THE EVOLUTION OF WRESTLING IN ADCC, JIUJITSU AND NO GI GRAPPLING
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In this video some of the greatest grapplers ever give their opinion on how important wrestling is for No Gi grappling and specifically ADCC.
Featuring Roger Gracie, Xande Ribeiro, Vagner Rocha, Dean Lister, Craig Jones, Andre Galvao, John Danaher, Lachlan Giles and Josh Hinger.
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Marcelo Garcia was so far ahead of his time! Arm drags, single legs, wrestling up, seatbelt to arm trapping to RNC, single leg X, shoulder crunch butterfly sweeps, high elbow guillotines... The list goes on! Danaher and the rest have built upon his game for modern no gi jiu jitsu.
Yes I 💯 agree. Marcelo is my No Gi GOAT because of what he was doing in that time at 77kg
Did garcia have a coach or did he come up with it on his own?
Preach brother. Marcelo was smaller but technically ahead of everyone.
@@HonkletonDonkleton Alliance’s head coach Fabio Gurgel
Yup. I'm a big jiu jitsi guy and I always had problems with wrestlers. Although they couldn't tap me they were just so strong, explosive and know how to control and move. It's crazy
People forget Rolls Gracie brought in Olympic Wrestlers and Sambo players to Brazil and trained with them. But also, they don't mention Catch Wrestling at all, that is exactly what we're talking about here, Folk Style wrestling with Submissions
Remember Brazilian Jiu-jitsu was a spin-off from Judo in its founding days. They took away the takedowns, sweeps, and throws and focused more on submissions. Now Jiu-jitsu practitioners are realizing the importance of wrestling once again.
Bjj came from Maeda jiu jitsu, and Mitsuyo Maeda was a Judo black belt and Catch wrestler
ADCC has made jiu-jitsu better, in that it has forced us to become better at the takedown game.
Yup 💯🔥
It’s good to see BJJ guys work in their wrestling/takedown game. I always thought that the lack of takedowns was a big flaw in BJJ. This new focus on takedowns will help jiu jitsu guys who transition to MMA so much.
and make it more relevant and versatile for self-defence...
Great documentary. Wrestling for most people doing bjj is the equivalent of leg day (weightlifting rather than leg locks).
Thank you Adam 🙏
No one does a better job making jiujitsu content like this than you. The quality & stylistic feel are unparalleled. Great work.
Thanks bro 🙏
Roger Gracie is the only person I’ve ever heard speak English with a Brazilian accent while simultaneously speaking English with a British accent 😂
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I thought I was tripping hearing him speak lol
Hes like Sean Conshry
Fantastic video as always! Mark Kerr showed us all the value of wrestling way back in the second ADCC in 1999. He had basically zero jiu jitsu and won 99+. He won his weight class again in 2000 along with the absolute. The guy was a machine!
Thank you Kevin. Glad you liked it
He certainly was a machine… some might say a… smashing machine. Lol
Totally agree though, that’s insanely impressive.
@@dmcappello 😂 that documentary was so good!
Even in the early UFC's when the wrestlers showed up that had insight to the submission game it changed the BJJ angle
@@tommywaite5455 Mark Kerr head butted people into oblivion back then.
Once the art of jiujitsu is merged with the art of wrestling, it will no longer be either. It will definitely be a form of strategic submission grappling that will continue to evolve with the times. This was an amazing video and truly humbled me in understanding where I'm deficient.
Thank you 🙏
"Once the art of jiujitsu is merged with the art of wrestling, it will no longer be either" - ye it'll be called judo, ahaha
@@BOZ_11 You mean the grappling sport that pretends legs don't exist as targets? 🤣
@@MrAlepedroza like BJJ about 5+ years ago u mean? gotcha
@@BOZ_11 Unfortunately even worse, you can't touch the legs in judo competitions.
Judo sport is really bad, Judo martial art is great
For 10s of thousands of years this was martial arts and primary source of entertainment! I'm glad we're taking it back!
