I have always found the 50 series Flowmasters a little quiet anyway....40s for me have always been the sweet spot for both the BB and the SB Chevy. If you ever get the chance order the X pipe from Black Widow and add it to your system. It sounds straight evil...gives it more of a racing nascar sound...I love it...If you ever do anything Ford with a 302 the x pipe and Black widow 250s are one of the sweetest sounding exhaust notes I have ever heard. To me it sounded like those killer old-school sounding Foxbody exhaust from the early 90s but on steroids
Black Widow makes the truck sound how it was intended. Flowmaster muffler quiets it down to a point it would be for someone who's in their late 80's early 90's.
Haha Neal is my exhaust guy as well. He’s the best around. Super cool guy. I’ll be taking my v8 ranger to him soon before the cruises start. Awesome video as always
Great comparison! Thanks for video. Great job!I If u want loud...go with Black Widow. I ran Flowmaster Super 44's, because of the deeper tone and liked them except...when u dropped the hammer they were way too "wrappy". Hard to describe but let's just say it was very irritating. Nice truck you have!
As a professional, I drive a 2013 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ equipped with a 5.3L V8 engine and a 3-inch single exhaust system. I have installed the Black Widow Venom 300 muffler on my vehicle. It is remarkable that there is no noticeable droning sound inside the cabin at any RPM range. However, it is important to note that under specific circumstances, such as flooring the throttle at 5,000 RPM while ascending an incline at 3 AM, the sound may be audible to individuals residing up to a mile away. Conversely, when cruising at 60 MPH with the cruise control engaged, the sound is virtually imperceptible. I have also experimented with various other mufflers, including the OEM stock, Dynomax Super Turbo, Walker Quiet Flow SS, and the Black Widow Venom 300. I am fascinated by the science behind mufflers and their impact on vehicle performance and acoustics. Happy muffling lol.
@@jasoncollins9081 thank you. I had always installed Flowmaster mufflers before and was accustomed to drone. It’s amazing that there is none at any RPM.
@BigRed_1980 Good day to you. The Chevrolet Silverado LTZ did not have a spring-loaded valve on its exhaust, and that feature was not introduced until 2014. When I drive through tunnels, the sound reverberates everywhere, which can be quite amusing. Have you had the opportunity to examine the interior of a Venom 300 muffler? It has four small holes, each approximately the size of a quarter. My exhaust specialist believes that this design could be one of the reasons why it does not produce a droning sound. I also suspect that the length of the muffler may play a role in this. Although I am not certain about the exact reasons, I will be trying a different muffler next week and will keep you informed about the results. Wishing you a joyous and safe Fourth of July!
In terms of muffler preferences, I highly recommend the Street Flow 3-chamber muffler manufactured by Team Allied. Its exceptional idle sound, remarkable quietness during cruising, and impressive roar at WOT make it an exceptional choice. The Black Widow Venom 300 is an amazing muffler; driving through tunnels or driving in parking garages to set off car alarms is a fun pastime to alleviate boredom, lol.
Flowmaster 50 series are very quiet compared to the 40 series. These videos definitely have me wanting to try the black widows though. Been running flowmaster for years, wanna try a new sound.
Man both sound good but I still have to go with the Flowmaster - especially after seeing the drive-by. Flowmaster has a nice deep growl and the Widow has a clappy sound I don't like.
Not going to lie as a huge black widow fan (running on both my cars) I think the flowmasters sound better at wide open throttle less poppy. i do want to swap out my widowmakers for the 250s though but with an x pipe
@@BigRed_1980 i have an x pipe and angry house wifes black widows on my 300 hemi just haven’t uploaded it. But i’m running true duals like yourself on my charger but with their widowmakers. that video is on my channel. but if i swap them out for 250s i’m going to add the x pipe. The widowmakers sound great but not chambered sounding enough lol
@@MidwestMotor i just bought the 250s for my charger but i’m running an x pipe. I used to have angry house wife’s and they weren’t really clappy i shoulda kept them. i imagine the 250s should do the same. but at the same time i had a different x pipe that was really narrow and a lot smoother. I put all that stuff on my 300 however. I’ve bought like 4 pairs of mufflers from them. I got a problem.
