I've got a Rock Creek and she's been a blast. She tears through snow, sand, and mud. The tires can use an upgrade, and maybe installing a bigger lift and underbody protection, but otherwise she's great. She wasn't meant for rock crawling, she was meant for light to moderate offroading. They did well with this one imo.
Most of us old people like SUV’s because they’re easier to get in and out of than a sedan. Plus I get to see over the guardrail rather than at it. Your clothing choice this week is spot on Tom: hiking/work boots and Carhart jacket. Maybe next time you could pull a trailer of freshly cut wood. And what’s this? The wife is shopping for a new car! You must keep us informed on her decision.
Ive taken my 1.5 year old RC on the beach in St. Augustine, and near Fort Pickens. On the more rugged trails in Yellowstone and Badlands. Heading up to Cape Cod this summer for some more beach driving. We like the more basic features (previous honda pilot had all sorts of electrical issues...traded it in and vowed to keep it basic). The 2nd row capt chairs are great for our kids. Our 8 year old is autistic and gives him his defined space. Roof rack was tricky cause of the cross bars design. Used shims to raise it off the cross bars a lil more and got longer bolts to mount it. Cameras are good for crawling along around obstacles (especially into the garage as old deaf cat is doing her thing). We're based in tenn and she's taken us to yellowstone, tetons, badlands, glacier, both carolinas, florida, Roosevelt NP. Probably over our weight limit on all the trips. There's a few nags i have with her, but she's been good overall.
Nissan has been making huge strides in improving their product line and this is no exception. All people typically want is AWD for their main car, plastic body-cladding just gives the impression that you're over-prepared to deal with the challenge of your local CostCo parking in the rain. I bought an 2017 Golf Alltrack which has the phony body-cladding, but I would have easily have passed up on that option just to get AWD. It just gives me that much more confidence driving in bad weather and jotting about Tahoe when they haven't plowed the secondary streets. Works like a charm. If I lived there, a Jeep or Subaru is a must-have, trust me. Great review Tom!
I have a 2018 pathfinder sv 4x4 yes the dreaded CVT. I put on a set of nitto nomad grapplers and that is what has made all the difference in the world. The CVT has never given me any issues going over Sierra nevada fire roads in rain/mud/snow or sandy paths out in the Tumey Hills. I'm thinking of "upgrading" to the rock creek but I've yet to feel like i need to. Maybe when the CVT finally fails if it ever does.
The real win of the rock creek is that it can be had 6-10k under MSRP right now while the telluride prox and traverse z71 and pilot trailsport are all at MSRP and really 50-52k
It's great that Nissan has moved away from the CVT in Pathfinder. That puts it back into the real of consideration. The post-Gohn era at Nissan is showing some real promise!
I've had my RC. For 2 weeks now. I Amazon upgraded to wireless car play and wireless phone charging for about $75 .. eventually you can upgrade the speakers but meh they are good enough. It's a real bummer they got rid of the 12v port in the hatch that would of been very handy on camping trips. Lastly this vehicle comes with the Hitch and 7pin connector already installed. Great value I feel
The refresh in Pathfinder has made it competitive with Pilots and Tellurides. Very nice vehicle. I only dislike the electric shift lever That goes back to its stationary position. Otherwise very well done and reasonably priced.
I looked at a Pathfinder this weekend as a potential replacement for my leased F-150 as a tow vehicle. I liked it, until I looked at the customer reviews on Edmonds: lots of quality control problems by many customers. Do you have any info on this issue? Also, why do all of the manufacturers seem to limit a second row bench seat to the lowest trim lines? I can’t imagine my dog would be happy in a captain’s chair for our 20 hour annual drive to Florida.
maybe base it off of the new frontier... Nissan look at the 4RUNNER , shorter 109" wheel base no more than 115" wheel base , look at the INESOS GRANDER , 186 -193" over all, sold rear axle , good off road package , no top self luxury wagon and please.......no 3rd row seating
Looks great but WHY don't you Nissan make it more like R50? Unibody with rear axle suspension or WHY not use body on frame with rear axle suspension... Asia market has Terra...
I purchased a 2024 Rock Creek and had one major problem. That is that the passenger seat height is not adjustable at all. My wife is the primary driver, and she is 5 and 3, and even the driver's seat has to be set the highest, with extra cushioning. When she sits in the passenger seat she looks like a grade schooler. If the airbag inflated against a short passenger in this condition, will her face be safe? Could Nissan provide taller seat rails?
