Persephone: However long it takes Narrator: And so Persephone never saw Zagreus again... Because the mortal who controls him sucks so much that he was never able to beat Hades a second time.
in ancient greek canon, Hades is probably the chillest and least problematic god in the entire pantheon. Which is pretty ironic considering how many stories paint him as the bad guy lol
@@am5ters504 I wouldn't call him exactly "the chillest" of the Greek Pantheon. In Greek Mythology, he's often depicted as stern, stoic, grim, and unpitying, but he was ultimately just and fair. As Edith Hamilton states in her book "Mythology", he was a terrible, but not evil, god (the ancient Greeks were terrified of death, and to Hades himself, which is why they would often use other names to refer to Hades). That said, he does show his soft spot to his wife Persephone, his dog Cerberus, and those who are able to move him, like what Orpheus did. While he is often depicted as a stoic deity, there are occasions where he was really pissed off. A good way to really get into his bad side is to either: a) try to raise the dead without his permission, b) try to cheat death, and c) try to steal his wife. Lastly, one reason why he isn't dickish to mortals is because he doesn't need to. He can just wait for them to die for them to be punished for their misdeeds, especially to those who have wronged him. After all, all mortals, without exception, will eventually die
@@titan133760 i mean... in comparison to the track records of his brothers, especially regarding women..... i’d regard him as pretty chill. There are rarely any myths where he takes direct action (as you said he doesnt need to) and even in the ones with him as a major player (aka orpheus) he’s not even actively doing anything, as it was ultimately really Orpheus’s own fault for things turning out the way they did
>if you eat an underworld pom, you can't leave the underworld for one month out of the year per seed >the sheer fucking amount of poms Zagreus regularly, repeatedly, consistently, gorges on ruh roh
Not according to this myth. Zag remains bound to his father's realm, and since he's technically dead, cannot remain in the land of the living for long.
Plus if she sees what we see, Zagreus is just being swallowed by a red river to be taken to the underworld. It would have been traumatising if she was fertilising her garden with all the rotting corpses Zagreus leaves behind.
Why do I have a feeling that Persephone, Zagreus, and Hades each get a head of Cerberus to pet and that is why Cerberus's one head doesn't like it when he pets the other head?
It almost funny how much this ending veers from the mood of Greek myth. I don't recall the gods ever behaving so maturely and healthily as a family. I like it though
i got really fucking sick of it after persephone came (cuz the credits rolled and the game wasnt over). terrible pacing. i kept playing cuz i saw a trophy that said "watch the epilogue" and got it yesterday and realized i wasted like 40 hours for a single image and some voice over describing my actions rather than enjoying the feast i worked so hard to organize.
@@genxer1824completing the entire Codex was so satisfying but more difficult than what I expected. Catching 2 Voidskates was the very last thing I had left in the Codex and it took me like 2 months alone 😢
I love how chill the Olympians were when they found out. They were just like “oh you got eloped with this guy? Cool! Let’s PARTY!” That is a family dynamic I can get behind
Apart from that they all generally like Zagreus (since you need to build affection with them before the plan gets put into motion) let's break it down. The Asterisk note that the god pretty much has no reason to care, apart from Demeter being hurt and her resulting famine causing the mortals to die off causing fewer offerings and likely interfering with their domain. Zeus - Already knows and went along with it Poseidon - * but is probably the least effected as his domain is the sea Athena - * but might already know, and of all the family is not only the most even keel, sees little wisdom in going to war over it Aphrodite - * but likely sees their family's love as truly genuine Artemis - * but frankly likes Zagreus more then the rest of her family Ares - * but is trying to get with Nyx so... Dionysus - * but gets the chance to empty the wine casks of Hades the god of riches and party where no god has partied before. Hermes - Already knows and went along with it Demeter - While upset, is also able to reunited with her daughter, realize her folly and discover she has a grandson
I do like the more positive tone of this game towards the end, I can't remember another light hearted story based on Greek Mythology since Disney's Hercules.
I mean, Persephone was still kidnapped, Demeter left the world barren for decades, and Zagreus lives among the dead, but yeah, compared to the original myths, it is light-hearted.
50:03 - love that Achilles is a better dad to Zag than Hades. Zag runs up like "I need help!!!" And Achilles is immediately like * *WORRIED* * "Oh Gods Oh No What's Wrong???"
This is a drama that should be seen more: sons and their fathers slowly building their confidence in one another to meet the other as a man. Its endearing, for me, in how the story shows all the mistakes that were made.
Yep until the family figured out what happens you still lie to thier asses to be honest war against olympus would not be a good thing, God of War has taught us this when heads started rolling and guts of gods spilling the ocean of men.
Zagreus perseveres and through sheer determination and passion reunites his mother and father and fixes their broken hearts allowing him to finally feel at home.
@@kenuty Technically Athena's also a god of war but more the tactical side so really would want to be on the opposing side from Athena or Nike(victory) then you throw more berserker god of war style Ares...
