Is The 2023 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek Edition Any Good Off-Road? Watch How It Did On Our Course!
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2022
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In this video, Tommy and Kase take the 2023 Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek Edition off-road at Tumbleweed Ranch in Andre's Pit!
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The intelligent 4X4 on that vehicle is good. Nissan has done a great job of keeping up with the competition in that regard.
This is by far the best off road test video I've seen for the Pathfinder.
It's good to see that it's not hamstrung by a CVT. Good job Nissan!
Need to replace all there CVT stuff with the 9 speed.
Dear Nissan, stop playing around and revive the Xterra we all want.
Nissan is really stepping up in the last year or two. Im really happy to see it
It’s a step in the right direction taking the pathfinder back to its roots 👍
Have have those Open Country ATIII’s on my frontier. Couldn’t be happier. They perform well on and off road and are very quiet on the highway
I'm honestly surprised Nissan would bother to make this thing legitimately capable offroad (as crossovers/unibodies go). Good on them and good on you two for the great video! I've been watching for a few years now and the channel gets better and better all the time :)
Well every other company now has trim packages that involve such a thing, Subaru with their wilderness, the passport now has a package, even the GMC Acadia has an AT4 package, soft roaders are becoming quite popular. Also forgot the CX50 for the Mazda lineup
@@GamerNxUSN Subaru, Honda, gmc, Mazda. Yeah that's every other manufacturer that exists. Oh wait.
@@zallimp3 it's called hyperbole.
@@GamerNxUSNIm curious if the 2024 acadia will be capable of soft rough road trail considering its turbo....
Just bought one yesterday and love it!
Nice review guys! I like the buddy review approach, and Tommy and Case pair up well. Still seems like the Pathfinder's ground clearance is going to severely limit "offroading" to dirt/gravel fire roads, but it is worlds apart from that previous generation.
Feels like something that'd be really good with a small lift, just one or two inches max
if it was only rear wheel drive base ,true low range
@@Wolfsbane1100 Don't be fooled. It's a minivan, unibody, overweight, underpowered, mom car. I owned one. Got rid of it ASAP for a loss. Sure it has lots of room inside... But it's not a truck, and it's barely a SUV.
TfL they are kind of revealing themselves by backing a Chinese CCP owned company, the Nissan Pathfinders exclusively made by the CCP in China. Try looking it up on Wikipedia.
Thanks for the review! For a mild adventurer, this crossover SUV should definitely suffice.
Love it! Much improved
That front bumper looks like it would get ripped off in any more gnarly offroad terrain
Great job guys. The next generation of TFL will be in good hands.
One of the best reviews, i like practical testing nit just showing exterior and interior.
I just picked mine up last weekend, can not wait to put it to the test.
How the test go??
Have a base s model and I’m loving it! Coming from a ranger xlt I chose the new pathfinder for its truckish looks and all the tech you get standard.
How do you like the transmission? I've heard a few new Frontier owners say the transmission in those tends to do some gear hunting.
@@bradh6185probley caused by all the "new tech" lol.
I have a 22 Pro4x and love it. Thinking of picking one of these up in the same Baja Storm color for my wife. They have one at our local dealer
I do like these new Pathfinders...
Skid plates?
Don't really see the point of such a small lift upgrade tho.
I will see these at the Overland Expos! It will be interesting what aftermarket setups these can get.
No left foot braking is a big deal when trying to get the most out of a softroader. Solid review. It would have been good to see the way the other terrain modes handled a couple of obstacles.
Bout tyme Nissan did something to compete in the off road segment. It needs 2-3 more options 4 the pro 4x. Like nismo pro4x,etc
Great review! I didn't think I could like my Pathfinder much more. Nissan is so entertaining.
Please add some cross-ditches to your course! They're basically everywhere off-road I want to go up here in BC. And they require much more approach/departure testing than the more traction focused testing you do on this course.
Seconded! I do softroading in BC and even some of the better maintained roads have washouts and cross-ditches which you can't pass without adequate angles and ground clearance. Wish more RUclips off-road testing channels would include them in their tests seeing as how almost every trail I hit has some.
I third the motion. Cross ditches can be surprisingly tricky depending on your 4WD system.