I doubt Nissan has an aftermarket rail. As a passenger she should be fine with the airbags (airbags are designed for people to fall into them after they've deployed. My wife is even more petite and we bought our first Volvo because it was one of the only vehicles with a telescoping wheel back in the day. She really needed to back that airbag off a bit since she sits so close to the wheel.
It’s a shame the Pathfinder is as expensive as its rivals in the US, leading to poor reviews. Here in Canada, the Platinum if $61k CAD ($44.7 USD), mostly $10k CAD less than the Pilot, GH, etc.
Nissan could simply enclose the back of the Frontier and make a new Xterra which would be awesome, but for whatever reason, they won't.😕 As for the equipment on this; I personally do not want a glass roof (hail), sun roof (leaks), don't care about premium sound, and don't want a power tailgate (one more thing to break), I don't want to control everthing through a touch screen, I prefer cloth seats to leather, I hate auto start/stop so I am glad there is a button to disable it. So I like this, I just wonder if the Rock Creek trim is even worth it.
I don’t disagree with you, the Xterra was awesome. But sales are sales, and it doesn’t sell well. It isn’t popular enough to really make a huge dent in the 4runner crowd, and it’s too rough for the soccer mom crowd being a body on frame design with rear solid axle.
@@JimYeats ...the Xterra needs to be priced better (i.e. lower) than the 4Runner to be competitive. Nissan also needs to give the Xterra real off road chops and support it for the overland enthusiast (turn the Xterra into a lifestyle vehicle). Make it dead nuts reliable and support it to the N-th degree. The Xterra can't be a rental car special like some of their other offerings....
I think part of consumers ditching sedans is because the government incentivizes auto makers to make SUVs because they have more lax fuel efficiency requirements compared to sedans.
👍80. Thanks Tom. Wow, no AA/ACP on the Rock Creek. Those two items should be as standard as a steering wheel at this stage in the game. If the lowly Kicks can get AA/ACP, and the Rock Creek doesn't/can't; huge F.A.I.L. on Nissan. Still on the fence btwn the aging CX-9 and the new PF to replace our CX-5. It will be a town/mall racer, so I'm not looking for Wrangler abilities. We loved our '04 R50 PF, so the new PF has our eye. But w/equipment omissions forcing one to go to the highest trim, that could be a no-go. This Rock Creek is a tough sale at the lofty $45k mark w/omitted stuffs.
@@DrivenCarReviews oh, no 'wireless' AA/ACP. that's better. Not sure why ppl quibble about wired vs wireless. wired is just fine; unless ppl don't want to take the phone out of their purse/pocket. but if they don't want to take the phone out, how can they text and drive? 🤔 like I see soooo many ppl doing. I'll keep the Driven.Quotes in mind when looking. And, our '04 R50 got 14/19 mpg, so this one is a bit better...........
If you had put the rolls' on its side , instead of on its back -you would of fit more !!!!! Next time give the Pathfinder a fair chance [: ( tid bit from a costco Mom )
Who cares about driving it on dry rocks. If driven the correct way an SUV with front-wheel-drive could do that just as well. What I wanna know is how well does it do in deep snow during blizzard conditions. I've seen Jeeps and other off-road type SUVs do just fine climbing rocks, but they do horrible in winter weather even with the right tires.
@@DrivenCarReviews - Yes all very true. But depending on the automaker and trim leve,l everyone's "four wheel drive" system is different as some are more advanced than others.
do like the wilderness on the forester /out back, honda has a tail sport , explorer timberline ? if one can get a base 4runner SR5 4x4 at msrp still the best trail rig with its 109" wheelbase and no 3rd row seats
What kind of "off roading" are you planning to do in this thing even if it had skid plates lol. These things made for mall duty and maybe a dirt road on occasion. Mini vans don't have skid plates and the pathfinder is the exact same.
This is a waste, sorry not sorry. Why not just bring back the XTerra. The market is is perfect for its resurrection. Literally the time couldn’t be better. I would have had it ready by the Bronco debut. Just saying…
...the black interior is fine. It's how Nissan accented it that is the problem. I prefer black interiors to light grays, beiges, and especially white interiors. Some more contrasting natural colors like a brown, blue, or maroon, thrown in as an accent on the seats/dash would have been nice (they already use an orange stitching, so why no more orange perhaps). They could also do some (brushed) aluminum or stainless steel trim to break up the black.
@@K03sport I think they went cheap. Yes. Chrome or brushed aluminum would have helped. Why not have a beige or lighter grey option? There really are at least two camps of thought on this. I recall test driving a GM suv once like the Traverse and it had a black interior that swallowed up all the light and was miserable. On a nice bright day you get in and you could not even see your own legs or feet. It was truly miserable.
