Arthur was dying and still beat the fuck out of Micah. It was nice to see how pathetic Micah was. If it were not for Dutch stepping on his hand, he'd have shot Micah.
Ok? That seems like a childish point to make in a story like this. Arthur was also an unstoppable killing machine who’s basically a mass murderer at this point. Wether he would or wouldn’t have beaten Micah in a fight is kinda moot at that point lmao.
Along with that, he doesn't get angry because Micah's nothing but a small, worthless nobody whose only value to John comes from seeing his flesh torn with bullets. The literal rat (in winter conditions mind you) walking out of Micah's shack symbolizes him. John knows it's no use stooping to his level
To be fair, "Whatever you say" it's a catchphrase in general for John. He uses it quite a few times both in RDR1 and RDR2 when he stops being a jerk. I love this aspect of his character. It shows that's he got the resolve to focus on his tasks without letting the opponents get to his head by taunting him and that's grown as a man after being all fiery and angry all the time.
@@Jow2002 He realized Arthur was telling the truth all along about Micah and his own crazy plans; he only believed Micah because he kept telling Dutch what he wanted to hear in order to manipulate him for his own ends. In the end after Dutch had all the money he could want from the train robbery but no family to share it with. Dutch may have realized just what all this had cost him couldn't bare the fact he left Arthur (the man whom he considered a son and perhaps one of the few who genuinely cared about Dutch as a person rather than a leader) to die alone on that mountain believing he was a traitor and so decided to at least avenge himself on the man who led him to his awful actions.
@@flyingrancidm00nfish7 sometimes your enemies will lie to you in order to stab you in the back, while the ones who care for you would tell you the truth to the eye no matter how harsh it is.
I guess Dutch ego is so colossal he couldn’t even talk to John about his regrets , so he kills Micah as a form of apology - admitting to his wrong doings
Micah Voice actor is really talented he can make you hate the character in a very high level. Btw his voice as Dr. Fontaine in La. noire was different. Impressing
Say my Name didn’t know that! That’s cool! Did anyone else pick up some LA Noire soundtrack vibes while playing the game? I heard some similar sounding stems.
Chris Salazar yes i noticed that. For example like the one in the cinematic when Arthur was going back to camp after beating Thomas Downes . It sounded like the one in the investigations
@Zain844 I wished it was, but it's not. jacks is smaller, made different, dosent have the black leather collar, dosent have the wear and tear, and its not the same color.
Such an epic mission but it’s what directly led to John’s death as well, since Ross investigated it. Pinkertons were always looking for him but finding the shootout in the mountains was their smoking gun. Arthur always said “Revenge is a fools game”(Dutch used to tell him that)and you hear that a lot throughout Red Dead 2. It’s one of the moral's of the story, to me. It’s one of the leading causes to Dutch’s downfall when he instead should have moved on. Unable to swallow his pride and focus on what the gang needed to do(even though they were always a means to an end). You see a similar thing happen to Eagle Flies. Brave and angry but vengeful for his people. Despite the tribe obviously not standing a chance against the Army, he couldnt help himself and it got him killed. Vengeance takes place all throughout this story, it seems. Arthur told John to keep on running and to never look back, no matter what. He wanted him to forget it and move on, else he'd probably end up like the rest of the gang. Understandably, John couldn’t help himself and he couldn’t let it go. Felt as if he owed it to Arthur for saving him and his family. He went back and avenged his brother, which(although it's for noble and sympathetic purposes and he's ridding the world of a terrible human being)is what lead to his downfall in the end. All of the events of red dead 1 is a result of John loving and avenging Arthur. It adds so much more weight to the first game. But honestly, I would have done the same as John. Micah had it coming. The writing in this game is absolutely amazing. It's filled with all of these subtle nuances that really respect the player's intelligence. The ending is bitter sweet but it's still nice to know that John and his family got a few peaceful years in Beecher's Hope, as a result of Arthur's sacrifice.
It's a never ending cycle even after Johns death there is revenge as his son Jack set out to kill Edgar Ross. Btw love the foreshadowing rdr 2 had with Edgar Ross having a grudge against Jack as a boy. Telling him enjoy it while it lasts Kid! Boy does that bite him in the ass later.
How did John killing Micah lead to rdr1? That was only because Edgar Ross wanted to get rid of the whereabouts of the remaining members of the Van der Linde Gang, so he basically forced John to do it and did him dirty in the end. Micah’s death seems kind of unrelated
Everyone was in love with John In the first game. Had doubts about Arthur as a main character when we first got introduced to him in the first trailer. Everyone quickly loved Arthur and didn’t like how John was as a character in red dead redemption 2 early on. Then this mission happened and it reminded EVERYONE why they loved John. This is the John we all grew to love.
Rockstar has some incredible writers at their studio to make a newcomer a main character who unanimously became quickly beloved by fans. It makes me hopeful for Jason & Lucia in GTA VI. I just know that Rockstar is going to do some fantastic work with those two. As they always do with their characters.
@@alguem292 As far as i remember, Charles was in the camp with the rest of the gang. Dutch, Micah and Arthur are all together looking for supplies and they found Sadie held by the O'driscolls.
@@Vrtuned And Micah died like a coward. Even hiding behind a woman. Like I know Sadie is not one to be messed with, but still. He was a dog until the end and couldn’t even die like a man
But getting his revenge here cost him and Jack's future happiness since this lead to the Pinkertons coming after him which caused the events of RDR1 and Jack also becoming an outlaw which is what his parents and Arthur worked so hard to prevent making their sacrificing go to waste. If John put aside his need for revenge and just walked away, he and his family would have had a happy ending
@@trethomas7406 But in this case, the Redemption ends up meaningless. Arthur's redemption from a life of crime is to try and give John, Abagail and Jack a way out so at least they get a good life. John's redemption from a life of crime was to just be a good father and husband. John wasted his redemption by pursuing revenge which in turn wasted Arthur's.