The names change but the moves stay the same! Completely agree m8, every culture had its wrestling style and it's great to see a resurgence
The greatest thing about BJJ is that it is continuously evolving! The athleticism in this sport is amazing!
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Very young; it’ll slow down once the metas are set for the most part.
@@googlegmail9888 can you elaborate? What do you mean with Metas? I am interested now.
@@muayad67 all of the metas that are considered good now until people learn defenses and evolutionarily speaking technique will keep getting better and better
Outstanding content, and sorely needed. Danaher knows what direction no gi is heading in, and he wants to be ahead of that curve.
Thank you! I appreciate it
@@stuartcooperfilms I've watched most of your work, and it's excellent.
Well crafted and presented for maximum impact. You have done more than most in selling jiu jitsu to the world.
Well done!
@@cdcaleo thanks man! I spend so many hours editing these videos it’s nice to hear positive feedback
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I would not have had the success that I had in jiu jitsu without my wrestling experience 🔥🔥🔥
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Same for me in bjj. I coach high-school wrestling and teach sneaky chokesand techniques from various wrestling positions. i.e. arm and head triangle, anaconda chokes, knee on belly, wrist locks etc to gain advantages in wrestling matches....
Sick video as always ! Love that the lines are becoming blurred and it’s becoming grappling in the ultimate sense of the word
Thank you Michael 🙏
Thanks Stuart for producing this incredible content! Beautiful and inspirational reminder of why I love Jiu Jitsu so much.
Thanks Alex! I appreciate it
Cyborg Abreau and one of the Yamazaki bros wrestled internationally for team Brazil. I teach bjj techniques to my high school wrestling team I coach all the time. A little choke here, knee on belly there, wrist locks too all to gain advantage positionally
I was checking out a mma gym around town and seen they offered Submission Wrestling, wondered how that art look like though so I'm glad I caught this great video on YT 👍
Glad you liked it
Beautiful documentary ! Thank you !
Awesome vid! Loved seeing all the interviews
Thanks brother! Appreciate the support
Amazing video bro. Very well put together
Great stuff Stu!
Thanks Mate 🙏
Man I need to get better at wrestling 😂
Great video!! 👏
Thanks Tony! Appreciate the support 🙏
Gave me goosebumps great video 👊😵💫😬
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it
Always appreciate your work
Thanks you 🙏
Great video - thank you
G8 video, now I will consider a wrestling as a part of my trainings besides gi and no gi classes. Thank you Stuart!🤙
Amazing vid man earned a sub!
Thanks man 🙏
Another masterpiece from cooper! 🤙🏻
Thank you 🙏
Great video, thanks
As a former D-1 wrestler who also competed internationally in Freestyle and Greco-Roman and has now been trainings jiu-jitsu for 5 years. I find that I have more success using strictly Greco-Roman, I find that with strictly upper body attacks I avoid potentially dangerous jiu-jitsu submissions. Not its full proof but its been working.
What's the difference between catch and Greco-Roman styles?
Great film brother🔥
Love the episodes!
Thank you bro! I appreciate the help and tips 🙏
Great work!!!
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for one more excellent video! John Danaher is right as always in the prediction of tendentions.
He’s definitely ahead of the game there
Awesome film. The problem with bjj wrestling is there is no movement and no setups. So many of the clips are of guys just basically standing in front of eachother and then randomly shooting no matter what the angle, head position or hand situation is. That's never going to work. People are so good at getting angles and moving around like a cat when it comes to passing, but when it comes to standing it's just head pawing and trying to blast through no matter what. Craig and John hit the nail on the head with their comments.
Thank you 🙏
Great video, keep up the good work!!
Thank you 🙏
Awesome guys!
Nothing in Jiu jitsu has grated on my nerves as much as the butt scoot. I never stopped thinking it was corny beyond belief
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As a guy coming from a pure wrestling background, I had a bit of a different word for it- gay.
