I try to explain my sight picture and how i shoot the bow with no sights assuming you already have your bow tuned and your shooting style in place. Good luck
I wish all us wheel, cam and lever instinctive shooters could get together a shoot together. We as instinctive shooters are a unique group. Keep up the video’s.
I've had my phoenix since April. I've tried numerous setups and shooting techniques. Your methodology is great. I shoot best 3 under, bow canted, while bringing my eye just over the top of the arrow looking down it. Focus on target adjust for distance and let her fly. I have used the QAD rest, the flipper rests, and the whisker biscuit (with 15 degrees cut out of it).I am sticking with the whisker biscuit b/c the arrow flight is good and it makes the least noise. The whisker biscuit does chew up feathers a bit. Had an old guy at the archery shop tell me to wrap the front part of the feathers in B50 to make a sort of ramp. I'm still experimenting , don't know yet if it will make feathers last a bit longer but in a week or so I will know. Shooting with fingers, I have to keep the bow under 60 lbs or I start to get finger numbness shooting it everyday. Thanks for the videos they really helped me set this thing up and start tinkering and experimenting .
I like this method for sure. I'll have me a oneida next year during the summer. I'm done with compound bows. The sights on them now a days runs allmost what a optic would for a rifle Scope. Crazy.
At close range look at the target FIRST and aim instinctively , THEN line up the left and right using the arrow tip from split vision by slightly bringing up the bow from the bottom. At far range aim with the arrow tip using split vision. This helped me out a lot thanks!
You are clearly way ahead of me shooting without sights. I will offer one idea I seldom see others talk about. When you come to anchor and settle in, with your draw hand, curl your little finger and touch the pad of your thumb with the outermost digit of your little finger. This came from Howard Hill. What it does for some is really allow you to flatten out the draw hand fingers and get the sensation that you are pulling with your back muscles. It may sound weird but it works for some so the reader may want to at least play with it and see what it does for you. Love your videos.
Thanks buddy , yes !! I used to do that and forgot all about it until you just mentioned that, when I get home and do some shooting I gotta get back in that groove, forget little tricks like that in the day to day madness 👍🏻
@@TRIBEDRAKE I want to say again how helpful your videos are. I have followed and envied Tim Wells for 20 years, but the simply will not or cannot share much about how he shoots. He did do a short video, but it was not very informative. It is almost like he doesn't want us to know what he is doing. You, on the other hand, are an open book. I know there are others out there like me that really appreciate what you share. Please let me know if there is anything personally I can do to help you. I have no idea what that may be, but would love to be able to pay back some.
I tied in a fix craw for 20 yards. The point of my arrow is my sight pin. With three fingers under on my craw gaps are small. You are doing a good job with your no bull videos!
I love your videos, My Onidea Just came in last week and I put through about 100 arrows so far and love it! the no sights shooting is getting better each day! I'm shocked at everyone saying how loud the Onidea bows are, mine is super quiet out of the box. I dropped the draw weight down from 65lbs to 55lbs and its a ton less tiring to shoot now
Thanks buddy, 50-55 lbs is comfortable draw weight, the bow is quiet and smooth and still will Blow through any animal you are hunting. Phoenix isn’t loud, put on some cat whiskers on the string and increase the brace height a little and it’s very quiet
What grain do you shoot im going out to Nebraska for mule deer shooting 70 lbs this fall 29 Inch draw without release. I have 400 grain arrows with a 100 grain tip. Also what mods do you use for long range such as 40-60 yards
Great video. I like using the whiffle ball goofballs. I just through them around the yard, or shove sticks in the holes to get them off the ground about the height of a squirrels head.
My brace height is 7" Use the good ol traditional rubber catwhiskers also, Make sure your bow is in time, check tiller, brace height and you can also use wool yarn and wrap your string where it contacts the limb if you cant get it to what ur looking for.
I'd love to see a video on how the Oneida pulls like a recurve. If you shooting a 50 pound Oneida at what point in the draw does it break over or the cams take over? Where ever it breaks what would your pull weight be right before it let off? I'm a recurve shooter but due to old age(68) and neck/shoulder problems I am interested in this bow. I have a compound but all the draw force is on the front end and I just can't handle 50 pounds. I shoot a 47# Bob Lee. I'm enjoying your down to earth videos.
This video was from last year, I now shoot a short, it maxes out at what I call 28” but the tag on the limb says 27.5 .. in the video that was a long I was shooting, but only drawing it 28”
I recently bought two older Oneida bows on ebay. An eagle and eagle aero force x80. Ive always preferred to shoot bows instinctive , three fingers under although I do have some bows with sights. Great video. What is the quiver you have mounted on your bow?
