Thats a lot of shit talking about Messier. Have facts about the agreeing with him or being shipped out? Seriously big accusations without anything but your word to back it up.
Signing Toasterhead aka Messier was THE worst signing in Canucks history, even worse than Erikson. The only good thing that came out of it was getting Bertuzzi from the Islanders in the Linden deal but that wasn't worth everything else. His buddy Keenan trashed the team. He was never invested in the city, lived in a hotel room to show that he had no intention of making it his home. He was never liked by the fans.
I remember Wayne Gretzky being booed nearly everywhere in the 1980s except in Edmonton. The rest of the league generally stopped booing when he was traded to L.A. and stopped winning Stanley Cups.
@@oilersridersbluejays It's called being an overated player in the worst, least defensive NHL ever, not to mention that he was always taking cheap shots at other players, then running away so Semenko could end the fights he started... And, if you so much as breathed on him, you'd get a penalty for it!
Canucks feel vs NYR in 94 cup final, keenan, messier &a schwack of ex Oilers, a couple years later messier is the captain of the Canucks & Keenan is the coach. A couple of tough punches to take for long suffering Canucks fans. At least we can be content knowing NYR wont win the cup again for a long time...if only VCR could climb the mountain, just once. Or maybe back to back cup wins, I'd take that
Messier was useless with the Canucks. The Linden trade worked out as we got Bertuzzi, and we ended up getting Linden years later. It really was the Kennen move that sucked.
Nedvěd, as far as I know, defected from Czechoslovakia, at that time still occupied by Soviet forces, but he himself is Czech, as he was born in Liberec to Czech parents. I think he also represented Canada at some point and has a silver medal from the Olympics.
he made some fans including my self HATE the Canucks till he left, I did the worst thing you could do in Van as a fan and that was be a Leafs fan ( to be fair it was more for CUJO ) and I believe before we got Mark Burnaby Joe was the other guy who was roumered to have been on the very short list to come here but we took Mess and what a Mess mark made here.
If he had any class, Messier would have turned down being the canucks captain. Taking it from a guy like Trevor Linden is a bad way to introduce yourself to a new team.
Messier is a 6 time Stanley Cup champion and considered to be one of the best NHL players ever so your comments mean f-all to the 98 % of fans that love this guy. Maybe some Vancouver fans didn’t like him after his three year less than stellar stint there but this guy was a tough very skilled HOF’er. Vancouver has never won a Stanley Cup so maybe a bit of sour grapes 🙄
The "hate" for Fedorov by Wings fans while he was a Wing is definitely overblown. There were certainly factions that grumbled about him sitting out, but it was probably more common for people to think he was an elite player who deserved to get paid. If fan opinion on Fedorov qualified as hate, then you could say Yzerman was "hated" in the early '90s for allegedly not having the killer instinct to put the Wings over the top (a fairly common criticism he received, as crazy as it sounds in hindsight). Even this video completely breezes over '99-'03...because everything was peachy between Wings fans and Fedorov. And yes, Wings fans were pissed when he did eventually leave for Anaheim, and it was an overreaction, but, as with many cases in this video, that's hate from an opposing fanbase. He wasn't a Wing anymore. And as many have said, hang out on Red Wings social media, and if Fedorov comes up, "91 belongs in the rafters" will be a sentiment that far outweighs any lingering saltiness over his departure.
Yeah, the Fedorov one probably shouldn't be on this list. Most people, including wings fans, were on his side during his holdout. He was probably the best player in the NHL at the time and the wings didn't want to pay him.
I dunno. I was at The Joe when he came back a while after he left and the boos were still pretty loud every time the guy stepped on the ice. It was actually a bit embarrassing after a while. I was at Tiger Stadium when Lance Parrish came back in an Angels uniform and he got a standing ovation from the crowd. He hit a HR that day against us and the fans stood up again. As a Detroit fan who goes back to the days of #6 in right and Gordie skating along side Alex Delvecchio I do know this much. If you are loved by the fan base you will always be loved. But once you get on their bad side....not so much.
I’m a lifelong oiler fan and I lost a lot of respect for Messier after going to Van. I thought it was disgraceful of him to demand the numbered of a retired player who I believe was deceased (I could be wrong). The only good game he had as a Canuck was when he went up against the rangers. I also can’t believe that the organization treated Linden the way they did to make room for Messier. Taking the C away from Linden and giving it to Messier was awful. What a betrayal! The canucks came within one game of beating the Rangers for the cup. One game. You don’t rip your team apart an embarrass a great captain like Linden to make room for an old Messier. Sorry for the rant. I loved Mess as a kid. I thought he was so cool and so professional. His actions in Vancouver were brutal.
