Hypnos seems to be responding on the subconscious level, using phrases he's used a lot and are ingrained into his mind. From what I can see, they're all distortions of the things he'd say to Zagreus in Hades 1
Yeah and it's notable that he doesn't just mutter at random, the way Mel responds suggests that normally he doesn't say anything at all. On some level he is reacting to her. Whether or not there is in fact something he's trying to tell her, we'll just have to wait and see. Also his mental realm I think says something about him. For whatever Hypnos' flaws, he was probably more loyal to Hades than any other in the House (notably unlike basically every other named character in there, he never deliberately helps Zagreus defy Hades' will) and he did deeply look up to Thanatos. Those were two of the most important people in his life and they are who he clings to in this dream. A dream of when the House was working as intended.
I hope this is the route they go. Baiting players into assuming the gag is that he's going to have been babbling nonsense catchphrases and Mel is going to feel so shocked at the un-importance, THEN actually having it be genuine communication attempts.
@@JamesTobiasStewart I keep trying to see if there's a single coherent sentence to be deciphered from all of his sleep babble put together as one string of dialogue without Melinoe's interuptions. Provided that I'm not just going crazy, the best I could interpret it is as: "This is how you'll wake me up. This is a place where dreams become real."
Well, either than, or liberate hades, then, get him to crossroads, and just letting hades berade hypnos for slacking off on his job again. If that won't wake him up, he's beyond help.
I’m still hoping that the subplot doesn’t end up as just a gag. Its clear in Hades 1 that Hypnos cares very deeply about Thanatos and nyx, i dont think he’d sleep just because he can when they’re both in danger. If he’s still asleep in this dream i assume every time you give him another dream vapor in the future you’ll travel to a deeper level of his mind. We can see from the massive stacks of parchment that he feels overworked, maybe that’ll lead somewhere?
I definitely feel there may be some deeper connection with his dreams. On the note of dream vapors though, I get this feeling we’ll definitely be made to make more later down the line. Like, using progressively stronger and stronger ingredients, like Zodiac Sands from Chronos or even those Feathers from Prometheus, that way it becomes more potent and helps Hypnos “wake up” more in those dreams
@@DeanCalhoun In Greek mythology, Morpheus is one of Hypnos' sons. Imagine they just spring on us that during the time between Hades and Hades II Hypnos got married and had a kid. Not entirely impossible: In Hades, it's said that the mortals are currently in a war on the surface. In Greek mythology, during the Trojan War, Hypnos put Zeus to sleep for Hera, and in return, Hera let Hypnos marry Pasithea. So if the war they're referencing in Hades is the Trojan War, it's entirely possible that they could introduce Pasithea and/or Morpheus as characters.
I was thinking the same more likely he knows a secret pass in the place where Chronos put his throne (the office of Hades) Well maybe a secret Boss or whatever not a plot device since maybe the Fates are the true ending (all of this is just a theory)
Y'know, he says "Welcome to the how--" 'How' not 'Hou(se)' - and maybe the joke is on Melinoë, when it's us that knows he's saying "Welcome to the House of Hades," but what if he really means 'how' as in he's *doing something*. He does then say "dream come true"!
I agree with this. They can't kill Chronos, but they can put him to sleep. Hypnos once put the entire House of Hades asleep, so with a little help, he could probably keep Chronos asleep for a really long time. Defeating Chronos in this way would also work well with the game, since anytime Melinoë goes to fight Chronos again, she could be doing so to weaken him, helping Hypnos keep him asleep.
seems like has stuck in the dream. maybe Morpheus has something to do with it? though morph is his son in the canon so I don't know if he has been born yet as we have or may never meet the mother Pasithea.
@@soedragons3582 Not necessarily! Just because the Iliad already happened doesn't mean Hera has rewarded Hypnos for putting Zeus to sleep yet. Plus, the games already twist the myths around a bit to better suit their narrative. I think it would be really funny if they sprang on us that between Hades and Hades II, Hypnos got married and had (a) kid(s).
@@soedragons3582Also, it’s assumed that Hypnos got married to Pasithea after the Trojan war ended, and the Iliad takes place DURING the Trojan war. The war is still going on during Odysseus’ journey, as far as I’m aware. The point is there’s still a lot of ways this could chronologically make sense and I’m clinging to this theory like a leech lmao
@@Lionstar16 It was actually Nemesis, though she was being sarcastic and it flew right over Mel’s head. There was a conversation between them standing by Hypnos that was already in the game. Mel basically says something like he looks super knowledgeable and wise, and she really wishes he could help them. And Nem is like oh lol, he sure is wise, just wait until he wakes up.