@TRIBEDRAKE Of course not. Story of my life, I see something cool I like and its always made of Unobtainium and no longer available on planet Earth lol. Thanks for the reply anyway 🙂 👍
@@kaylamarie8309 sure thing , lots people are wanting a completely offensive,illegal, high capacity quiver lately 😁. I got ideas it’s just putting them to good use
@@TRIBEDRAKE I love hunting with and shooting my recurves so I been wanting to get one. Did you have that bow dipped in bottom land camo ? Also I live not to far from honey creek archery you said that guy was good with lever bows right ? Do they sell phoenix
@@cameronbragg3612 I payed extra to have it dipped at Oneida when I first bought it, Jacob At honey creek may have a Phoenix for sale there, I’ve never been there myself but have talked to him quite a bit, don’t hesitate to go there if you are interested, I know he will help you out.
Ur fingers must be built up to really tough. Shooting without a glove or tab must have taken a while to get used to. Mine get a little numb after a couple hrs shooting with a tab. But as long as I get to shoot. RIGHT?
Great video dude. Barebow shootn takes practice. I've learned to float my arrow in my perephial just like my sights on my tournament bow. Seems to help my consistency.
I shoot 300 spine goldtip, 125 grains up front. My nocam likes a 400 spine and 125 grain up front both with nearly a full length arrow, I shot a shorter arrow at one point and put 230 grains up front
Have Phoenix in mail just to try it out. I mainly shoot traditional longbows. Awesome videos and awesome shooting. Had to subscribe “Vern is back there licking his nuts” 😂😂😂😂 Keep it original!
@@TRIBEDRAKE yeah I was watching a video from Steven Hann of Archery Supplies he mentioned that its not real accurate if you kant probably for him then because he shoots straight riser cool mate ill definitely get one
@@stephenbrooksby4466 my bow has a slight cant but not much, I can lay it over and shoot it good but dont really feel right to me, I would say do whatever feels right to you
"Nice and creative Videos，I can see A lot of thought has been put into the content and editing of the video， This is really my favorite channel.:) .🌴🌴🌴excellent 👍👌👍👌👍 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 " Hastings Oswego 2021
"lets say we are out there at 50 yards" is not the same as "i am at 50 yards." its called a hypothetical for explanation purposes. "get outta here bud"
What’s crap about it? You know what I hate about RUclips is that when someone don’t like something they can’t just shut up and move on, just gotta negatively make a comment, if you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Plain common sense
I wish all us wheel, cam and lever instinctive shooters could get together a shoot together. We as instinctive shooters are a unique group. Keep up the video’s.
Be a great time, everyone has there own way of going about it
I've had my phoenix since April. I've tried numerous setups and shooting techniques. Your methodology is great. I shoot best 3 under, bow canted, while bringing my eye just over the top of the arrow looking down it. Focus on target adjust for distance and let her fly. I have used the QAD rest, the flipper rests, and the whisker biscuit (with 15 degrees cut out of it).I am sticking with the whisker biscuit b/c the arrow flight is good and it makes the least noise. The whisker biscuit does chew up feathers a bit. Had an old guy at the archery shop tell me to wrap the front part of the feathers in B50 to make a sort of ramp. I'm still experimenting , don't know yet if it will make feathers last a bit longer but in a week or so I will know. Shooting with fingers, I have to keep the bow under 60 lbs or I start to get finger numbness shooting it everyday. Thanks for the videos they really helped me set this thing up and start tinkering and experimenting .
Awesome, good luck
Love your videos mate, honestly its great just to see some footage of people rockin pheonix,s
Thanks
Great bow
I do a lot of hiking and stumping for most of my practice. Targets get boring but practice is practice good video 👍
Thanks, yes I love stump shooting, makes it fun shooting at anything besides your old target for a few hours
I like this method for sure. I'll have me a oneida next year during the summer. I'm done with compound bows. The sights on them now a days runs allmost what a optic would for a rifle Scope. Crazy.
At close range look at the target FIRST and aim instinctively , THEN line up the left and right using the arrow tip from split vision by slightly bringing up the bow from the bottom.
At far range aim with the arrow tip using split vision. This helped me out a lot thanks!
Cool!!
You are clearly way ahead of me shooting without sights. I will offer one idea I seldom see others talk about. When you come to anchor and settle in, with your draw hand, curl your little finger and touch the pad of your thumb with the outermost digit of your little finger. This came from Howard Hill. What it does for some is really allow you to flatten out the draw hand fingers and get the sensation that you are pulling with your back muscles. It may sound weird but it works for some so the reader may want to at least play with it and see what it does for you. Love your videos.