The job of a wrestler is to get the opponent to the mat and then score points or a pin. By going to your ass, you just did half my job for me.
Imagine doing the butt scoot in a bar fight LOL
pounding on your chest while you crab walk towards the guy. COME AND GET IT TOUGH GUY
Great video!!
Thank you Chris 🙏
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 you’re the best
Thank you 🙏😊❤️
Amazing video
Thanks Bryan! 🙏💥
One of the best videos of brazilian Jiu Jitsu i have ever seen 👍🏼
Thanks Victor
Great video thanks 👍🏿
Thank you bro 🙏
Have always loved your videos my friend 👌🏿
Awesome!
Thanks brother!!! Appreciate it
Josh Hinger said it perfectly, ADCC is more a wrestling tournament with submissions. And guard players had to adapt their game to that.
God dammit that intro is so slick!
At 04:35, Marcelo uses a butterfly hook to elevate and sweep opponent and he was in position for cross-ashi. This must've been where Danaher got inspiration for entries for his leg-lock system.
its really amazing that they dont knock heads together more often
Eu gosto de ver esses gigantes das artes marciais mostrando a beleza que tem as artes marciais...
This is why i want to learn catch wrestling…
I do judo and jiu jitsu.. works well together but only for gi
Add some wrestling in and you’ll be very well rounded. One of my training partners is a BJJ brown belt and a Judo Olympian with legit wrestling skills on top of that. He’s a hand full 😂
Watching you since your very first video.
Just the best in the business by FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRR.
(Also here since video number one to read Blue belt criticizing top level athletes in the comment section)
** popcorn time **
Thank you. I appreciate it very much 🙏
Grazie mille bello ragazzone 🤠
grazie mio bellissimo angelo
Danaher is right and I bet the key is grappling with different metas in place. Try grappling glima-style to work on preventing people from escaping/standing up, try sumo-style for takedowns and footwork... etc.
Yes this is a great point Danaher makes. I had this problem training with wrestlers in Thailand for many years. I’d get the sweep but they’d quickly scramble to standing position again
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Cool how the sport is still changing to this day.
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One underappreciated and almost lost grappling art is top of the food chain in grappling and that is Catch as catch can wrestling
The thing i dont understand is that despite all the evidence of the effectiveness of wrestling a lot of jiujitsu guys shy away from wrestling practice, thats my observation at least.
Perhaps the largest reason for that is that a pure wrestling practice is far more difficult from the standpoint of continuous effort required and energy expended.
1. Those who practice BJJ normally don't like to try takedowns, don't want to fall, don't want to learn how to fall... you spend a lot of energy and strength training on your feet.
2. It is possible to win these tournaments only with a sharp ground BJJ.
Ricky Lundell is a top level wrestler and Pedro Sauer Bjj black belt as well as a black belt in judo. The guy is incredible!
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I'm only mentioning him because he's currently at the top as far as No-gi grappling goes, but, I'd love to see Gordon Ryan start implementing some legit Catch wrestling techniques to his arsenal. It would just be fun to see
13:00 What Danaher is saying is that we're doing a full circle back to Catch wrestling.
And thanks gods for that. Guard pulling has nothing to do with self-defense, which is why most people started martial arts in the first place. Neither do whining about slams, when you never practiced how to land properly.
time to pull back judo and BJJ together
Amzing video!! So who's going to do it? Bo Nickal? How can ADCC call in more Olympic wrestlers and Judoka? So few switch to other sports. Love to see Hassan Yazdani or David Taylor make this move. Satoshi Ishii and Kayla Harrison recently moved to MMA from Judo.
Thanks 🙏
by paying them more
I went into adcc with expectations to have fun wrestling, they pulled guard on me immediately and got leglocked.
So don't get too hyped from this video, the negative points are not even given in the first minutes
You can't pull guard in the finals.