Great video & very good comparison! I just bought a '74 Dodge Ramcharger w a 318LA in it that I am restoring. Currently having the original Carter 2 barrel carb being rebuilt (just to get it running again), but plan on going with new intake manifold w either 4 barrel Holley 650 double pump OR Sniper EFI (haven't decided yet). Previous owner put a set of 3" dual headers on it. Way down on my list is exhaust upgrade. Think the headers are fine, but needs new mufflers & pipes. Someone on one of the Ramcharger/Trailduster groups I'm in was asking about mufflers & several folks mentioned the Black Widow Venom 250s (which ed me here). I like the sound of them, but my RC isn't going to be a "performance" truck, just a weekend cruiser. Thinking I should go with the Flowmaster 40's or 50's. Between the 3, which one would you recommend based on what intake & engine I have? Nice truck by the way - cheers!
Sounds like you have a nice project going on there. I had the Flowmaster 50’s on my truck and I’m not a fan. I actually took one of them and replaced the muffler on my wife’s Tahoe as they are not loud at all. They are pretty mellow. If you like a little rumble get the 50’s. I also have Flowmaster 40 deltas on my BelAir with a 327 and a Holley sniper. I really like those. Check out my channel. I have a video about both the Holley sniper and the exhaust. They are not too loud but have a nice rumble. They sound especially good at high RPM’s. If your after a bit more volume then those I would go with the venom 250’s. They sound more raw than the flowmasters. I personally like the volume of these the best. They are not overly loud until you stomp on the skinny pedal😎. Also, zero drone with the Black Widows. I hope you have fun with your project.
Hey man! Big fan here and thanks for such a great video. I had a question, What’s your exhaust configuration. Is it straight through or x pipe? Cheers.
I am so glad that you are a fan of my content. On my truck it is a straight pipe. No X pipe. I was considering one but was not sure how it will change the sound.
@@BigRed_1980 I am so happy you reached out! Made my day thank you! That’s amazing. Now that you have driven your beautiful car with those 250 venom for a while. What’s your take on them. I am considering the 250 race venoms but yours sound so dam great! I want to turn heads and don’t have a wife and kids at the moment so I can have that “loud” luxury freedom” at the moment. I have a 1972, 350 small block Chevrolet corvette. I am a noob with classic cars! This one is my first and loving it so dam much. Your video oriented me in the right direction for sure wen it came down to the sound and muffler 💪🙏
Fair enough. Sound was louder, for sure. Nice job on the video! Looking at their site, I see no info on what's inside, other than no packing. Sweet truck! @@BigRed_1980
Thank you. Near the beginning of the video, I show the inside of the muffler, just a few baffles that make it hour glass shaped. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Personally I enjoy the more raw sound. 😁
Those Widows sound really nice on that truck! I was hoping the black widows would be a little quieter than the 3 chamber flowmasters I have on my SBF stroker, as I get pulled over and harassed by cops a couple times a month. It has a pretty gnarly idle that shakes the mirrors on other cars. lol I have videos up if you're curious what flowmasters sound like on a 500+ hp SBF. Are the Black Widow 300s supposed to be a lot quieter than the 250s?
I drive the Black Widow 250 on my 65 HiPo K Code Fastback and its the best Sound You Can get for a K Code Stang. It’s Not so loud if You drive slow and carefull in the City. But if drop down the Gas, its a beast 😂 😅😎
Hello, can you give me some advice? I have a 72 Corvette...what should I choose for a nice loud sound and a nicer look... Race vanom or vanom 250 lik you ?? My engin small block ….. tell me pleaz
I watched this video and while I love the sound of the black widow mufflers they are just to loud for where I park my classic which is right next to my kids room. Not so fun to be in the dog house because I wanted to drive a certain vehicle to work at 5am.
