Really loving these chats. I was almost one of the mould making /3D printing guys for GW, but couldn’t do the shift patterns. Every time I talk about how the process is done it has always attracted hate from people who insist GW don’t dish out resin minis to be painted, etc. The more insight and education that can reach the masses about the miniature industry the better.
Me: "Oh, it's the funny British potty mouths, I can keep them on the stereo, the little one doesn't understand a word they say." Peachy: "...are looking *Kacke*" I now have a *very* excited 4-year-old. Lotsa love from Krautland.
We used to call the old metal crusader Schrödinger's land raider because you would put it in a case and would never know if it would come out assembled or not
One of the great things about The Painting Phase is that you point stuff out and challenge issues in a respectful manner without resorting to some of the methods other creators use
Darran Latham I feel pushed my painting to a much higher level. I loved his painting videos on RUclips. Shame he had to take them down because it was alway interesting to see his approach to shading and color usage.
Not just you. It seemed to have started when they switched to the SHURE mic. Since then, I could swear all of them (i.e. podcasts) have weird audio distortion, especially so when there are concurrent voice input. For some reason, it's more jarring in this one though. Doesn't take away from the quality of the content, but it's hard to listen to at times unfortunately.
The big issue with the D&D thing wasn't so much fans not being able to monetise content as easily, but more the part that Wizards/Hasbro wanted to force every single person or company publishing content using the existing agreement (which they had promised was irrevocable) to switch to the new one, which would give Wizards of the Coast "nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, sub-licensable, royalty-free license" to take anything published and reuse it without compensation or acknowledgement.
I believe the original Citadel paints were made for GW by a company called Coat d'Arms. This was when they were in the tall round pots with names like Skull White, Chaos Black, Goblin Green, Bad Moon Yellow etc. After Citadel went with a new manufacturer and changed all the colour names, Coat d'Arms continued making them for their own range and you can still buy them to this day.
No, the manufacturer is HMG Paints. They supply Coat D’Arms, Privateer Press P3 Paints, and Foundry Paints. CDA has the same/similar names as it’s the result of them basically asking HMG to keep making the GW line under a new name when GW switched suppliers.
Really glad that you brought up that some (all?) of the current Citadel paints have changed over the years, I thought I was going mad. Mephiston Red has definitely changed between 2019 and 2022 - the newer pots I've had are considerably brighter than the originals.
Love having the insider insight from you lot. Being generally pleasant to have natter on is a bonus! Can't deny I'm getting nervous about my Nuln and Seraphim Sepia running low.
Love how Geoff was just here, building a model for fuck all. And it evolved into a 50 minute conversation. Great podcast ya'll. Definitely a fantastic podcast for the hobby.
Great conversation guys - really love Geoff's take on how 3D printing could work in a Workshop. 3D printing is still very much a 'rapid prototyping' system, but won't be long til it moves on to a point where it will be entirely possible to mass produce or print on demand like this. Some boutique third party outlets are already doing this. I work in 3D scanning and printing at the moment, and it's got amazing potential in my specialism in museums/archaeology etc, but it's not yet there for hard commercial use.
Love your guys shows! I usually paint when I listen to podcasts, but whenever I try with you guys I just stop and give my full attention. I've got to say though, the metal Hive Tyrant was the bane of my existence when I was 11. Me and my dad eventually got it to stay together after months of trying. And then the plastic kit came out soon after
I should mentioned the tyrant too. I had it quite early into the hobby and had never put a metal mini that big together before. I was very close to seeing if it’s wings actually worked.
Ah guys, I love your work! One of the things I'm looking forward to at the beginning of the week! Also - turning on the subtitles is hillarious. At a certain point it just gives up 😀
I adore the fact anyone who lives outside of the UK is going to find this intro nigh impenetrable. That being said everyone should check out that German Ninja Turtle pickle advert.
This is 100% the fishermans friends episode, "there once was a vod, called the painting phase, it'll entertain you for many a day... o yey, the painting phase.....etc etc" Another great episode! Finecast... where the Eldar range still lives!!
I adore this format for you guys, this is my favorite thing to listen to each week! I don’t know if it’s possible to submit an idea for a topic for you guys to discuss, but I would love to learn your and Peachy’s take on GW’s IP crack down on RUclips!
@@thepaintingphase I figured it might be! Frankly, I could listen to you talk about the contents of a cereal box, so, please, don’t listen to me too closely. You guys are killing it!
Another great chat gents. Lots of interesting topics and insights. I also love the individual takes on things too. My main take from this is how wholesome Peachy's GW store must have been. We would do the same thing with known-lossing faulty or problematic kits for people and I was known to chuck in some free glue and bits when Little Johnny had used all his pocket money on that big tank kit. Happy days.