I like that even at this point, Micah still seems to hold some level of begrudging respect for Arthur. He always admired Arthur's strength, as well as envied him for it. When Arthur got sick, Micah knew he had to sow a lot of mistrust in order to turn Dutch against him, and depending on the story, Micah either can't bring himself to finally finish Arthur, or he kills him only after being almost killed by Arthur himself. And now, after John mentions Arthur, Micah doesn't insult him or John, but angrily says that he's been dead for a long time, and that his time is gone. Like despite how they became enemies, Micah will always respect strength, even in an enemy, especially one that saved his own life and was always a better gunslinger.
Micah is a shit weasel turd burglar. What a shame they don't give you the option to cut him into little pieces with a tomahawk and then feed the bits to bear 🤣
@@theonewhoisfluff745putting down people for analyzing a scene in a game where the storytelling is told off of conversations and interactions between humans I.E. a fucking conversation. You’re not something else, you’re nothing. Go twiddle your thumbs on cod mobile
Dutch shooting Micah was almost like Darth Vader picking up The Emperor in Return of the Jedi and dropping him down the reactor. Except there was no redemption for Dutch in the end.
"hello son" thats what im gonna say to my son who im going to abandon at a young age and show up at his wedding two decades later and say "i just need money"
Man , hearing Dutch tell John that he ain’t got much to say anymore , it hits home man .. Dutch is a very likeable character for most of the game, until Micah started manipulating things.. Dutch knew how he done Arthur was wrong , you could tell the way he looked on that hillside .. Rip Arthur Morgan . A good man .
Dutch isn't a pure psychopath, he built the gang through strong leadership and a had a code he stood by, however as his leadership crumbled he started to descend into madness and the worst of Dutch came out! Micah on the other hand is a real piece of shit!
it really hits home given how Dutch always likes to talk especially making such grandiose and poetic speeches. To have him unable to say anything shows how broken he became.
As much of a liar and cheat as Dutch is he was badass in this scene. He comes out the cabin with two revolvers, shoots Micah and then leaves barely saying a word. I’m not sure if he did it to avenge Arthur or because Micah was a rat playing both sides but either way he was pretty cool in the end.
The fact that we never got a Charles DLC is such a shame, what a deep and enigmatic character he was, I always felt like he was in pain and never stopped mourning the loss of his people.
Same. I shot him six times in the chest. Revolver shots hurt. I wanted Micah to feel it before he died. I think I recall shooting him in the lungs as well. I bet Arthur was watching down saying “how’s it feel to be the black-lung?” Arthur would then have a good laugh.
You can be shot pretty much anywhere vital (even the heart) and the body may be in shock or disconnect enough for you to be able to do an action or two before dropping dead.
An army buddy of my mine took a 7.62 round below his right eye and turned around and chuckled for a second, grabbed his rifle and fell over dead. You would be surprised what kind of reactions happen when shot in the face
I know it's late and all, but I just love it how before he dies, he looks around for a bit to see where he should fall, and since there was nowhere else for him to go but just snow and mountainous terrain, he just shrugs and drops dead on the floor.
This sequence reminded me of that time John was in mexico looking for Javier, and how everytime he would get in a shooting he would sometimes scream: "John Marston, remember mi nombre!" Loved that. What a badass he was
I believe that Dutch just entered Micahs Camp a few hours before John turns up, (because Micah said something about many unexpected visitors this day) just to wait for an good opportunity to kill Micah and not that Micah and Dutch worked together for years until now
@@FA_Machina yet Dutch was cornered by John again after he wakes up, Face it, John was A TANK tho for Taking that Shot from Dutch and already skilled than Dutch at that point
This is why the pinkerstons found john's farm at the beacher's hope. Like arthur said "revenge is a fool game" and john made himself easily tracked by the pinkerstons.. No more peaceful life for u john.. Thats what happen in RDR1
Young Edge they could find this guys body in the fucking middle of nowhere on a snow mountain . But not john and his big lonely ass house near blackwater ?
no i dont think it was because of micah, it was because he bought the ranch with his real name. back then they really couldnt get any clues of who killed micah, unless they saw John do that
I love how Micah is full of bullets, and he just shrugs and turns around and walks away before dying. Even in death, he mocked them. He basically said "That tickled, but oh well". In a way, Micah got the last laugh
We all hate micah, even the voice actor. Such a reprehensible character, but don’t let that distract you from the fact he’s actually a skilled gunslinger and very dangerous. A rat, but still dangerous
Imo it’s more of a “Fuck this shit, that ain’t fair” kinda moment. Like dying in a game (far less extreme example) sometimes I don’t necessarily rage but just shrug frustrated. Again it’s Micah so it’s super unclear what tf he’s doing at all times and ofc he is just messed up.
Legit one of my favorite moments in all of gaming. When that music starts to swell and we see the John Marston we all know and love kicking ass. God what a great game.
TheArrow17 The agents tracked Marston through his farm in Beecher's Hope. They tracked John the same reason Pinkerton tracked Arthur, because they were criminals.
GOAT they found him at the farm AFTER the events of killing Micah. John lied low the last 8 years and tried to live peacefull, when with Arthur the whole gang was active and fucked up and left alot of mess that was easy to track. After hearing Micah was found, John wanted revenge and killed Micah and his gang. Leaving a lot of mess for the agents to track it back to Johns Farm.
At the end The corrupted officer Ross died like a dog and Jack got his revenge & Became a Writer and wrote the story of his father and Uncle and became a hit and we see that cause the book is in GTA V
Anyone notice (at about 5:36) a rat runs by the cabin, just before you confront Micah, symbolizing he was the rat all along. Saw this in my play through and came to RUclips to see if it runs by for everyone, and clearly does. Haven't seen anyone else talking about it
In the beginning of the game, John was always getting into trouble. Always needing Arthur’s help. 8 years later, this is when he grown up into the redeemed, yet even more deadly badass we saw him as later in the first game.
