How To Wet Sand Furniture
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2019
- Do you want an ultra smooth, glass-like finish on your furniture? In this video I explain the benefits and techniques wet sanding a piece of painted furniture. I will walk you through the steps on how to wet sand your next piece of painted furniture.
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Materials List:
- Wet/Dry Sandpaper 800 grit
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The paint on this piece is:
Rustoleum Painter's Touch White Gloss
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- Soapy Water
- Clean Rags
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This is exactly the information I needed! Short and to the point. Thank you.
Glad we can help, thank you for the kind words and thanks for watching!
What Lubricant do you use on enamel paint?
great instructions! So glad I found your channel
Thanks for watching😊
Great demo and information, just what I needed, thanks
Hi Karen, thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you found the information helpful. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks for watching 😊
Spot on! Cheers.
Good video! To the point. I liked the fact that you mentioned the grit numbers. Thank for the info!
Hi Paula, thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you found the information helpful, thanks for watching 😊
@@CoastalUpcycling Would you answer this for me?? I have a mirror. It is solid wood and I want to paint it navy blue for my son's room. It has some kind of "veneer" on top...I can see the wood clearly in certain places. It looks like it was painted. Should I sand the entire mirror or scuff sand? Thanks. Paula
@@paulai9645 hi Paula, here are my thoughts, if you're gonna paint it, just go ahead and scuff sand, prime with a shellac based primer, (I like Zinsser BIN primer is a spray can), then paint! Thanks for the question, if you have any others, please let me know, I'd be happy to help😁
Thanks for sharing this! We've had some challenges with the glossy finishes in the past but will try this technique to see if we can fix up these doors we're doing :)
Awesome, thanks for the kind words. Good luck with your doors, and if you need any other help or advice please do not hesitate to ask. Thank you for watching 😊
@@CoastalUpcycling Thanks! Don't mind if we do! :)
Awesome video! Been trying to find information on this for a while. I’m doing a mid century piece and want a high gloss finish on the table top. Wish me luck!
Hi Emily, thank you for the kind words, I'm glad you found the video helpful!!! I love mid century pieces, and I think high gloss really makes them pop👍, good luck on your project and thank you for watching 😊
Great information! For those asking why there wasn't more info about the paint, this video isnt about the paint. 🙄
So many videos about how to get a good/great/factory look surface/finish. And nobody shows the actual surface from close and how it looks.
+1 for the helpful, on point and 'un-coated' info. All I needed.
Thanks you for the kind words, glad you enjoyed the video, thank you for watching 😊
Great video, one question though...is it okay if there is still a good bit of the old paint on the furniture as long as it's been properly wet sanded to a gloss finish? I'm wanting to try my hand at using a high gloss paint and am trying to figure out what I'm doing as much as possible before-hand. Thank you!
I AM SO GLAD I FOUND YOU THIS IS THE ANSWER I HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR I WAS READY TO PULL MY HAIR OUT ! a little bit of soap makes this so easy i was getting scratches before THANKS! how long would u suggest waiting to do this after painting, i am using mineral paint
its ok i just scrolled down & found the answer about how long to wait to sand, i will be watching lots more video's of yours thanks
Thank you! This info was just what I was looking for. Can’t wait to try it.
Hi Lisa, thanks you for the kind words. Please don't hesitate to ask me if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help, thanks for watching 😀
Dood, no one talks this stuff... Props for putting this video out! :-)
I asked the folks at SW what paint to buy for this type stuff, they had no clue---"wet sanding the finish on furniture? No that's mostly just for automobile finishes"... lol
Thanks for the kind words, please let me know if you have any questions or if I can help in any way, thank you for watching 😊
I've had some comical "uh, I don't know" replies to questions from Sherwin Williams employees in the past. They are about as helpful as asking a random Walmart employee. After I found a specialty paint store in my area that specializes in quality paints and knowledgeable employees that are skilled painters, I never went back to SW.
If you're talking about average s.w. stores you are absolutely correct you have to go to A product finishes store that specializes in wood coatings. At least the one I go to most the guys have the right answers you need. Take the same approach as auto body finishing you'll find it's basically the same concept great video! This is definitely a subject alot of youtubers avoid.
@@bca2070 What is the shop you go to? Big chain like S.W. or a mom-n-pop type place that carries multiple lines?:
@@michaelz6870 wherever is convenient there's a sw industrial coatings 15 miles from me also order mostly pre cat lacquer, dye, aerosols, sandpaper, etc. directly from mohawk thru the company I work for. Most the colorants for our dispenser we get online
hey this video was made on a friday. when the video started i thought he would talk but music came out. you say water correctly. not like a jersey guy. lol is halloween now! blue pump is funky lol. nice water bottle. resistance is the key to the touch. i do 2 finger sized squares. i dont do gloves, i do mouth gloves even when im wetting. nice vid all in all. my advice would be to increase you cross fade times to a greater value or dont use them at all like 320 grit garbage scammer sand paper! right?! 80-220 / 600, 1000. everything else a machine can make. love yuh
WTF are you going on about?