@@guidedmeditation2396... Our 04 PF SE had a dark gray cloth interior and it did a good job of hiding dirt. For a vehicle like this, maybe Nissan should have put in the fixed glass center piece like they did on Maximas at one time. No sliding, no venting, just a 10"-12" wide piece of tinted glass from the front seats all the way to the third row; or split it into 2 segments to allow a reinforcement beam through the center of the roof to add/allow light into the cabin. Auto designing is tough and is a constant uphill battle against the accountants.
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Great to watch an honest review instead of a quasi-influencer. Great production value, as always.
I've got a Rock Creek and she's been a blast. She tears through snow, sand, and mud. The tires can use an upgrade, and maybe installing a bigger lift and underbody protection, but otherwise she's great. She wasn't meant for rock crawling, she was meant for light to moderate offroading. They did well with this one imo.
Most of us old people like SUV’s because they’re easier to get in and out of than a sedan. Plus I get to see over the guardrail rather than at it.
Your clothing choice this week is spot on Tom: hiking/work boots and Carhart jacket. Maybe next time you could pull a trailer of freshly cut wood.
And what’s this? The wife is shopping for a new car! You must keep us informed on her decision.
Very happy Nissan is making the Pathfinder great again loving the Rock Creek Edition and so much happy now has an 9 speed automatic transmission.
Ive taken my 1.5 year old RC on the beach in St. Augustine, and near Fort Pickens. On the more rugged trails in Yellowstone and Badlands. Heading up to Cape Cod this summer for some more beach driving.
We like the more basic features (previous honda pilot had all sorts of electrical issues...traded it in and vowed to keep it basic).
The 2nd row capt chairs are great for our kids. Our 8 year old is autistic and gives him his defined space.
Roof rack was tricky cause of the cross bars design. Used shims to raise it off the cross bars a lil more and got longer bolts to mount it.
Cameras are good for crawling along around obstacles (especially into the garage as old deaf cat is doing her thing).
We're based in tenn and she's taken us to yellowstone, tetons, badlands, glacier, both carolinas, florida, Roosevelt NP. Probably over our weight limit on all the trips.
There's a few nags i have with her, but she's been good overall.
Another nice review, with great advice. Thanks.
Nissan has been making huge strides in improving their product line and this is no exception. All people typically want is AWD for their main car, plastic body-cladding just gives the impression that you're over-prepared to deal with the challenge of your local CostCo parking in the rain. I bought an 2017 Golf Alltrack which has the phony body-cladding, but I would have easily have passed up on that option just to get AWD. It just gives me that much more confidence driving in bad weather and jotting about Tahoe when they haven't plowed the secondary streets. Works like a charm. If I lived there, a Jeep or Subaru is a must-have, trust me. Great review Tom!
Dunno why, but the algorithm had you out of my rotation for a bit. Got a backlog of videos to watch, not the worst thing. Great review as always!
One of the best car channels on RUclips! I bet Costco return desk doesn't like you so much though lol.
I restock myself. A lot of people think I work there.
You taught me a new term: "beadlock"! Thanks!
Just picked up our 2024 Rock Creek and loving it! We test drove 5 other vehicles and ended up choosing the Rock Creek. 👍
Looking to get one as well. Any regrets?
I have a 2018 pathfinder sv 4x4 yes the dreaded CVT. I put on a set of nitto nomad grapplers and that is what has made all the difference in the world. The CVT has never given me any issues going over Sierra nevada fire roads in rain/mud/snow or sandy paths out in the Tumey Hills. I'm thinking of "upgrading" to the rock creek but I've yet to feel like i need to. Maybe when the CVT finally fails if it ever does.
Remember to Voelk for Tom!
No underbody protection in an off-road version of an SUV?
The real win of the rock creek is that it can be had 6-10k under MSRP right now while the telluride prox and traverse z71 and pilot trailsport are all at MSRP and really 50-52k
It's great that Nissan has moved away from the CVT in Pathfinder. That puts it back into the real of consideration. The post-Gohn era at Nissan is showing some real promise!
Nissan should bring back the Xterra for this kind of stuff
A great review, as always. Just curious Tom, how many pairs of shoes do you own?😊
Thanks, Tom!
Imagine your carry-on on your next flight being a pack of Kirkland TP! 😂
I've had my RC. For 2 weeks now. I Amazon upgraded to wireless car play and wireless phone charging for about $75 .. eventually you can upgrade the speakers but meh they are good enough. It's a real bummer they got rid of the 12v port in the hatch that would of been very handy on camping trips. Lastly this vehicle comes with the Hitch and 7pin connector already installed. Great value I feel
Thanks for sharing this hack. I would like to upgrade as well. Any link to the products on Amazon that worked for you? Did you install them yourself?