Shut up clam down about tou2 man god it a game people want to kill the actor of Abby and I like Abby more anyways and send death thearts to the actor of abby
@@freddyfazbear1276 yeah it's messed up, but I do really hate the creator for using abby to fuck up an already great story. To be honest, she wasn't ever really there to be a character, she was just a device to spread propaganda.
This game has everything. From environmental graphics that will blow your mind and make you cry, to a story line that connects you so much to a certain character that you feel you are him. I felt like Arthur Morgen for all of the hours I played this game. I felt like John Marston when I climbed that mountain to finish off Micah. This game is perfect because of that aspect. It's beautiful.
Yo i actually did not know you got different bullet holes in the cutscene. I initially got the headshot ending but thought it was scripted because the bullet hole i got was directly through his eye. Which made it even cooler because ya know DEAD EYE. And apparently that you have to willingly do that to him rather then just shoot him directly in the face.
@@KingGesuramichah has evidently lost weight and depending which ending you choose, an eye aswell so he’s malnourished, tired and situationally blindsided. John is likely fed and has shot multiple people on his way up giving him a warmup. I always thought the only other 2 characters in the game with dead eye are Dutch and Micah, so people forget when he shot 3 grays in quick succession in Rhodes.
Kinda pissed Dutch was the one that shot Micah first and how John thanks him in the end, the fact that hes still been running with Micah after all these years (even tho he walks away from micha and arthur in my ending) shows Dutch is a snake
mike Dutch was there to kill micah from the start based on when John asked Dutch what he was doing here. Dutch replies with "same as you I suppose." this means that probably after the time of Arthur's death pretty much Dutch's "son" he felt some guilt and loneliness for awhile and decided to lead Micah on into believing that he was going to work with him.
Robert Phillips I don't see why not, If John Marston could lay waste to micah gang then I'm pretty sure Dutch could, Dutch taught Arthur and John everything they know.
@Robert Phillips he had to be all nice and such, and when it came to it I'm sure he would have killed him and not cared about the consequences cause he was already lost by then.
10:07 "You shot me." I'd imagine in his head he was pretty fucking surprised. Hell, he was probably thinking right before he died "HE FINALLY GOT IT! HE FIGURED IT OUT."
Holy shit this cleansed my palate. This is how you properly execute a confrontation that has been building up a majority of the game. This scene and the ending of TLOU2 are not even comparable. Imagine John just telling Micah to scamper off after killing many people to reach him. Yeah, it’s no contest. This is how a sequel to a beloved game should be executed. The writers for TLOU2 must have been crack or something during that ending.
10:21 When I beat this mission today that scene right there threw me off as I was wondering to myself "How is Micah able to walk so causally after I shot him like 15 times in the face" and that made me think "Ok maybe I didn't shoot him enough times" and then the moment he raised both of his hands up and is like "Oh well" and flops over and died and I was like "Lol wow really"
One thing has always puzzled me about this mission. How did Sadie sneak up on Micah at the end? There was only one way in to this unless she scaled to cliff with a knife injury?
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Tbh the only reason Micah won against Arthur is because he was sick and it was making him weaker
Arthur was dying and still beat the fuck out of Micah. It was nice to see how pathetic Micah was. If it were not for Dutch stepping on his hand, he'd have shot Micah.
If you did the good ending, Arthur would've actually won the fight if Dutch didn't step on his hand. He grabbed the revolver.
I chose the bad ending, cause I thought we will split the money to John and his family. I got stabbed twice.
Ok? That seems like a childish point to make in a story like this. Arthur was also an unstoppable killing machine who’s basically a mass murderer at this point. Wether he would or wouldn’t have beaten Micah in a fight is kinda moot at that point lmao.
Chase B did you miss Arthur’s character development or somethin
This is the John Marston from RDR 1, the legend of the West, last of the gunslingers and Arthur’s brother
Deadpool yes but he’s better in the first red dead
@@legendofstamfordbridge377 No he isn't
@@supahstarwarrior6942 yes he is, especially since the game revolved around him
Supahstar Warrior stfu u didn’t even play the first red dead
@@legendofstamfordbridge377 Uuuuhm yes I did
I am glad nobody buried Micah but left him to rot like that...
Rest In Peace Arthur
Burn In Hell Micah
Actually he didn't rot, if you go back there after killing him his body is still there frozen. You can take his revolver.
If they’d have buried him, Ross wouldn’t know John was around.
You can also toss a flaming bottle on him for good measure. Even the wolves didn't wanna touch that shit.
@@xhuntarianx who would want his greasy ass guns?
@@unclebuns5286 they are the fastest double action revolvers in the game and they look awesome why wouldn't u want them
I love how John doesn't get angry when Micah threatens Abigail and Jack because he knows there's no way he'll live to act on it
Yea
Along with that, he doesn't get angry because Micah's nothing but a small, worthless nobody whose only value to John comes from seeing his flesh torn with bullets. The literal rat (in winter conditions mind you) walking out of Micah's shack symbolizes him. John knows it's no use stooping to his level
To be fair, "Whatever you say" it's a catchphrase in general for John. He uses it quite a few times both in RDR1 and RDR2 when he stops being a jerk.
I love this aspect of his character. It shows that's he got the resolve to focus on his tasks without letting the opponents get to his head by taunting him and that's grown as a man after being all fiery and angry all the time.
The final standoff.
John - the good,
Dutch - the bad,
Micah - the ugly.