The soundtrack is so good it surprised me fr I can actually jam to this. I almost want to buy it lol. Ooh and even the beat before you fight charon and some boss fights are so entrancing I love it. One of my favorite games
"Uncle Zeus is glad things didn’t turn out worse for him. I get the sense he acts a bit impulsively at times." Oh, the stories your father could tell... what about that one time he turned into a sawn... or when he mad that woman fall in love with a bull... frankly half of Greece is probably related to you.
Actually, all the Greeks are his distant relatives at the time, but, surprisingly, Zeus is not the one to blame. At least, it's not directly his fault; the thing is after Zeus punished humanity with the flood for stealing of the Olympian Fire by the Prometheus, Prometheus's son Ducalion repopulated the Earth with humans... well, he used stones and with help of Zeus they teuned into the humans... Damn. It's all Zeus's fault all over again!
This poor kid needs a phone to call his mom. I feel bad for Persephone watching her kid die again and again, with Zagreus trying to escape again and again.
A family of divinity in Greek mythology ending up being well adjusted and able to see past their flaws to love eachother? And to think all it took was... *looks at paper* the constant death and rebirth of a son who's only sin was demanding answers.... Huh...nvm, nothing out of the ordinary here.
Not really! It’s actually established in the game that Zegreus isn’t very tactful in mending relationships, though effective if only through perseverance.
Hermes knows of Zagreus’s intentions, and hasn’t told the others yet. He should have him deliver letters. I feel bad for the two, seeing her son die again and again, and him having to flee again and again.
I love how this is so deliberately the important stuff and context that develops around it, and Cerberus is still present because he is, in fact, very important context.
Thanks for this, I couldn't will myself to keep clearing to finish it after having played so much in early access. The story turned out surprisingly well I think
np, it's pretty long and grueling to do it multiple times in hell mode where it was much harder but the story of the game is good, just wished there was more content instead of narration.
@@kenuty The story is amazing: A son who fights his way out of hell to meet his mother. Especially if it's Persephone. Hades & Persephone are the most intriguing couples in Greek myths, and this takes on a new angle of their stories together. If you want more stories of H&P, check out Hadestown or Lore Olympus.
Wait, you couldn't keep willing yourself to finish it time after time? But the game is so good! I'm upping the temperature on all weapons. I'm now near and expecting eagerly the 10th level temperature, to see what Hades looks like when he is improved. I can't wait to play it again over and over, honestly.
I was planning to do this but you got ahead of me, props to you, wrong timing on the epilogue though, the epilogue starts at 1:11:00 when the olympians meet up which is when the trophy occurs or rather 1:08:25 when the convesation about the olympians kick in.
They’re so damn good at making it so that throwing your head against the wall after you’ve beat the game is still considered canon and part of the game
First I am spoiling the hell out of this for myself yet I am still playing this awesome game. Second my God the dialogue and voice acting! This is S tier stuff
34:39 I mean considering the circumstances of the relationships of several other Olympians (cough cough Zeus cough cough) Hades and Persephone were rather tame in comparison.
There never was and most probably never will be again such an epically powerful credit ending roll in video games. Persephone & Zagreus being chaperoned by Charon down by the Styx river to the "In The Blood" track is going to stay forever as a new classic.
I've only got to escape 2-3 times, suffering with every attempt, so thank you for putting it all in one piece. This is such a good story with myriad of details. Bravo, Supergiant
lol, half of Greek mythology in a nutshell: Zeus: "Oh, that woman is lovely, I am gonna turn into an animal and seduce her. Nothing can go wrong with that plan." Then everything goes wrong and Zeus is always to blame XD
Thanks a lot for the upload, I wanted to see how the story continues, but didn't have the patience to beat the game so many more times after already doing it in early access. I didn't watch everything though and now I have more drive to finish the game myself.
Hi Kenuty! We're working on a video essay about Hades and are in the middle of collecting some footage from the game. Mind if we use footage from your video in ours? We'll link to your channel in the description - let us know by replying here or tweeting at us @wisecrack! Thanks!
I am super intrigued with this story of Zagreus and Persephone and every interaction they have, I can picture in my head like an animated short. I love it.
@@kenuty It's gotten to a point that mortals now view Zagreus as some sort of "boogeyman" causing chaos in the underworld. For that reason, they are living a safer life, hoping they don't die early
Ah yes another one hour of watching the story unfold and getting wrapped up in the lore but not having played a single minute of the game. One of those nights i guess.
Dude. Thank you so much for uploading this. Even though the game is absolutely enjoyable to replay it over and over again. I couldn't control my curiousity. So thank you again, for making this available.
Just got this ending and enjoyed it. Though I really think they missed a trick by being in the house of hades and going round talking to all the gods during the feast
For the epilogue I’d have loved pictures of Zagreus showing Coronacht to Artemis, or drinking with Dionysus, or arm wrestling with Ares or SOMETHING. It felt so underwhelming
When I finally beat Hades for the first time, I genuinely cried a bit when Zag and Pers had this brief interaction. Such heavy emotions and news for both of them, I do wonder how brief Zag is able to stay in the overworld. Usually, a brief moment for Gods is like many years for mortals.
