6 mustang for a 2015 st, never looked back. the st is a way better performance car. yes it is slower stock vs stock but handles so much better the even the rx8 i had with tons of suspension upgrades.
This flow master catback definitely has an annoying ricer sound to it with this downpipe. I'd rather keep my cbe stock than listen to this horrible sound. Cobb's catback sounds MUCH better than this with a downpipe!
100% Agree i have the COBB Catback and COBB Downpipe sound sooo much better then this video and installation took me 45 mins for the whole exhaust super easy.
Thanks for all the support, we are having a blast doing these ST videos. There will be dyno numbers for this one and we will also be doing a catless downpipe video and dyno in the near future so make sure you subscribe!
Thank you guys for posting this video! It helped tremendously in swapping out my downpipe. Keep up the great videos, Bill Tumas is the BEST!
Bill Tumas is the BEST ... thanks bro for your support
Bill Tumas, I really appreciate all these vids you guys are doing! Great explanation and walkthrough for installation of the parts. Great work!
60fps looked like my monitor was possessed or something. Kool!
Thanks allot for this video! Im actuall going to a shop this weekend and installing the COBB Intake and Downpipe and Flowmaster American Thunder Exhaust myself. Ill be reverting back to these videos probably the whole time but itll get done! Keep it up brother
Heading out to the garage right now, thanks for the video 👍
Have fun!
I love this sound! Love my Flowmaster! Can't wait to get this! Next on my list!
Great instal videos! Keep it up!!! Hopefully you will do an intercooler install soon.
We have one here and will be doing the install in the very near future
Wow! That’s very aggressive! You made it look easy
Very helpful video. Only thing that would have been more helpful is if you would have said the sizes of the wrenches and sockets you were using as you were doing each particular step.
sweet cant wait to get mine , hopefully you guys have a black friday sale again this year
I didn't see you put back together the bracket that was on the over engine mount does that not go back on???
insta King_of_Ford no because it bolts onto the stock downpipe, but most aftermarket ones don't have a place to bolt it. Some do though like MBRP and CPE.
Great video but I wish you would have went into more detail on unclipping those O2 sensor clips. Literally took the longest of the entire install.
I had the same issue unfortunately
@@TDincorparation if it wasn’t for my wife’s long ass fingers It would have taken even longer.
@@whatjake7898 lol yeah I'm sure that came in handy, I'm actually doing thr install right now and my big hands make every installation like this harder
Do you need a heat shield?
The oem has one
Would a tune straight from the Cobb access port to the trick after the installation ?
Did you reinstall the brackets that needed to be taken off for the engine mount or can you leave them off? I did not see you put those brackets back on in the video.
I’ve actually have them off bc they didn’t wanna go back in while installing my motor mount and I have no issues so I think it would be fine but if you can put it back I would
Im so sad they discontinued this. Was looking to get one.
Dyno vid please
really reminds me of my old nsrt4
did you not reinstall the mounting bracket at 3:35? is this not necessary ?
I removed the bolt on my v band clamp but it is completely stuck on there :/ any tips?
What kind of exhaust is it? Out law flow master?
I thought i saw on the website that this downpipe doesnt need a tune right away? So i shouldnt add this mod to my daily driver until im ready for a custom tune?
xzeroxskater101 I was wondering the same...
xzeroxskater101 it will need a tune you'll throw a code after 50 miles with this installed
I had my Downpipe and Catback exhaust on my car for about 11 months now with no tune and no errors have popped up. My ST is my Daily Drive to work also.
This is a stupid question but what exactly is that weaved section of the downpipe? Whats the purpose of it?
Chris Alcala Flex pipe since the engine moves
Bill Tumas Of course! Thanks. So would a downpipe without that section be bad? I have a 08 Mazdaspeed3 and I'm currently looking at some.
great vid tho what was the power increase numbers??
Do I need to tune the ecu after this upgrade?
You do not have to but you should consider a tune.
Having a really hard time disconnecting these oxygen sensor plugs. Any advice?
There really is no trick to it. They are tough to reach but once you find them they are not that hard to disconnect.
Will an aftermarket catted downpipe void the factory warranty?