Sounds like you definitely supplied folks with awesome customer service. And that’s awesome that throw in those little extras for the pocket money kids 👍
I'm normally paint range-agnostic, if GW makes a good version of a color,I use it. Especially their cold greys (Russ Grey, Dark Reaper, Thunderhawk Blue etc, superb). Rakarth Flesh and Pallid Wych Flesh are so handy, but they have never been any consistency other than mud lol
My purchase of black legion contrast after one of the videos on here was a great choice, that has such good coverage and I use it almost all the time for anything black now.
You've commented in the past about how GW have been numpties for not selling specific shoulder pads but also banning third party sellers. They'd be really smart to sell standard marines (for instance) but you could go in & order Blood Angels shoulder pads & heads to convert the standard into the non standard & the staff member would go "Sure thing, do you want to wait in our coffee shop & I'll get right on that for you?"
@@redscope897 that's a lot of assumptions about my thought process there... 1) you wouldn't necessarily need every store to carry this service 2) chemical training is pretty simple, they already have to do this for cleaning products (of they're following H&S regulations) 3) a company as large as Gdub's could procure a fair whack of 3D printers from one of the big companies AND bag a load of training off them if they were savvy enough to partner up with them & let that company say "Official printer for GW accessories"
@@redscope897 didn't call them numpties for not having it, but for banning 3rd party products at official events/stores. TBF I'd already considered the notion of using their factory for made to order stuff but that would require them to either a) use one of their pre-existing large scale machines (not practical given the high diversity of product) or b) buy in additional machinery & staff/training. But having production capacity spread around they alleviate pressure on central production & also supply a more customer centric service (something Gdub's used to value, probably still do), it's also a pretty decent ISP for them, name another large scale mini manufacturer that does it...
@@redscope897 I am so pleased to see someone else actually consider the business aspect of this, because the idea of EVERY store having a 3D printer while also serving you coffee while you wait is insane. What was the last count, 300 stores in the world? Majority of them also being, sadly, one-person operations. Hell I live Down Under and we have 50 stores alone. I cannot imagine the upkeep on everything you mentioned on top of the high electricity costs, troubleshooting, etc. I genuinely cannot understand people who think ideas like this are totally viable with minimal hiccups. I'd even hazard to say if GW tried this now, the failure of it would carry waaaaay more bad press than any good will they could possibly establish.
Yess Peachy!! It’s not just me then! I had a pot of Rakarth flesh that was amazing! It covered absolutely beautifully but sadly it ran out so I replaced it and what I got was no where near the same as before. It was completely separated, a different tone of colour and when I used it, it would separate on my palette and on the miniature! I had to repaint the skin on one of my crimson court vampires a completely different skin tone because it was so horrible! So now I have have two vampires with old rakarth flesh skin tone and one with tallarn flesh which Is an old foundation paint as you can literally paint over anything with it 😅
For a perfect, smooth version of Rakarth you can mix Gorthor Brown/Baneblade Brown/Administratum Grey/White 1:2:3:1. Gets you a colour match and it also has not shit coverage 👍
As a touch on the note with Death Guard use of vehicles at 4:00, the Proteus and Phobos (common 40k pattern) patterns of Land Raiders were both used during the Crusade/Heresy, so their use in 40k makes sense. I do like the idea of using the Proteus Land Raiders and Deimos Rhinos with Chaos forces (and loyalist too)
Have you ever read Imperial Armour 13 (War Machines of Chaos) - it's very much a part of the setting these things are used by the traitors across time :)
While I think 3D printing is still a long way off from being an everyday thing for most hobbyists, there's still an initial learning curve to overcome but it is becoming just another creative tool rather than the "hobby in it's own right" it was say only 2yrs ago. To the point that I would be very surprised if it wasn't being viewed as an existential threat to GW's current business model. One thing I could potentially see them doing is possibly having ForgeWorld supplementing with or even transition away from cast-resin products to become more of a print-on-demand style service.
The old metal Balrog was my first ever kit. The guy at the local GW encouraged me to get it cause it was super powerful. I was 14. So, I built it and just dealt with the gaps everywhere cause I had no green stuff skills! Haha Corax white spray is horrendous in Australia, I think it's something to do with the humidity. The off-whites are also bad, I ended up having to put fishing sinkers in all the pots to constantly shake them like spray paints. Come to think of it, the fishing sinkers suit the theme of this video...
Rakarth flesh / Denab stone was amazing when it was foundation paint, not saying they where all great but that one was you haven't known hell until you've had to build multiple dwarf warmachines to put together, that DAKKA axe thrower
I've found recently several citadel paints I've picked up have been watery. No matter how much I shake the pot or stir it the paint is still like water. So I've started to pick up Vallejo when I need a replacement.
for resin and metal models, superglue activator changed my life! I use the Bob Smith Industries stuff but you can get aerosol activators from places like screwfix. Also, baking soda (bicarb in the UK) is great as a gap filler on resin when it's mixed with superglue.