I know one of my Dagestani Wrestling coach / trainer was teaching the Black BELT guys at one of Gracie Ju Jitsu Academy in London. 💥💥💥💪💪💪
O Jiu Jitsu de submissão.eu gosto muito.porque mostra a real eficiência da arte de lura.
Wrestling is the new meta
Were just evolving back into catch wrestling
Josh Hinger mentioned that according to ADCC rules, you cannot pull guard in the finals. I'm kind of unfamiliar with the specific ruleset for ADDC - can somebody explain that please?
Eu adoro as artes marciais.
Só por causa de problemas de saúde eu não prático mais.
Man , I would love to practice Wrestling. Unfortunatelly , there is no Wrestling gym where I live.
Find a friend to practice wrestling with
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Still very new but coming from judo it's like the opposite at most gyms. Alot of deficiencies in the ground game because you can stall and get stood up. And then when I'd train with bjj folks, they'd have absolutely zero interest in stand up game
You can learn Wrestling, but people still won’t have the heart and the stamina of a Wrestler.
Luta Livre....
Hinger: "In the finals you can't pull guard". Gordon: "Hold my beer."
Leglocks, takedown, ability to impose a top game. - danaher-
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Music ?
Sorry no idea bro. It’s a bunch of copyright free music from epidemic sound. They only give title names
Muito jiu-jitsu
You guys needs to talk about Arona, nobody did points on him.
I’d love to get an interview with him
is there testing there?
Nope
Can all Jiu jitsu tournaments switch to ADCC rules?
Who is the grey haired man at 6.31 and 6.36? Thanks!
Mario Sperry
Cheers, used to love watching Sperry
What does he mean that you can not pull guard in finals?
pulling guard is not allowed in the final?
It’s allowed but you get a negative point. So if you don’t score in the remaining time you will lose by points for pulling guard. So it’s not a good idea unless you’re really confident in your guard
@@stuartcooperfilms thx😊
Wrestling is the foundation of Grappling period!!
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Mark Kerr and Jeff Monson proved the importance of wrestling in this ruleset two decades ago. Kerr came in with a near Olympic level wrestling pedigree and blew through everyone using his wrestling, even submitting a few guys a long the way. He then won double gold again the next year. Monson also came in with next to no pure BJJ experience and won his division first time out and again few years later. So dominant wrestling in this ruleset/ competition is nothing new at all.
they were trained in cacht wrestling.
Man danahar and craig predicted the coming of the rod brothers, mica and dorian olivarez.
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@@stuartcooperfilms i can’t believe you saw my comment. Love your content bro. Its cool to see the highlights of the old guard and the new wave.
@@marcomiller5146 thanks man! Appreciate it 🙏
This looks like more catch as Catch can than BJJ. The approach or philosophy of Catch more over than BJJ philosophy of positioning first.
Yeah that is where I found the comment of a Jujitsu player with serious wrestling will change the sport to be wrong, it will be a wrestler that learns submissions. You are right this evolving/devolving into Catch without pins.
Rustam Chsiev just running it OVER and OVER in this vid.
They need to fix the points a bit more to remove all the points for guard passing to make it a really grappling tourney, but it's better than it used to be.
I want to make it to the finals just so I don't have to deal with people pulling guard lol
It is no a coincidence , wrestling is one of the oldest sports if not the oldest sport.
They really need to get rid of the butt sit. People need to be forced to the ground or focrce someone into your guard.
There is catch wrestling which is the basis for no gi Jiujitsu.
I guess Bjj is no longer considered Gentle?
I don’t think so haha there’s nothing gentle about it
@@stuartcooperfilms That combat bjj is pretty dope too.
As a former college wrestler I think we will see the sport transition into more of. Hybrid between wrestling and BJJ. You will have to get food in your feet.
What is ADCC.
Abu Dhabi Combat Club
Widely regarded as the pinnacle event of Submission Grappling.
Nearly all ADCC Champions are highly respected in the grappling community, submission or otherwise.
1st!
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