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@Dixie Crusader 🏳️🌈⃠ based name
...Dutch Is way more ugly his soul is black 😅
What's bad honor arthur then
@@assassinofvenice8430 Good'nt
"What are you doing here, dutch"
"Same as you, I suppose "
Despite dutch being crazy and disliking john...he was there to kill micah too.
Because he was a traitor?
@@Jow2002 He realized Arthur was telling the truth all along about Micah and his own crazy plans; he only believed Micah because he kept telling Dutch what he wanted to hear in order to manipulate him for his own ends. In the end after Dutch had all the money he could want from the train robbery but no family to share it with. Dutch may have realized just what all this had cost him couldn't bare the fact he left Arthur (the man whom he considered a son and perhaps one of the few who genuinely cared about Dutch as a person rather than a leader) to die alone on that mountain believing he was a traitor and so decided to at least avenge himself on the man who led him to his awful actions.
@@flyingrancidm00nfish7 sometimes your enemies will lie to you in order to stab you in the back, while the ones who care for you would tell you the truth to the eye no matter how harsh it is.
@@williamconto6977 exactly, explains Arthur and Micah perfectly
I guess Dutch ego is so colossal he couldn’t even talk to John about his regrets , so he kills Micah as a form of apology - admitting to his wrong doings
Micah Voice actor is really talented he can make you hate the character in a very high level. Btw his voice as Dr. Fontaine in La. noire was different. Impressing
Say my Name didn’t know that! That’s cool! Did anyone else pick up some LA Noire soundtrack vibes while playing the game? I heard some similar sounding stems.
Chris Salazar yes i noticed that. For example like the one in the cinematic when Arthur was going back to camp after beating Thomas Downes . It sounded like the one in the investigations
Say my Name yes!! I thought I was the only one
Say my name, what you said say my name!
If an actor makes you hate his character he did a great job!
"What are you doing here, Dutch?"
"Same as you, I suppose."
Dutch intended to kill Micah.
We know
Actually, he said “I suppose” which means Dutch thought John was there to join Micah.
@Ephy Redd o h
@@Jesus-hk2xf that don't make sense
It’s weird on how if you shoot micah before the cutscene dutch shoots you
John: Dutch say something
Dutch: I have a plan
F A I T H
@@tonislav3807 and noise, lots and lots, of noise
Tahiti!
O N E M O R E S C O R E
B U Y M E M O R E T I M E
That laugh Micah does after Dutch shoots him is pretty much saying “You FINALLY figured it out that I’m the bad guy lmao”
That bastard was also like "had to happen that i die."
That was micah, That's why he suddenly appeared behind John
5:35 a rat scurries in front of the cabin where Micah is staying. Funny little thing they added.
Crotalus atrox
I shot it as soon as I saw it.
I thought that was Micah xD
@@Coronado_G wow, u got me by suprise
It’s Micah’s pet rat
Arthur is a wolf/deer. Micah is a rat metaphorically and symbolically.
One of the things I loved most about this ending is that you're wearing Arthur's hat. It's like John wore it as a tribute.
TheOdd101 Too bad this dipshit didnt put back on
dayum son lol Arthur was but a concept during that time. Would have been sick though
In the first red dead jack wears john's hat as he kills ross
i wore a different outfit but i died and when i repspawned i had arthur’s hat on and it made me happy
@Zain844 I wished it was, but it's not. jacks is smaller, made different, dosent have the black leather collar, dosent have the wear and tear, and its not the same color.
Such an epic mission but it’s what directly led to John’s death as well, since Ross investigated it. Pinkertons were always looking for him but finding the shootout in the mountains was their smoking gun. Arthur always said “Revenge is a fools game”(Dutch used to tell him that)and you hear that a lot throughout Red Dead 2. It’s one of the moral's of the story, to me. It’s one of the leading causes to Dutch’s downfall when he instead should have moved on. Unable to swallow his pride and focus on what the gang needed to do(even though they were always a means to an end). You see a similar thing happen to Eagle Flies. Brave and angry but vengeful for his people. Despite the tribe obviously not standing a chance against the Army, he couldnt help himself and it got him killed. Vengeance takes place all throughout this story, it seems.
Arthur told John to keep on running and to never look back, no matter what. He wanted him to forget it and move on, else he'd probably end up like the rest of the gang. Understandably, John couldn’t help himself and he couldn’t let it go. Felt as if he owed it to Arthur for saving him and his family. He went back and avenged his brother, which(although it's for noble and sympathetic purposes and he's ridding the world of a terrible human being)is what lead to his downfall in the end. All of the events of red dead 1 is a result of John loving and avenging Arthur. It adds so much more weight to the first game. But honestly, I would have done the same as John. Micah had it coming. The writing in this game is absolutely amazing. It's filled with all of these subtle nuances that really respect the player's intelligence. The ending is bitter sweet but it's still nice to know that John and his family got a few peaceful years in Beecher's Hope, as a result of Arthur's sacrifice.
@@pimpchimpin6785 Thats cute i unloaded all my bullets right through his balls
It's a never ending cycle even after Johns death there is revenge as his son Jack set out to kill Edgar Ross. Btw love the foreshadowing rdr 2 had with Edgar Ross having a grudge against Jack as a boy. Telling him enjoy it while it lasts Kid! Boy does that bite him in the ass later.
How did John killing Micah lead to rdr1? That was only because Edgar Ross wanted to get rid of the whereabouts of the remaining members of the Van der Linde Gang, so he basically forced John to do it and did him dirty in the end. Micah’s death seems kind of unrelated
17carramirez it is I just hate the tragic ending though 😭
Ross sees that after killing Micah John would be willing to kill his old gang members and thinks “yea I can use him”
Everyone was in love with John In the first game. Had doubts about Arthur as a main character when we first got introduced to him in the first trailer. Everyone quickly loved Arthur and didn’t like how John was as a character in red dead redemption 2 early on. Then this mission happened and it reminded EVERYONE why they loved John. This is the John we all grew to love.