Reminds me of duncans story around the creation of barak nar burgundy. This paint was created off themix he used to paint barak nar kharadron in AoS....and how the colour was totally different to what GW said it was and they eventually created thenew paint from his mix. I hear they also use 3ups in some detail shots.
Really enjoy these wide ranging talks. : ) The Stars Wars cosplayers also raised the prices and increased the rarity on C96 "broomhandle" Mausers years ago. Apparently, these guns used to be reasonably priced. But not after Han Solo!
The most terrifying metal kit that a young customer once brought in was Zachariah The Everliving. It was a skinny zombie dragon with a top heavy mount. The ankles were the key contact point and could barely fit a pin. It was hell.
In the Action Man scale there are some manufacturers who make short runs of figures complete with all the equipment. Some are based on Movie actors in particular rolls. And some are just big historical models, GW, ACW, Westerns.
Another great chinwag! Love these vids - they're the perfect accompaniment for when I'm having a bit of supper or even a late night snack with a glass of milk! But I want to take the opportunity too ask, because I'm eagerly awaiting your Necromunda content - are you guys planning to share any videos of how you go about painting your gangs? If not, would you consider it? I'd love to see how you guys go about it, especially Geoff's Delaque as I'm yet to paint mine!
I remember doing some kind of tour of Warhammer World (or possibly at a Games Day) as a kid where they explained some of the process for printing the 'red glass' miniature parts to make the molds, way before consumer-grade 3D printing was possible. It was something involving shining lasers through a liquid which caused it to harden at the points where they intersected. Seemed like magic at the time, too. Interesting to hear that the process seems not to have changed much in what must be towards 20 years.
Absolutely love the pod! I have a question for Geoff. Has the amount of nerdy Warhammer types coming in to your barber shop increased since starting the podcast? 😁
Adding airbrush thinner and sometimes some flow improver can "fix" the newer rakarth flesh et al to make them smoother again. It will however make it thinner
The Warbringer kit from Adeptus Titanicus was brilliant because all the armor panels that could be confused had molded RF, RR, RI, RO for Different Right/Left Front/Rear/Inside/Outside orientations
I would love to here how the kits go wrong because i put together a box stormcast vanguard figures, the instructions don’t match how the figures are labelled. And on the how GW staffers would help you with stuff, I had a green knight Warhammer figure that i had no idea how to assemble and a chap showed me to pin the model.
I print all my attachments, 15mm ww2 tanks etc. As long as the CAD design is done properly, with new printers the products are SMOOTH. GW 100% prints and it's easy to spot when you do it yourself. All good though, plastic is FAR less effort even now - which is why I don't 3d print armies / units etc just gear.
henry - "he didn't burn down the whole school, the fire damage was limited to one or two classrooms *nervous laughter*" one of the oak boys - "I'll do better next time!" just for you patrick, just caught up with the second season of dungeons and dads and have gotten a friend into it. he just got to the castle fight (I think)
Listening to you talking about the sprues and tooling design and I totally agree. People often say things like "Games Workshop make the best Miniatures in the world" and being honest, they don't. They make excellent Miniatures but I wouldn't say they are the best; I could rattle off a list of miniatures companies that are as good or better when viewed as a finished product. But the tooling of the plastic kits is where they really excel. I would say that Games Workshop's tooling is as good, if not better, than most scale model companies. Maybe only beaten by some of the Gundam kits. The stuff Games Workshop can do as a plastic kit is pretty amazing. On the subject of the GW lawsuit in the USA. The company was Chapterhouse studios and they weren't just making conversion parts, there were entire models for things GW had written in their lore and didn't make miniatures for. And then there were conversion bits as well. Overall, Chapterhouse studios is widely considered to have "won", the judge ruled in favour of Chapterhouse on more counts than for GW. However it was also pretty much a pyrrhic victory as the costs of fighting the lawsuit left Chapterhouse in a significant amount of debt and they went bankrupt not long after the conclusion of the lawsuit. There were quite a lot of lessons learned by GW in the wake of that and they either rushed out a lot of really poor Miniatures to plug the gaps or removed models from various codices. They got themselves, fairly quickly, into a position where all units described in the rules had models
I have a colour scheme that requires my shades to cover the whole mini and make it just the right kinda dirty…. The new shades don’t do this and it annoys me a lot
On the 3d printing thing. 3 words as a Tau player. Cyclic ion blasters. Why have the option of weapon load outs (and multiple ones at that) for weapons that aren’t in the box.
That's Willrow Hood and the "Running of the Hoods" with regards to the dude in Empire with the Ice Cream maker. (Just in case no-one else has put it in the comments)
@@thepaintingphase I think employing someone that wears the same clothes is probably better. Their arm would just appear in every episode but it would have the appearance of it being Pat's. It's the only logical thing to do.
That 1:6 Cadian was a Kickstarter campaign. It seems like a lot of people got screwed over and didnt get their figures in the end. And those that did said the quality wasn't great.