Instead of 50s in the first place should have put 40s ,44 or the 10s they are more aggressive than 50s are made moderate sound and mild stock so the flowmaster in the first place was wrong choice
Oh OK yeah I would either I love flowmaster but my truck is 3in exhaust they don't have the 3 in outlets but these do make them so I am going to give them a try I hope be good
This is how every exhaust comparison video should be made in perpetuity.
Thank you 😊
Those Venoms sound amazing
Thank you 😊
Black Widow for the win!
The venom 250s reming me of the sound my neighbors big block race boat had. Great sound
Thank you
Would love to see more pictures of that pickup. Sounds good
Thank you for the burnout at the end, I needed that with all that teasing.
I have always found the 50 series Flowmasters a little quiet anyway....40s for me have always been the sweet spot for both the BB and the SB Chevy. If you ever get the chance order the X pipe from Black Widow and add it to your system. It sounds straight evil...gives it more of a racing nascar sound...I love it...If you ever do anything Ford with a 302 the x pipe and Black widow 250s are one of the sweetest sounding exhaust notes I have ever heard. To me it sounded like those killer old-school sounding Foxbody exhaust from the early 90s but on steroids
I’m so glad I put the venom 250’s on my chevelle. I got some videos on my channel. Your truck is beautiful and sounds great 👍
Love it 😍 thanks for the support
Anytime, thanks for making a great product right here in the USA 🇺🇸
Black Widow makes the truck sound how it was intended. Flowmaster muffler quiets it down to a point it would be for someone who's in their late 80's early 90's.
Haha Neal is my exhaust guy as well. He’s the best around. Super cool guy. I’ll be taking my v8 ranger to him soon before the cruises start. Awesome video as always
Thank you. Neal is great. Hope to see you at some of the cruises this year👍
I love the Widows !!!!
Great in depth video. Well made. Kudos sir
The black widow for sure my type of muffler sound.
Great video. Thank you for all the efforts!
Thank you 😎
Great comparison! Thanks for video. Great job!I If u want loud...go with Black Widow. I ran Flowmaster Super 44's, because of the deeper tone and liked them except...when u dropped the hammer they were way too "wrappy". Hard to describe but let's just say it was very irritating. Nice truck you have!
the same swap i done about 8 months ago. had FM 50 went to venom 250s on my 86 monte carlo ss 355cid built a bit. totally better!
As a professional, I drive a 2013 Chevrolet Silverado LTZ equipped with a 5.3L V8 engine and a 3-inch single exhaust system. I have installed the Black Widow Venom 300 muffler on my vehicle. It is remarkable that there is no noticeable droning sound inside the cabin at any RPM range. However, it is important to note that under specific circumstances, such as flooring the throttle at 5,000 RPM while ascending an incline at 3 AM, the sound may be audible to individuals residing up to a mile away. Conversely, when cruising at 60 MPH with the cruise control engaged, the sound is virtually imperceptible. I have also experimented with various other mufflers, including the OEM stock, Dynomax Super Turbo, Walker Quiet Flow SS, and the Black Widow Venom 300. I am fascinated by the science behind mufflers and their impact on vehicle performance and acoustics. Happy muffling lol.
@@jasoncollins9081 thank you. I had always installed Flowmaster mufflers before and was accustomed to drone. It’s amazing that there is none at any RPM.
@BigRed_1980 Good day to you. The Chevrolet Silverado LTZ did not have a spring-loaded valve on its exhaust, and that feature was not introduced until 2014. When I drive through tunnels, the sound reverberates everywhere, which can be quite amusing. Have you had the opportunity to examine the interior of a Venom 300 muffler? It has four small holes, each approximately the size of a quarter. My exhaust specialist believes that this design could be one of the reasons why it does not produce a droning sound. I also suspect that the length of the muffler may play a role in this. Although I am not certain about the exact reasons, I will be trying a different muffler next week and will keep you informed about the results. Wishing you a joyous and safe Fourth of July!
In terms of muffler preferences, I highly recommend the Street Flow 3-chamber muffler manufactured by Team Allied. Its exceptional idle sound, remarkable quietness during cruising, and impressive roar at WOT make it an exceptional choice. The Black Widow Venom 300 is an amazing muffler; driving through tunnels or driving in parking garages to set off car alarms is a fun pastime to alleviate boredom, lol.