I get where you are coming from, but if you analyze this/break it down in what is being tested, the off camber portion mimics a "cross-ditch" scenario because it throws wheels up so you are on 1 in the front and 1 in the rear. How much more can you expect from a traction system? Approach and departure angles are going to vary dramatically from where you go to where this is at. And you can already tell, that front nose is not going to be equivalent to a Rubicon. 😉
@@WW-wf8tu I am not asking for traction tests, I'm asking for demonstrations of approach, departure, and breakover. Many vehicles, especially ones that get tested on this easier course don't post those numbers, and even still it's not always easy to visualize how good each of them are. This would help.
In all my off-road driving with my 2wd Lancer I just replaced, I never stopped because I lacked traction. I stopped because I was gonna crunch my nose or bottom out on cross ditches or rock. So I am interested in seeing if what's being tested will get me the places I've not been able to go.
hi, such a big supporter🙌
2003 Pathy owner here for 15 years. The best car I've ever had. Has proper low range, never had a trouble with the clearance as well.
Best looking new four-door Pathfinder they have made and I liked the old two-door.
Love you guys both reviewing cars ... I wish you compare multiple trims too .
Very cool Tommy. Thanks.
Great looking vehicle and a great review!
I really think you guys should remove the weeds from the areas you guys are driving over. Hot cats can light dry grass up pretty easily. The Pathfinder though is pretty impressive for a CUV. Them switching back to a real automatic was certainly a big improvement over last gen.
David’s been in Alaska. I’m sure he’ll take care of it when he returns to the Ranch.
@@blueridge8992 what’s wrong with these young kids doing it?
For what it is, a more economical everyday user with a on occasional off road want, I believe Nissan did it right. Would of liked to see a true one pedal option for the tougher obstacle navigation but, looks very promising.
@7:12 love that section. TFL should use that for pretty much all tests if possible. Isn't Nissan did better than Toyota / Lexus video using 4wd tech low range & a-trac?
Something that I have consistently found with Nissan xterra's Pathfinders and Frontiers is they do have a rather consistent and useful digital differential. On my 2006 I have open gifts front and rear but I can take that truck absolutely anywhere with those digital differentials
It's called ABLS and it's very functional. Similar to Toyotas A-trac or Land Rovers famous traction control.
I didn't know what the actual name of it was LOL I just call it digital differentials
Nice video mate. Question, how do you change from 2WD to 4WD? or is it automatic, etc? Thanks!
Couple of questions, Price?, Does the Towing package have brake controller? Off road pages on the screen? Very light review:-(
Brake controllers cost about $100 and you don't see them on mid sized SUV's very often as OEM. I have an 2011 Pathfinder and I don't think any of those came with one stock. Even though I have a body on frame and towing package.
Do not expect that, You can read the spec sheet. This is more about off road feel for this version
Good looking vehicle and the added power sounds nice. But in my view they should have also lifted it at least an inch. Also sometimes I would like for you all to breakdown and better explain the roof racks weight limit. For example, I weigh over 200 pounds American. Does that mean I would be to heavy to sleep in a rooftop if one was put on that car? Maybe 200 pound worth of luggage could be hauled on it?
Usually the weight rating listing is the "dynamic" or moving load limit. A rooftop tent with you in it falls under the "static" or not moving limit which typically is much higher but often not listed.
The static limit is usually between 600 and 1000 depending on the roof rails. MY Jetta Sportswagen TDI can hold a tent, two adults and a dog.
They lift it an inch and rated MPG goes down then everyone would complain and cry.
Dare I say it.... I think it's better than a Subaru
No question about it. Subarus are neutered by their shitacular cvt.
I disagree. Its too big for its own good.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 CVTs are not ideal but id put any Subaru Wilderness edition against this on the trail. Its just too big. To counteract its size it needs a lift and 33 inch tires.
@@dirtycommtroop I’ve come around to agree with you. Owning a Subaru for the past year has made me a believer.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Nice. I'm digging the Crosstrek Wilderness myself. No other subcompact offroaders with that much value on the market.
Really digging in this new Rock Creek!! I do agree on the gloss black part tho because you're gonna be off roading with your family, kids, dogs, etc. And its gonna get all scratchy and dirty all the time. They should have offered the textured rubbery trim or the aluminum trim just like Hyundai Kia and Genesis did with most of their vehicles. And also.. my grandparents' 2019 Equinox has gotta have the loudest closing auto tailgate than that!!