Games Workshop may seem slow to pick up technology, or at least appear too, but I would stake my right nut on the fact that they have and are investigating how to best use technology to earn the best financial return from it when they eventually do make the leap.
I have a pot of naggaroth night from day 1 of the range and it is straught up 1 stage darker. Then theres balthasar gold thats now red/copper compaired to the old pots
Yeah there’s quite a few come to think of it, not ideal when it’s been pitched as a consistent paint range that and I quote, ‘if you paint an army and add miniatures into your army next week or 20yrs from now they will still match’ hmm not if you keep changing the tone
Yeah we had some issues, found the offending part and threw it in the bin. Monday's release we're back to sounding normal again thankfully. Invested in a new recorder and it's solved the problem.
For what it's worth, the 40k range of rhinos, predators and land raiders are all Mars pattern variants which the legions all had access to during the Great Crusade. So it ultimately just comes down to an aesthetic choice.
I built (and still have) the old LR Crusader as a kid and agree with the bolters but it was a real achievement once it was done as a 12 year old. I’ve built a few FW models over the years but the hardest model I came across that taught me pinning etc was the og metal nightbringer
we know they are 3d printing prototypes. you can see layer lines on studio painted models :) got to be blind to miss those lines on roboute guilliman armour :P
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This has quickly became my favorite podcast to listen to.
Same
i got to admit i am enjoying it too
For real, the boys are like the Tabletop Gaming Top gear!!
Same!
@@someirishguy1662 its the turtle neck.
Really loving these chats. I was almost one of the mould making /3D printing guys for GW, but couldn’t do the shift patterns. Every time I talk about how the process is done it has always attracted hate from people who insist GW don’t dish out resin minis to be painted, etc. The more insight and education that can reach the masses about the miniature industry the better.
It's a minor thing, but I love how Geoff sits there building models at the same time 😊
Feels like we are sitting at a hobby store hanging with friends
Me: "Oh, it's the funny British potty mouths, I can keep them on the stereo, the little one doesn't understand a word they say."
Peachy: "...are looking *Kacke*"
I now have a *very* excited 4-year-old.
Lotsa love from Krautland.
Hahaha! Wúnderbar 😂😂😂
We used to call the old metal crusader Schrödinger's land raider because you would put it in a case and would never know if it would come out assembled or not
Genius!
One of the great things about The Painting Phase is that you point stuff out and challenge issues in a respectful manner without resorting to some of the methods other creators use
We try! We all love the hobby so don't want to complain about gw every week, that would get really tiring really quickly.
Darran Latham I feel pushed my painting to a much higher level. I loved his painting videos on RUclips. Shame he had to take them down because it was alway interesting to see his approach to shading and color usage.
I love the vibe of Geoff clipping, sanding and assembling. It's very soothing.
Definitely one of my favourite podcasts! The whole dynamic of you guys is great! Really love the knowledge you are sharing! Class entertainers! 🎉
Awesome! Thank you!
Is it just me or is the audio a bit weird on this one? Quickly becoming one of my favourite podcasts too, keep it up guys!
Not just you. It seemed to have started when they switched to the SHURE mic. Since then, I could swear all of them (i.e. podcasts) have weird audio distortion, especially so when there are concurrent voice input. For some reason, it's more jarring in this one though. Doesn't take away from the quality of the content, but it's hard to listen to at times unfortunately.
yeah there is a definite distortion early on
Heh thought it was just me, it almost sounds like it speeds up and down in between words
yep the audio is not good on this one unfortunately
@@mathieuboe9128 Yes it does seem to be when people are talking at the same time. Sounds OK on a speaker (Switch) but headphones I can hear it
The big issue with the D&D thing wasn't so much fans not being able to monetise content as easily, but more the part that Wizards/Hasbro wanted to force every single person or company publishing content using the existing agreement (which they had promised was irrevocable) to switch to the new one, which would give Wizards of the Coast "nonexclusive, perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, sub-licensable, royalty-free license" to take anything published and reuse it without compensation or acknowledgement.
Best miniature painting podcast out there. Great stuff
I believe the original Citadel paints were made for GW by a company called Coat d'Arms. This was when they were in the tall round pots with names like Skull White, Chaos Black, Goblin Green, Bad Moon Yellow etc. After Citadel went with a new manufacturer and changed all the colour names, Coat d'Arms continued making them for their own range and you can still buy them to this day.
No, the manufacturer is HMG Paints. They supply Coat D’Arms, Privateer Press P3 Paints, and Foundry Paints.
CDA has the same/similar names as it’s the result of them basically asking HMG to keep making the GW line under a new name when GW switched suppliers.
Really glad that you brought up that some (all?) of the current Citadel paints have changed over the years, I thought I was going mad. Mephiston Red has definitely changed between 2019 and 2022 - the newer pots I've had are considerably brighter than the originals.
