He's our boy we have to figure out everything we can about him right now, I want him and melinoe to have some sibling bonding after we batista bomb chronos through a table for good, damn it
It’s nice of Skelly not to mention the giant naked statues of himself that he tricked Zagreus into building. Although to be fair, Zagreus was only tricked into building one. He built the other two by himself
I mean, Skelly didn't really knew they were statues of himself lmao. It was a miscommunication mistake with the sculptor, as they were supposed to be (presumably) naked sculptures of Zagreus instead lol
@@iwasdeleted708 When the primordial originator is backing you up because he finds you legitimately that amusing, you know you've done something right. Funny how Chaos admits he misses Zagreus in his own way, then proceeds to casually diss Melinoe in the same breath. (I like Melinoe but you can't deny without Zag, a lot of the charm's been lost)
@@Aurora-313She’s just as charming, but in a different way. Zag was playful and charismatic, while Melinöe is a lot more blunt and naive. Yet at the same time they’re both extremely polite and friendly to both their allies and their rivals. One small detail I like is that when Hades sees everyone frozen in time, you can see Zag was gunning straight for Chronos. He saw his grandfather and went for the attack without hesitation, that’s bravery right there.
Melinoë trying to use the same slang as Skelly while still speaking in such flowery language is honestly adorable. When the siblings are reunited I just know Zagreus is going to teach all kinds of mortal slang just so he can watch her parrot it at the worst possible times
@@monkewithearrings9535 after. (Hades' memory will even have the hall from the first game. From the save in the first game! With all the decorations I spent tons of my time on!)
For a roguelike, Hades has some phenomenal character writing. So much so that people get invested just to see more of the previous characters in the sequels.
I'm almost sure that the moment Hades and the rest reclaims the house, the postgame is gonna be literally just the first game, but with Zagreous at the top since he's now the "chief of security"
Blood magic: until you enemy has blood you can manipolete theam like puppet. Blood is life: For every critical hit you absorve the life of your enemy. Yes, I believe Zag would be a lot stronger respect last game. I mean now it is taller then his mom,and height in this universe make me thing it is symbol of power
Nice to see the pretty much everybody missed Zag I wonder where is he and the other captives from the house of Hades after Chronos took over. Did he hide them somewhere? I mean, we know where Hypnos is I don't understand how Hecate was able to sneak him out of the house in time since he wasn't frozen in stasis, but he appears to still be in a constant state of sleep and he's been like that for years.
@@cameronrhodes1101 small disclaimer since i never played the game myself. but i've seen some clips and from what i can tell, they're most likely placed elsewhere ( like a pocket dimension or something like that ). that or they're very much moved to the other side of the house... closer to the halls where achilles once stood / near hades' bed
@@cameronrhodes1101i play the game and as far as i know chronos keeps them in stasis hidden in some place that only he has access and to him thats mercy since he hasn’t killed them and according to hades chronos keeps them alive to keep hades in check.
The game is still on early access, im think chronos placed them inside of zag's room, frozen. But we can never be sure as there is zero evidence of it.
Imagine if someday, late in the development of the game, they add Zagreus as playable second character with his weapons (partially ported partially reworked, its okay if he would have less content for him like playable Vergil in past DMC games) after Mel save him fron Chronos That would be awesome
Feels like skelly is even more full of it in this game. Especially since Melonie doesn’t know him as well as Zagreb’s did and isn’t as acquainted with his bs.
Im missing Zagreus jokes and character, he had something that makes me want to listen what he says instead of skip. Returning to "lobby" is also not feeling special anymore, it looks kinda chaotic and without Zagreus and Hades "hating" each other.
I think that's kind of the point, because the tones of the two games are very different. Zagreus was living in a time of peace and order, and his venture out of the Underworld was a personal goal. For Melinoe, she was raised during a time of war and has this huge responsibility to kill Chronos. It's even implied that she was BORN for this reason. The investment in her character is seeing how she copes with the stress of her situation, finding little bits of peace and happiness even in their horrible situation, and how to live beyond her duty. Learning more about her family is just one way for her to cope, like remembering the good times and reminding her of why she, and subsequently the player, have to fight so hard
I get what you mean though I understand the reasoning behind it. For me, it's more, I don't really care as much for those in the crossroads? In H1, I liked and wanted to talk to everyone. In H2, there are some that actually kind of annoy me (Nem and Eris in particular, tho I know some people really like them). I thought I'd like Dora but she's kind of meh for me as well. Also bc the situation seems more dire, I really just wanna keep getting out there faster.
