@@SavageSlayerI feel more sorry for Javier but even understand he chose his own fath by remaining blind. Dutch treated Hosea and Arthur badly. They're supposed to be partners, but he certainly doesn't treat them like one. He didn't listen to them, he yelled at Hosea and Arthur when he's coughing or in pain, and he makes Hosea sleep on the cold, hard, dirty ground. He even openly ignores him in Colter just like with Arthur in Beaver Hollow, in front of the other men, and rides off when they tried to stop him from doing something-in Hosea's case robbing Cornwall's train, and Arthur when it came to going to save Abigail. I'm not saying they don't have a rich history or good moments, but the bad moment overshadows the good.
The only problem is it’s clearly shown that important characters from rdr2 and the gang wasn’t even a concept in rdr 1 even if we leave Arthur characters like Sadie, Charles, and even Micah cant just never been mentioned
For me its only Javier it feels like it was forced but for John and Dutch it’s completely understandable compared to there progression as characters in rdr2 especially John he’s mature and calm much like Arthur
When I first played it on xbox 360, I was like: “Why should I care about them? I don’t even know who they are” This year I am playing rdr2 for the first time, after this I got to replay the first one
I haven't played rdr1 yet, i played rdr2. I have a question... Javier didnt die after all, no? So he's the only one who is still alive if i am not wrong from these characters, no?
@@scottmurphy4278I imagine what's likely is that they tell the people they have killed him but they tortured him and then kill him around the same time as they killed John.
I’m pretty sure RDR2 story line wasn’t even a thing when they made RDR, and yet they were able to tie both games so perfectly
it was, there were a lot of references to arthur throughout rdr
@@ifcpyl12 Arthur didnt exist until 2, care to give few examples?
they knew they would make rdr2 long before they made rdr1
It can't be possible to tie game like this definitely they have a whole story before but they work more on rdr2 just because it have a good story ever
Dutch saying John 10:54 11:31 11:45 12:04 12:30 14:01 14:42 14:54 15:57 16:39 16:47 16:59 17:27 17:38 17:53 18:20 18:49
You forgot 17:55
@@LegosOnLegos ill add it
1738 aye
After the second game, their deaths hid different, knowing how close they were, almost like family
Agreed specially Dutch
This legendary story made by geniuses makes me depressed 😞 red dead depression 😢
@@SavageSlayerI feel more sorry for Javier but even understand he chose his own fath by remaining blind. Dutch treated Hosea and Arthur badly. They're supposed to be partners, but he certainly doesn't treat them like one. He didn't listen to them, he yelled at Hosea and Arthur when he's coughing or in pain, and he makes Hosea sleep on the cold, hard, dirty ground. He even openly ignores him in Colter just like with Arthur in Beaver Hollow, in front of the other men, and rides off when they tried to stop him from doing something-in Hosea's case robbing Cornwall's train, and Arthur when it came to going to save Abigail. I'm not saying they don't have a rich history or good moments, but the bad moment overshadows the good.
Replaying rdr2 and wanted to watch these again, Thanks for uploading!
Enjoy😊
Dutch just sounds crazy
After playing RDR2, maybe he always was.
0:46 "You were as my brother"
*literally 0 dialogues between each other in rdr2*
Nope they did have convos in rdr2
Nope, I guess you weren't around the camp much.
Wrong. Plenty of interactions if you actually play the game
They had a really cool drunken heart to heart at the end of chapter 2 party.
They have loads. Bill has a very cordial relationship with John.
15:45 always chuckled about his timing
18:48 Our time is passed, John.
2:47 Hey i've never noticed the little glimpses of "american venorm" in the background!!
It's the ambient music, you can hear it in free roam from time to time
Seems to be John's main theme to an extent
"lets go find somebody else we can annoy" At least they own it
damn didnt think they made impore such a huge moment in rdr2
The only problem is it’s clearly shown that important characters from rdr2 and the gang wasn’t even a concept in rdr 1 even if we leave Arthur characters like Sadie, Charles, and even Micah cant just never been mentioned
This version of Dutch, Javier or John is somehow completely different.......looks and feels different than the ones in RDR2.
For me its only Javier it feels like it was forced but for John and Dutch it’s completely understandable compared to there progression as characters in rdr2 especially John he’s mature and calm much like Arthur
John keeps talking how they left him to die, but doesn't bring up Aurthur once. Lol
I might be wrong but it just might be a thing where the idea of Arthur Morgan didn’t exist since this came out before rdr2
@fernandonavarro2789 I know. It's just funny how pivotal of a character Arthur is in 2, only for him to (seemingly) be forgotten in 1.
@@josh_miester_x511 another theory is that john was so devastated by arthur's death that he pretend like arthur didn't even exist
You could take the "You have forgotten a lot more important people than me" line from the Strange Man as a reference to Arthur.
@@RyanTheDark oh, I forgot about him. Ironically enough.
When I first played it on xbox 360, I was like: “Why should I care about them? I don’t even know who they are”
This year I am playing rdr2 for the first time, after this I got to replay the first one
In the 2nd game they betrayed John in the first place and they choose to listen to micha and it’s their own fault
Oh, if only Lenny was at Beaver Hollow. I'm unsure if Sean would have sided with Arthur since he was very loyal to Dutch.
After rdr 2, playing rdr feels….different….
Agreed 😥😞👌
Bill is talking like John was higher level in the gang weird they didn’t care about that
I just have rdr2 does john kill them for Arthur ??
Yeah and for betraying him
He only goes after them because the government kidnapped his family and forced him to. He doesn’t care about revenge he just wants his family back
Arthur didn’t exist when rdr came out.
@@Lucasio99 in the story rdr2 is before rdr1 bro
@@GtaXkzyw I know but when rdr came out rockstar had not created Arthur yet
I like John in 1st game he was calm straight forward and cool
Rdr 1 needs a remake NOW
I haven't played rdr1 yet, i played rdr2.
I have a question... Javier didnt die after all, no?
So he's the only one who is still alive if i am not wrong from these characters, no?
If John brings in Javier alive, the government executes him afterwards.
@@scottmurphy4278 it would be cool to see Javier in rdr3 xdddd
@@scottmurphy4278I imagine what's likely is that they tell the people they have killed him but they tortured him and then kill him around the same time as they killed John.
W video
is that the switch version of the game?
No??????????????? I’m so confused why you think this.
Guess Henry the stickman wasn’t the only one FIRE IN THE HOLE 15:46
I wouldn’t know any better than to join dutches gang again