Love having the insider insight from you lot. Being generally pleasant to have natter on is a bonus!
Can't deny I'm getting nervous about my Nuln and Seraphim Sepia running low.
Love how Geoff was just here, building a model for fuck all. And it evolved into a 50 minute conversation.
Great podcast ya'll. Definitely a fantastic podcast for the hobby.
Great conversation guys - really love Geoff's take on how 3D printing could work in a Workshop.
3D printing is still very much a 'rapid prototyping' system, but won't be long til it moves on to a point where it will be entirely possible to mass produce or print on demand like this. Some boutique third party outlets are already doing this.
I work in 3D scanning and printing at the moment, and it's got amazing potential in my specialism in museums/archaeology etc, but it's not yet there for hard commercial use.
Easily my favourite podcast - feels like hanging with mates down the pub 👍
I signed up a patroen for these ace podcasts.
Thanks Doc! You’re head is in the same zone as ours!
Loving these podcast, a real look behind the curtain of GW. Watched all of the Peachy ones over the weekend.
Sweet! Goodness though you must of gotten sick and tired of our voices lol
@@thepaintingphase not at all, it's great background chat whilst painting. Look forward to more, especially this Necromunda campaign.
those jumpers look so comfy! another great listen
Love your guys shows! I usually paint when I listen to podcasts, but whenever I try with you guys I just stop and give my full attention.
I've got to say though, the metal Hive Tyrant was the bane of my existence when I was 11. Me and my dad eventually got it to stay together after months of trying. And then the plastic kit came out soon after
I should mentioned the tyrant too. I had it quite early into the hobby and had never put a metal mini that big together before. I was very close to seeing if it’s wings actually worked.
@@thepaintingphase we tried arldite several times, it just never seemed to stay! To this day I have absolutely no idea how it finally stuck together
These podcasts make the night shift alot more enjoyable amazing work lads
I had to build and paint the Balrog with the metal wings for the store display, those wings nearly went out the door on several occasions
Ah guys, I love your work! One of the things I'm looking forward to at the beginning of the week! Also - turning on the subtitles is hillarious. At a certain point it just gives up 😀
Lol. I love the idea of breaking YT - Geoff
I adore the fact anyone who lives outside of the UK is going to find this intro nigh impenetrable.
That being said everyone should check out that German Ninja Turtle pickle advert.
YES PEACHY. I felt like a crazy person about Rakarth! I used to love it, but my last pot was terrible!
Two Thin Coats - Griffon Claw seems to work a treat! Plus it's in a dropper bottle!
Brilliant as always! These video podcasts have become the highlight of my RUclips week!
😍😍😍 awesome!
Another awesome dive into the behind-scenes of the hobby, 👏.
This is 100% the fishermans friends episode, "there once was a vod, called the painting phase, it'll entertain you for many a day... o yey, the painting phase.....etc etc" Another great episode! Finecast... where the Eldar range still lives!!
You Sir, are a Prince amongst Men!
I adore this format for you guys, this is my favorite thing to listen to each week! I don’t know if it’s possible to submit an idea for a topic for you guys to discuss, but I would love to learn your and Peachy’s take on GW’s IP crack down on RUclips!
That's a great idea!
@@thepaintingphase I figured it might be! Frankly, I could listen to you talk about the contents of a cereal box, so, please, don’t listen to me too closely. You guys are killing it!
Another great chat gents. Lots of interesting topics and insights. I also love the individual takes on things too. My main take from this is how wholesome Peachy's GW store must have been. We would do the same thing with known-lossing faulty or problematic kits for people and I was known to chuck in some free glue and bits when Little Johnny had used all his pocket money on that big tank kit. Happy days.
Sounds like you definitely supplied folks with awesome customer service. And that’s awesome that throw in those little extras for the pocket money kids 👍
I'm normally paint range-agnostic, if GW makes a good version of a color,I use it. Especially their cold greys (Russ Grey, Dark Reaper, Thunderhawk Blue etc, superb). Rakarth Flesh and Pallid Wych Flesh are so handy, but they have never been any consistency other than mud lol
The gold paints are top notch, good job I collect Custodes 🤣
My purchase of black legion contrast after one of the videos on here was a great choice, that has such good coverage and I use it almost all the time for anything black now.
Waited all week for another banging copulation with the lads!
Can’t stop listening to these podcasts, these 3 lads together are just brilliant, great job guys
😍😍😍 thanks, we do have too much fun lol
😍😍😍 thanks, we do have too much fun lol
Thanks for getting me through the first hour and half of a long day of denture making 🍻
Another great chat and banter.
Our pleasure! 😍
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The best advert ever was for Tennent's Lager in the late 90s/ early 2000s: McAndrews Scottish Bar, Bangkok, with the beautiful barmaids Rab and Rory.