She’s not gonna be happy when she finds out Hypnos was just spouting off catchphrases
I love the cardboard cutout drawings of Thanatos and Hades, presumably in Hypnos' style. Adds a fitting Psychonauts sort of energy to this scene.
BADED PSYCHONAUTS REFERENCE
PSYCHONAUTS REFERENCE FROTHS AT THE MOUTH
especially if you remember thanatos yelling at hypnos for doodling too much instead of taking actual notes
YES PSYCHONAUTS !!!
There is also a Red Shade, Either a Reference to the one in the Fighting Arena or Zagreus
Hypnos seems to be responding on the subconscious level, using phrases he's used a lot and are ingrained into his mind. From what I can see, they're all distortions of the things he'd say to Zagreus in Hades 1
Yeah and it's notable that he doesn't just mutter at random, the way Mel responds suggests that normally he doesn't say anything at all. On some level he is reacting to her. Whether or not there is in fact something he's trying to tell her, we'll just have to wait and see.
Also his mental realm I think says something about him. For whatever Hypnos' flaws, he was probably more loyal to Hades than any other in the House (notably unlike basically every other named character in there, he never deliberately helps Zagreus defy Hades' will) and he did deeply look up to Thanatos. Those were two of the most important people in his life and they are who he clings to in this dream. A dream of when the House was working as intended.
I hope this is the route they go. Baiting players into assuming the gag is that he's going to have been babbling nonsense catchphrases and Mel is going to feel so shocked at the un-importance, THEN actually having it be genuine communication attempts.
@@JamesTobiasStewart I keep trying to see if there's a single coherent sentence to be deciphered from all of his sleep babble put together as one string of dialogue without Melinoe's interuptions. Provided that I'm not just going crazy, the best I could interpret it is as: "This is how you'll wake me up. This is a place where dreams become real."
I think the only way to wake Hypnos is to free Thanatos from imprisonment and bring him to the Crossroads - the twin sons of Nyx need to be reunited
"I know exactly how to fix this."
*Thanatos slaps Hypnos across the face and it works.*
@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 Oh he will definitely do that lol
Are they really twins when Charon is their brother, too?
@@l.n.3372 Charon is their older brother
Well, either than, or liberate hades, then, get him to crossroads, and just letting hades berade hypnos for slacking off on his job again.
If that won't wake him up, he's beyond help.
I know there's a lot going on here but IS THAT THE SUPPORTIVE SHADE?????
i was wondering why it was red,i love this game
I thought it was meant to represent Zagreus after a run
You know I think it is...
@namelessechos5380 Why would Zagreus be represented as a shade if Thanatos and Hades are depicted as themselves?
OH sHIT MY MAN!!!!!!
I’m still hoping that the subplot doesn’t end up as just a gag. Its clear in Hades 1 that Hypnos cares very deeply about Thanatos and nyx, i dont think he’d sleep just because he can when they’re both in danger. If he’s still asleep in this dream i assume every time you give him another dream vapor in the future you’ll travel to a deeper level of his mind. We can see from the massive stacks of parchment that he feels overworked, maybe that’ll lead somewhere?
I definitely feel there may be some deeper connection with his dreams. On the note of dream vapors though, I get this feeling we’ll definitely be made to make more later down the line. Like, using progressively stronger and stronger ingredients, like Zodiac Sands from Chronos or even those Feathers from Prometheus, that way it becomes more potent and helps Hypnos “wake up” more in those dreams
Oh yeah.We're definitely pulling an Inception.
It could be the work of Morpheus
@@DeanCalhoun In Greek mythology, Morpheus is one of Hypnos' sons. Imagine they just spring on us that during the time between Hades and Hades II Hypnos got married and had a kid. Not entirely impossible:
In Hades, it's said that the mortals are currently in a war on the surface. In Greek mythology, during the Trojan War, Hypnos put Zeus to sleep for Hera, and in return, Hera let Hypnos marry Pasithea. So if the war they're referencing in Hades is the Trojan War, it's entirely possible that they could introduce Pasithea and/or Morpheus as characters.
The tiny cardboard Thanatos and the giant cardboard Hades is everything to me lmao.
Shoutout to the 2 little shades who still have to carry him even in the dream realms, those are some loyal, hardworking shades.
cardboard than and his chair… oh how hypnos loves his twin :cc
Melinoë thinks Hypnos is trying to communicate but he's just sleep talking his catchphrases. Between that and his snores.