@@chihuahuaman7025 Well said Simon !! He should of done what Gretzky did when he went to the rangers. Wayne didn't except the C nor either of the A's . He helped the team the best he could. Messier still would of been one of the leaders with out the C or A's . That was his worst move of his Currier.
For the Caps I would have to say Jagr. They signed him for a record amount (5 yr/55M I think) but he clearly skated at 80% his entire Caps career. The team was no better with him than without, evwn though they got Lang and completely tried to overhaul their scrappy, D first style. When they dumped him he immediately skated hard again for the Rangers. After a couple years of Jagr underperforming the Caps tanked in 2003-04 which put them in position to make a really good #1 pick in 2004...
I really lost respect for Jagr about that at first. Then they tanked and got some guy named Alex Ovechkin in that 2004 draft at #1 overall......can't hate too much looking back!!!!
About Yashin...I grew up around Ottawa and was a Sens fan since *before* the Senators' inception. I remember a big part of what turned the city against Yashin was when he pulled out of his promise $1m donation to the National Arts Centre. Although his hockey-related antics started the hate fest, going back on his word about the donation is what most people were talking about at street level.
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid honestly, font give a flying crap about what was promised to be donated. Things change. How much have you donated to the cause you seem to care so much about 🤔
@@jeremyplumley9165 Bud, you should figure out how to be less aggressive. All this anger over a topic as benign as this is neither normal nor healthy. P.S.: Publicly declaring one's charitable contributions is almost always a self-serving act. And even if it wasn't, the level of generosity would have to be measured as a proportion of available resources, not a standalone value.
I wasn't aware of the backstory with Messier. I always thought he was a pretty straight shooter. Probably the best all-round player of his time (yeah, I know, Gretsky could light the lamp but Messier was the total package and he didn't need to carry McSorley around to protect him). I do get where bringing in Mike Keenan would f things up pretty good. One of my favorite hockey interviews was the one where Brett Hull was asked who he would be willing to fight. Hull, never known as a fighter, said Mike Kennan. The guy interviewing was taken back a bit. He asked why since Brett never played for him and he said I don't know, he's just someone who needs his ass kicked. Loved that comeback. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm fairness, holy smokes the mistakes he had done in key moments in the season had me completely baffled. Like the drop pass to nobody behind his net, three Bruins players closer to the puck than any other Leaf, ended up being the game winning goal in a game 7.
To be fair, when Vernon was bad he was TERRIBLE. See game 7 of the 91 Smythe semis against the Oilers. Flames go up 3-0, only to have Vernie let in a goal from the blue line and then it was all downhill from there. I remember as a kid hearing those playground rumours: “Oh, Vernon didn’t play last game because he was hungover.” Lol
@@FryngeMinority Yes someone with over 300 wins, won two Stanley Cups as the team's starting goalie won a Conn Smythe Trophy and was a 5-time all-star is a terrible hockey player.
What a selfish person Messier was.... he single handily set the franchise back Millions of dollars. Got paid for what he had done and certainly not what he was going to do. Got rid of one of most popular and well respected coaches in Quinn fired and sent an all time favorite player away. Canucks did alright on the trade though. Mark Me$$ier should be ashamed at what he pulled off in Vancouver
I love how you mentioned that in Fedorov's case a lot of the media surrounding him would leave out key information in order to make him look bad, but then proceeded to do the exact same thing. Regardless, you're completely off with how fans feel about him now. Most got over his leaving Detroit years ago and if you follow any Red Wings social media, you'll see people praising and reminiscing the guy all the time. Just look at the reception he got at the alumni game a few years ago.
Ya I would say miss him him and appreciate what he did here but dude wanted out in 03 to money chase lol but that was then this is now…he did realize he fucked up haha
@@headbangerdnb Just because it backfired, doesn't mean he didn't money chase. Happens to a "very good but not Star" player every year in every sport. Quite a few hold out for a bigger deal then end up signing a one year Show Me deal somewhere when teams turn elsewhere
The thing that always upset me about Federov as a Red Wings fan when I was young, is I had heard that to try and free up money for Sergei, they asked Yzerman to take a pay cut. Yzerman told them to get bent.
Honorable mentions, Patrice Brisebois and Scott Gomez with the Montreal Canadiens. You could probably do a whole list on players who were hated by their own fans, just with the Canadiens team.
Brisebois was hated because he made mad money at the time and his production dipped. Quebec culture always has hate towards people who make a lot of money and doesn't deliver God like performances.
@@tomwilliams1849 I'm really not happy to report this, but in the late 90's and early 00's, Brisebois became the de facto spacegoat for the Habs' lack of success. Whenever they would play in Montreal, Habs fans themselves would boo Brisebois. He never did anything as bad as Messier or Yashin, but he was definitely kicked out of town by the fans themselves
Brisebois was talented, but, he was just too small to play defense, they should have converted him into a defensive forward a la Bob Gainey, he would have thrived in that role.
