i just got my wife the rock creek. my wife and i will only drive national park double track roads than can be tricky but not past the level the nissan can handle. 3rd row is good for our two teens and their friends. it is fast, handles very well and is very comfortable. ride feels solid when going over bumps slow or fast. my main complaint is the front passenger seat is manual and set up like a car. You cannot move it up if you want to ride more upright. there is plenty of headroom as the driver's moves up to have more a truck driver posture. the 4runner costs about 4-5 grand more. IMO, the 4runner is a better off road adventure car but not as good for daily driving. i also have a 2019 frontier crew cab mid-night so I get that truck feeling you have with the 4runner. both are excellent depending on your needs.
Bring back the Xterra as a budget option to these crazy wrangler/bronco/4R prices. The Xterra was always marketed as a basic everything you need nothing you don’t vehicle. Come on Nissan! Frontier platform and styling with a 6-speed manual!
in exterra, theres a latest generation now, ground clearance is so high also. i just dont know how comfortable it is. i saw in person in the parking lot, i heard the engine which is like that of the truck engine
Enjoyed the video and the format. Point taken regarding this being less of a comparison video and more of combining two into one. I do see the Pathfinder has no business venturing into terrain that a 4Runner was built to conquer. If you cannot have both, then I guess it all comes down to your priorities and spousal consent i.e. compromise 🙂
These are both great vehicles with a historic off-road pedigree. You really did a great review as an owner of one of the contestants. Very unbiased. I am shopping both of these vehicles. I think I am probably going to go with the 4Runner Nightshade or Limited so I can get the 3rd row and slap some oversized BFgoodrich Mud terrain or all terrain tires on that puppy.
This is a great comparison I like these better you can see them side to side. If the 4 runner would get get better mpg would be nice I would get the Nissan do to my needs
Start by saying I love toyota, reliability is hard to beat on all their models. If youre going to buy 1 car every 20 years, Toyota is it. However, Nissans Drive and Ride better on the road, IMHO. Get the Nissan if you trade every 7 years or 100k, Get the Toyota 4R if you want to keep it longer and you're ok with a truck ride and feel. I personally don't like the ride, steering, or feel, of the 4 runner, or the Tacoma. (No offense intended to those who do, I'm sure I'll be told I have though). Now that Nissan has Auto transmission, unless youre going down rock crawling roads, the Nissan should do fine. I've driven and rented them all, Nissan good for the money and most peoples needs. Avoid the Nissan CVT!! Finally, if you want to spend most time off-road, and you can put up with subpar highway manners, get your 4 runner.
I think because the 4runners aren't always going for the newest style and tech, long term the look holds up a lot better. All the models age really well and hold so much value. Wish they didn't because I want some of the older gens! I love my 5th gen, imagine it will be a sought after classic years from now, especially since it is probably the last ultra reliable gas true off roader
The Toyota 4Runner runs forever. The 4Runner is a real SUV with body on frame ruggedness. Engine is longitude with driveshaft to rear wheels. Nissan Pathfinder is glorified Crossover unibody with horizontal engine driving primarily front wheels similar to most modern front wheel drive passenger cars. People noticed Pathfinder has better ride but none understands why. The Toyota 4Runner built for a duty and it excels at what it is built for.
I’m always surprised when I hear the mileage people get with their 4Runner. I have a 2015 Limited with 160k miles. Leveled the fron and off-road tires and still average 19.5. To get 16mpg I would either have to be off-roading or driving in traffic with a heavy foot. Highway mileage is around 21.
As a proud new pathfinder owner, this comparison isn’t even fair. The 4Runner destroys the pathfinder off road. Rock Creek is mostly a cosmetic package.
I watched and watched this to try to find out what I really wanted to see. I have not bought the forerunner or the Pathfinder yet, but I am trying to find one that I could have two people sleep next to each other on a camping trip. I noticed with the forerunner those huge wheel wells get in the way. To sleep in a forerunner with two people, you’ll almost have to put a piece of plywood above the wheel well and that leaves you no room above your head to try to sleep and you’ll feel like a sardine in the sardine can. Looking at the Nissan. Sad to say he did not have all the seats laid down to show a sleeping space. It appears the Nissan is going to have more room for two people to sleep next to each other. That is going to be my main criteria and that is to have enough room for two people if I go camping. I don’t want to go camping alone. So that kicks the Toyota right out the door. And I’m going to continue to look for the back of a Nissan to see if there’s room for two people to sleep with each other. If it does, that’s the one I’m going to get.