Flowmasters
Flowmaster 50 series are very quiet compared to the 40 series. These videos definitely have me wanting to try the black widows though. Been running flowmaster for years, wanna try a new sound.
I was in your boat last year. Now I’ll never go back.
Nice video just what i needed to know ........Black Widows......P.S. nice rig you got there.
@@superdragon9293 thank you. What rig are you thinking about putting the BlackWidows on?
Can’t do a better comparison. 😮
Thank you
That's top gun muffler in sumner. Need to bring that truck up to sunrise village this summer.
I should. Don’t they have a car show about every week in the summer?
@BigRed_1980 yes they do. Saturdays at 5pm. Usually starts April I believe. Seen 200+ cars there before. Very relaxing and draws a crowd.
@jhgvlyglyg I’ll have stop buy for sure 👍
Man both sound good but I still have to go with the Flowmaster - especially after seeing the drive-by. Flowmaster has a nice deep growl and the Widow has a clappy sound I don't like.
Flowmasters FTW.
Got to go with Black Widow.
Not going to lie as a huge black widow fan (running on both my cars) I think the flowmasters sound better at wide open throttle less poppy. i do want to swap out my widowmakers for the 250s though but with an x pipe
I have been thinking about adding an X pipe as well. Let me know if you do it what you think.
@@BigRed_1980 i have an x pipe and angry house wifes black widows on my 300 hemi just haven’t uploaded it. But i’m running true duals like yourself on my charger but with their widowmakers. that video is on my channel. but if i swap them out for 250s i’m going to add the x pipe. The widowmakers sound great but not chambered sounding enough lol
This is exactly what I just posted - Widow has a "clapping," sound I do not like.
@@MidwestMotor i just bought the 250s for my charger but i’m running an x pipe. I used to have angry house wife’s and they weren’t really clappy i shoulda kept them. i imagine the 250s should do the same. but at the same time i had a different x pipe that was really narrow and a lot smoother. I put all that stuff on my 300 however. I’ve bought like 4 pairs of mufflers from them. I got a problem.
Black widow
Great video & very good comparison! I just bought a '74 Dodge Ramcharger w a 318LA in it that I am restoring. Currently having the original Carter 2 barrel carb being rebuilt (just to get it running again), but plan on going with new intake manifold w either 4 barrel Holley 650 double pump OR Sniper EFI (haven't decided yet). Previous owner put a set of 3" dual headers on it. Way down on my list is exhaust upgrade. Think the headers are fine, but needs new mufflers & pipes. Someone on one of the Ramcharger/Trailduster groups I'm in was asking about mufflers & several folks mentioned the Black Widow Venom 250s (which ed me here). I like the sound of them, but my RC isn't going to be a "performance" truck, just a weekend cruiser. Thinking I should go with the Flowmaster 40's or 50's. Between the 3, which one would you recommend based on what intake & engine I have? Nice truck by the way - cheers!
Sounds like you have a nice project going on there. I had the Flowmaster 50’s on my truck and I’m not a fan. I actually took one of them and replaced the muffler on my wife’s Tahoe as they are not loud at all. They are pretty mellow. If you like a little rumble get the 50’s. I also have Flowmaster 40 deltas on my BelAir with a 327 and a Holley sniper. I really like those. Check out my channel. I have a video about both the Holley sniper and the exhaust. They are not too loud but have a nice rumble. They sound especially good at high RPM’s. If your after a bit more volume then those I would go with the venom 250’s. They sound more raw than the flowmasters. I personally like the volume of these the best. They are not overly loud until you stomp on the skinny pedal😎. Also, zero drone with the Black Widows. I hope you have fun with your project.
Looked like Sumner , im just up the hill from there !
It is Sumner😎
Hey man! Big fan here and thanks for such a great video. I had a question, What’s your exhaust configuration. Is it straight through or x pipe? Cheers.