The refresh in Pathfinder has made it competitive with Pilots and Tellurides. Very nice vehicle. I only dislike the electric shift lever That goes back to its stationary position. Otherwise very well done and reasonably priced.
Great content
I looked at a Pathfinder this weekend as a potential replacement for my leased F-150 as a tow vehicle. I liked it, until I looked at the customer reviews on Edmonds: lots of quality control problems by many customers. Do you have any info on this issue?
Also, why do all of the manufacturers seem to limit a second row bench seat to the lowest trim lines? I can’t imagine my dog would be happy in a captain’s chair for our 20 hour annual drive to Florida.
Check out the new Pilot, most trims have a bench
My wife just bought a rock creek today!
Any chance Nissan brings a body on frame SUV (successor to the Xterra) back on the market to challenge the 4Runner?
maybe base it off of the new frontier... Nissan look at the 4RUNNER , shorter 109" wheel base no more than 115" wheel base , look at the INESOS GRANDER , 186 -193" over all, sold rear axle , good off road package , no top self luxury wagon and please.......no 3rd row seating
I saw a review on one of these in Canada on here and it had a power lift gate .. 🤷🏻♂️
Looks great but WHY don't you Nissan make it more like R50? Unibody with rear axle suspension or WHY not use body on frame with rear axle suspension... Asia market has Terra...
I purchased a 2024 Rock Creek and had one major problem. That is that the passenger seat height is not adjustable at all. My wife is the primary driver, and she is 5 and 3, and even the driver's seat has to be set the highest, with extra cushioning. When she sits in the passenger seat she looks like a grade schooler. If the airbag inflated against a short passenger in this condition, will her face be safe?
Could Nissan provide taller seat rails?
I doubt Nissan has an aftermarket rail. As a passenger she should be fine with the airbags (airbags are designed for people to fall into them after they've deployed. My wife is even more petite and we bought our first Volvo because it was one of the only vehicles with a telescoping wheel back in the day. She really needed to back that airbag off a bit since she sits so close to the wheel.
It’s a shame the Pathfinder is as expensive as its rivals in the US, leading to poor reviews. Here in Canada, the Platinum if $61k CAD ($44.7 USD), mostly $10k CAD less than the Pilot, GH, etc.
it's important to have enough clearance no matter what else🙂
should i get this or ford explorer st 3.0 turbo?
The most handsome Mallfinder so far but a Kia Carnival makes more sense imo 👍😊
Nissan could simply enclose the back of the Frontier and make a new Xterra which would be awesome, but for whatever reason, they won't.😕 As for the equipment on this; I personally do not want a glass roof (hail), sun roof (leaks), don't care about premium sound, and don't want a power tailgate (one more thing to break), I don't want to control everthing through a touch screen, I prefer cloth seats to leather, I hate auto start/stop so I am glad there is a button to disable it. So I like this, I just wonder if the Rock Creek trim is even worth it.
I don’t disagree with you, the Xterra was awesome. But sales are sales, and it doesn’t sell well. It isn’t popular enough to really make a huge dent in the 4runner crowd, and it’s too rough for the soccer mom crowd being a body on frame design with rear solid axle.
@@JimYeats ...the Xterra needs to be priced better (i.e. lower) than the 4Runner to be competitive. Nissan also needs to give the Xterra real off road chops and support it for the overland enthusiast (turn the Xterra into a lifestyle vehicle). Make it dead nuts reliable and support it to the N-th degree. The Xterra can't be a rental car special like some of their other offerings....
I think part of consumers ditching sedans is because the government incentivizes auto makers to make SUVs because they have more lax fuel efficiency requirements compared to sedans.
Don't see the point without real offroad upgrades.
Toyota should make a TRD pro version of the Sienna
I like buying near me. In long term it is better to work with a dealer near you with good service.
But, what if the dealer closest by is not good? Really, it pays to look around.
Needs a few more options before I would consider.
👍80. Thanks Tom. Wow, no AA/ACP on the Rock Creek. Those two items should be as standard as a steering wheel at this stage in the game. If the lowly Kicks can get AA/ACP, and the Rock Creek doesn't/can't; huge F.A.I.L. on Nissan. Still on the fence btwn the aging CX-9 and the new PF to replace our CX-5. It will be a town/mall racer, so I'm not looking for Wrangler abilities. We loved our '04 R50 PF, so the new PF has our eye. But w/equipment omissions forcing one to go to the highest trim, that could be a no-go. This Rock Creek is a tough sale at the lofty $45k mark w/omitted stuffs.