You've commented in the past about how GW have been numpties for not selling specific shoulder pads but also banning third party sellers. They'd be really smart to sell standard marines (for instance) but you could go in & order Blood Angels shoulder pads & heads to convert the standard into the non standard & the staff member would go "Sure thing, do you want to wait in our coffee shop & I'll get right on that for you?"
You’re bang on!
@@redscope897 that's a lot of assumptions about my thought process there...
1) you wouldn't necessarily need every store to carry this service
2) chemical training is pretty simple, they already have to do this for cleaning products (of they're following H&S regulations)
3) a company as large as Gdub's could procure a fair whack of 3D printers from one of the big companies AND bag a load of training off them if they were savvy enough to partner up with them & let that company say "Official printer for GW accessories"
@@redscope897 didn't call them numpties for not having it, but for banning 3rd party products at official events/stores. TBF I'd already considered the notion of using their factory for made to order stuff but that would require them to either a) use one of their pre-existing large scale machines (not practical given the high diversity of product) or b) buy in additional machinery & staff/training.
But having production capacity spread around they alleviate pressure on central production & also supply a more customer centric service (something Gdub's used to value, probably still do), it's also a pretty decent ISP for them, name another large scale mini manufacturer that does it...
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@@redscope897 I am so pleased to see someone else actually consider the business aspect of this, because the idea of EVERY store having a 3D printer while also serving you coffee while you wait is insane. What was the last count, 300 stores in the world? Majority of them also being, sadly, one-person operations. Hell I live Down Under and we have 50 stores alone. I cannot imagine the upkeep on everything you mentioned on top of the high electricity costs, troubleshooting, etc. I genuinely cannot understand people who think ideas like this are totally viable with minimal hiccups. I'd even hazard to say if GW tried this now, the failure of it would carry waaaaay more bad press than any good will they could possibly establish.
Yess Peachy!! It’s not just me then! I had a pot of Rakarth flesh that was amazing! It covered absolutely beautifully but sadly it ran out so I replaced it and what I got was no where near the same as before. It was completely separated, a different tone of colour and when I used it, it would separate on my palette and on the miniature! I had to repaint the skin on one of my crimson court vampires a completely different skin tone because it was so horrible! So now I have have two vampires with old rakarth flesh skin tone and one with tallarn flesh which Is an old foundation paint as you can literally paint over anything with it 😅
For a perfect, smooth version of Rakarth you can mix Gorthor Brown/Baneblade Brown/Administratum Grey/White 1:2:3:1. Gets you a colour match and it also has not shit coverage 👍
As a touch on the note with Death Guard use of vehicles at 4:00, the Proteus and Phobos (common 40k pattern) patterns of Land Raiders were both used during the Crusade/Heresy, so their use in 40k makes sense.
I do like the idea of using the Proteus Land Raiders and Deimos Rhinos with Chaos forces (and loyalist too)
Same, love the idea of them being ‘preserved’ in the Eye of Terror since the heresy
Have you ever read Imperial Armour 13 (War Machines of Chaos) - it's very much a part of the setting these things are used by the traitors across time :)
While I think 3D printing is still a long way off from being an everyday thing for most hobbyists, there's still an initial learning curve to overcome but it is becoming just another creative tool rather than the "hobby in it's own right" it was say only 2yrs ago. To the point that I would be very surprised if it wasn't being viewed as an existential threat to GW's current business model. One thing I could potentially see them doing is possibly having ForgeWorld supplementing with or even transition away from cast-resin products to become more of a print-on-demand style service.
The old metal Balrog was my first ever kit. The guy at the local GW encouraged me to get it cause it was super powerful. I was 14. So, I built it and just dealt with the gaps everywhere cause I had no green stuff skills! Haha
Corax white spray is horrendous in Australia, I think it's something to do with the humidity. The off-whites are also bad, I ended up having to put fishing sinkers in all the pots to constantly shake them like spray paints.
Come to think of it, the fishing sinkers suit the theme of this video...
Rakarth flesh / Denab stone was amazing when it was foundation paint, not saying they where all great but that one was
you haven't known hell until you've had to build multiple dwarf warmachines to put together, that DAKKA axe thrower
still looking for that R186 SIGNAL BOX, or a book on fly fishing by J.R. HARTLEY
Great show gents. Brilliant to listen to while painting.
I’m loving this type of video! It’s quickly becoming something that I crave more of :) ever thought of releasing it as an actual podcast? :)
We're up on Spotify!
@@thepaintingphase amazing!!! I’ll get it up! :D
10:20 hwo are they talking about? Ninjon?
Yes, we were talking about Ninjon.
This was a great episode of virtual my weekly local GW visit XD
Another great podcast. Cuppa tea, biscuits, cutting some spru. Perfect.
Easily the best podcast for geeks keep up the great work 👍🏻
Very Kind, cheers!
I've found recently several citadel paints I've picked up have been watery. No matter how much I shake the pot or stir it the paint is still like water. So I've started to pick up Vallejo when I need a replacement.