I am so glad that you are a fan of my content. On my truck it is a straight pipe. No X pipe. I was considering one but was not sure how it will change the sound.
@@BigRed_1980 I am so happy you reached out! Made my day thank you! That’s amazing. Now that you have driven your beautiful car with those 250 venom for a while. What’s your take on them. I am considering the 250 race venoms but yours sound so dam great! I want to turn heads and don’t have a wife and kids at the moment so I can have that “loud” luxury freedom” at the moment. I have a 1972, 350 small block Chevrolet corvette. I am a noob with classic cars! This one is my first and loving it so dam much. Your video oriented me in the right direction for sure wen it came down to the sound and muffler 💪🙏
I love the way the venoms sound. No drone in the cab and somewhat tame when cruising. But one you smash the skinny pedal😂😂😂😎😎😎
@@BigRed_1980 The X-pipe is worth every penny from Black Widow
@adamdavis2760 I was wondering about that. How does it change the sound?
Why no MagnaFlow?
I find Magnaflow to be a little too mellow for me.
Fair enough. Sound was louder, for sure. Nice job on the video!
Looking at their site, I see no info on what's inside, other than no packing.
Sweet truck! @@BigRed_1980
Thank you. Near the beginning of the video, I show the inside of the muffler, just a few baffles that make it hour glass shaped. I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Personally I enjoy the more raw sound. 😁
@@BigRed_1980 I saw the muffler and the welds that look like a venturi shape, I just can't see inside.
Can you see right through it? No restriction?
Yes, you can see right through it.
Yo quiero que suene como el Mustang sincronico🤩👍 le falto intencidad
Those Widows sound really nice on that truck! I was hoping the black widows would be a little quieter than the 3 chamber flowmasters I have on my SBF stroker, as I get pulled over and harassed by cops a couple times a month. It has a pretty gnarly idle that shakes the mirrors on other cars. lol I have videos up if you're curious what flowmasters sound like on a 500+ hp SBF. Are the Black Widow 300s supposed to be a lot quieter than the 250s?
That is what I heard. The thing I like about the Widows is they are not too loud untill you get on it😎
how is the. drone with the 250's around town? eyeing them to put on my 66 mustang.
I get no drone at all.😁
@@BigRed_1980 good to hear. Thank you.
I drive the Black Widow 250 on my 65 HiPo K Code Fastback and its the best Sound You Can get for a K Code Stang. It’s Not so loud if You drive slow and carefull in the City. But if drop down the Gas, its a beast 😂 😅😎
I agree😎
Hello, can you give me some advice? I have a 72 Corvette...what should I choose for a nice loud sound and a nicer look...
Race vanom or vanom 250 lik you ??
My engin small block ….. tell me pleaz
The venom 250’s are nice. If you want real loud, go with the race venoms
I watched this video and while I love the sound of the black widow mufflers they are just to loud for where I park my classic which is right next to my kids room. Not so fun to be in the dog house because I wanted to drive a certain vehicle to work at 5am.
I hear you. What “Classic” do you drive?
*FLO. 50S*
Instead of 50s in the first place should have put 40s ,44 or the 10s they are more aggressive than 50s are made moderate sound and mild stock so the flowmaster in the first place was wrong choice
The guy I bought the truck from put the 50’s on it. Definitely wasn’t what I’d have done.
Oh OK yeah I would either I love flowmaster but my truck is 3in exhaust they don't have the 3 in outlets but these do make them so I am going to give them a try I hope be good
Yea 40s would have been the perfect balance
Which black widow 250 are those
Yes
Try the flowmaster outlaw race mufflers
I thought about it but damn those things are loud.
@@BigRed_1980 yes they are
Do you have them on one of your cars?
@@BigRed_1980 Yes i have two on my 1997 chevy K-1500 pick up with no cats and true duels.
Do you have a video of them. I’d love to hear them 😎
It's called being abnauctious! like straight piped harleys pulling full throttle😂
😂
Obnoxious
Thank you 😎
Neither
Borla XR-1 Multicore!!!
I really thought about the XR-1’s. Do you have a clip of them?