Great Job. I do a lot of Furniture Refinishing. But I have never tried wet sanding like this. But I am working on a project right now that I will be trying this out on. Thanks for the great tips!
Thank you for the kind words, I'm so glad you found the information helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions, I'd be happy to help where I can. Thanks for watching 😊
I tried the wet sanding on my project I mentioned Earlier. It worked AMAZING!! Thank you SO MUCH!
@@LavenderDaisies I'm so glad the wet sanding technique worked out for you. Keep up the good work👍
can you do this on chalk paint? & if so, should I do it after 3 coats or in between each coat?
Loved the video! Would have love to know about your initial paint before hand? Also what type of gloss finish you use? This is great for anyone trying to accomplish a plastic look for art installations etc.
Never mind! Read through the comments & your responses! Would love to know what next steps are though after the sanding.
Hi Natasha, thank you for the question....for this particular piece we used Minwax Polycrylic Glossy. I believe we did three coats, with a foam applicator sponge. Hope this helps, thank you for watching 😊
@@CoastalUpcycling Thank you so much for the response! After reading more of your comments & replies, I realized you mentioned this top coat yellowing if painting white. Is there a top coat you would suggest for a white paint that also keeps the high gloss? Thanks in advance!
Helpful video but was wondering how many coats of paint before sanding? I sanded and it went through the paint exposing the primer 😢
What colour blue did you use on the dresser shown in the thumbnail of the video. It’s really nice
When wet sanding a car, I put some detergent in the water and it stops it from sticking & the paper slides easily
Hi Red, you can’t wet sanding, small circles you have to do it side to side
can I wet sand with 800 grit sand paper after applying my polyacrylic over my paint? pr does it have to be before polyacrylic is applied?
Helpful video.... it occurs to me that sometimes I find some great furniture and other painted products at garage sales and thrift stores, but the paint is ugly and bumpy and runny, and wet sanding the flaws would do wonders to make the piece look better.
Oh, and as for tips to make your video better, a different camera angle to see what you were sanding away, and the results after
I agree! There are so many great pieces out there that just need some TLC. So what sort of furniture pieces would you try this method on?
Thank you for the feedback on the camera angles. Right now I'm just using my phone's camera, but I am absolutely upgrading to a better camera this year!
Actually, I was salvaging some lumber earlier last year from the house that was completely demolished. The house must have been over 100 years old. Anyway, I was rummaging through the stuff in the, what are used to be, basement and I found several old pieces to restore. One of them being a painted medicine cabinet that needed some serious cleaning up. But other things like old dressers that might have 15 coats of paint on them, painted DIY style, or wooden stools, in the same condition.
@@axlent123 Wow!!! What a treasure to come across! Please keep me posted with any refinishing you do to them, I'd love to see them👍
Do you need to polish the paint after wet sanding? I’d assume like on a cars paintwork, the wet sanding will ‘dull’ the finish?
how do you apply shine afterwards?
How long would say... Advance paint need to dry before it would be safe to wet sand? Thanks
This is great! I've currently painted a dresser with matte emulsion paint (not sure if that was a good idea or not), with a layer of wood primer underneath. It's either got tiny little air bubbles all over or somehow grit has stuck to the paint (maybe dust in the room?). I tried doing a little wet sanding and it seems quite patchy, like it's shinier in some places - should I paint another couple of coats of paint on it and try again? I thought about sealing it with wax but not sure.
Hi Caroline, yes you may want to add more layers of paint before wet sanding, try 3 coats minimum before wet sanding, more would be better. Im not quite familiar with emulsion paints, but if they are similar to chalk or mineral style paints, they have sediment mixed in the paint. This gives the paint's finish a rustic, farmhouse look. This could possibly be where the grit and bubbles are coming from. Hope this helps, thanks for watching 😊
@@CoastalUpcycling Awesome, thank you! I'll try it out :)
This worked for me. I was shaking it up right before using it and gettig thousands of tiny air bubbles in the finish. And you can't see them. it looks fine. But it's not. Have your paint or stain stirred and mixed at least one day prior to the day you will be applying it. when you're ready.pour it in a smaller container to use and give it acoupke of slow swirls just prior to using it.
If I’m in between coats should I sand now since I’m noticing lint all over the painted wood?? I’m spray painting cornhole boards made of flat wood on top and I haven’t gotten to the final clear coat just yet I just did the final coat of a design though and it’s full of lint so should I just spray the clear on it now then sand after the clear dries??