Thanks for this. I have to admit i am a little disappointed that the final cutscene is only an interaction between Zeus and Hades. Why not showing the other gods? Demeter notably
Probably because making 3D models for all of them for that scene would be too much. Alternatively because it might’ve just felt hard to write organic dialogue between all the gods. I mean think of the combinations
I don't know for sure but I can tell you this, keep talking to the mother, Keep gifting her, gift EVERYONE especially the olympians and beat the father a few time and eventually she comes to this conversation.
It's a long process it take some time. Some people say that this dialogue shows up after talking a lot of times with Persefone but some people say that you must complete multiple runs with at least 8 of heath to get that dialogue to appear.
They added a fates scroll that describes it in game now. Basically you have to get a bunch of the olympian gods to max hearts, likely some of them unlocked with ambrosia (not all though). Once you get all the Olympian gods liking you she is willing to throw the celebration.
I pretty sure that the R34 folks are very thankful for the varied groans and moans of Zag each time the Styx takes him. A veritable gold-mine for sure.
@@soul6733 Pretty much, the thing about Greek Mythology is that there really is no set canon. It just depends on who is telling the story. Unless we are talking things like The Odyssey where there is set canon for that one. Example: Herakles kills Hippolyta during the task to get her girdle but Theseus later marries her after Herakles sets him free from the underworld.
I'd LOVE to see a DLC with an alternative ending, where the gods find out the truth before being invited to hell and you actually fight the war they talked about. You could fight all of the gods, even chaos, and through the gods being unable to win (maybe not dying completely...), they acknowledge the whole situation and support it. I think that would be super interesting and just flat out awesome.
All the hours you put in this game, see thats what it takes to create a functioning god family in greek mythology, and this is one of the best case scenarios too XD
1:03:27 I like to think that when Hades said this, Persephone was internally just like, "well I was thinking about something a bit more complicated than that but now that you mention it..."
So you have to go through the various stages of Hell numerous times to be strong enough to escape, and then go back and forth after you’ve escaped to have short convos to finally return to hell for good
![The Story of Orpheus and Eurydice [Orpheus and Eurydice Interactions] Hades v1.0 Gameplay](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/BpLDi4_dRL8/mqdefault.jpg)
Persephone: However long it takes
Narrator: And so Persephone never saw Zagreus again... Because the mortal who controls him sucks so much that he was never able to beat Hades a second time.
I love how we play as a tempered brat, to a concerned child, to a functioning adult working full time as head security throughout the game.
Godling ADD in a nutshell
Fits perfectly into Zagreus not being Hades heir, after all his domain is not Ruler of the Underworld, but now helping prevent escape in his own way.
I like how the first thing Hades wants to tell Persephone is that the dog is doing just fine.
I dont Understand ? I have escaped but the game didnt end? DOest it mean I have to keep escaping to complete the story?
@@alternateperspective5 Yes. 10 times to be exact
Hades on another story : villain
Hades on his POV story : drama king
I prefer the POV version.
in ancient greek canon, Hades is probably the chillest and least problematic god in the entire pantheon. Which is pretty ironic considering how many stories paint him as the bad guy lol
@@am5ters504 I wouldn't call him exactly "the chillest" of the Greek Pantheon. In Greek Mythology, he's often depicted as stern, stoic, grim, and unpitying, but he was ultimately just and fair. As Edith Hamilton states in her book "Mythology", he was a terrible, but not evil, god (the ancient Greeks were terrified of death, and to Hades himself, which is why they would often use other names to refer to Hades). That said, he does show his soft spot to his wife Persephone, his dog Cerberus, and those who are able to move him, like what Orpheus did.
While he is often depicted as a stoic deity, there are occasions where he was really pissed off. A good way to really get into his bad side is to either: a) try to raise the dead without his permission, b) try to cheat death, and c) try to steal his wife.
Lastly, one reason why he isn't dickish to mortals is because he doesn't need to. He can just wait for them to die for them to be punished for their misdeeds, especially to those who have wronged him. After all, all mortals, without exception, will eventually die
@@titan133760 i mean... in comparison to the track records of his brothers, especially regarding women..... i’d regard him as pretty chill. There are rarely any myths where he takes direct action (as you said he doesnt need to) and even in the ones with him as a major player (aka orpheus) he’s not even actively doing anything, as it was ultimately really Orpheus’s own fault for things turning out the way they did
@@am5ters504 The reason why there are few tales about him is because the Greeks avoided doing so because they were terrified of him
Someone get this poor kid a cell phone
Or let him write letters Hermès can deliver them no problem
@@Gooberwares sadly if Hermes were to find out he'd have to report back to Olympus
@@joshuaemmanuelcosme144 Hermès is a trickster there’s no promises.