I guess it depends what you are comparing. If it’s off road capability, there was no reason to even make the video. The inside is really comfy on the Nissan, it’s faster and you can comfortably seat more people. I bought one in October. Had I the money for a Land Cruiser that would be in my driveway right now but I get much much better mpg with the pathfinder.
Drove both Pathfinder and the 4 Runner. Love the Pathfinder. It’s modern, comfy and has all the latest technology. 4Runner is like stepping back in time at least 15 years. The technology in 4 Runner is antiquated. Even the Navigation system sucks real bed. Screen is tiny and it lacks many many options that you get with Pathfinder. I decided on the pathfinder and I would do it again any day. Pathfinder all day. 4Runner has nothing on Pathfinder. Pathfinder is superior in many ways.
I just want to know I’m on my third Toyota and I put over 200,000 miles on every last one of them can a Nissan pathfinder to do that and the Nissan pathfinder I see as more of a weather conqueror than an off-road conqueror
That is far from Nissan's most capable Pathfinder. It actually likely the *least* capable Pathfinder, unless you define capable as moving 7 people around while using the least fuel. That's the reason why the Patfinder got neutered in 2013, cause of the complaints about fuel economy. You don't buy an off-road capable, truck based SUV and the complain about fuel economy. It's part of the game if you want something rugged and designed to work.
You forgot to mention the rockcreep is off road "inspired" by nissans words. The toyota will off road better but for people who just like the off road look the nissan is the way to go
How can you consider yourself an “off roader” if it has unibody construction. The two aren’t even comparable, one is a rough and tough LOOKING mom mobile for the moms that care more about mpg… The other is a few armor plates away from being a tank..
I took the pathfinder for a ride over the weekend and I must say I was not impressed with the ride. I did not like the transmission and it just felt cheap. For 45k I expected more.
2 complerely different vehicles... comparison is pointless. The Pathfinder is a family vehicle with some off-road capabilty. The 4funner is an offroad SUV thats about 10 years past its best before date. If nissan brought back the Xtera now that would be comparable.
@zhester86 so what kind of Nissan truck do you have? my my 3rd one was a 2005 Frontier Sl 4.0 . It was really good to me sold it after 150000 plus . sorry I sold it
@@brad4527 replaced transmissions in 2-3 Nissans I have owned.. Toyota all the way now. Better re sale value. Better quality, longevity, and dependability. Nissan used to sell you more for the money on bells and whistles, now they have Toyota pricing but not Toyota quality..
That’s what I was thinking but apparently a lot of people are cross shopping them! If you wouldn’t really off road in either of them, the Nissan is the way to go. I’ve driven mine on the sand dunes and in snow and it does great. It just doesn’t have enough clearance to go on any kind of serious trail though. Fire roads are the most it can do. The 4Runner on the other hand can go pretty much anywhere and there are so many mods and parts for them you can build it to pretty much any capability you want.
The 4runner hasn't changed in forever and that's a GOOD THING!
lets say they will make the screen to 12 inches..... haha people will be crazy and buy 4runner.....
i just got my wife the rock creek. my wife and i will only drive national park double track roads than can be tricky but not past the level the nissan can handle. 3rd row is good for our two teens and their friends. it is fast, handles very well and is very comfortable. ride feels solid when going over bumps slow or fast. my main complaint is the front passenger seat is manual and set up like a car. You cannot move it up if you want to ride more upright. there is plenty of headroom as the driver's moves up to have more a truck driver posture. the 4runner costs about 4-5 grand more. IMO, the 4runner is a better off road adventure car but not as good for daily driving. i also have a 2019 frontier crew cab mid-night so I get that truck feeling you have with the 4runner. both are excellent depending on your needs.
Great comparison review! Keep em coming!
Bring back the Xterra as a budget option to these crazy wrangler/bronco/4R prices. The Xterra was always marketed as a basic everything you need nothing you don’t vehicle. Come on Nissan! Frontier platform and styling with a 6-speed manual!