Yup- fantastic character development
Definitely! Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Nah they punked John on purpose in this game to make Arthur seem cooler it's a totally different character to the one from the first game
Rockstar has some incredible writers at their studio to make a newcomer a main character who unanimously became quickly beloved by fans. It makes me hopeful for Jason & Lucia in GTA VI. I just know that Rockstar is going to do some fantastic work with those two. As they always do with their characters.
i mean it makes sense considering it's a prequel @@arky1790
I just realized that RDR2 begins in the cold with Arthur, Dutch, and Micah. It ends in the cold with John, Dutch, and Micah.
You forgot Sadie
@@kimbaldun oh yes very true
And charles
@@alguem292 As far as i remember, Charles was in the camp with the rest of the gang. Dutch, Micah and Arthur are all together looking for supplies and they found Sadie held by the O'driscolls.
“Revenge Is a Fool’s game”
- Arthur Morgan
hell nah if I was john i’d do the exact same thing
@@the_boiasd7970 And that got John killed, eventually.
@@mistameff3528 worth it he went out like a real man
@@Vrtuned And Micah died like a coward. Even hiding behind a woman. Like I know Sadie is not one to be messed with, but still.
He was a dog until the end and couldn’t even die like a man
5:36 I love how that rat came out of nowhere before Micah appears. Well played rockstar👏🏻
I shoot it, thought it's micah
@@EnderVerseMC you cant blame yourself tho
@@EnderVerseMC same I shot it like 1 time with a double barrel shotgun
Imagine not being able to swim
This post was made by the Arthur Morgan Gang.
imagine losing a fist fight to micah and dying because of a cough this post was made by john marston gang
milk imagine drawing like a toddler
this was posted by the Arthur Morgan Gang.
@@posstaldude imagine going back for the Blackwater money, and not getting it. This post was made by the Jim Milton gang
CloroxBleachTM
Imagine dying to an army of suitmen
This post was made by the “Totally didn’t die by an undercover pinkerton” gang.
This thread is gold
The fact that Micah was able to walk after being shot 4 times in the head is shocking. That was one of the most terrifying things in rdr2 for me.
rdr 2 undead Nightmare
Imo ppl underestimate how strong micah is
@@ilovebooty2253 it was adrenaline
@@inktheone5933 yea he tried to walk it off like nah bro
Pretty sure it was intended to be body shots because normally it'll take one bullet to the head to put you on your ass
Charles and Sadie were definitely the best parts of the epilogue. They were always loyal
Uncle enters the Chat with Lumbago
@@outlaw._.lazinesif it weren’t for uncle and his lumbago, John would still have that dog shit small house. “It just needs a woman’s touch”
10:27- Micah going down like, "Well, that's all folks."
"Guess I'll die.."
The tale of micah bell
Are you legally allowed to say that?
@@cakeistasty-yy38 Let's hope so.
Welp, that’s it I guess.
In this mission I wasn't playing as John Marston. I was John Marston
MOOD
Facts
But getting his revenge here cost him and Jack's future happiness since this lead to the Pinkertons coming after him which caused the events of RDR1 and Jack also becoming an outlaw which is what his parents and Arthur worked so hard to prevent making their sacrificing go to waste.
If John put aside his need for revenge and just walked away, he and his family would have had a happy ending
@@FraserSouris correct which is why the game is called red dead "redemption"
@@trethomas7406 But in this case, the Redemption ends up meaningless. Arthur's redemption from a life of crime is to try and give John, Abagail and Jack a way out so at least they get a good life. John's redemption from a life of crime was to just be a good father and husband. John wasted his redemption by pursuing revenge which in turn wasted Arthur's.
Honestly, I'm glad I had the Mauser for this. 10 rounds rapid to the chest was just so damn satisfying.
I feel like that isn't enough
johns revolver is the way to go
i prefer a nice ol fashioned revolver over these strange new fancy pants pistols, "a weapon from a more civilized time"
Nah Mauser is to quiet and feels weak volcanic is loud as hell and has 8 rounds overall it is your opinion though
@Cole Pratt Engravings... give no tactical advantage whatsoever.
I like that even at this point, Micah still seems to hold some level of begrudging respect for Arthur. He always admired Arthur's strength, as well as envied him for it. When Arthur got sick, Micah knew he had to sow a lot of mistrust in order to turn Dutch against him, and depending on the story, Micah either can't bring himself to finally finish Arthur, or he kills him only after being almost killed by Arthur himself.
And now, after John mentions Arthur, Micah doesn't insult him or John, but angrily says that he's been dead for a long time, and that his time is gone. Like despite how they became enemies, Micah will always respect strength, even in an enemy, especially one that saved his own life and was always a better gunslinger.
Micah is a shit weasel turd burglar.
What a shame they don't give you the option to cut him into little pieces with a tomahawk and then feed the bits to bear 🤣
overanalyzing mere seven words in a throwaway statement, you're really something mate.
@@theonewhoisfluff745 let people enjoy things mate
@@theonewhoisfluff745putting down people for analyzing a scene in a game where the storytelling is told off of conversations and interactions between humans I.E. a fucking conversation. You’re not something else, you’re nothing. Go twiddle your thumbs on cod mobile
@@theonewhoisfluff745get lost dumb bot
Dutch shooting Micah was almost like Darth Vader picking up The Emperor in Return of the Jedi and dropping him down the reactor. Except there was no redemption for Dutch in the end.
"hello son" thats what im gonna say to my son who im going to abandon at a young age and show up at his wedding two decades later and say "i just need money"
that’s awfully specific
taHiTi
I've got a plan you just got to trust me
Tell me you're black without telling me
@@AsentrixYT Damn.
I laughed but DAMN.