To be honest I think Charon set up this whole thing to bring perse back
cell phone uses EM waves which zeus could intercept
@@joshuaemmanuelcosme144 hermes actually knows of persephone, there is a specific interaction where he mentions he knows what he is up to
>if you eat an underworld pom, you can't leave the underworld for one month out of the year per seed
>the sheer fucking amount of poms Zagreus regularly, repeatedly, consistently, gorges on
ruh roh
So that’s why he keeps dying
Not according to this myth.
Zag remains bound to his father's realm, and since he's technically dead, cannot remain in the land of the living for long.
Bruh
Turns out it was propaganda lol
@@youngthinker1 Doesn't Hades have to power to return the dead?
So basically this game is one entire awkward thanksgiving family reunion...
And hell is strangely safer than Earth this season.
Pretty much yeah thats how it is
And for some reason, Hades is the most sensible of all the Olympian Gods, choosing not to be bothered on the shenanigans of Mt. Olympus.
And it didn't end in an all out war! Spectacular! My Thanksgivings never go that well.
I'm sure watching her son die over and over right in front of her isn't traumatic at all for Persephone.
Probably not, Greek mythologies remember are GODS and from games/movies always have these type of idgaf attitudes most of the time portrayed.
And considering she was the queen of the realm of the dead, it was probably fairly common for her at that point.
Plus if she sees what we see, Zagreus is just being swallowed by a red river to be taken to the underworld. It would have been traumatising if she was fertilising her garden with all the rotting corpses Zagreus leaves behind.
@@RaijinKaze Well, traumatizing for us. Who knows how gods think.
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT
Why do I have a feeling that Persephone, Zagreus, and Hades each get a head of Cerberus to pet and that is why Cerberus's one head doesn't like it when he pets the other head?
THIS THIS IS MY HEADCANNON NOW
@@spectron5012 pun intended
Aa now that's theory that i can get behind
Which cerberus head gives the best head?
YOU!!!...YOU MY DEAR SIR, ARE A GENIUS!!!
It almost funny how much this ending veers from the mood of Greek myth. I don't recall the gods ever behaving so maturely and healthily as a family. I like it though
Dratio especially Zeus, his “relationship “ with mortals pissed off Athena way too much.
@@phuct4980 so much so that when Arachne weaved Zues's "relationships" she got so pissed she cursed her.
Supposedly, Hades and Persephone was one of the more ‘functional’ families in Greek mythology.
well as a great god once said
"I am Zeus and I always ask for consent"
@@darter9000 I mean he stole her quite literally stole her but I guess she is the most functional family compare to Zeus and Poseidon and other gods
Never bought the bed for Cerberus. This is unacceptable, and my day is ruined
Oh man that was the first thing I bought the moment I saw it. Cerb items #1 priority.
Yakışmadı baran.
I read this in Hades' voice and elocution héhé
It's Spot not Cerberus
@@purplestar322 Wut
Supergiant: Not only making a compelling roguelike....but making a compelling reason to complete it over, and over, and over again.
And it's the best one.
And even after the true ending, there's the REAL final challenge to complete: catching a Voidskate.
i got really fucking sick of it after persephone came (cuz the credits rolled and the game wasnt over). terrible pacing. i kept playing cuz i saw a trophy that said "watch the epilogue" and got it yesterday and realized i wasted like 40 hours for a single image and some voice over describing my actions rather than enjoying the feast i worked so hard to organize.
@@genxer1824completing the entire Codex was so satisfying but more difficult than what I expected. Catching 2 Voidskates was the very last thing I had left in the Codex and it took me like 2 months alone 😢
"that thing.....that's the sun....>gets sniped by apollo>"
Helios and Apollo are both somehow the sun god.
@@maximaldinotrap wasn't helios a titan/regional god that Apollo just took ove the sun job from?
Helios is the God of the Sun...Apollo is the god of light
@@vodkaEditz nah, helios is sun personified and apollo is god of the sun
@@benrogers9082 nah bro you're wrong...apollo is the god of the light and music
I love how chill the Olympians were when they found out. They were just like “oh you got eloped with this guy? Cool! Let’s PARTY!” That is a family dynamic I can get behind
Apart from that they all generally like Zagreus (since you need to build affection with them before the plan gets put into motion) let's break it down. The Asterisk note that the god pretty much has no reason to care, apart from Demeter being hurt and her resulting famine causing the mortals to die off causing fewer offerings and likely interfering with their domain.
Zeus - Already knows and went along with it
Poseidon - * but is probably the least effected as his domain is the sea
Athena - * but might already know, and of all the family is not only the most even keel, sees little wisdom in going to war over it
Aphrodite - * but likely sees their family's love as truly genuine
Artemis - * but frankly likes Zagreus more then the rest of her family
Ares - * but is trying to get with Nyx so...
Dionysus - * but gets the chance to empty the wine casks of Hades the god of riches and party where no god has partied before.