No, make sure you get all the lint off before continuing. The clear coat will trap in any and all imperfections, so you want that as clean as possible. Try sanding, then using a tack cloth to clean up as much as you can. Also, if at all possible when spraying, make sure your in a clean, dust free environment. Limit the amount of dirt in your finish. Hope this helps, thank you for watching 😊
is it possible to use sandpaper on enamel paint?
I am wondering if wet sanding creates much dust. I need to do some wet sanding on a piece of furniture that I would rather not haul back outside. Would it be practical to wet sand indoors without causing a lot of residue on surrounding objects?
Thanks for the info!
I use a drop cloth/plastic to catch the drips. Wet sanding doesn't throw dust. The dust is captured in the water. I like to rinse my sand paper in a container of water so I can see that the paper is being rinsed out. Just don't get vigorous. This video is great info.
Make sure to test out if the paint you are using works with wet sanding. I tried wet sanding a 2K polyurethane paint, and it just sort of melted like milk and the surface looked terrible afterwards. That was with super gentle strokes and 1500 grit paper. I had to repaint.
Wow! Thank you so much for the heads up. I will definitely keep that in mind. 👍 Thanks for watching 😊
@@CoastalUpcycling The people with the paint store didn't understand why that happened either. I reached out to the sales rep and was told that even though polyurethane paint is ready for stack and pack within 12 hours, it doesn't fully cure for about a week. It may be that doing it the next day it was still in an uncured state.
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I sure would have liked some more information. How many coats of paint are on the piece, and how long did you let the paint dry before wet sanding. Won't using water as a lubricant on water based paint dissolve the paint?
Hi Ernest thank you for the feedback...I will absolutely keep it in mind for the next video.
As for this piece, I applied 4 coats of paint. I started wet sanding after the 2nd coat. I like to have the paint completely dry and mostly cured before wet sanding. For this piece that was about 2 days later. Times will vary based on your local humidity. If you sand too soon you run the risk of clumping up your paint job and removing paint from the piece. I hope this helps, thanks for watching. 😀
2:01 It seemed like just before this you said "sudsy water," and then right when you're about to say what's in the container it skips ahead from water to wet rag. What did you add and in what ratio to make it "sudsy," and is that necessary or would you recommend just plain tap water?
2:25 you talk about a couple of drops of dish soap in that container.
A couple of drops of dish soap to the water is sufficient. The soapy water is a lubricant for the sandpaper. It helps keep the sandpaper from clogging and the cutting edge engaged to the piece. Hope this helps, thank you for watching 😊
I fear I'm showing my total lack of knowledge, but I am spray painting a book shelf with a spray lacquer. I should've researched before doing this-had no clue that lacquer is different than regular spray paint. Anyway, before I understood the process I got a couple of bubbles. Can I wet sand using water/dish soap or would I need to use a solvent of some sort? Thanks in advance for not making fun of me.
What do you do when you're done, another coat? How do you know you're done, how should you dry it... Etc... Just lil bits I'd like to know
Hi Jillian, great questions...once you feel like you have the finish you want then you can apply your sealing top coat. You are doing wet sanding after 3-4 coats of paint so there is little chance of sanding all the way through. You can dry with a lint free cloth or paper towels, but let the entire piece dry for at least 24 hours before additional coats or sealing. Hope this helps, thanks for watching😊
@@CoastalUpcycling Hi, what do you recommend for a sealing top coat for a table/desk surface? Thanks, and great concise video by the way!
@@ianw3811 I would go reccomend using a polyurethane for a table or desk top. Polycrylic by Minwax is good, but tends to yellow over light paints especially white. General Finishes is much better and doesn't yellow after curing. There are several sheet s available, but I would go for satin. It gives a good, protective luster to a finished top.
@Coastal Upcycling Thank you very much for your detailed reply! About to build a desk, so this helped so much. Thanks again!
@@CoastalUpcycling hi there. I was just wondering if a sealant is necessary for something like shelves and a cabinet top? Am I ok to stick with an eggshell paint without a sealant? If so would I wetsand the final coat of paint and leave it as is? Thanks
Just to make sure I’m understanding you correctly, you first apply 3-4 coats of paint (lightly sanding in between coats?), wet sand, then apply seal coat (poly/lacquer/enamel..etc.)
Do you recommend using any kind of rubbing compound or polishing compound?
Hi Morgan, thanks for the question...yes, you want a nice thick layer of paint on before wet sanding, marking sure to do a light sand between coats. It's up to you if you want to use a protective topcoat, like a polyurethane...I'd stay away from lacquer, they tend to turn amber-ish yellow over time. No I have not used a compound yet, but I'd like to experiment with some soon. Thanks for watching 😊
I would have liked seeing this done with a dark color🙂
Hi Martha, thanks for the comment, I'll take it into consideration for our upcoming videos. Thank you for watching 😊
Do i use thimner with oil finish?