It definitely won't void warranty because of the the Magnusson warranty act which protects those who choose to modify their cars, the dealer would have to prove that the aftermarket installation caused the problem but of course it's all risky because the dealer could give you a really hard time
I read on some thread that they can get these to fit the 1.5 escape???
How make the updates on the computer? Please can you said something about it
Good video as usual.
I installed a catless downpipe and had no difference in sound or performance. Can anyone explain?
Definitely want this if I get a st. Man the hype is real I just can't decide, a new fiesta st or a used focus st?
Did you get a Focus ST?
Is this doable with the car on jack stands?
Question answered in the last seconds of the vid, my bad
Does the installation of downpipe needs to be programmed on the computer
My car is stok
This install was way worse on my 2018 than it looks in this video. Freakin v-band clamp was pretty much welded on the pipe. Had to bend and pry it off and the number of f-bombs used when trying to put it back on during the new install was definitely over 9000. One of the o2 sensors came out with several threads missing and basically turned to dust. Car has 6k miles on it. Seems like Ford just didn't care on the last year of the ST. Explains why they still haven't released a tune for it. Ended up going with Stratified and been very happy with them so far.
The opening exhaust sound. Is that a focus ST and if so whats the exhaust set up? Its the perfect sound im looking for. Just a bit louder. Basically just want a catted downpipe and retain factory exhaust. The mbrp i heard honestly was like the same as the factory so maybe a catted down pipe will get the sound I'm looking for
HI I have a 2014 ford focus st . My question will the cobb3 down pipe pass mass. inspection
What is that thing on downpipe, which looks like a net or a basket, and why nearly every car has that?
Thanks for answer
It's a flex pipe section so the engine can move without the pipe getting damaged or damaging the turbo.
so the bracket you removed for the stock downpipe, by the motor mount, stays off?
Correct it is not used with the Cobb downpipe.
Thanks Bill! Love your videos! You guys are great!
Are you guys ever going to work on a Fiesta ST?
We don't have access to one at this time but you never know.
Bill Tumas Lets just say our Focus ST might have a little brother soon
Bill Tumas
I love watching your videos guys! I would have loved if youtube was around in 2000 and you guys made some videos adding performance parts to the very rare and awesome SVT Contour that I owned from 2000-2004. It was only a few tenths quicker than the Focus SVT when it was bone stock, but it looked and sounded great. It drove and handled just like my buddies E46 330i sedan that he bought in 2002. His 330i was a sport model with a manual transmission so he was able to walk my SVT on the straights, but I had no problem staying with him around the turns... That was such a fun car to own. To this day I've only seen 5 or 6 other SVT Contours on the road. Mine was Silver Frost with Blue Leather interior. It's a shame they only made them from 1998-2000 though. Anyway, thanks for all the great videos! Keep up the good work!
Oh I almost forgot... I believe I am already subscribed, but if I'm not, I will sub after this comment.
So will it hurt the car if I dont have the V3 Accessport from Cobb yet? In the video you said itll run rich and ill need to adjust the maps for the new downpipe.
I would suggest a tune when running a downpipe. I have no data from running one untuned but it will surely run rich and running too rich for an extended time can cause damage just like running lean. It very well might be perfectly ok but I do not have any data to back that up
ok, thanks again
Bill Tumas It'll actually run lean, due to more air. I think thats what you meant anyway
Yousuf Zuberi I went back and forth on my thoughts on that to be honest. My first inclination was lean but they I thought about the fact that the sensors should pick up that the cat is not working properly and usually the computer then dumps fuel.There was a noticeable amount of black smoke when this was first installed.
Bill Tumas Hmm I see what you're saying, that makes sense also
Are the STs the same up to 2015? Would COBBs ST products fit this year? I'm looking into the ST and would like to up the performance on it.
Many of products will fit the 13-15. The only one I know is different are the oil separators. As we get products and cars to test we will update our parts listings.
Bill Tumas the cai for 13-14 doesn't fit learned the hard way
T Honzo We just found that out last week when we got a 15 here. Some will but anything that replaces the pipe where the sensor is will not
Bill Tumas is there anyway I can make this work on the 15 I machined a part to make it fit but it leaks
Bill Tumas can I cap that part off of the piping?
No cel ?
Can I just download stage 2 91 oct after doing this install? Or do I need a custom tune?