Hermes - Already knows and went along with it
Demeter - While upset, is also able to reunited with her daughter, realize her folly and discover she has a grandson
@@Hammer9001Cool comment! This is actually quite healthier than the actually story
I think it's less about them being chill about it, and more "maybe it's best we just bury the hatchet and move on from this"
They forgot Hera and Hephaestus …
@@Freshboii_tru One of Hera's domains is weddings and marriage, so yeah, she's fine with it.
Hades after getting beaten the first time really said "gaslight, gatekeep, godboss"
Zagreus: "I've died on purpose every time just to see you."
Hypnos: "NATURAL CAUSES AGAIN? WOWEE I BET THAT WAS FUN"
I like how the narrator describes how luxurious Hade's wardrobe is only to reveal it's nothing but capes.
The Narrator is the same voice actor as Hades.. I think this might be an internal joke.
@@GoblinWizardry If they kept the narrator for Hades 2 (which I think they did), they’re actually Homer!
@@alpacawizardman6778 they seems sounds very similar, I like to think it's the same narrator and Homer has been with us since
I do like the more positive tone of this game towards the end, I can't remember another light hearted story based on Greek Mythology since Disney's Hercules.
Look at Immortals Fenix Rising
@@sirrparker47 Definitely Immortals that was a good one
Read Lore Olympus. Hades and Persephone are written very differently but still very well, and it’s beautifully drawn with a lovely story.
Uh, does Percy Jackson count? It can get pretty dark at times, but it ends on a light hearted note.
I mean, Persephone was still kidnapped, Demeter left the world barren for decades, and Zagreus lives among the dead, but yeah, compared to the original myths, it is light-hearted.
50:03 - love that Achilles is a better dad to Zag than Hades.
Zag runs up like "I need help!!!" And Achilles is immediately like * *WORRIED* * "Oh Gods Oh No What's Wrong???"
Hades might be his father, but Achilles and Patroclus are his dads. And he even said, Persephones warm motherly vibes reminded zagreus of him.
@@cogitae Patroculus.!!?? In what sense is he Zagreus' dad? Just because he gave him a few gifts and talked to him nicely?
There is more than just one way, to be someone's father.
also probably because Achilles is extremely gay in this game frfr
more like a big brother i'd say.
honestly, zagreus' relationship with his dad is kind of endearing at times
In what fucked up world
This is a drama that should be seen more: sons and their fathers slowly building their confidence in one another to meet the other as a man.
Its endearing, for me, in how the story shows all the mistakes that were made.
I'm not crying, someone grew some really potent onions in the gardens of the Underworld.
But only Poms of power grow in the Underworld...
@@Majin_Koolaid onions grow in erebus
so we work our ass and reach the surface after dying a billion times just to come back again and to become a security maintanence man ?
Yep until the family figured out what happens
you still lie to thier asses
to be honest war against olympus would not be a good thing, God of War has taught us this when heads started rolling and guts of gods spilling the ocean of men.
@@kenuty Technically speaking, it's a war nobody of them can lose, least of all Hades and Zagreus. It's just really darn tedious.
Zagreus perseveres and through sheer determination and passion reunites his mother and father and fixes their broken hearts allowing him to finally feel at home.
@@kenuty It's implied that the Olympians actually know what the real circumstances are, but they'd rather move on
@@kenuty Technically Athena's also a god of war but more the tactical side so really would want to be on the opposing side from Athena or Nike(victory) then you throw more berserker god of war style Ares...
Eurydice and Orpheus's song "In the Blood" is so....stupidly good. Gosh its so good.
The soundtrack is so good it surprised me fr I can actually jam to this. I almost want to buy it lol. Ooh and even the beat before you fight charon and some boss fights are so entrancing I love it. One of my favorite games
"Uncle Zeus is glad things didn’t turn out worse for him. I get the sense he acts a bit impulsively at times."
Oh, the stories your father could tell... what about that one time he turned into a sawn... or when he mad that woman fall in love with a bull... frankly half of Greece is probably related to you.
Actually, all the Greeks are his distant relatives at the time, but, surprisingly, Zeus is not the one to blame. At least, it's not directly his fault; the thing is after Zeus punished humanity with the flood for stealing of the Olympian Fire by the Prometheus, Prometheus's son Ducalion repopulated the Earth with humans... well, he used stones and with help of Zeus they teuned into the humans...
Damn. It's all Zeus's fault all over again!
Oh the Bull was Posidons fault, not him
@@apinchofstars5465 the bull of minos was posidon. I'm talking about Europa. Different bull entirety.
@@matthewpopow6647 Ohhh I forgot that one
@@apinchofstars5465 Isn't it's the same bull Poseidon yeeted to space?
This poor kid needs a phone to call his mom. I feel bad for Persephone watching her kid die again and again, with Zagreus trying to escape again and again.