I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop and for this to be a bit and I'm increasingly convinced that this is not a bit. I've been playing this game for days and I still haven't processed it.
One of Skelly's lines has him actually confess to being Schelemeus, though he quickly claims it was a gag. However, Asterius DOES remember tales of a Schelemeus, so...
Ngl being on console is killing this for me. I started the original after it was complete and didn't have it on my radar the whole time it was developed.
im sorry for your loss. the way information is disseminated so quickly nowadays has spoiled me on so much stuff I'd really rather experience myself. blatant thumbnail and title spoilers on social media, everywhere. it's ridiculous. you have to be a hermit to avoid it.
the one reason I miss zagreus is mostly because by the clips of the games, melinoe sounds so fucking cold to the people (albeit) she hasn't met yet, to me her desire to stop chronos isn't my cup of tea as opposed to zag who just wants to escape the underworld to meet his mother, melinoe kind of sounds like zuko during the early days of atla
Supergiant used to have lots of saturated colors, in Hades 1, it pops, red, teal, gems, metallics, this time the seem to go to more subdued approach, but yeah I agree, even the walkable grounds look less obvious gameplay wise, it used to be quite intuitive, but now it feels like late mid 2000s graying tone of games with so much added details and desaturations
Taste, I guess. Haven't logged into Hades in over a year. A friend gifted me Hades 2. I'm hooked. Played 30 hours in 4 days. And there's still so much content unexplored. If you consider the second part as an expansion to the first, it's a great project in general. More story, more gods, more abilities, more builds, more challenges.
I love how we're all just obsessed with finding anything to do with Zag 😂😂
He's our boy we have to figure out everything we can about him right now, I want him and melinoe to have some sibling bonding after we batista bomb chronos through a table for good, damn it
We all know that if he ain't in base game it's just because zag dlc is on the way
Hades fans when Zag is mentioned:
“IS BE SAFE? IS HE ALRIGHT?”
LFG BATISTA BOMB CHRONOS @@TheBcsar
Zag did leave quite a mark on everybody he met
It’s nice of Skelly not to mention the giant naked statues of himself that he tricked Zagreus into building.
Although to be fair, Zagreus was only tricked into building one. He built the other two by himself
I mean, Skelly didn't really knew they were statues of himself lmao. It was a miscommunication mistake with the sculptor, as they were supposed to be (presumably) naked sculptures of Zagreus instead lol
@@Mauricio0973”Something to make me look good my my sources”, and the sculptor took it rather literally(sexy Skelly!) 😂😂😂
all the dialogue i've seen so far is everyone going "man your brother was the shit. oh right yeah take a book i guess" it's so funny
The mad lad said one day "I'm wanna meet my mother, hold my ambrosia." and tore his way out of the underworld. That's bound to earn a fan or two.
@@Aurora-313bro even chaos who’s beyond the normal concepts misses his randomness, I bet the narrator too.
@@iwasdeleted708 When the primordial originator is backing you up because he finds you legitimately that amusing, you know you've done something right.
Funny how Chaos admits he misses Zagreus in his own way, then proceeds to casually diss Melinoe in the same breath.
(I like Melinoe but you can't deny without Zag, a lot of the charm's been lost)
@@Aurora-313She’s just as charming, but in a different way. Zag was playful and charismatic, while Melinöe is a lot more blunt and naive. Yet at the same time they’re both extremely polite and friendly to both their allies and their rivals.
One small detail I like is that when Hades sees everyone frozen in time, you can see Zag was gunning straight for Chronos. He saw his grandfather and went for the attack without hesitation, that’s bravery right there.
@@gavo7911 zag has his mothers personality while mel has her fathers. Pretty fitting.
I love how Melinoe is almost completely devoid of sarcasm while Zagreous would constantly mock anyone that antagonize him
They were raised very differently
Well... he's not wrong at least. Zag wouldn't want her to be so hung up about him, I imagine
She got the "Hey, Thanks" that's pretty intense.
Melinoë trying to use the same slang as Skelly while still speaking in such flowery language is honestly adorable. When the siblings are reunited I just know Zagreus is going to teach all kinds of mortal slang just so he can watch her parrot it at the worst possible times
Now i can't stop imagining her screaming yolo while fighting a uh-oh thx
They're going to love each other.