10:28 the little shrug he does before he flops into the snow hahahah
"Guess I'll die" *insert old man meme picture here*
"well, ok"
Your profile pic makes me feel like Arthur is laughing at Micah's death beyond the grave...hell yeah.
Welp shit guess ill just die then
“Ehhhh.... the hell with it”
The fact that John puts a bullet in Micah for Arthur makes me love him more.
If this game was by Naughty Dog, John would start crying and let Micah live.
no no you got it all wrong...
Micah would beat arthur with golf and you get to play as micah and fight john
There was actually a video on this called if RDR2 ended like TLOU 2
I'm very glad that didn't happen in this game
Musa khan no no you got it all wrong...
They would make you play as Micah instead of John and then make him seem like a good guy petting dogs.
>thinking that Abby is in the same level as Micah
Micah in the beggining: But when i fall I don't want no fuss
Lenny: When you die there be a party
John's wedding pases after Micah dies
@Mr Culec you should learn respect
Mr Culec chill the hell out
Ross and Archer also conducted a search "party" when they came across the aftermath in the credits
Rip lenny
@@bentleynishkiyama2191 but u got to agree with culec’s point
Man , hearing Dutch tell John that he ain’t got much to say anymore , it hits home man .. Dutch is a very likeable character for most of the game, until Micah started manipulating things.. Dutch knew how he done Arthur was wrong , you could tell the way he looked on that hillside .. Rip Arthur Morgan . A good man .
If you play the first RDR and meet Dutch, it's heartbreaking since he's completely lost his mind by that point and is damn near unrecognizable.
Dutch voice actor admitted to crying after leaving Arthur . So I believe Dutch cried when Arthur died. Burst into tears
Dutch isn't a pure psychopath, he built the gang through strong leadership and a had a code he stood by, however as his leadership crumbled he started to descend into madness and the worst of Dutch came out! Micah on the other hand is a real piece of shit!
it really hits home given how Dutch always likes to talk especially making such grandiose and poetic speeches. To have him unable to say anything shows how broken he became.
As much of a liar and cheat as Dutch is he was badass in this scene. He comes out the cabin with two revolvers, shoots Micah and then leaves barely saying a word. I’m not sure if he did it to avenge Arthur or because Micah was a rat playing both sides but either way he was pretty cool in the end.
I agree him holstering his revolvers is pretty dam badass ain't gonna lie.
Yep, he became a real dick but he has some sense.
He used the blackwater money to lure Micah out of hiding to “team up”
FUCK THAT!!!!
Dutch only did it to save himself
The fact that we never got a Charles DLC is such a shame, what a deep and enigmatic character he was, I always felt like he was in pain and never stopped mourning the loss of his people.
He is still a fucking killer like everyone in the gang. They are all piece of shit even those who had great intentions.
"When you're dead, there'll be a party."
- Lenny Summers to Micah Bell, 1899
The foreshadowing in this game is unmatched, I swear. That's one of the top 3 things that I love about it.
The song that plays is legendary. It really makes you feel like you're the hero and getting justified revenge.
A headshot was to quick and painless, I shot every single inch of Micah's body from feet to neck. I wanted him to feel every bullet i shot from my gun
Same. I shot him six times in the chest. Revolver shots hurt. I wanted Micah to feel it before he died. I think I recall shooting him in the lungs as well. I bet Arthur was watching down saying “how’s it feel to be the black-lung?” Arthur would then have a good laugh.
@Ignatius David Partogi lol
1:00 is when the Legend Of John Marston was born
Dude has a shot in His face and still walks around.
bruh nice pfp
You can be shot pretty much anywhere vital (even the heart) and the body may be in shock or disconnect enough for you to be able to do an action or two before dropping dead.
An army buddy of my mine took a 7.62 round below his right eye and turned around and chuckled for a second, grabbed his rifle and fell over dead. You would be surprised what kind of reactions happen when shot in the face
TexanHick01 sorry to hear that
Creeker
Jesus. I’m sorry man. That’s horrifying
I know it's late and all, but I just love it how before he dies, he looks around for a bit to see where he should fall, and since there was nowhere else for him to go but just snow and mountainous terrain, he just shrugs and drops dead on the floor.
I think that's called "dying"
May Micah's spirit wander forever within the absolute darkness and madness of the evil he embraced.
This sequence reminded me of that time John was in mexico looking for Javier, and how everytime he would get in a shooting he would sometimes scream: "John Marston, remember mi nombre!"
Loved that. What a badass he was
I believe that Dutch just entered Micahs Camp a few hours before John turns up, (because Micah said something about many unexpected visitors this day) just to wait for an good opportunity to kill Micah and not that Micah and Dutch worked together for years until now
I can't believe it took Dutch 8 years to finally realize Micah was the rat. Took you long enough, Dutch.
9:20 when micah said "arthur have been dead a long time", the looks of dutch...
I love how this mission is a huge homage to Red Dead 1. The level layout, the dialogue, the music, and we play as the legend himself, John Marston.
Apart from John getting his ass kicked by Micah, and needing to be saved by Sadie and Dutch
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u what are you talking about john gets his ass kicked every 5 minutes in that game
@@aceofhearts3063when dutch shot his binoculars and he was out cold😭😭😭
@@FA_Machina yet Dutch was cornered by John again after he wakes up, Face it, John was A TANK tho for Taking that Shot from Dutch and already skilled than Dutch at that point
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u getting his ass kicked?
10:18 says otherwise
This is why the pinkerstons found john's farm at the beacher's hope. Like arthur said "revenge is a fool game" and john made himself easily tracked by the pinkerstons.. No more peaceful life for u john.. Thats what happen in RDR1
Young Edge they could find this guys body in the fucking middle of nowhere on a snow mountain . But not john and his big lonely ass house near blackwater ?