A family of divinity in Greek mythology ending up being well adjusted and able to see past their flaws to love eachother? And to think all it took was... *looks at paper* the constant death and rebirth of a son who's only sin was demanding answers.... Huh...nvm, nothing out of the ordinary here.
17:47 Love how Chaos gave the finishing blow for being cursed out by Hades
Chaos' laughter is because of the Cosmic Egg. One of the God's favors is killing Hades while bearing the cosmic egg as your keepsake.
i love the idea of a progenitor god just fucking smiting random gods and giggling about it
1:16:15
90% of Greek Mythos: "ZUES, STOP! DON'T PUT YOUR DI- too late..."
*Inserts that Meme with Arnold Schwarzenegger running* NO ZEUS DONT DO IT
Even more fitting that, in Greek Mythology, Zeus is the father of Zagreus, not Hades.
@@littlemissunoriginal4337 in some versions Zeus..in others, Hades .
@@maxim196 In others Zag is Dionysos
Y'know Hades, a lot of this crap would've been resolved a lot easier if you just told the kid about this stuff.
He honestly handled it better than how Zeus settled it up from the beginning
To be fair - a lot of Greek myth boils down to this.
Not really! It’s actually established in the game that Zegreus isn’t very tactful in mending relationships, though effective if only through perseverance.
You might relate how adult children's relationships with their blood kin grow and metastasize the more the children become independent.
@@aerialjordan2683 yup
Hermes knows of Zagreus’s intentions, and hasn’t told the others yet. He should have him deliver letters. I feel bad for the two, seeing her son die again and again, and him having to flee again and again.
I love how this is so deliberately the important stuff and context that develops around it, and Cerberus is still present because he is, in fact, very important context.
Thanks for this, I couldn't will myself to keep clearing to finish it after having played so much in early access. The story turned out surprisingly well I think
np, it's pretty long and grueling to do it multiple times in hell mode where it was much harder but the story of the game is good, just wished there was more content instead of narration.
@@kenuty for the price its the best deal in a very long time!
@@kenuty The story is amazing: A son who fights his way out of hell to meet his mother. Especially if it's Persephone. Hades & Persephone are the most intriguing couples in Greek myths, and this takes on a new angle of their stories together.
If you want more stories of H&P, check out Hadestown or Lore Olympus.
That's why you havte to play so little in game's with an early access.
Wait, you couldn't keep willing yourself to finish it time after time? But the game is so good! I'm upping the temperature on all weapons. I'm now near and expecting eagerly the 10th level temperature, to see what Hades looks like when he is improved. I can't wait to play it again over and over, honestly.
Dusa is obviously Medusa's spirit since Medusa's head should be on Athena's Aegis.
The joke is indeed *maid* Dusa.
Well Medusa did have 3 sisters also cursed to be gorgons
Ending 1 - 0:00
Ending 2 - 10:00
Ending 3 - 16:46
Ending 4 - 24:44
Ending 5 - 30:13
Ending 6 - 33:36
Ending 7 - 41:50
Ending 8 - 46:46
Ending 9 - 51:45
Ending 10 - 54:00
Credits - 57:45
[Fixed timing on the epilogue]
Post-credits - 1:01:50
Epilogue - 1:08:25 (preparation) 1:11:00 (cutscene)
I was planning to do this but you got ahead of me, props to you, wrong timing on the epilogue though, the epilogue starts at 1:11:00 when the olympians meet up which is when the trophy occurs or rather 1:08:25 when the convesation about the olympians kick in.
@@kenuty Fixed. Thank you for the video!
@@kenuty you could pin this comment and give a heart you know
I was wondering how many successful runs it would take to get the full story. 10!
@@WonderSparkPuppets1 You'd need a lot of runs to get the dialogues necessary to give the invitations to each of the Olympians as well
I like how when Achilles talks to Zagreus at 39:12, they say not even rumors can go around, but a shade comes up to them, smirks and leaves 💀
They’re so damn good at making it so that throwing your head against the wall after you’ve beat the game is still considered canon and part of the game
Apollo is not happy that he didn't get a cameo in game and that he never get an invitation.
Hephaestus isn't too chuffed, either, I don't think.
@@Landis963 Also Hera which I am so bummed about
@@mxyellowo Oh, fuck, she'd have a TON to say about the Stygian hash of a marriage Hades and Persephone have. Dang! Maybe in DLC?
@@Landis963 I hope so
@@Landis963 Well, his own mother yeeted him off of Mount Olympus...
Family therapy 101
supergiant just NEVER misses with their games. Bastion, Transistor, and now Hades. true masterpieces, all of them
You're forgetting about Pyre chief. That was a godlike game too.
I like the concept of Eurydice and Orpheus as a metal duo. Nice fit.
First I am spoiling the hell out of this for myself yet I am still playing this awesome game. Second my God the dialogue and voice acting! This is S tier stuff
awsome, spoiling stuff but you can still enjoy it, Did the same before
Nice touch that the first time you kill Hades with the Cosmic Egg that you can faintly hear Chaos chuckling.
