She was also the one that persuaded Hades to let Orpheus get away with pulling Eurydice out of the underworld the first time around, it makes the most sense.
Once he learns how to do the incantations he would strangle the fates for their toying in his family’s lives. He wouldn’t kill them after all they are Nyx’s kids but he would definitely be rather cross
I just love the duality lmao. For firsy 10 runs, its like Bittersweet endings which brings lump to the throat and then there's after 10th run where Zagreus would return because he got hit with a rake to his face
Well, even if Zagreus knew, it's not like he could do anything about it. Sure, he can survive *on* the Styx, but going in it wouldn't be a good idea. And it's not like he could ask Charon for help. His job is ferrying people *to* the underworld, not out of it. So trying to get him to transport Zagreus to Persephone would directly violate his duties.
Friendly reminder that Cerberus roughly translates to "spotted one/spot" or "speckled". The name Cerberus is the Latinized version of Kerberos, which is the Greek word for "spotted" Which means Hades named his dog "Spot"
@jvdjevovdhe7613 no it's, absolutely a real theory with a lot of plausibility. There are two common theories, that it was based off of "Kreoboros" (which does actually translate to "flesh devouring"). However the other is based on "Kerberos" the original Greek spelling of the name (Cerberus is actually the Romanized one) and it is believed to be based on "Karbarah" and "Sabalah", both of which mean "spotted" or "speckled." So there is a very high chance his name *is* actually some version of "Spot". Though at the end of the day it will simply be based on what you decide is better. But both names are just as plausible.
Zagreus: "Wait, Mother! Why didn't you tell me I wouldn't fade away if I'm in the River Styx RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE! I could just simply build a platform house over this river and we can be together and see each other every day." Persephone: "Oh, that's would have been a much better idea than you dying so many times." Zagreus: "Mom, you know dying hurts..."
Not exactly, you still have some stuff to do in order to fully complete the story. Hades, Persephone and the other have much more to talk after this part and the real end.
Charon was needed for that to transpire, without him being there it was just a normal river. Charon wouldn’t show up unless it was important since his presence would alert the gods.
the problem isnt about dying. he is cursed by the sisters of fate about birthright stuff. those who was born in the underworld shall not leave the underworld. so even if you dip yourself in river styx like Achilles did, if fate say you go the f back to the underworld, well….that will happen
To be fair, the river seems to flow into the Underworld, so it'd be a hell of a time swimming to Mom. That said, he does ask Charon to give him a lift and is refused every time.
i remember bawling my eyes out when she told zagreus to never come visit her again. it just hurt so much to think that there was even a chance that everyone would just accept their unhappiness to keep to the status quo. one of my favorite games, easily
As far as I can tell, Nyx seemed to have spent a long, arduous, long, and magical process arguing with the Fates on some way to let Zagreus live. The only conclusion they can come to, I think... Was making Zag and Hades hate each other so much that Zag would never want to take over the Underworld and Hades would never allow Zag the opportunity. Essentially, metaphorically, forcing Zag out of the will when it comes to "inheritance."
NYX is a primordial goddess and she is powerful very powerful even Zeus is scared of her so it really would not surprise me that she believed the Fates and it really wouldn't surprise me if she's best friends with Persephone
@andreasottohansen7338 Not from the hair. Short hair does not necessarily mean Tomboy. She has spiky short hair on top, sure, I just get general tomboy vibes. I think it's the "I'm quite happy chilling here, fuck the big mountain" attitude.
It’s sad Persephone lost her chance at raising 2 children from childhood. Hopefully she’ll get the chance with her 2nd daughter. But now she has another co mom with Hecate.
The only ending which Zagreus doesn't need to die and able to carry over all of the boons and Charon obols. Charon : huuuurrrrgghhhh (pay up, all of those you carry over)
He throws himself into the fray again & again just to bring his mother back and repair his family. Never have I respected Zagreus more after that meeting.
@@CamperN00b47 Like his mother was giving him the most valid reasons to not go back home and then he just goes down and stutters, trying to repair everything, and you can see it from the tone of his voice
To be honest… the … art of how Persephone looked when she was happy… looks kinda creepy to me… I’m sure it was not the original intention. Thank you LKT, for completing all 10 runs just so we could see the entire epilogue. What a journey to watch this. Even though I have never completed a run myself. Really inspiring ! Really!
I think her portrait looks off because it's trying to show so many emotions at once: she's overjoyed to see Zagreus, but her memories from the Underworld are still painful. Then there's the sorrow that no sooner than he arrived, he must return to the Underworld
I disagree though. I found it very wholesome and sentimental. I can’t imagine the feeling of your child returning back to you after thinking they were dead for so long.
@@Teowashere I agree now. After having finished one run, I found out that her feelings are genuine. What I meant before, was the art.. I think I must have played too many “plot twist” kind of game where people show their real face, and I somehow was expecting a stab in the back kind of story this time too. Sorry guys.
@@SaitoLogan Its fine, people see things differently and may or may not be wrong. You are neither. You merely observed. No need to apologize, my good man.