@@Leg3ndKilla687 u can see it in the credits scene, pinkertons tracked him after he killed micah which is leaving a lot of mess.
Young Edge yeah I saw. But still. Lol. Maybe they were meeting with Micah and that’s how they knew where they are ? 🤷🏻♂️
Young Edge Do you know the song playing at 8:13 ????
no i dont think it was because of micah, it was because he bought the ranch with his real name.
back then they really couldnt get any clues of who killed micah, unless they saw John do that
I love when Dutch said that John shot at him. Then John reply’s “you started it”. Literally the same thing I was about to say before John said it
I love how Micah is full of bullets, and he just shrugs and turns around and walks away before dying. Even in death, he mocked them. He basically said "That tickled, but oh well". In a way, Micah got the last laugh
Dude is a psychopath. Almost nothing can make him afraid, even if the odds are against him.
@@jakandratchet9930 He is a coward but he isnt really shaken by things
We all hate micah, even the voice actor. Such a reprehensible character, but don’t let that distract you from the fact he’s actually a skilled gunslinger and very dangerous. A rat, but still dangerous
Micah is alpha male
Imo it’s more of a “Fuck this shit, that ain’t fair” kinda moment. Like dying in a game (far less extreme example) sometimes I don’t necessarily rage but just shrug frustrated. Again it’s Micah so it’s super unclear what tf he’s doing at all times and ofc he is just messed up.
10:21 Just love how Micah walks it off like "aight guess im dead"
Legit one of my favorite moments in all of gaming. When that music starts to swell and we see the John Marston we all know and love kicking ass. God what a great game.
You have to respect the fact that Micah survived for that long after getting shot six times in the face.
All Adrenaline.
I shot him twice in the balls and 4 in the head, trying to destroy his eyes and balls
@@NorthKoreaUncoveredyeah shock and blood loss can’t be stopped by adrenaline
@@Shadow_Wolf_190 No one said it can, hence why he died seconds after he was shot.
This is the last time in RDR we see the true Dutch. Saving his boy one last time.
Love the whole never ending cycle of revenge and how it leads to destruction theme this game has.
(Sadie bleeding to near death)
Sadie: hurry up i got a wedding i wanna go to
The scene of John confronting at 1:07 with the music playing is amazing
Micah: *gets shot in the head four times, somehow walking and taking a breath*
John: Gets shot way more times, looks at shooter for a solid 10 seconds
@@redwarrior118 more like 30 seconds
I think because of this, John got himself killed in RDR1.
The Arrow 17 why?
Daniel Harrison because the agents track marston trough this. Didnt you saw all the scenes from the credits?
TheArrow17 The agents tracked Marston through his farm in Beecher's Hope. They tracked John the same reason Pinkerton tracked Arthur, because they were criminals.
GOAT they found him at the farm AFTER the events of killing Micah. John lied low the last 8 years and tried to live peacefull, when with Arthur the whole gang was active and fucked up and left alot of mess that was easy to track. After hearing Micah was found, John wanted revenge and killed Micah and his gang. Leaving a lot of mess for the agents to track it back to Johns Farm.
At the end
The corrupted officer Ross died like a dog and Jack got his revenge & Became a Writer and wrote the story of his father and Uncle and became a hit and we see that cause the book is in GTA V
Anyone notice (at about 5:36) a rat runs by the cabin, just before you confront Micah, symbolizing he was the rat all along. Saw this in my play through and came to RUclips to see if it runs by for everyone, and clearly does. Haven't seen anyone else talking about it
Yup and I shot the damn rat too. Made me feel better
I dont think that was the purpose but whatever
Too bad it didn’t appear in my playthrough I even replayed that mission and a rat didn’t scurry
Aerial Attackz its scripted to always spawn or you got bad eyes mister
Lenny Summers I don’t really have bad eyes but it’s 100% not there in my playthrough so you can’t just say shit
1:19 John: "That was Joe!"
Idiot players: "Who's Jo-"
In the beginning of the game, John was always getting into trouble. Always needing Arthur’s help. 8 years later, this is when he grown up into the redeemed, yet even more deadly badass we saw him as later in the first game.
John in the first game talks about his younger self as if he was more deadly then his 1911 self
2:47 "it's John Marston Micah !"
TKillah60 offff you better run Micah
ITS JIM MILTON MICAH lol
@@danielhm648 yeah
Naughty dog needs to take tips from Sadie and Miss Grimshaw on how to create a strong female character
Naughty dog think strong female character must be mascular and gross ,they are fucking stupid and insulting real women
@Yharon is alone What makes a "Strong female character" is being well-written and strong because she needs to, not because she's a woman
@Yharon is alone so are yall sleeping on chloe frazer and nadine ross
Shut up clam down about tou2 man god it a game people want to kill the actor of Abby and I like Abby more anyways and send death thearts to the actor of abby
@@freddyfazbear1276 yeah it's messed up, but I do really hate the creator for using abby to fuck up an already great story. To be honest, she wasn't ever really there to be a character, she was just a device to spread propaganda.
This game has everything. From environmental graphics that will blow your mind and make you cry, to a story line that connects you so much to a certain character that you feel you are him. I felt like Arthur Morgen for all of the hours I played this game. I felt like John Marston when I climbed that mountain to finish off Micah. This game is perfect because of that aspect. It's beautiful.
You guys notice when John says "What're you doing here, Dutch?" Dutch says "Same as you, I suppose." So he pointed out that he would kill Micah.
Love that John puts on Arthur’s hat for this mission. I had planned to switch to it and was delighted when I noticed he was wearing it by default.
Music from rdr1 ;^(
The American Venom song that plays throughout this final level gives me shivers every time
Yo i actually did not know you got different bullet holes in the cutscene. I initially got the headshot ending but thought it was scripted because the bullet hole i got was directly through his eye. Which made it even cooler because ya know DEAD EYE. And apparently that you have to willingly do that to him rather then just shoot him directly in the face.