They're also going to find each other *completely insufferable*.
So basically, siblings 😂
I think skelly is a masochist
What gave it away?
Nah, he definitely is.
He's just doing his job!
I think Skelly is a Markiplier in disguise
Yah think?
When did that walking talking skeleton get facela hair!
Skelly : "- You'll have to beat me for an answer !"
Betting it's a fake beard he bought off Charon.
@@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg true tho
I knew it was the same guy or rather skeleton
skelly said to zagreous one of his old names with skelemaus so yes CLEARLY same guy
I'd be worried if you didn't
@@singerathevampirewait is hades 2 taking place before hades 1??
@@monkewithearrings9535 after.
(Hades' memory will even have the hall from the first game. From the save in the first game! With all the decorations I spent tons of my time on!)
@@monkewithearrings9535No, I think skelly just went back to use his old name because funny
Melinoe: what can you tell me about my brother?
Skelly: he wants you to hit me.
For a roguelike, Hades has some phenomenal character writing. So much so that people get invested just to see more of the previous characters in the sequels.
Yeah. It makes me wanna keep doing runs because I wanna see what Dionysus says next. Or in Hades 2, I wanna see Dionysus.
am I crazy for wanting them to add a Zagreus boon in a future update
Maybe like a post Game type thing yes!!!
I'm almost sure that the moment Hades and the rest reclaims the house, the postgame is gonna be literally just the first game, but with Zagreous at the top since he's now the "chief of security"
Blood magic: until you enemy has blood you can manipolete theam like puppet. Blood is life: For every critical hit you absorve the life of your enemy. Yes, I believe Zag would be a lot stronger respect last game. I mean now it is taller then his mom,and height in this universe make me thing it is symbol of power
Nice to see the pretty much everybody missed Zag I wonder where is he and the other captives from the house of Hades after Chronos took over. Did he hide them somewhere?
I mean, we know where Hypnos is I don't understand how Hecate was able to sneak him out of the house in time since he wasn't frozen in stasis, but he appears to still be in a constant state of sleep and he's been like that for years.
theyre in the house... zag is trapped alongside half of the crew (nyx, persephone, than, meg?)
@@daeity1 Sorry, what I meant was. Are they still in the house of Hades? Or Did Chronos already relocate everybody?
@@cameronrhodes1101 small disclaimer since i never played the game myself. but i've seen some clips and from what i can tell, they're most likely placed elsewhere ( like a pocket dimension or something like that ).
that or they're very much moved to the other side of the house... closer to the halls where achilles once stood / near hades' bed
@@cameronrhodes1101i play the game and as far as i know chronos keeps them in stasis hidden in some place that only he has access and to him thats mercy since he hasn’t killed them and according to hades chronos keeps them alive to keep hades in check.
The game is still on early access, im think chronos placed them inside of zag's room, frozen. But we can never be sure as there is zero evidence of it.
I can see Melinoe is nervous to meet her big brother.
Skelly's dead ass literally got drip💀
Imagine if someday, late in the development of the game, they add Zagreus as playable second character with his weapons (partially ported partially reworked, its okay if he would have less content for him like playable Vergil in past DMC games) after Mel save him fron Chronos
That would be awesome
Who is Skelly? This is the great Commander Schelemus.
And a hey thanks to you as well! Hail Melinoë she threw that right back with grace.
This game has made it so there's a genuine question of who craves finding Zagreus more: Melinoe or the fandom. 😂
I love mel but i miss zag so much
Fucking Melinoe. Scaring the shit out of me. Making me think Zagreus is dead.
He was imprisoned by his grandpa, so yeah
@@rossalbertdelacruz6751 I know.
I feel bad for Melinoe, her family loves her but she didn't know them or spent time with them when she grew up.
Yeah that's exactly what he would want her to do to me too
For you to hit me
All I can hear when that funny skeleton man speaks is Jerma
She's like the greek version of Starfire
I wonder if Skelly is their Grandfather on their mothers side, that as he was revived they had to wipe his memories in the Lethe.
i CACKLED at this, of course he'd go there
I love how he's called Schelemeus here, referencing back to his fake backstory in Hades 1where he calls himself Skelemeus.