34:39
I mean considering the circumstances of the relationships of several other Olympians (cough cough Zeus cough cough) Hades and Persephone were rather tame in comparison.
The first time you escape and come back I don’t know why but I love how Zagreus says “wait, what?” when Hades is faking ignorance.
There never was and most probably never will be again such an epically powerful credit ending roll in video games. Persephone & Zagreus being chaperoned by Charon down by the Styx river to the "In The Blood" track is going to stay forever as a new classic.
SOMEBODY FINALLY PUT ALL OF IT TOGETHER IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! TYSM!
I've only got to escape 2-3 times, suffering with every attempt, so thank you for putting it all in one piece.
This is such a good story with myriad of details. Bravo, Supergiant
55:24 I like how you say WTF when he just lets you go
1:16:20 Oh Zagreus... You have no idea how right you are😂
lol, half of Greek mythology in a nutshell:
Zeus:
"Oh, that woman is lovely, I am gonna turn into an animal and seduce her. Nothing can go wrong with that plan."
Then everything goes wrong and Zeus is always to blame XD
Start up the 'it's always sunny in Philadelphia' song
Thanks a lot for the upload, I wanted to see how the story continues, but didn't have the patience to beat the game so many more times after already doing it in early access. I didn't watch everything though and now I have more drive to finish the game myself.
Hi Kenuty! We're working on a video essay about Hades and are in the middle of collecting some footage from the game. Mind if we use footage from your video in ours? We'll link to your channel in the description - let us know by replying here or tweeting at us @wisecrack! Thanks!
Go for it, It's compilation of the ending meant for all to enjoy
@@kenuty Thanks kenuty, appreciate it! We'll let you know when the video is out :)
I am super intrigued with this story of Zagreus and Persephone and every interaction they have, I can picture in my head like an animated short. I love it.
Wow so the game never really ends that’s amazing
nope, he becomes sorta like a security guard for the family to make sure no one escapes from the underworld as an excuse.
@@kenuty yeh just realized that
@@kenuty It's gotten to a point that mortals now view Zagreus as some sort of "boogeyman" causing chaos in the underworld. For that reason, they are living a safer life, hoping they don't die early
song in credits is really good wth. Thanks for upload this
Nyx is the real MVP.
Ah yes another one hour of watching the story unfold and getting wrapped up in the lore but not having played a single minute of the game. One of those nights i guess.
Dude. Thank you so much for uploading this. Even though the game is absolutely enjoyable to replay it over and over again. I couldn't control my curiousity.
So thank you again, for making this available.
Thanks. I myself couldn't reach this damned random epilogue after 100+ hours of playtime.
This is one of the few games in many that I have played that actually made me cry. Bless this game, I hope there's more of it.
I watched this cuz I'm having a hard time getting passed Hades. Now I wanna play even more to get all this.
29:38 scared the shit outta me, been dealing with enough PC problems already lately, thought a USB port had given out or something.
Just got this ending and enjoyed it. Though I really think they missed a trick by being in the house of hades and going round talking to all the gods during the feast
Shakespearean to put something 'too big' off stage. It makes the mind go wild.
10 clears is abit much. I like the game in all but I got other stuff to play. Thanks for this.
Ending 1 - 0:00
Ending 2 - 10:00
Ending 3 - 16:46
Ending 4 - 24:44
Ending 5 - 30:13
Ending 6 - 33:36
Ending 7 - 41:50
Ending 8 - 46:46
Ending 9 - 51:45
Ending 10 - 54:00
For the epilogue I’d have loved pictures of Zagreus showing Coronacht to Artemis, or drinking with Dionysus, or arm wrestling with Ares or SOMETHING. It felt so underwhelming
When I finally beat Hades for the first time, I genuinely cried a bit when Zag and Pers had this brief interaction. Such heavy emotions and news for both of them, I do wonder how brief Zag is able to stay in the overworld. Usually, a brief moment for Gods is like many years for mortals.
Thanks for this. I have to admit i am a little disappointed that the final cutscene is only an interaction between Zeus and Hades. Why not showing the other gods? Demeter notably
Probably because making 3D models for all of them for that scene would be too much.
Alternatively because it might’ve just felt hard to write organic dialogue between all the gods. I mean think of the combinations
00:00 1st escape
10:00 2nd escape
16:48 3rd escape
24:47 4th escape
30:13 5th escape
33:35 6th escape
41:50 7th escape
46:48 8th escape
51:45 9th escape
54:00 10th escape
Cerebus blep for the win...
1:08:25 how did you get to this conversation with his mom? or rather, what did you have to do? Still stuck on normal conversations with her.
Want to know as well
I don't know for sure but I can tell you this, keep talking to the mother, Keep gifting her, gift EVERYONE especially the olympians and beat the father a few time and eventually she comes to this conversation.
