Chrysler calls this 1/2 tooth timing. The exh Mark overlapping the intake mark. These are semi interference engines. Id be careful letting that cam snap like that I also wouldnt get in the habit of rolling an engine backwards. Alot of tensioners will loose there tenion and allow the cams to roll out of place allowing the valves to contact the pistons.
I have to be honest. I had not idea what I was doing on this job ;) Thankfully it was a friends car which ran perfect after this job until it was in a front end collision :( Thank you for the input, and I will do my best not to spin engines backwards from here on out. :)
I'm so glad you made this video....I have documentation on how to do this, but this video makes it even better...Kudos. What mileage did you guys change the belt out if you can remember, I have a 2004. Also is there anything you can buy to lock the CAMs? And how did you go about lining them back up before putting the new belt on?
Ok so moving each cam manually with a wrench or hand won't hurt....as long as it's clockwise? Sorry for all the questions....but will be my first time as well.
Sorry, wasn't as good at filming back then. Hint: this is the same engine (without a turbo) that dodge installed in some other vehicles like mini vans. There are pretty good videos of those out there ;)
Hey man got a question for you, do you have to remove the pulley to get the bracket off, that’s all I need to do and I was curious if I could do it without removing the pulley
To my knowledge the 2.4L, are non interference engines, so when the valves are open and the piston was at Top Dead Center the valves and piston would not come into contact. You should be fine 👍
I ran into an issue so once my timing belt was off my cam gears moved and I honestly don’t know what to do. I’m not sure if I messed my engine up, what would you recommend me to do?
Frank Valencia sorry, I don't.. I just put everything back together to the same feel tightness. And the crank bolt was hammered on with a serious impact.
njshift I'm sure you could, but I did not.. when you set them they kinda want to stay put unless you twist to much... if you have the tool, use it, but don't spend money on it if u don't
@@ThomasMiata I probably won’t worry about it then because I searched in the forums too and I didn’t see anyone mention the tranny so I think you’re right haha!
Try using two wrenches on the cam bolts with a pair of vice grips to keep them locked together. That might help... But i think I did this by just lining them up and being very careful not to go to far on either cam.
I don't believe going backwards is an issue.. technically it might be, but this engine is still alive and kicking just fine. It's a non interference engine.. so no matter what you do, the valves wont hit the pistons.
Doing mine tomorrow.. being refreshing on all what's needed to be done. This video helps out great too. Thanks.
tonefrog glad I could help
You have great patience man lol with some of the problems you ran into I would have lost It lol. Good video!
Yeah.. got to step away and take some breaks sometimes.. but I always get the job done
"Should take a couple of hours" what he means by that is every 1 hour of working on cars translates into 3 normal hours
😂 ain’t that the truth! Garage time always feels faster lol
"2 hours" usually takes me around 2 days lol.
Thanks for the video, just finished doing the job and your video helped a lot.
Larry DeRuyscher no problem :) thanks for the comment and thumbs up
Thanks for the video! It has helped me a lot!
No problem. Glad it helped
Chrysler calls this 1/2 tooth timing. The exh Mark overlapping the intake mark. These are semi interference engines. Id be careful letting that cam snap like that I also wouldnt get in the habit of rolling an engine backwards. Alot of tensioners will loose there tenion and allow the cams to roll out of place allowing the valves to contact the pistons.
I have to be honest. I had not idea what I was doing on this job ;) Thankfully it was a friends car which ran perfect after this job until it was in a front end collision :(
Thank you for the input, and I will do my best not to spin engines backwards from here on out. :)
Outstanding. I'm too lazy to replace mine.
😂
Great video :)
Thanks dude!
I'm so glad you made this video....I have documentation on how to do this, but this video makes it even better...Kudos. What mileage did you guys change the belt out if you can remember, I have a 2004. Also is there anything you can buy to lock the CAMs? And how did you go about lining them back up before putting the new belt on?
Murph around 150k miles. And you don't need to lock the cams, they will kinda hold themselves.
Thomas Miata so before putting the new belt on did you line them back up?
Murph yes, line up your marks. Then slide belt on
Ok so moving each cam manually with a wrench or hand won't hurt....as long as it's clockwise? Sorry for all the questions....but will be my first time as well.
Murph non interference motor.. can turn by hand and don't need a jig
Why didn’t you record installing the belt or did I miss the part? It’s tricky and I think future viewers would love it.
Sorry, wasn't as good at filming back then. Hint: this is the same engine (without a turbo) that dodge installed in some other vehicles like mini vans. There are pretty good videos of those out there ;)
Awesome video man👏🏼 I hope I can take this down tomorrow haha also can you elaborate on the last step @ 10:33 thanks!
That is setting the idler spring tension. You lock it in so the spring tab rests in the grove.
wish I knew you bro would like for you to work on my srt4
Hey so question I got my timing belt on and tensioned how to I put the metal plate back on that has the three bolts
Hey man got a question for you, do you have to remove the pulley to get the bracket off, that’s all I need to do and I was curious if I could do it without removing the pulley
Isaiah Tiller I took the pulley off to get the timing cover off. I can't remember if it was for the bracket as well.. sorry, it's been a while
I took my timing belt before adjusting it to the marks is that a problem?
To my knowledge the 2.4L, are non interference engines, so when the valves are open and the piston was at Top Dead Center the valves and piston would not come into contact. You should be fine 👍
Sweet! So that being said I can turn the gears counter clockwise? Or should I just turn them clockwise until my Marks match up?
@@manuelguerrero2020 it’s supposed to be better to only go clockwise.. but I doubt it would actually matter since it’s non interference.
Sounds good thanks!
I ran into an issue so once my timing belt was off my cam gears moved and I honestly don’t know what to do. I’m not sure if I messed my engine up, what would you recommend me to do?
Awesome video man!!...you wouldn't happen to have all the torque specs would you..want to tackle this this weekend
Frank Valencia sorry, I don't.. I just put everything back together to the same feel tightness. And the crank bolt was hammered on with a serious impact.
Thomas Miata no worries man..was going to do it like that anyways ..thanks
Frank Valencia in the factory service manual Wich you can find for free on the art forum
Can you use a tool to hold the cam gears in place so the cam doesn't jump when you remove the belt?
njshift I'm sure you could, but I did not.. when you set them they kinda want to stay put unless you twist to much... if you have the tool, use it, but don't spend money on it if u don't
I have an existing tool which is why I asked. Thanks for the quick reply.
njshift no problem.. happy to help :)
When jacking up the engine do I need to worry about the transmission mount? Will the frame mess up
I left it alone and jacked the motor up enough to get access. I bet you could take it off if your worried about it, but I didn’t need to.
@@ThomasMiata I probably won’t worry about it then because I searched in the forums too and I didn’t see anyone mention the tranny so I think you’re right haha!
How do u get your marks to line up? Do u just keep turning the harmonic balancer until your marks line up?
Try using two wrenches on the cam bolts with a pair of vice grips to keep them locked together. That might help... But i think I did this by just lining them up and being very careful not to go to far on either cam.
Ok how come he didn't make sure that number one was top dead center first
Non interference engine
You can replace the timing belt without removing the motor?
Yep
wonder if this is my old black neon srt4 i live in frederick Co. sold it about a year ago!
morgan miskell its not... this is my friends car that they have had for over 10 years
morgan miskell lol yo I live in Frederick too man
did you just go counter clockwise? isnt that bad.
I don't believe going backwards is an issue.. technically it might be, but this engine is still alive and kicking just fine. It's a non interference engine.. so no matter what you do, the valves wont hit the pistons.
How long did this take about
About 8 hours, I give time details at the end