No WIRELESS AA/ACP. Must be plugged in.
@@DrivenCarReviews oh, no 'wireless' AA/ACP. that's better. Not sure why ppl quibble about wired vs wireless. wired is just fine; unless ppl don't want to take the phone out of their purse/pocket. but if they don't want to take the phone out, how can they text and drive? 🤔 like I see soooo many ppl doing. I'll keep the Driven.Quotes in mind when looking. And, our '04 R50 got 14/19 mpg, so this one is a bit better...........
If you had put the rolls' on its side , instead of on its back -you would of fit more !!!!! Next time give the Pathfinder a fair chance [: ( tid bit from a costco Mom )
Who cares about driving it on dry rocks. If driven the correct way an SUV with front-wheel-drive could do that just as well. What I wanna know is how well does it do in deep snow during blizzard conditions. I've seen Jeeps and other off-road type SUVs do just fine climbing rocks, but they do horrible in winter weather even with the right tires.
It's easier to order up rocks than it is snow. And you'd have to drive pretty poorly to make winter tires drive poorly in snow.
@@DrivenCarReviews - Yes all very true. But depending on the automaker and trim leve,l everyone's "four wheel drive" system is different as some are more advanced than others.
I have a Rock Creek and she absolutely deletes the snow. She's a monster in the winter.
if it only had a true low range , rear wheel drive base. go after 4Runner TRD off road and we all dont want need or will ever use a 3rd row
Nice looking, but all that "Rock Creek" branding is a bit much
Great review. Boy, it looks a lot better from the last generation.
But then, when you compare it to the Telluride... Gimme the KIA.
But the Subaru and Ford actually offer better off road chops. Hyundai, Kia and Nissan.. it’s basically an appearance package.
do like the wilderness on the forester /out back, honda has a tail sport , explorer timberline ? if one can get a base 4runner SR5 4x4 at msrp still the best trail rig with its 109" wheelbase and no 3rd row seats
Just another cosmetic only upgrade , with a primitive technology package. Felt anemic and clumsy off road
No skid plates, that's a deal breaker.
its front wheel drive base so I'm looking some where else 4 RUNNER TRD OFF ROAD
What kind of "off roading" are you planning to do in this thing even if it had skid plates lol. These things made for mall duty and maybe a dirt road on occasion. Mini vans don't have skid plates and the pathfinder is the exact same.
HEY NISSAN USA - BRING BACK THE XTERRA !!
"Ya, let's spend 50k and immediately put dents and scratches all over it"
It's a car with all terrain tires.
Oh god this almost as painful as TFL recking cars then selling them to dumb people.
wow, 6/10th?
At least Kia positioned their fake off-roader at the top with all the goodies. Beautiful production, I just don’t like the product lol.
kia SX-4 looks, good but still a 3 row mommy mobile
This is a waste, sorry not sorry. Why not just bring back the XTerra. The market is is perfect for its resurrection. Literally the time couldn’t be better. I would have had it ready by the Bronco debut. Just saying…
yes ...
Kia Telluride all the way
I hate the black interior. Deal breaker
...the black interior is fine. It's how Nissan accented it that is the problem. I prefer black interiors to light grays, beiges, and especially white interiors. Some more contrasting natural colors like a brown, blue, or maroon, thrown in as an accent on the seats/dash would have been nice (they already use an orange stitching, so why no more orange perhaps). They could also do some (brushed) aluminum or stainless steel trim to break up the black.
@@K03sport I think they went cheap.
Yes. Chrome or brushed aluminum would have helped.
Why not have a beige or lighter grey option?
There really are at least two camps of thought on this. I recall test driving a GM suv once like the Traverse and it had a black interior that swallowed up all the light and was miserable. On a nice bright day you get in and you could not even see your own legs or feet. It was truly miserable.
@@guidedmeditation2396... Our 04 PF SE had a dark gray cloth interior and it did a good job of hiding dirt. For a vehicle like this, maybe Nissan should have put in the fixed glass center piece like they did on Maximas at one time. No sliding, no venting, just a 10"-12" wide piece of tinted glass from the front seats all the way to the third row; or split it into 2 segments to allow a reinforcement beam through the center of the roof to add/allow light into the cabin. Auto designing is tough and is a constant uphill battle against the accountants.
@@K03sport That sounds stylish. I like it.
color choices. black , grey , black with grey with black with more grey and black