Thanks buddy , yes !! I used to do that and forgot all about it until you just mentioned that, when I get home and do some shooting I gotta get back in that groove, forget little tricks like that in the day to day madness
👍🏻
@@TRIBEDRAKE I want to say again how helpful your videos are. I have followed and envied Tim Wells for 20 years, but the simply will not or cannot share much about how he shoots. He did do a short video, but it was not very informative. It is almost like he doesn't want us to know what he is doing. You, on the other hand, are an open book. I know there are others out there like me that really appreciate what you share. Please let me know if there is anything personally I can do to help you. I have no idea what that may be, but would love to be able to pay back some.
@@mitchellblount4896 thanks buddy, anyone can shoot barebow, its just how much effort you want to put into it
I tied in a fix craw for 20 yards. The point of my arrow is my sight pin. With three fingers under on my craw gaps are small. You are doing a good job with your no bull videos!
Thanks , sounds like your doing great
Almost time to do some grocery shopping 😁
I love your videos, My Onidea Just came in last week and I put through about 100 arrows so far and love it! the no sights shooting is getting better each day! I'm shocked at everyone saying how loud the Onidea bows are, mine is super quiet out of the box. I dropped the draw weight down from 65lbs to 55lbs and its a ton less tiring to shoot now
Thanks buddy, 50-55 lbs is comfortable draw weight, the bow is quiet and smooth and still will Blow through any animal you are hunting. Phoenix isn’t loud, put on some cat whiskers on the string and increase the brace height a little and it’s very quiet
What grain do you shoot im going out to Nebraska for mule deer shooting 70 lbs this fall 29 Inch draw without release. I have 400 grain arrows with a 100 grain tip. Also what mods do you use for long range such as 40-60 yards
G mods and break the tails off
I shoot goldtip 340 with 125 grain point
What poundage do you shoot ? I am thinking of going back to instinctive shooting.
My bow is set at 49.60 lbs so just call it 50, east and graceful and the Oneida packs plenty of energy.
@@TRIBEDRAKE I do appreciate your response!
Great video. I like using the whiffle ball goofballs. I just through them around the yard, or shove sticks in the holes to get them off the ground about the height of a squirrels head.
How do you get your Phoenix so quiet? Maybe the difference is 1st person perception, but it sure seems like yours is quieter than mine.
My brace height is 7"
Use the good ol traditional rubber catwhiskers also,
Make sure your bow is in time, check tiller, brace height and you can also use wool yarn and wrap your string where it contacts the limb if you cant get it to what ur looking for.
@@TRIBEDRAKE Thanks for the reply. I'm going to go to work on this thing.
Great videos. I shoot recurves and reflex deflex bows but have always liked the Oneidas bows
Thanks, I was the same way and I got an Oneida and glad I did.
I'd love to see a video on how the Oneida pulls like a recurve. If you shooting a 50 pound Oneida at what point in the draw does it break over or the cams take over? Where ever it breaks what would your pull weight be right before it let off? I'm a recurve shooter but due to old age(68) and neck/shoulder problems I am interested in this bow. I have a compound but all the draw force is on the front end and I just can't handle 50 pounds. I shoot a 47# Bob Lee. I'm enjoying your down to earth videos.
Hey! What size oneida have you got? Is is medium or long? What is the draw length range??
This video was from last year, I now shoot a short, it maxes out at what I call 28” but the tag on the limb says 27.5 ..
in the video that was a long I was shooting, but only drawing it 28”
@@TRIBEDRAKE Do you know what the draw length range of medium one??
@@greenhoodedvigilante458 up to 29”
Oneida eagle bows website will tell you everything about the bow specs
I recently bought two older Oneida bows on ebay. An eagle and eagle aero force x80. Ive always preferred to shoot bows instinctive , three fingers under although I do have some bows with sights. Great video. What is the quiver you have mounted on your bow?
Super quiver not made anymore
@TRIBEDRAKE Of course not. Story of my life, I see something cool I like and its always made of Unobtainium and no longer available on planet Earth lol. Thanks for the reply anyway 🙂 👍
@@kaylamarie8309 well, if I ever can figure out how to manufacture my own, then they will be available
@TRIBEDRAKE well if that ever happens, be sure to remember your little youtube friend Kayla, lol.
@@kaylamarie8309 sure thing , lots people are wanting a completely offensive,illegal, high capacity quiver lately 😁. I got ideas it’s just putting them to good use
Is that bottom land camo on that bow ? I been thinking of buying a phenix
Yep it is
Phoenix is my favorite
@@TRIBEDRAKE I love hunting with and shooting my recurves so I been wanting to get one. Did you have that bow dipped in bottom land camo ? Also I live not to far from honey creek archery you said that guy was good with lever bows right ? Do they sell phoenix
@@cameronbragg3612 I payed extra to have it dipped at Oneida when I first bought it, Jacob At honey creek may have a Phoenix for sale there, I’ve never been there myself but have talked to him quite a bit, don’t hesitate to go there if you are interested, I know he will help you out.