Yeah it does seem to be a more regular thing, and if it’s not sorted out, folks are just gonna go elsewhere
for resin and metal models, superglue activator changed my life! I use the Bob Smith Industries stuff but you can get aerosol activators from places like screwfix. Also, baking soda (bicarb in the UK) is great as a gap filler on resin when it's mixed with superglue.
25:20 tyranid gargoyles. Why were they one of the few metal mods I had on flying stand
Everytime I watch a vid the subs just keep going up 😀😀 you guys deserve it! Topcast
Thanks so much!! 😍😍😍
@@thepaintingphase your welcome 😀
Reminds me of duncans story around the creation of barak nar burgundy. This paint was created off themix he used to paint barak nar kharadron in AoS....and how the colour was totally different to what GW said it was and they eventually created thenew paint from his mix. I hear they also use 3ups in some detail shots.
Really enjoy these wide ranging talks. : )
The Stars Wars cosplayers also raised the prices and increased the rarity on C96 "broomhandle" Mausers years ago. Apparently, these guns used to be reasonably priced. But not after Han Solo!
Kinda wished the Spotify version would be up at the same time. Wonderful podcast to listen to.
Love, these videos, keep up the good work!
The most terrifying metal kit that a young customer once brought in was Zachariah The Everliving. It was a skinny zombie dragon with a top heavy mount. The ankles were the key contact point and could barely fit a pin. It was hell.
I love hearing about hellish models.
In the Action Man scale there are some manufacturers who make short runs of figures complete with all the equipment. Some are based on Movie actors in particular rolls. And some are just big historical models, GW, ACW, Westerns.
Love the chat shows
Oh, that intro was on point Peachy, that looks a cosy jumper, though
For Peachy Workshop is the Hotel California :D
Another great chinwag! Love these vids - they're the perfect accompaniment for when I'm having a bit of supper or even a late night snack with a glass of milk! But I want to take the opportunity too ask, because I'm eagerly awaiting your Necromunda content - are you guys planning to share any videos of how you go about painting your gangs? If not, would you consider it? I'd love to see how you guys go about it, especially Geoff's Delaque as I'm yet to paint mine!
That sounds like a great idea. I’ll mention it to the crew - Geoff
I remember doing some kind of tour of Warhammer World (or possibly at a Games Day) as a kid where they explained some of the process for printing the 'red glass' miniature parts to make the molds, way before consumer-grade 3D printing was possible. It was something involving shining lasers through a liquid which caused it to harden at the points where they intersected. Seemed like magic at the time, too. Interesting to hear that the process seems not to have changed much in what must be towards 20 years.
I was told this was a North Sea fishing podcast. While disappointed, I am also pleased.
Absolutely love the pod! I have a question for Geoff. Has the amount of nerdy Warhammer types coming in to your barber shop increased since starting the podcast? 😁
Yes I have had three really cool guys come in. Nerdy Barbers maybe a niche service going forward!
Adding airbrush thinner and sometimes some flow improver can "fix" the newer rakarth flesh et al to make them smoother again. It will however make it thinner
Peachy, you really seem to love LOTR, which is great because so do I :) any chance of some future MESBG miniature painting videos?
The Warbringer kit from Adeptus Titanicus was brilliant because all the armor panels that could be confused had molded RF, RR, RI, RO for Different Right/Left Front/Rear/Inside/Outside orientations
Smart! I like it when they’re super clear like that.
I would love to here how the kits go wrong because i put together a box stormcast vanguard figures, the instructions don’t match how the figures are labelled. And on the how GW staffers would help you with stuff, I had a green knight Warhammer figure that i had no idea how to assemble and a chap showed me to pin the model.
I have used two thin coats by Duncan roads and seam to be a better version of citadel paints
I print all my attachments, 15mm ww2 tanks etc. As long as the CAD design is done properly, with new printers the products are SMOOTH. GW 100% prints and it's easy to spot when you do it yourself. All good though, plastic is FAR less effort even now - which is why I don't 3d print armies / units etc just gear.
Speaking of Darren Latham, I noticed GW seem to have "accidentally" forgotten to put his surname in the article about designing Angron.
And then in that very article, they linked to a different article that did.
henry - "he didn't burn down the whole school, the fire damage was limited to one or two classrooms *nervous laughter*"
one of the oak boys - "I'll do better next time!"
just for you patrick, just caught up with the second season of dungeons and dads and have gotten a friend into it. he just got to the castle fight (I think)
Listening to you talking about the sprues and tooling design and I totally agree. People often say things like "Games Workshop make the best Miniatures in the world" and being honest, they don't. They make excellent Miniatures but I wouldn't say they are the best; I could rattle off a list of miniatures companies that are as good or better when viewed as a finished product. But the tooling of the plastic kits is where they really excel. I would say that Games Workshop's tooling is as good, if not better, than most scale model companies. Maybe only beaten by some of the Gundam kits. The stuff Games Workshop can do as a plastic kit is pretty amazing.