Feels like skelly is even more full of it in this game. Especially since Melonie doesn’t know him as well as Zagreb’s did and isn’t as acquainted with his bs.
Imagine in the DLC (maybe) we play as zag (again)
Im missing Zagreus jokes and character, he had something that makes me want to listen what he says instead of skip. Returning to "lobby" is also not feeling special anymore, it looks kinda chaotic and without Zagreus and Hades "hating" each other.
I think that's kind of the point, because the tones of the two games are very different. Zagreus was living in a time of peace and order, and his venture out of the Underworld was a personal goal. For Melinoe, she was raised during a time of war and has this huge responsibility to kill Chronos. It's even implied that she was BORN for this reason. The investment in her character is seeing how she copes with the stress of her situation, finding little bits of peace and happiness even in their horrible situation, and how to live beyond her duty. Learning more about her family is just one way for her to cope, like remembering the good times and reminding her of why she, and subsequently the player, have to fight so hard
I get what you mean though I understand the reasoning behind it. For me, it's more, I don't really care as much for those in the crossroads? In H1, I liked and wanted to talk to everyone. In H2, there are some that actually kind of annoy me (Nem and Eris in particular, tho I know some people really like them). I thought I'd like Dora but she's kind of meh for me as well.
Also bc the situation seems more dire, I really just wanna keep getting out there faster.
I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop and for this to be a bit and I'm increasingly convinced that this is not a bit. I've been playing this game for days and I still haven't processed it.
Man, people are really convinced of this crackpot theory that Schelemeus is Skelly, huh?
"What he'd want...most of all... is for you to hit me...as hard as you can." Made me choke 😂
He went through a upgrades
Ugh I can't wait for console release...
Excuse me? Who's Skelly? Do you all mean schelemeus?
So this IS the same Skelly from Hades 1, yes? This isn’t a new character they added?
I mean yeah, it's pretty clear that it's Skelly, down to the accent and his masochistic need to be used as a training dummy.
One of Skelly's lines has him actually confess to being Schelemeus, though he quickly claims it was a gag. However, Asterius DOES remember tales of a Schelemeus, so...
Ngl being on console is killing this for me. I started the original after it was complete and didn't have it on my radar the whole time it was developed.
im sorry for your loss. the way information is disseminated so quickly nowadays has spoiled me on so much stuff I'd really rather experience myself. blatant thumbnail and title spoilers on social media, everywhere. it's ridiculous. you have to be a hermit to avoid it.
the one reason I miss zagreus is mostly because by the clips of the games, melinoe sounds so fucking cold to the people (albeit) she hasn't met yet, to me her desire to stop chronos isn't my cup of tea as opposed to zag who just wants to escape the underworld to meet his mother, melinoe kind of sounds like zuko during the early days of atla
Commander skelly 🫡
and when they do a Zagreus/Melinoe discourse like the Avatar fandom with Aang/Korra? #seated
I love how seriously melinoe takes skelly compared to Zag
Chaos was even like “Your brother is so much funnier than you”
yo why skelly kinda...
NO
I'm an atheist, but, *YOU MA'AM NEED JESUS!*
@@MrDibara are you sure you want jesus in my general vicinity
Skelly a lil freak no cap 🤪
Maybe zegraus will be asecret boss
The way she pronounces commander feels wrong
Idk, this game feels less interesting than Hades 1.
I know its still in early access but still...
It's not finished, the vision is not fully realized yet, that's why, I imagine.
Supergiant used to have lots of saturated colors, in Hades 1, it pops, red, teal, gems, metallics, this time the seem to go to more subdued approach, but yeah I agree, even the walkable grounds look less obvious gameplay wise, it used to be quite intuitive, but now it feels like late mid 2000s graying tone of games with so much added details and desaturations
You call a hair metal band made up of sirens boring?
Taste, I guess.
Haven't logged into Hades in over a year.
A friend gifted me Hades 2. I'm hooked. Played 30 hours in 4 days. And there's still so much content unexplored. If you consider the second part as an expansion to the first, it's a great project in general. More story, more gods, more abilities, more builds, more challenges.
@@remix2822 gameplay and story is alright but the world design is absolutely terrible compared to hades 1
Wait is Zag dead?
captured by chronos in a time chamber along with the rest of the family (except hades)
@@callumscott7550 appreciate the knowledge big dawg