Ur fingers must be built up to really tough. Shooting without a glove or tab must have taken a while to get used to. Mine get a little numb after a couple hrs shooting with a tab. But as long as I get to shoot. RIGHT?
My fingers have been punished and are use to it now, but it’s from thousands of arrows that will make them tough
I am right handed and left eye dominant do think I can shoot with out sights
You can do anything u put your mind to
Good job bro.keep on rockin.wait next from you.
Thanks buddy, got a new computer coming cause my other one crashed, then I can make some more videos
What kind of arrow rest do you use?
Nap centerest
I want an Oneida bad. But I can’t find anywhere close that I can shoot one before purchasing.
I couldn’t try one any where I live, I just ordered one
Great video dude. Barebow shootn takes practice. I've learned to float my arrow in my perephial just like my sights on my tournament bow. Seems to help my consistency.
Yep , split vision but somedays it's still not easy 😁
Thanks
Out of interest, what is your point on distance with this setup? Thankyou
Same as the other onr
what are you using for an arrow rest?
Nap flipper centerest
You still like better than no cam?
Yep, oneida all the way
How do you make up for spine weakness shooting a longer arrow?
I shoot 300 spine goldtip, 125 grains up front. My nocam likes a 400 spine and 125 grain up front both with nearly a full length arrow, I shot a shorter arrow at one point and put 230 grains up front
@@TRIBEDRAKE thanks for the info
Have Phoenix in mail just to try it out. I mainly shoot traditional longbows. Awesome videos and awesome shooting. Had to subscribe “Vern is back there licking his nuts” 😂😂😂😂
Keep it original!
Thanks buddy, he’s a bag licker for sure 🤣
I shot a Navajo longbow for years, sold it to a guy in texas
@@TRIBEDRAKE i have 8 different longbows most of them custom made. Been shooting them for about 7-8 years....Oneida something different to try...
@@alexcup478 yes you wouldn’t be disappointed, I used to shoot a custom Navajo long bow for years,
Not a criticism, just an observation, you are dropping your bow arm pretty significantly at the moment of release.
🧐
Where did you get that quiver?
@@bradydishman4568 not made anymore
Had it a long time
I can’t find a adjustable flipper like you have
eBay, Amazon, it straight from new archery products
Nap centerest
Where can I get a Phoenix in bottomland print like that?
Have one dipped
I kant my bow would the onieda be ok to kant?..
Buddy you can cant any bow, these oneida bows can be shot which ever way u desire. U wont be disappointed
@@TRIBEDRAKE yeah I was watching a video from Steven Hann of Archery Supplies he mentioned that its not real accurate if you kant probably for him then because he shoots straight riser cool mate ill definitely get one
@@stephenbrooksby4466 my bow has a slight cant but not much, I can lay it over and shoot it good but dont really feel right to me, I would say do whatever feels right to you
@@TRIBEDRAKE cheers Mate Appreciate your input👍👍
Ever tried a black widow tab.
Nope, used to shoot tabs and gloves, don't wanna mess with having anything else
@@TRIBEDRAKE The BW he's talking about is very thin and slides off the string like buttah
Ordersed Mathews Avail 3.9 pounds , 50 lb limbs super smooth draw, 30” axle to axle 3 under dead in the hand. Sitka Elevated Camo gonna be sweet
Awesome viedo I shoot split not sites or release
Thank You!
Christ Bless!
Thanks
Just pick
A spot and shoot. I’ve never used bow sights. It feels unnatural.
I remember the Oneida Eagle bows from the 80’s I always wanted to shoot one.
Yes...it's called INSTINCTIVE dude...
Us TRAD guys do it all the time
Ya , no shit
I shot trad for over ten years prior
"Nice and creative Videos，I can see A lot of thought has been put into the content and editing of the video， This is really my favorite channel.:) .🌴🌴🌴excellent 👍👌👍👌👍 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 🌴🌴🌴 " Hastings Oswego 2021
Ordered
That arrow hit nearly after you shot, it would've took a second for it to have been 50. Get outta here bud
Are u looking for attention or what? Or maybe your ears were not operating correctly while listening to the words
"lets say we are out there at 50 yards" is not the same as "i am at 50 yards." its called a hypothetical for explanation purposes. "get outta here bud"
you make good family hunting vids....why mix this crap in???
What’s crap about it? You know what I hate about RUclips is that when someone don’t like something they can’t just shut up and move on, just gotta negatively make a comment, if you don’t like it, don’t watch it. Plain common sense
If you try he will bite you
What arrow rest are you using?
NAP flipper center rest