It’s nice to see Nissan applying some common sense to the SUVs by finally getting rid of the CVT transmission. The looks are quite good with the Wheel and Tire package. I agree that it needs a rock crawl mode although it should also be about 2 inches higher with some under body protection, and additionally the front approach angle is something that a front bumper redesign could probably fix. I feel like they kinda missed an opportunity to put a 3.8L V6 that’s in the frontier into this SUV. I bet the decision to not raise it any higher was probably to not greatly affect the mpg rating. Why on earth would you put piano black in a “ruggedized”suv? I’m hoping that the next generation will follow what Ford did with this size suvs and make it rear drive bias by rotating the engine to the proper orientation.
it isn't rugged. The Pathfinder is still a glorified 4 door minivan. Nissan made it to compete with the Pilot and the Highlander. It used to compete against the 4Runner.
@@robertmisiuk7137 Yeah I forgot to put the “ “ around ruggedized. Fixed it.
@@robertmisiuk7137 I have a 4runner and a Rogue, I dont know where this fits in though thinking more Highlander series then a Pilot..I looked at these before I bought my Rogue didnt like it
Not bad but .6in lift, why not 1in? Make it a bit capable of what it is trying to present.
-The eater resistant material is a good touch, something I would expect in a TRD Pro
I would LOVE to bring my 2013 4x4 Armada and compare these. I am considering this vehicle as my next, but the lack of any diff locks or even a low range is disturbing to me. Might have sold me a 4 Runner.
Great looking vehicle!
Tommy, have you tried manually locking the ZF 9 speed in 1st gear (use your paddle shifters) ... you will the get about an 18:1 or 20:1 ratio due the extremely low 1st gear. Honda has it in their Truck Based vehicles (Pilot, Passport and Ridgeline). Have to put the trans in manual mode and then paddle down to 1st.
I guarantee he didn’t. Just like on the highway it’s only in 7th gear at highway speeds. You have to manual mode to get to 9th and get that really tall ratio for good mpg.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 it'll get into 9th gear around 70mph. Even if you put it in 9th, it wont stay if you're not going fast enough
@@Ram14250 I agree. videos that I’ve seen with the Pathfinder show it about 2000 rpm’s at 70mph. That would be 7th gear. 8th should be 1700 rpm’s, and 9th would be about 1400 rpm’s. One of my company leases is a Chrysler 200 with the 9speed. The gears and rpm’s are very similar at highway speeds.
It didn't seem to struggle at all. I would try some more difficult stuff with it. I wonder if it drives well enough on the highway to be a nice commuter.
The original Pathfinders went out of alignment all the time. You could literally look at the front end and it would go out of alignment. I owned almost every version 4WD and my wife has a non-4WD CVT. Just got the warranty extension for the CVT from Nissan which we have not had any issues with to date. But glad they moved to new transmission.
I love the piano black!!!
Does anyone remember the Aztec? This design for the 2023 Pathfinder remind me of that and I kinda like it.
As always, great video. I have questions. First - the badging says 4WD. Is it a true 4WD with high/low range and 2WD, or is it an AWD all the time? Second - how big are the tires? Looks like 18" rims and a decent amount of sidewall, so 31-32" tires? Can you go bigger? Third - how customizable is it? Can you easily put a lift and bigger tires on it? Can you add skid plates?
Thank you Nissan good job I glad that Nissan listen to people they want real transmission help real SUVs or Truck no more fake .
Ground clearance from factory can always be modified for people who are upset about it buy a lift and the open country tires by toyo are the best running them on my 2012 pathfinder
Nissan Pathfinder, my 3rd Nissan after Versa and Rogue Sport, I’m glad I can upgrade my car again. Unfortunately I can only afford SL FWD trim. I think this trim (rock creek) looks good.
Going to get this tire set up on my 22 SV. Now I have to see what they did with the suspension on this Rock Creek edition.
It’s just a small lift. From 7 to 7.7
You guys need to try opening the door when it’s totally flexed to see if the body is flexing ???
I got one of these couple months ago. Does anyone know from experience if an indicator light comes on when tire slip occurs and the intelligent 4x4 kicks in?
I know they have two warning lights about error and over heat, but can't find if a light let's me know if the system had to do its job to begin with.
Rock Creek is the best name they could come up with for this package?
More like Schitt Creek…
😆
It’s Nissan at least they’re almost trying.