Hypnos loves sleeping so much that he’s even asleep in his dreams😂😂😂
You know how loud I gasped?! THERE IS HOPE FOR OUR BOI!😭
I’m gonna lose my mind if one of his random quotes gives Mel idea defeating Chronos once and for all
I was thinking the same more likely he knows a secret pass in the place where Chronos put his throne (the office of Hades)
Well maybe a secret Boss or whatever not a plot device since maybe the Fates are the true ending (all of this is just a theory)
@@Morfe02 Or maybe that's where the family is kept
He's sleeping while already asleep? When can one learn such power? This could fix me...
I think that's called a coma.
Sleeping in a dream is crazy 😭 man I need this game.
It’s incredible even in the state it is now. It has at least double the content as Hades and it isn’t even complete yet.
i love that they used hades 1's death bgm.
Y'know, he says "Welcome to the how--" 'How' not 'Hou(se)' - and maybe the joke is on Melinoë, when it's us that knows he's saying "Welcome to the House of Hades," but what if he really means 'how' as in he's *doing something*. He does then say "dream come true"!
oh hypnos. never change
I saw the towels and I knew immediately where we are 😂
His boss is somewhere else, so as his mother. Dude finally get to be a lazy as he wants, and he is using this opportunity on 100%. He is really wise.
Maybe Hypnos can trap Chronos in this endless sleep realm
I agree with this. They can't kill Chronos, but they can put him to sleep. Hypnos once put the entire House of Hades asleep, so with a little help, he could probably keep Chronos asleep for a really long time. Defeating Chronos in this way would also work well with the game, since anytime Melinoë goes to fight Chronos again, she could be doing so to weaken him, helping Hypnos keep him asleep.
I wonder if the we get the other dream gods with these segments.
Morpheus, his son, would probably be of help
They're technically roman gods, so I doubt they'll show up.
Hypnos is in INCEPTION basically
Call the gods of DiCaprio and Cillian Murphy for help
The Thanatos cut out 😭
seems like has stuck in the dream. maybe Morpheus has something to do with it? though morph is his son in the canon so I don't know if he has been born yet as we have or may never meet the mother Pasithea.
Since Hades 1 happens after the Iliad, Hypnos should be a married god in both Hades1 and 2
@@soedragons3582 Not necessarily! Just because the Iliad already happened doesn't mean Hera has rewarded Hypnos for putting Zeus to sleep yet. Plus, the games already twist the myths around a bit to better suit their narrative. I think it would be really funny if they sprang on us that between Hades and Hades II, Hypnos got married and had (a) kid(s).
@@soedragons3582Also, it’s assumed that Hypnos got married to Pasithea after the Trojan war ended, and the Iliad takes place DURING the Trojan war. The war is still going on during Odysseus’ journey, as far as I’m aware. The point is there’s still a lot of ways this could chronologically make sense and I’m clinging to this theory like a leech lmao
@@juiceghost11 The Odyssey happens after the Iliad, heck, Odysseus travels home after winning the war against Troy.
@@soedragons3582 I thought it was just a battle he won, not the whole war. But fair if that’s not the case I haven’t read the whole thing tbh
Ooooh, Hypnos mind!!
Respectfully your honor, my client was eepy
Ilike that the hades hall in hypno's dream is very similar to the hall that hades 1 had on it's very early Access back in 2018
Aaand, he's still sleeping, shouldn't have excepted any less of you Hypnos.
Has anyone noticed that they reference his "have you tried not getting hit" line?
Cardboard hades 😭👍
Whys he gotta have such lovely hair.. 🫠
I think the red spectre cutout be Zagreus?
Zagreus fan
Dude be sleeping in hes dreams.........sounds about right
Hey You, you are finally awake.
This is as far as this goes for now, right?
Yeah. Gotta wait for the next big update
lol which sister said that??? xD
That's a good question - certainly not Nemesis. Maybe Eris is trolling Meli.
@@Lionstar16 It was actually Nemesis, though she was being sarcastic and it flew right over Mel’s head. There was a conversation between them standing by Hypnos that was already in the game. Mel basically says something like he looks super knowledgeable and wise, and she really wishes he could help them. And Nem is like oh lol, he sure is wise, just wait until he wakes up.
Shock horror it was Nem.
@@camelliasinensis219 Oh dear - guess someone needs to teach Meli about sarcasm
How do you unlock this? I beat Prometheus a few times already and I've had dialogue with Hades about Hypnos, not sure what I'm missing.
huh. theres a red spirit?
is there any way to get more dream vapors?
Maybe not spoil things in the title of the video, thanks.