@ThatDamnScottishGuy just replay the mission
Damn what is somebody gets the high honnor with Arthur where you stab his left eye and then you shoot him in his right one? Damnnn
If*
High honnor ending*
Ghost Of Sparta High honor* ending
Micah: “After we’re done I’m gonna kill Marston too”
Also Micah: “I don’t want to kill you John”
“You shot me.... you shot me pretty good.” Famous last words
I love how John doesn’t punch as hard as he can just so he can punch one of Micah’s boys in the face like a million time
Micah: you shot me pretty good
Me: MY TURN
I like how John literally looks behind him to see Micah
he looked back
i came here to wash my eyes after that tlou 2 ending
6:26 the way Micah draws so quickly and the music gives me goosebumps every time. So American, so venomous.
The way none of those bullets hit john was kinda unserious
Scary to think that Micah might still be a better gunslinger than John.
@@Bestow3000 well he is basically, But John at that point has Deadeye which gives him advantage above Micah
@@KingGesuramichah has evidently lost weight and depending which ending you choose, an eye aswell so he’s malnourished, tired and situationally blindsided.
John is likely fed and has shot multiple people on his way up giving him a warmup.
I always thought the only other 2 characters in the game with dead eye are Dutch and Micah, so people forget when he shot 3 grays in quick succession in Rhodes.
@@Bestow3000bro he missed all the shots, how he’s a better gunslinger lol
This is the mission that makes people remember who John Marston was.
Until 6:28 when that all gets ruined
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u John with dead eye at 10:18
Kinda pissed Dutch was the one that shot Micah first and how John thanks him in the end, the fact that hes still been running with Micah after all these years (even tho he walks away from micha and arthur in my ending) shows Dutch is a snake
mike Dutch was there to kill micah from the start based on when John asked Dutch what he was doing here. Dutch replies with "same as you I suppose." this means that probably after the time of Arthur's death pretty much Dutch's "son" he felt some guilt and loneliness for awhile and decided to lead Micah on into believing that he was going to work with him.
@@Grim_Capone yeah i suppose but if thats true why didnt dutch kill him immediately? Why try to to lead him on or gain trust?
Robert Phillips I don't see why not, If John Marston could lay waste to micah gang then I'm pretty sure Dutch could, Dutch taught Arthur and John everything they know.
@Robert Phillips you gots to remember dutch is crazy as fuck
@Robert Phillips he had to be all nice and such, and when it came to it I'm sure he would have killed him and not cared about the consequences cause he was already lost by then.
The way Micah says “hellfire” at 7:05 cracks me up every time
Dutch can not say, "You betrayed me," when he betrayed John and Arthur.
Man. Peter blomquist really did an exceptional job of bringing this character to life.
You can go back to micah's corpse after the ending to get his black & red revolver..only one of em tho 😑
infaredd89 I don’t wanna touch anything belonging to that scum!
From what I heard it's the best revolver in the game.
@@JuanSolo9 I believe it is.
@@JuanSolo9 Its just a double action revolver, actually its stats are worse than a fully upgraded one.
@I Control My Fate red handle, black frame
0:21 my dude John destroyed that man
10:07
"You shot me."
I'd imagine in his head he was pretty fucking surprised. Hell, he was probably thinking right before he died
"HE FINALLY GOT IT! HE FIGURED IT OUT."
Arthur had a sad, dramatic, and emotional death scene, while Micah’s death was just pathetic
Anyone else here after TLOU2 and wanted to see a proper ending
Hell yea
Me..
Holy shit this cleansed my palate. This is how you properly execute a confrontation that has been building up a majority of the game. This scene and the ending of TLOU2 are not even comparable. Imagine John just telling Micah to scamper off after killing many people to reach him. Yeah, it’s no contest. This is how a sequel to a beloved game should be executed. The writers for TLOU2 must have been crack or something during that ending.
well if john didn’t kill micah he would’ve lived past the first one
@@yomommaNyadaddy Facts, why play that shitshow when you have RDR2
“I’ve seen you in action. At this range, you’d miss”
And he did, thanks Arthur
Anybody noticed the rat walking outside of Micah's cabin?
Yes and killed it too
That’s Micah twin brother
I had some corned Beef with tomatoes after this
I had Pearson's beef stew.
I had some assorted salted offals
I just ate some dominos.
8:12 best feeling in game history
* Starts theme *
John: IT'S JOHN MARSTON MICAH!
Me: CHILLS
10:21 When I beat this mission today that scene right there threw me off as I was wondering to myself "How is Micah able to walk so causally after I shot him like 15 times in the face" and that made me think "Ok maybe I didn't shoot him enough times" and then the moment he raised both of his hands up and is like "Oh well" and flops over and died and I was like "Lol wow really"
I love how Dutch has been consumed by his realization he made a mistake choosing Micahs side
10:29 Micah: "I'll just walk it off"
6:25 Micah’s supposed to be one of the best gunslingers in the gang, yet he misses every shot when johns 10 feet in front of him
Arthur always said that Micah had a bad shot when someone's close to him, i think that here he proves it...
Duel double action revolvers are real inaccurate
Idk why but I so freaking love when he say "It's John Marston, Micah"
Lol, love how after Micah is shot my Marston he walks and just goes: "Guess I'll die."
5:12 you gotta love that when that guard drops dead, the music picks up again.
One thing has always puzzled me about this mission. How did Sadie sneak up on Micah at the end? There was only one way in to this unless she scaled to cliff with a knife injury?
Everybody who done this mission multiple times (like me), here you go: 10:18
All I want is 100 subs, I’m not begging I’m asking
It started in the snowy mountains because of Micah, it ended in the snowy mountains for him too