If you are wet sanding a piece with an oil finish you can use paint thinner, or mineral spirits as a lubricant for wet sanding. Hope this helps. Thank you for watching😊
Maybe you can help me. I am sanding down a buffet table, (the top) and have strips of deep marks. This didn't happen until I did my final sanding, which was a 400 grid. When I tried to get them out with a 150 grid it made it worse! HELP!!!! It's an old piece (1940?) Looks like the top was made using 3 pieces of wood from front to back. I would greatly appreciate your opinion on a solution. Thanks so much! Gloria K
Hi Gloria, had you painted the top yet, or were you sanding off the top's original finish? I'm going to assume this is the initial sanding of the piece. You are correct, the 3 lines running front to back are joint lines. It's where the 3 individual pieces of wood were glued together to make one large board. The more you sand on that top the more filler material that was hiding the joints is removed. The fix? You can leave as is and refinish it with stain and polyurethane, or you can use wood filler to cover the joints, sand smooth then finish with stain and poly. I hope this helps you out...please let me know if you have any other questions. Thank you for watching 😊
@@CoastalUpcycling hello! I'm sorry, maybe I didn't explain properly. I am a newbie so please bare with me. I had sanded already with a 100 grid then 150. When I went to do the final sanding of 400 grid as I was sanding gauge like marks appeared. They were not there prior. 😕😞 I tried sending a photo but it doesn't allow.
@@gloriakfrato3475 Hi Gloria, please no apologies...I remember when I first started out painting and refinishing furniture, it's all a learning process 👍 Ok, so what may have happened is that you've uncovered some sanding marks that were made in the previous rounds of sanding. If that's the case, then you will have to reapply more paint or topcoat to make sure there is a thick enough layer to sand. Let me know if I'm on the right track, I'm here to help 👍😉
@@CoastalUpcycling Ok, I'll try and let you know. Thanks!
Can this be used on chalk paint?
Typically this technique is used for an ultra smooth finish. I tend to use it on pieces that I want a high gloss finish on to eliminate brush marks. Because chalk paint is made to give a more rustic look, I normally don't wet sand chalk paint. Great question.
I know this is a "late" question, but I'm hoping someone is still monitoring - I am painting my kitchen cabinets and I'm starting to like how they are looking - I'm on my 3rd coat and it's looking much better - the problem is that I keep getting small little hairs or dust particles in the paint - the door might look great but there is 2-3 spots on each door that something in air settled. Until the final coat it's ok because I use 220/320 between coats and this takes care of these nuisances - but what happens if these hairs settle on what I think is my final coat?? Then what? Can I wet sad that final coat and if so, will it take care of the hairs and other dust issues?? Thanks!
Hi Vikki, yes the wet sanding will remove the particles, but you have to make sure you have plenty of layers of paint on. I know the headaches of keeps a contamination-free work area, but that is your best defence. Make sure all the cabinets are clean and dusted...don't forget the tops of the upper cabinets if they are accessible. Any dust on any appliance left behind could potentially end up in you beautiful finish. Hope this helps, thanks for watching and good luck on your project 👍
@@CoastalUpcycling thank you! Can one "spot" wet-sand to remove the nuisance area on an otherwise "finished" door? I have the room I'm painting in completely plastic'd off and all vents taped - the doors are off the boxes but I paint on a table and then move about 10 ft to the drying area - best I can do. I would love to not have to wet-sand the entire door when there are only a few spots. Thanks for your help!
@@vikkigranger2572 so when it comes to "spot sanding" you may have to sand an entire section in order for the finish to be even. Not necessarily the entire door, but you'll want to sand the whole section that the dust particle is in. (Sounds confusing!?!?). For example, let's say your cabinet door has a raised panel, and the dust is on that panel. You'll have to wet sand that entire panel, but not the frame of the door. You want to make sure your eye doesn't catch a spot that's been wet sanded adjacent to an area that hasn't. I hope this makes sense 😬. Best of luck, let me know how it turns out 👍
@@CoastalUpcycling thank you!
Can this still be done if the piece is past its curing time?
Yes, in fact that's probably the best time is once the piece is cured completely. You'll want a nice hard surface for the best results. Thanks for watching 😊
They say there are no dumb questions, but that was a pretty dumb question.
You need to use a sanding block. You while only make the surface worse, without a block
Next time can you put the finish product?
Thanks for the comment, yes I will absolutely include a finished product picture on the next video. Thank you for watching 😊
Coastal Upcycling thanks 🙏 I will watch it then
Tell clearly what type of paint can be sanded
Water sanding with water-based paint will dissolve the paint.