It's still have mine if some asshole didn't cut my wife off 5 years ago.
in exterra, theres a latest generation now, ground clearance is so high also. i just dont know how comfortable it is. i saw in person in the parking lot, i heard the engine which is like that of the truck engine
Enjoyed the video and the format. Point taken regarding this being less of a comparison video and more of combining two into one. I do see the Pathfinder has no business venturing into terrain that a 4Runner was built to conquer. If you cannot have both, then I guess it all comes down to your priorities and spousal consent i.e. compromise 🙂
Going back and forth between these models so love this comparison! Agree that I would buy the Xterra if Nissan made it!
Apparently it's coming back in 2024. I miss my 2012 X Pro4x.
as of march 2024, i saw new ex terra here in Qatar. its available here
These are both great vehicles with a historic off-road pedigree. You really did a great review as an owner of one of the contestants. Very unbiased. I am shopping both of these vehicles. I think I am probably going to go with the 4Runner Nightshade or Limited so I can get the 3rd row and slap some oversized BFgoodrich Mud terrain or all terrain tires on that puppy.
Pathfinder definitely looks good wish it had a package lifted factory
Great video. I'm considering these exact 2 vehicles so this was really helpful.
This is a great comparison I like these better you can see them side to side. If the 4 runner would get get better mpg would be nice I would get the Nissan do to my needs
Start by saying I love toyota, reliability is hard to beat on all their models. If youre going to buy 1 car every 20 years, Toyota is it. However, Nissans Drive and Ride better on the road, IMHO. Get the Nissan if you trade every 7 years or 100k, Get the Toyota 4R if you want to keep it longer and you're ok with a truck ride and feel. I personally don't like the ride, steering, or feel, of the 4 runner, or the Tacoma. (No offense intended to those who do, I'm sure I'll be told I have though). Now that Nissan has Auto transmission, unless youre going down rock crawling roads, the Nissan should do fine. I've driven and rented them all, Nissan good for the money and most peoples needs. Avoid the Nissan CVT!! Finally, if you want to spend most time off-road, and you can put up with subpar highway manners, get your 4 runner.
I think because the 4runners aren't always going for the newest style and tech, long term the look holds up a lot better. All the models age really well and hold so much value. Wish they didn't because I want some of the older gens! I love my 5th gen, imagine it will be a sought after classic years from now, especially since it is probably the last ultra reliable gas true off roader
Nissan really needs to bring back the Xterra 😢
They are
If you run premium in the Rock Creek you get 11 hp
exterra looks similar with isuzu d max. i still prefer pathfinder
The Toyota 4Runner runs forever.
The 4Runner is a real SUV with body on frame ruggedness. Engine is longitude with driveshaft to rear wheels.
Nissan Pathfinder is glorified Crossover unibody with horizontal engine driving primarily front wheels similar to most modern front wheel drive passenger cars.
People noticed Pathfinder has better ride but none understands why. The Toyota 4Runner built for a duty and it excels at what it is built for.
That is true. But 95% of people don't take these off road but want the look.
@@dank8017 Where did you get that percentage from?
@@cortezmiller1899 He doesn’t even know, just thought of a number that sounded good to him 😅
I’m always surprised when I hear the mileage people get with their 4Runner. I have a 2015 Limited with 160k miles. Leveled the fron and off-road tires and still average 19.5. To get 16mpg I would either have to be off-roading or driving in traffic with a heavy foot. Highway mileage is around 21.
A comparison with the Toyota 4Runner Limited would have been a little better, since the Limited isn't as decked out for off-roading like the TRD is.
nissan pathfinder interior prenium and exterior design very luxurious compare to cheaply built toyota 4runner.
Nothing will ever beat the quality of the 4Runner.
One is often seen offroad...and the other often see on crawling at the mall...can you guess which one? 😂
The 4 Runner
The Mall finder
I see more 4Runners mall crawling 🤣🤣🤣
I have a Toyota 4runner for 20 years this my second one i had 2000 already
As a proud new pathfinder owner, this comparison isn’t even fair. The 4Runner destroys the pathfinder off road. Rock Creek is mostly a cosmetic package.