No offence but if you are looking for a story in a rougelike you a playing the wrong genre that being said this does story the best out of basically any rougelike
@@maxpowers4436this one has a fantastic story overall though. What makes so good is the high ammount of dialogues across all the characters, + how well it represents the countless diferent myths its based upon, sure there are a lot of changes and creative freedoms which is just natural and necessary even, but its still fantastic.
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The entire game happens because hades can’t communicate anything emotional without Persephone
Bad dad moment
And then there's Hades II
It's as if Vegeta is the king.
Oh my God, you are so right. @@TonyBMan
And that he was afraid if he made the wrong choice everyone would die.
Orpheus and Eurydice welcomed their Queen Home. As if it couldn’t be any more wholesome
She was also the one that persuaded Hades to let Orpheus get away with pulling Eurydice out of the underworld the first time around, it makes the most sense.
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Imagine if we meet Zagreus in Hades 2 and Milenoe tells him about the surface incantation, he would probably pop a vein.
Oh he 100% would
Probably ran to crossroads and demand mel to give him incantation as well
@@yeeyw I don't think he'll demand for it, rather ask to be taught witchcraft and do the incantation himself
Once he learns how to do the incantations he would strangle the fates for their toying in his family’s lives. He wouldn’t kill them after all they are Nyx’s kids but he would definitely be rather cross
Bro, I'd like in couple years Hades 3 where you can do a coop run with zag and mel
I really like Zagreus didn't get angry at her for leaving him. He was just like "ah crap you didn't know too, huh?"
I just love the duality lmao. For firsy 10 runs, its like Bittersweet endings which brings lump to the throat and then there's after 10th run where Zagreus would return because he got hit with a rake to his face
Or because he slipped on a fricking Banana.
Or because he is just breathing
Or gets bit by a mosquito
or decides a bear seems perfectly cuddly
Or because he forgot to look both ways
Zag gets to be a bug tester for hell. Sweet gig
One of his employees is still mean to him though.
It’s not hell lol.
Oh my god, infinity blade pfp, hell take me
@@JJJJJJJJJAAAAAA good to see there are still people who remember the greatest mobile game of all time!
@@sundew3848Yes it is.
Zagreus: "Uh mom, I think I'm dying."
Persephone: "Ok, see you in half an hour."
Zagreus: "Half? Pfft, I'm gonna speed-run..." *DIES*
I never realized just how alike Zagreus and Persephone look until I saw this video's thumbnail.
Guess he got his spiky hair from his mother dearest 😂
@@zimacva3023good point
I'm still a bit salty that the river was BESIDE her house the ENTIRE TIME
Well, even if Zagreus knew, it's not like he could do anything about it. Sure, he can survive *on* the Styx, but going in it wouldn't be a good idea. And it's not like he could ask Charon for help. His job is ferrying people *to* the underworld, not out of it. So trying to get him to transport Zagreus to Persephone would directly violate his duties.
Zag on the surface : Ouch i felt a little tired and sick... dies*
Mel on the surface : i can't breath... dies* respawned* ok im gonna cheat fate-
Friendly reminder that Cerberus roughly translates to "spotted one/spot" or "speckled". The name Cerberus is the Latinized version of Kerberos, which is the Greek word for "spotted"
Which means Hades named his dog "Spot"
that's a myth it's just false
It’s called Greek mythology for a reason
I don't care if it's not true
@jvdjevovdhe7613 no it's, absolutely a real theory with a lot of plausibility. There are two common theories, that it was based off of "Kreoboros" (which does actually translate to "flesh devouring").
However the other is based on "Kerberos" the original Greek spelling of the name (Cerberus is actually the Romanized one) and it is believed to be based on "Karbarah" and "Sabalah", both of which mean "spotted" or "speckled."
So there is a very high chance his name *is* actually some version of "Spot". Though at the end of the day it will simply be based on what you decide is better. But both names are just as plausible.
yeah, and Zagreus also means "hunter of game", doesn't mean much since religion evolves over time
I wonder how scarring it is for Persephone to have that stack of her sons bodies. I guess its natural fertilizer.
He gets taken by the Styx he doesnt leave a body behind
Zagreus: "Wait, Mother! Why didn't you tell me I wouldn't fade away if I'm in the River Styx RIGHT NEXT TO YOUR HOUSE! I could just simply build a platform house over this river and we can be together and see each other every day."
Persephone: "Oh, that's would have been a much better idea than you dying so many times."
Zagreus: "Mom, you know dying hurts..."
So I just had to beat up Hades 10 times, because nobody had the idea that Zagreus would not die on the river Styx?
Not exactly, you still have some stuff to do in order to fully complete the story. Hades, Persephone and the other have much more to talk after this part and the real end.
Charon was needed for that to transpire, without him being there it was just a normal river.