@@etteyafed mmm indeed. It looks a lot like devolution being reversed:
They turned a body-on chassis 4x4 into a mum-mobile, and now they’re trying to make it capable again by adding computer controlled traction management 🤦🏼♂️
It's the name they used for the last gen Pathfinder. Not a new name
Finally a non Electric video from you guys. I really wish you could do a dedicated EV channel to separate them. Not everyone on your channel wants to see them... I don't
Would this be able to handle beach driving with just the intelligent AWD system, vice a standard 4WD with dedicated low end?
I know it says 4wd. So is the transmission considered a 4x4 or is it mainly an Awd transmission vehicle? Thank you
Can't wait for the new Colorado tomorrow!!!
I purchased a 2024 Rock Creek and had one major problem. That is that the passenger seat height is not adjustable at all. My wife is the primary driver, and she is 5 and 3, and even the driver's seat has to be set the highest, with extra cushioning. When she sits in the passenger seat she looks like a grade schooler. If the airbag inflated against a short passenger in this condition, will her face be safe?
Could Nissan provide taller seat rails?
Surprised to see so much hate for Nissan, they're doing a bang up job right now. Not surprised by the "It DoEsN't HaVe A lOw RaNgE, iT's A mAlL fInDeR" crowd. Anything that's not a Jeep on 37s doesn't count for them, but guess what, people off-road in Crosstreks. Meanwhile, I'm looking for something that I can put my daughter's car seat in and still drive a fun little trail now and then, even if its just the one to the spot where I unload my dirt bike. This amount of capability is top of the 3-row crossover segment for the price. The comparable Grand Cherokee L doesn't have a low range or skid plates either. Having said that, I wish this had the bigger screen and leather seats they put in the SL and Platinum trim for the previous year and would have announced pricing along with the release of test drive videos.
They have 9 bloody gears and 1st has a super low crawl ratio there is your low range super slow and super low crawling gear for the shopping mall parking lot curbs lol. Who takes $50,000+ vehicles off road anyway lol.
@@leanlifter1 Such an underrated comment and with manual mode, it should be easy to modulate at crawling speeds.
I see Nissan getting back into business fine with CVTS just put 9 spd autos on most of them even if they redesign a new Maxima add 9 spd auto than a CVT. The Pathfinder looks amazing not the "Soccer Mom Wagon" though did like the last generation this model is really impressive.
I agree this looks way better than the last model and glad they got rid of the CVT. Hopefully they get rid of the CVT in the Maxima or make it avail in manual
If that rear cubby was sealed and capable of being filled with ice, then it’d be interesting. Is it a CVT or 9 speed? CVTs don’t have speeds except by computer programming.
I like the look of the pathfinder rock creek edition
Tommy, what is the price? Height clearance? Thank you...
Pretty impressive for what it is. I will say that the side of the body at the door just looks like it has been in a wreck. You can see it at the 6:45 mark. Not too bad looking overall though. I like the openings at the front of the hood like the old Hardbody had.
Thanks!
You mentioned CVT overheating but this isn’t a CVT anymore
He just mentioned that it’s often an issue with cvt, in portion of the trail that often over heats cvt. Not that this unit had one..
The pathfinder sits 3 in the 3rd row so its a 7 seater and not an 8 seater instead with the caption chairs
I'd buy it for sure
These are so Cool.
A Pro4X edition would a low range and locking diff would be nice.
Nissan is back baby!💪😎
Been waiting for a video of a 22 Chey Tahoe Z71 at the Tumbleweed... Let's do it guys!
There was a time when the pathfinder had rear diff locks, proper low range and a stonking V8!
I love that they moved from a CVT to the ZF9HP. Thats the official transmission of decently capable off-road crossovers it seems. If what I find is correct, a 4.33 axle ration and a 4.7 1st gear nets a very impressive 20.4:1 crawl ratio. With the V6 that's actually going to do pretty well. A little lift and some bumper trimming and you would have all the overlander you would need for a LOT of terrain.
That's what I love about nissan, they get it right at a base level, and then the aftermarket takes it where they want. My Frontier has been a fun truck to get to know and craft into what I want. The new Z is a great example of that
That'a correct; the ZF 9HP empowers crossover vehicle a significantly-better crawl ratio than the prior era automatics offered.