On the subject of the GW lawsuit in the USA. The company was Chapterhouse studios and they weren't just making conversion parts, there were entire models for things GW had written in their lore and didn't make miniatures for. And then there were conversion bits as well. Overall, Chapterhouse studios is widely considered to have "won", the judge ruled in favour of Chapterhouse on more counts than for GW. However it was also pretty much a pyrrhic victory as the costs of fighting the lawsuit left Chapterhouse in a significant amount of debt and they went bankrupt not long after the conclusion of the lawsuit. There were quite a lot of lessons learned by GW in the wake of that and they either rushed out a lot of really poor Miniatures to plug the gaps or removed models from various codices. They got themselves, fairly quickly, into a position where all units described in the rules had models
Another great show guys
Cheers Benny!
The first necron monolith was a beast
I have a colour scheme that requires my shades to cover the whole mini and make it just the right kinda dirty…. The new shades don’t do this and it annoys me a lot
On the 3d printing thing. 3 words as a Tau player. Cyclic ion blasters. Why have the option of weapon load outs (and multiple ones at that) for weapons that aren’t in the box.
Honestly GW, they don’t help themselves!
That's Willrow Hood and the "Running of the Hoods" with regards to the dude in Empire with the Ice Cream maker. (Just in case no-one else has put it in the comments)
The blue-capped gorilla glue may not be available over there, but is really way less frustrating to use that regular super glue.
Definitely the best podcast for hams 😉❤️
😍😍😍 aww Fanks!!!
Someone buy Pat a mic stand for the love of god! 😆
There isn't a table in front of me to put on one that makes sense to sadly. Can we change it to "can someone buy pat a studio" 🤣
@@thepaintingphase get pat a boom arm
@@thepaintingphase Dangle it down from the ceiling!
@@thepaintingphase I think employing someone that wears the same clothes is probably better. Their arm would just appear in every episode but it would have the appearance of it being Pat's. It's the only logical thing to do.
That 1:6 Cadian was a Kickstarter campaign. It seems like a lot of people got screwed over and didnt get their figures in the end. And those that did said the quality wasn't great.
Games Workshop may seem slow to pick up technology, or at least appear too, but I would stake my right nut on the fact that they have and are investigating how to best use technology to earn the best financial return from it when they eventually do make the leap.
I have a pot of naggaroth night from day 1 of the range and it is straught up 1 stage darker. Then theres balthasar gold thats now red/copper compaired to the old pots
Yeah there’s quite a few come to think of it, not ideal when it’s been pitched as a consistent paint range that and I quote, ‘if you paint an army and add miniatures into your army next week or 20yrs from now they will still match’ hmm not if you keep changing the tone
The audio on the past few have been super weird and distorted? not sure why but it's the same on youtube and spotify, and on my phone as well.
Yeah we had some issues, found the offending part and threw it in the bin. Monday's release we're back to sounding normal again thankfully. Invested in a new recorder and it's solved the problem.
For what it's worth, the 40k range of rhinos, predators and land raiders are all Mars pattern variants which the legions all had access to during the Great Crusade. So it ultimately just comes down to an aesthetic choice.
I’ve also bought a HH Rhino.
@@thepaintingphase also totally fair! Deimos rhinos do look very cool.
I built (and still have) the old LR Crusader as a kid and agree with the bolters but it was a real achievement once it was done as a 12 year old. I’ve built a few FW models over the years but the hardest model I came across that taught me pinning etc was the og metal nightbringer
The microphone is growing a head with glasses and a red beard.
So cool. Lol
When Peachy put the sides of the Armoured vehicle on his head i had flashbacks of the “Rylans” from “The Last Star Fighter” 🤦♂️😂😂😂😂
Hahaha! I get that reference 😂👍
Good replacement for rackarth flesh is Vallejo silver grey 👌🏼 I went to great lengths to find that one 😂 to the edge of madness
I need that yellow tutorial to drop lol. I have lots of Imperial Fists ready to prime and need to know the best color to prime them with haha
Hahaha! Fear not it’s coming soon! 😍👍
we know they are 3d printing prototypes. you can see layer lines on studio painted models :) got to be blind to miss those lines on roboute guilliman armour :P
Games workshop model kits do not come with instructions. They come with vague suggestions on how you build it.
Great videos. This was another banger
Look up Mike’s Carpets for a great advert, he looked like someone had stuck Rod Stewart on a hot wash... he was actually’Mike’ the MD in the ad.
Best description of a person ever…..
Great work as always gents!
“They don’t like it up em!” ✅😂😂
I love the paint talk. Try some Pro Acryl white. It makes White Scar seem like stick deodorant.
😂🤣😂
His name is Jonathan Ferguson at the Royal Armouries.
And he is a prince amongst men!