Charon wouldn’t show up unless it was important since his presence would alert the gods.
the problem isnt about dying. he is cursed by the sisters of fate about birthright stuff. those who was born in the underworld shall not leave the underworld. so even if you dip yourself in river styx like Achilles did, if fate say you go the f back to the underworld, well….that will happen
To be fair, the river seems to flow into the Underworld, so it'd be a hell of a time swimming to Mom. That said, he does ask Charon to give him a lift and is refused every time.
i remember bawling my eyes out when she told zagreus to never come visit her again. it just hurt so much to think that there was even a chance that everyone would just accept their unhappiness to keep to the status quo. one of my favorite games, easily
As far as I can tell, Nyx seemed to have spent a long, arduous, long, and magical process arguing with the Fates on some way to let Zagreus live.
The only conclusion they can come to, I think...
Was making Zag and Hades hate each other so much that Zag would never want to take over the Underworld and Hades would never allow Zag the opportunity. Essentially, metaphorically, forcing Zag out of the will when it comes to "inheritance."
NYX is a primordial goddess and she is powerful very powerful even Zeus is scared of her so it really would not surprise me that she believed the Fates and it really wouldn't surprise me if she's best friends with Persephone
They really went and made Persephone a spiky haired cottage tomboy didn't they? No wonder Hades fell for her.
She is long haired past the spikes, so where do you get the tomboy?
@andreasottohansen7338 Not from the hair. Short hair does not necessarily mean Tomboy. She has spiky short hair on top, sure, I just get general tomboy vibes. I think it's the "I'm quite happy chilling here, fuck the big mountain" attitude.
@@Frozenkoldfury fair, I just see the long dress, long hair, and tending her own little place, and that combo doesn't scream "tomboy" to me
@@andreasottohansen7338Tomboys have always been about attitude.
@@Joseph_Siri fair enough, Persephone just strikes me as very matriarchal
It’s sad Persephone lost her chance at raising 2 children from childhood.
Hopefully she’ll get the chance with her 2nd daughter. But now she has another co mom with Hecate.
The only ending which Zagreus doesn't need to die and able to carry over all of the boons and Charon obols.
Charon : huuuurrrrgghhhh (pay up, all of those you carry over)
I imagine the boons disappear as soon as he feels the sunlight. But the charon coins must be taken when he enters the ship
The first one always gets me.
I just can’t with that image of happy Cerberus! Look at him! Look at those three faces! The goodest boy!
22:23 hits the hardest. Probably the hardest lines in the game. The hardest ones
He throws himself into the fray again & again just to bring his mother back and repair his family. Never have I respected Zagreus more after that meeting.
@@CamperN00b47 Yeah, again and again, I see that dialogue as an exhort to the player to fix issues that are meant to be solved. Even in his adulthood
@@CamperN00b47 Like his mother was giving him the most valid reasons to not go back home and then he just goes down and stutters, trying to repair everything, and you can see it from the tone of his voice
I watch this and also another vid of Achilles storyline with his boo whenever I need a pick me up. I love this game.
To be honest… the … art of how Persephone looked when she was happy… looks kinda creepy to me… I’m sure it was not the original intention.
Thank you LKT, for completing all 10 runs just so we could see the entire epilogue.
What a journey to watch this. Even though I have never completed a run myself.
Really inspiring ! Really!
I think her portrait looks off because it's trying to show so many emotions at once: she's overjoyed to see Zagreus, but her memories from the Underworld are still painful. Then there's the sorrow that no sooner than he arrived, he must return to the Underworld
I disagree though. I found it very wholesome and sentimental. I can’t imagine the feeling of your child returning back to you after thinking they were dead for so long.
@@Teowashere I agree now. After having finished one run, I found out that her feelings are genuine.
What I meant before, was the art.. I think I must have played too many “plot twist” kind of game where people show their real face, and I somehow was expecting a stab in the back kind of story this time too.
Sorry guys.
@@SaitoLogan Its fine, people see things differently and may or may not be wrong. You are neither. You merely observed. No need to apologize, my good man.
She's a serious woman who's overjoyed. Honestly it's sweet.
"All interactions" *keeps skipping*
I love how similar their hair is lol
The surface music was so beautiful, i hope Hades II matches it a bit
Voice acting masterclass these scenes.
Hades: Persephone… I..
Persephone: Cerberus! I missed you so!
I don’t know why I find this so funny.
THANKS!
You're welcome!
Persephone is BEST MOM
Wouldn't Zag be 2/3 God and 1/3 human?
Actually he should be full god
Well... hmmm 🤔
He’s 1/4th human, his moms a demigod
@@fashionovawigs He's 2/3 a hunk. I wish Dusa had a body. Then he'd be full hunk.
Persephone is a daughter of Demeter and Zeus, so that would make Zagreus a full on god
comments section is so good here lmao
i keep coming back
The worst way to have a conversation ever
Kinda disappointed with the quality of the story in the end :(
the epilogue? well it wasn't as strong as the main story for sure but I enjoyed it
No offence but if you are looking for a story in a rougelike you a playing the wrong genre that being said this does story the best out of basically any rougelike
@@maxpowers4436this and Binding of Isaac have the best stories from the genre
@@maxpowers4436this one has a fantastic story overall though. What makes so good is the high ammount of dialogues across all the characters, + how well it represents the countless diferent myths its based upon, sure there are a lot of changes and creative freedoms which is just natural and necessary even, but its still fantastic.