Yes, but this review didn't really test offroad capabilities. It was mostly about appearance and on road driving.
I'm stuck on which to get becuase of fuel economy but also the safety ratings on the 4runner is a little worrying for me
I watched and watched this to try to find out what I really wanted to see. I have not bought the forerunner or the Pathfinder yet, but I am trying to find one that I could have two people sleep next to each other on a camping trip. I noticed with the forerunner those huge wheel wells get in the way.
To sleep in a forerunner with two people, you’ll almost have to put a piece of plywood above the wheel well and that leaves you no room above your head to try to sleep and you’ll feel like a sardine in the sardine can. Looking at the Nissan. Sad to say he did not have all the seats laid down to show a sleeping space. It appears the Nissan is going to have more room for two people to sleep next to each other. That is going to be my main criteria and that is to have enough room for two people if I go camping. I don’t want to go camping alone. So that kicks the Toyota right out the door. And I’m going to continue to look for the back of a Nissan to see if there’s room for two people to sleep with each other. If it does, that’s the one I’m going to get.
Is it already spring in utah? Is that why ben shaved?
I guess it depends what you are comparing. If it’s off road capability, there was no reason to even make the video. The inside is really comfy on the Nissan, it’s faster and you can comfortably seat more people. I bought one in October. Had I the money for a Land Cruiser that would be in my driveway right now but I get much much better mpg with the pathfinder.
Drove both Pathfinder and the 4 Runner. Love the Pathfinder. It’s modern, comfy and has all the latest technology. 4Runner is like stepping back in time at least 15 years. The technology in 4 Runner is antiquated. Even the Navigation system sucks real bed. Screen is tiny and it lacks many many options that you get with Pathfinder. I decided on the pathfinder and I would do it again any day. Pathfinder all day. 4Runner has nothing on Pathfinder. Pathfinder is superior in many ways.
4Runner is body on frame and the pathfinder is not. And the 4runner has superior reliability and resale. I’ll take it over a pathfinder any day.
4runner cost close to 15k more, and poor mpg but If i had the money id take the 4runner
others say that rock creek has 300torque but you said 270. i dont know what is the exact torque?
That Pathfinder is good looking love the Rock Creek.
I Take the 2024 Toyota 4Runner. Good Show, Ben "Party" Hardy. (smile)
I just want to know I’m on my third Toyota and I put over 200,000 miles on every last one of them can a Nissan pathfinder to do that and the Nissan pathfinder I see as more of a weather conqueror than an off-road conqueror
Nissan pathfinder rock creek is the best.
Looks what they designed before u hit the light ball the bumper is protecting the hole car.
I love my 2022 Pathfinder then the 4Runner it’s rides really good and I was thinking of a Rock creek edition 😂
Im on the pathfinder.
4Runner all day, every day.
this might have been a comparable back in the 90s but nissan got bought out in 2004 or something by renalt And have never been the same since.
That is far from Nissan's most capable Pathfinder. It actually likely the *least* capable Pathfinder, unless you define capable as moving 7 people around while using the least fuel.
That's the reason why the Patfinder got neutered in 2013, cause of the complaints about fuel economy. You don't buy an off-road capable, truck based SUV and the complain about fuel economy. It's part of the game if you want something rugged and designed to work.
Those off road tires get kinda noisy around 60mph in the Rock Creek.
You forgot to mention the rockcreep is off road "inspired" by nissans words. The toyota will off road better but for people who just like the off road look the nissan is the way to go
I like Toyota 4runner
The 4Runner does come with a 3rd row option, doesn’t it? I have a 2019 with a 3rd row… unless it’s no longer produced…
Only the SR5 or the Limited. The TRD Pro, Off Road etc don't have 3rd row option.
I am scared if they bring back the Xterra. They will dealer mark up the hell out of it.
I prefer the 4RUNNER's ruggedness.. I think overall, it will last much longer than the Nissan
How can you consider yourself an “off roader” if it has unibody construction. The two aren’t even comparable, one is a rough and tough LOOKING mom mobile for the moms that care more about mpg… The other is a few armor plates away from being a tank..