Is this focus having a Custom exhaust? Because I wanna hear it with a stock exhaust
Are both the o2 sensors usually able to be removed without messing up the threads on them?
Does the downpipe make more of a difference for the turbo then the catback exhaust
can you get an ecu tuner from your website as well? Haven't check unfortunately
You can get the whole kit from COBB it comes with Engine mount, Intake, exhaust, Inter-cooler,and the tuning pod.
cant u just use the off the shelf maps from the accessport to get a proper tune?
Does this trigger the CEL?
Lol home on jack stands I have a shop and it took me awhile the hardest part is the 02 sensors there next to each other the first one is clipped on. I had to clip it off than push it together and remove... remember it's white the second one is a lot easier to unclip it's gray... Other than taking forever to unclip the first 02 sensor it went fairly well. I don't recommend doing it on jack stands cause that damn turbo flange is a bitch to get on taking it off was easy.But if you have no other Options than sad to say but good luck 😂
I struggled with that for nearly an hour, I just disconnected the upper 02 (which is the one your talking about being the hardest) from the OE downpipe and let it hang. I put up the Cobb DP and connected the upper 02, then the lower 02, bolted up, it was all down hill from there.
Do you just need the downpipe to run a stage 3 tune?
I’m almost getting like a “grinding” feeling in my clutch after the downpipe install. I only feel it in first gear when at low rpms. I don’t feel it every time though? Any thoughts?
That’s odd
I know im 6 months behind on a reply but 2 things i dealt with after installing a downpipe on my focus was hangers hitting the subframe and catback hitting the cross brace. I loosened my downpipe and tightened the catback before tightening vband and i also cut the hangers a tiny bit
hey so I am buying an st at the moment but it is throwing a code for the bank one sensor! It has to be sent to ford to get fixed. my question is does the oem downpipe fit on the cobb exhaust?
Jeff Francis yes it comes with a flange that can be used for on exhaust
Beavey sweet thanks. turns out that ford said the cat is bad so they are replacing it. so I gotta wait another week to get my car
I cannot for the life of me get the v clamp onto the new downpipe it seems like the screw with a hammer like tip on it just doesnt fit into the position you guys had it before starting. I tried putting it on before and after and i can only get it into that position with the clamp almost fully sealed. I cant put it onto the turbo is really the issue.... help pleaseeeeeee
What is that substance he added to the O2 sensor before he put it back?
anti-seize
I have the Flowmaster American thunder, and it was too drony down the highway at 70. An hour commute it's just plain obnoxious, and I have the sound symposer delete. I'd like to mate a downpipe with the Mountune catback I'm installing this weekend. Looks to be an fairly reasonable installation.
Do any on the Cobb maps work?
Did you put it on the dyno?
Do you reinstall the downpipe bracket?
Car is going on the mustan dyno at PSI Speed Solutions tomorrow. It will be given a custom tune by the owner Frank
Dyno info can be found on post #7 on the build page. www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st-builds/16393-jbailey1187-s-ow-st3-build.html
can't get the bando off the turbo -downpipe, only thing holding it on any tips?
I would recommend a video more intense like making the st a all wheel drive. It would be a great project to see and it would be helpful to learn more ...... By the way I like your videos !!
Thank you
that plug at down pipe working for?
Can I run a Cobb Off the shelf stage 2 tune with the Downpipe or stage 3? Both 93 octane from the accessport
What tune and where can you get it for the downpipe ??
Cobb if your near a location, otherwise remote/email = JST, Stratified, Mountune USA, FSWerks, Steeda, Freaktune, Nishan, Boost Creep, Tune +, Panda, Unleashed Tuning.
Would this also fit on the 2013 Escape Titanium 2.0L Ecoboost?
Use some intelligence and go to the COBB website and check, duh.
+Michael Harris First off, I went to the cobb website and the escape is not listed on there. Second off, the reason I ask is because the Focus and the Escape are built on the same platform. And finally, they booth have the 2.0 Ecoboost as an engine option. p.s. I went to the website before asking the question.
Is this posible in a car without turbo?
Nope, downpipe is on turbo cars only.
Good 👍 ASS job Brudda ✌.