@@josephina24 so far not much aftermarket lift options for pathfinder. Hopefully soon...
I like Rock Creek suspension, not skinny looking unlike some other SUV that I have seen and it has good a ground clearance with nothing sticking out and that's what I pay attention on the most
Would you choose this or the Subaru forest/outback wilderness?
The other unibody/independent suspension japanese offroad vehicle was Mitsubishi's Pajero/Montero...how does this vehicle compare to Mitsubishi. Now Pajero had low-speed transfer case and central differential lock and this vehicle does not, however the pajero was also a very old vehicle (last update 2006). Has in the last 15 years, technology evolved so much that a nine-speed gear and good TC equal to low-speed transfer case and central diff lock?
If the headrests are too poky at the top it means you have them set too low. Most people fail to adjust them to the correct height for themselves and either have them at Min height or Max (which looks stupid unless you are seriously tall in the torso).
As for firm - they looked soft when prodded.
Technically they aren’t a headrest so don’t need to be soft. They are to prevent whiplash not to rest your head on.
Ruggedised is the word you’re looking for.
Tommy! You had me at granola! Lol
needs just a touch more lift / bigger tires on it me thinks..but can always do that after the fact. Im still sporting the '15 Xterra Pro4 and ran across this rock creek trim and made me wonder...should I??
They shouldve kept the boxed shape it had before. It made it stand out a bit from other rounded SUVs
I just saw a video of the 2023 Rock Creek with a power liftgate, heated steering wheel and a navigation system. Is this now available?
Link?
@@NetSeChef It's only on the none-us models not sold in the USA. If you can find a video on a right-hand drive one you will see them.
I guess this is the closest we'll get to a Pathfinder Pro-4x... it would be nice to have skid plates too. I wonder how the Pathfinder would compare to a Subaru Ascent...?
Ascent is one of the worst vehicles made. My best friend worked for subaru for 7 years and finally quit because he didn't feel good selling people Ascents at mark up
With skid plates it would
Definitely tackle more stuff. I have been looking for aftermarket but no luck
It's probably great on a seasonally maintained gravel road.
1995(2nd Gen.) was the last best year. This one looks to be reasonable. But they still have a ways to go to come full circle. And the contradiction in materials is baffling to me as well. The model, (Pathfinder) is supposed to be family oriented, so some abrasive materials should be expected. And this trim(Rock Creek)should have even less piano black surfaces. Seeing as how it is expected to be even more off pavement oriented. Oh well. Still looks pretty good. 🙂
3rd Gen (‘05-12) with the 5.6L V8 are excellent vehicles. I’d call them hidden gems tbh. They’re just a Frontier chassis underneath with with the Titan’s V8. That 5.6L VK engine is great too. Aluminum block with iron sleeves, DOHC and VVT. Nissan even used it in their GT1, LMP3 and Australian Supercar Championship race cars up until 2019.
@@blueridge8992 mine just rolled over 250k. It was rock crawling at Red Lake in California two weeks ago. Today it's a few thousand miles away on a family road trip. All original drivetrain. It's no rock buggy but with a few key mods it's extremely capable and still very comfortable on the highway.
@@blueridge8992 Those V8 Pathfinder/Frontiers are so hard to find for sale. Also the rear independent suspension is known to have a weak differential.
Rock Creek edition should have Pro 4X package option. Higher ground clearance and better rear coiil springs. 265/70 R18 all terrain
Add another 1.5 inches of ground clearance, better rear coil springs, and a 2 speed transfer case and Nissan would sell EVERY single one they could produce.
You need to use Premium fuel to get that additional 11hp and 11lbs of torque. Definitely would add lift kit and underbody protection for Overlanding
I really wish you guys would drop the tire pressure to 20 to 25 psi on all tests. It's such a bit difference maker.
not bad .. for the price, needs a true low range , if it was only rear wheel drive base . I'll go look at it. see how the new transmission is
Can the cross bars be removed from the roof carriage?
Are you folks gonna revisit the Bronco Sport Badlands?
Can you get it without third row seating for more cargo space
The seats drop
I like the rugged look, I'm ready to trade in the honda pilot I was forced to keep 2 years ago.
what's the ground clearance? didn't mention it
Is that roof rack load 220 pounds static or dynamic? TIA
dynamic always
The Ad on this video is CRAZY!
Looks great! low.. but great