Toyotas whole lineup over Nissans any day of the week, twice on Sunday.
Nissan is really doing good things lately, best bang for the buck.
Rock creek can be had for 40k, Trd pro is at least 56k. Also they are different classes of vehicle, this is a stupid comparison.
I wish the pathfinder was a body on frame truck
Nissan beats toyota in ride all day but toyota wins people
Nissan grill is way better than the 2024 Toyo BUT the 2025 Toyo 4 Runner grill is comparable
I’ll be buying the Nissan, just over all a better for everyday driving.
4Runner tried and true
I mean it's called Rock Creek not Off Road ... If you wanted all that you should have gotten a 4X Pro
TRD PRO hands down ......
4Runner All the way !!!
Did you consider any of the Jeep products?
The Trailhawk grand cherokee
I took the pathfinder for a ride over the weekend and I must say I was not impressed with the ride. I did not like the transmission and it just felt cheap. For 45k I expected more.
2 complerely different vehicles... comparison is pointless. The Pathfinder is a family vehicle with some off-road capabilty. The 4funner is an offroad SUV thats about 10 years past its best before date. If nissan brought back the Xtera now that would be comparable.
Why compare???? it's a different breed.!!!
You must of video'd this a while back
Any word on an Armada Rock Creek ?
Nothing yet
That sounds expensive
Ben you ruined if for everybody buying that TRD. You were supposed to wait until dealers get desparate.
The more crap they pile into these new vehicles the more you have to end up fixing. Give me a brand new 1950s vehicle and I be happy.
front wheel drive or all wheel drive no true low range not a good test maybe against the GMC Arcadia AT4
Pathetic ground clearance and no real skid plates.
Nissan all day!
All day at the shop after 100k
@zhester86 so what kind of Nissan truck do you have?
my my 3rd one was a 2005 Frontier Sl 4.0 . It was really good to me sold it after 150000 plus . sorry I sold it
@@brad4527 replaced transmissions in 2-3 Nissans I have owned.. Toyota all the way now. Better re sale value. Better quality, longevity, and dependability. Nissan used to sell you more for the money on bells and whistles, now they have Toyota pricing but not Toyota quality..
@@zhester86 wow, surprised.
Good luck with the Toy
Toyota all the EVER DAY. Nissan all-day electrical problems.
They both are not the same price 4runner over priced and they are in the 60s pathfinder is in the 40s
This rides like a suv and the 4Runner rides like a truck. All you need to know.
Neither one is worth 50k.
Heck no
The Toyota will last forever though 🤷♂️
How are these even a comparison?! Doesn’t make sense 😂
That’s what I was thinking but apparently a lot of people are cross shopping them! If you wouldn’t really off road in either of them, the Nissan is the way to go. I’ve driven mine on the sand dunes and in snow and it does great. It just doesn’t have enough clearance to go on any kind of serious trail though. Fire roads are the most it can do. The 4Runner on the other hand can go pretty much anywhere and there are so many mods and parts for them you can build it to pretty much any capability you want.
4Runner better idc 😂
Nissan
Pathfinder vs 4Runner??...Nissan all day!
Nissan all day in the shop fixing electrical problems 😅
Nissan, for me, please .
Where’s the snow????
Your hair grew out quickly
Wats up Benny
Where is the doggy
I prefer the Nissan Pathfinder Rock Creek all day! That Toyota 4Runner looks so outdated and hideous. Toyota is overrated.
@@pinchemichael5861 Hater! Hush Toyota fangirl.
4runner reliability that’s for sure.. but i’ll take the pathfinder for the safety of my family.. 4runner has a very bad crast test result..
@@bernardgacad7205Toyota is one of the best for safety, if you like the nissan better that’s fine, but don’t lie about the 4runner lol
@@mattgrunenwald just check the crash test result of 4runner ..the small overlap test it’s like a can of sardines 😂😂
4Runner is one of the best looking vehicles on the road, bullet proof and will triple the miles at least what that pathfinder will go.
Ben please reply to my comment. Hi!!
Hello
@@BenHardyCars How are you?
@@BenHardyCars Good morning Brn. How are you today?
I'm so glad you shaved that beer down you was looking like you was lost in the woods you cute for that