Cool video awesome car,sorry not feeling the exhaust,sounds like a soda can.
Adrian B Lol I thought the same thing. LMAO!
Adrian B it sounds better with the full system not just one or the other.
How Urgent it is to get it tuned? there isn't a whole lot of people who tune cars here, running rich isn't going to kill it as bad as running lean that's for sure, but I guess she wouldn't get all the power she could have
How's the interior drone?
+Johnny CincoCero None at all with the catted pipe.
+littlemimus The offroad catless pipe will make a little more power with a custom tune but bot much. The catless will perform better with a larger turbo and is a must if running any sort of higher octane fuel.
Just installed a downpipe on my st. By far the worst install Of a car part I’ve ever done. So if you are going to do this, don’t say I didn’t warn you.
I noticed in the vid he didn't put back on the 2 piece bracket, does that not need to go back on with the new downpipe?
@@its_mysterion I'm sure it does since the new downpipe has legs that fit into it.
I'm new to the Cobb v3 Access port. What kind of map will we want to upload to the computer after installing the downpipe? Or does that depend on what kind of performance we're looking to get? I watched the Cobb v3 video and understand the Stage 1,2,3 maps, but do we need to re-upload a map after downpipe installation?
what access port tune would you use with this down pipe?
schembrilllllll
I been trying to find the answer to this for weeks . please let me know if you found out.
That shit sounds awesome :D
Does this void Ford's warranty?
By law the dealer would have to prove the aftermarket part caused the failure. Check with your dealer before making any modifications if you are worried about the warranty
where can you get it tuned at
Unleashed Tuning, Freek Tune, Nishan, Stratified, Steeda, Dead Hook, JST Performance, FS Werks, Mountune. I think I am missing somebody but really GOOGLE it.
Cobb, Ford Racing even has a tuner..
Only recommend Cobb if you close to one of their tuning locations, OTS tunes aren't that great. Ford's tune is conservative and not tuned for a down pipe.
Does anyone know what's the torque spec for the v-band connection (turbo and the downpipe)?
Just feel it out, pretty much how ever tight you can get it without breaking it
Hi CJ, are 24" jack stands going to give me enough room to properly get this job done?
Yes that should give you plenty of room.
Would this pass emissions?
Depends on the state you live in, it retains the catalytic converter so it's legal for PA.
The wheel hop marks lmao
bonjour comment peut on commender pour une ford st line de 2017 merci
Dyno video please
Bill had so many voice cracks back then lmao
sir.. before you install downpipe!! do you install hearders or not??
Headers? I am guessing you mean the turbo manifold which you wouldn't change unless you changed the turbo as well.
le puse un downpipe i me salio la mis de chek engine?? why
Llevalo a que te lo agan tune en computadora
Hi sir what would you recommend/prefer between 2013 mustang v6 and ST., also can you really run ST on regular gas? thank you very much!
The ST can be run on regular gas but it will pull power to do so. The rated HP of the ST is on 93 octane. We did a video before and after on the dyno and it does lose power on 87. The Mustang and ST are two very different cars so it's tough to recommend one over the other.Drive both and pick the one you like best.
i sold my 2014 v6 mustang for a 2015 st, never looked back. the st is a way better performance car. yes it is slower stock vs stock but handles so much better the even the rx8 i had with tons of suspension upgrades.
Will this fit a 2016 Ford Focus SE?
For ppl trying install this parts it’s not a 7/8 it’s 22m
Indeed dyno please!
Literally no help. Sure it's nice to know which bolts come off, but you know what's really important? Telling us what sizes they are....
Do not try this without a lift !!!!!
This flow master catback definitely has an annoying ricer sound to it with this downpipe. I'd rather keep my cbe stock than listen to this horrible sound. Cobb's catback sounds MUCH better than this with a downpipe!
100% Agree i have the COBB Catback and COBB Downpipe sound sooo much better then this video and installation took me 45 mins for the whole exhaust super easy.
That sounds Horrible
michael smioth I blame it on the flowmaster. The mountune turbo back exhaust sounds awesome.
I have a MBRP Cat back, can I still install this dowmpipe, or do I have to get the MBRP version since that's my exhaust?
Adair Aguilar you could install any downpipe... they should all be the same dimensions.