It's a long process it take some time. Some people say that this dialogue shows up after talking a lot of times with Persefone but some people say that you must complete multiple runs with at least 8 of heath to get that dialogue to appear.
They added a fates scroll that describes it in game now. Basically you have to get a bunch of the olympian gods to max hearts, likely some of them unlocked with ambrosia (not all though). Once you get all the Olympian gods liking you she is willing to throw the celebration.
me: uh persephone if styx aint part of the mortal realm then why ain’t you just let zagreus stay in a raft or sumn on that river next to you??
no raft can survive the Styx for long. Charon is the only ferryman for a reason.
Zagreus: I'll be Back
Terminator: "Someone hold my time machine*
I pretty sure that the R34 folks are very thankful for the varied groans and moans of Zag each time the Styx takes him.
A veritable gold-mine for sure.
Dude. Thanks a bunch for this video. I listen to it, casually, if you will. The voice acting, story, everything. Love it. Thanks my guy.
I love how THIS game gives a reason to hades being so villanous, unlike every other media where he is the villain for no reason.
So, wait, the whole pomegranate thing is a rude? Clever, very clever
I think you mean ruse
Well according the mythology it was Hades who force her to eat pomegranate to have her stay with her
@@RK-jt4yc Depends. In other versions, she herself spontaneously eat them.
@@soul6733 Pretty much, the thing about Greek Mythology is that there really is no set canon. It just depends on who is telling the story. Unless we are talking things like The Odyssey where there is set canon for that one.
Example: Herakles kills Hippolyta during the task to get her girdle but Theseus later marries her after Herakles sets him free from the underworld.
I'd LOVE to see a DLC with an alternative ending, where the gods find out the truth before being invited to hell and you actually fight the war they talked about. You could fight all of the gods, even chaos, and through the gods being unable to win (maybe not dying completely...), they acknowledge the whole situation and support it.
I think that would be super interesting and just flat out awesome.
So basically God of War, but the main protagonist is the son of Hades instead
If we're talking DLC, how about the Labyrinth of Minos? Theseus was supposed to be the main character instead of Zagreus initially.
Alternatively, you release the Titans from the underworld to finally defeat them, and end up causing the apocalypse.
@@teogonzalez7957
[Hades 2 Existing]
*Oh no... OH NO...!*
All the hours you put in this game, see thats what it takes to create a functioning god family in greek mythology, and this is one of the best case scenarios too XD
1:03:27 I like to think that when Hades said this, Persephone was internally just like, "well I was thinking about something a bit more complicated than that but now that you mention it..."
There's no way in hell Demeter was okay with this lol
you can tell by the post epilogue dialogue with demeter that she's overjoyed to have her daughter back. because she visits her regularly afterwards
The greek architecture was been source of inspiration for designing the caverns from games MYTHOS and LONGING
thank you mate for your effort in putting up this video. really appreciate it :)
the entire time they talk about the consequences of hades finding out here and there im just like: "what's he gonna do, i already kicked his ass"
Man I hope they do an expansion dlc for this. Such an amazing game.
:)
I would love if they update the game and have it where you have to fight your way up to Olympus for some reason
need that reason to be good since we just had a family meeting
God of War style
Good news! We're now fighting our way back DOWN into the House of Hades!
THANK YOU! I love this game but lack the skills to beat it as many times as I would need to get all the endings!
Glad you could watch something that helps you out instead of playing the game 11 times in a row, but it is good game though!
wow thank you very much there aren't any video about this!!
Zagreus: dies in suffering many times in front of her
Persiphone: Oh, well, that's unfortunate
Thank goodness I found this. Was almost losing my patience on finding each endings because I suck at games lol.
This was unbelievably satisfying to watch. 10/10
Thanks man, I'll keep this in mind to make other cool ones for ya
21:44 *gives a thumbs up through the blood*
Alot of kids now or days don't know this reference lol, good one.
@@kenuty i Know this reference.
40:52
Zag: What have I done.
Me: Created the Orphic Hymns, that’s what you’ve done.
So you have to go through the various stages of Hell numerous times to be strong enough to escape, and then go back and forth after you’ve escaped to have short convos to finally return to hell for good
yes, because you cannot live outside of hell too long, It's the curse of the hades family so he inherited what his father has too.
"All of Olympus"
(cries in Apollo and Hera)
*Sad Hephaestus noises*
I'm not crying, you're crying
Yes. Yes I am. But so are you
*WE ARE CRYING*
"You have it half-correct!"
This one line made me laugh so hard.
I always wanted to see the ending but i had no time nor nerves to do it, thanks for this video
np bro its a great game, just alot of climbing and dying lol
@@kenuty i acutally beat father twice but after that i just couldn't
This game made Greek/Roman mythology look like a reality show family drama xD
Greek mythology _was_ just a reality show family drama.
45:50 As a certain Overseer said “I’m sorry. You’re a hero, and you have to leave.”
It's a hell of a story!
Aha, hell
Good lord that In the blood song is hauntingly beautiful.