@@tomwilliams1849 I remember that Habs media would call him BreezeBy and fans would call him Briseboo. If there was a poster child for mistreatment in Montreal, It'd be Patrice Brisebois.
You should listen to the Odjick interview about Messier. The guy wanted all the ice time and did not want to practice. Messier was the worse thing to happen to the Canucks ever!
Messier complained to New York Ranger management in 1993 that he wasn't getting enough ice time, telling senior executives, 'We can't win with this guy (Roger Neilson).' Neilson liked to match his lines, something Messier didn't like, and Roger ended up getting fired. Keenan came in as coach, and the Rangers won the Cup in 1994. There it worked. Glenn Healey told this story a few years ago. Messier going to the Canucks was obviously a bad fit, as was Mike Keenan. Pat Quinn said this about Mike Keenan: ' Mike Keenan couldn't draw up a play on the chalkboard if his life depended on it.' Keenan has won championships in junior, AHL, and NHL, however.
Nedved is a czech, when he came to edm i wasn't expecting much, but he went down and blocked a shot on his first shift, surprised the s#&$ out of me . Also had 15 pts in 16 games and was +1, so the memories here aren't too bad
Yashin throwing a hissy fit was the best thing that ever happened to Ottawa, it brought both Spezza and Chara to the Senators. while Yashin's career ended in misery.
@@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665 lol. Um Spezza had over a decade of all-star level seasons with the Sens and helped get them to the Cup finals even AFTER Chara left. That's a BIG time win of a trade, I'd say.
I remember going to the first game Fedorov played in detroit after the trade. The wings smoked Anaheim but he managed to score a goal. The fans booed him every time he touched the puck. I could understand that. I couldn’t Understand the fans that continued years later when we was on Columbus after failing in Anaheim. Now that his career is over I’m sure most of the people only remember the good.
@@rygy20 The Larscheiders are a group of fans that fill entire section 326/327. They only make it out to 7/8 games. When they are at games you will know, they stand the entire game. "Messier sucks" at 11:11 is one of their chants
He is only hated in vancouver so it is analogous to being hated in care bear land. Worst thing vancouver will do is put the wrong color sprinkles on Mess's ice cream cone.
I think most fans have forgiven Fedorov. You still get the occasional one who pipes up, but people look at them cockeyed these days. When he came out for the alumni game against Toronto the fans cheered.
@@KidsFund1 Sergei had a brother named Fedor Fedorov believe it or not. And he was very much known for being lazy. I never said anything bad about Sergei
@B.C. Burg Jagr probably gone number 1 in that draft if he had not told every team that he wasn't going to come over. The reason Pittsburgh took him is because Jagr wanted to play with Lemieux
@@idontgivetkachuk I wasnt trying to say you were wrong. I agree though, in one of his return games he got hit by Kronwall and the crowd cheered like we won the cup again.
Federov was hated in Detroit, when he wouldn’t sign my parents who wore his jersey and Yzerman’s as it was the year they met, stopped wearing Federov’s jersey and still won’t wear it, and his bad faith dealings are a reason Federov’s jersey shouldn’t be retired in Detroit
Yashin got screwed in Ottawa. The reason they drafted Daigle was to get the French from Gatineau and area to come to the Palladium. Neither Fergie nor Bowness thought it was a good idea but were over ruled and Daigle got the ROYAL treatment. Then, they pushed Daigle as the Star when it was Yashin who led the team. It was POLITICAL BULLSHIT to please Quebecers.
i remember rickie mccleish of the flyers, probably the smoothest skater on the team, his skating seemed effortless, and his 40 goals a year, were appreciated, but the philadelphia media always called him lazy, because, apparently he didnt sweat enough while playing. this is how ludicris, the media in any town can be
As soon as I heard Messier was getting 11, a number that was retired in tribute to the late Wayne Maki, I knew he was only in it for himself. Messier and Keenan were the biggest mistakes in Canucks history.
Never new that messier and federov were hated by the fans. Personally I Never liked messier. He always came across as an arrogant and dirty pos that got away with murder in the ice.
I'm going to start buying jerseys for pure troll mode and a #11 Messier Canucks jersey is a perfect place to start. After that, I might have a #20 Kreider Habs jersey custom made...then maybe a #4 Stevens MDA jersey...then maybe a #88 Lindros Nordiques jersey...then maybe a #16 Hull Sabres jersey...then maybe a half-and-half #81 Pit/Det Hossa jersey...then maybe a...ok, I digress...
As a Flyers fan, I would say the most hated player in the NHL is/was anyone who's played for the Flyers. As a non-Flyers fan, I would give the same answer.
Shocked John Tavares doesn't make the list... only time islanders games were sold out was to boo and hate on him... I mean the Fans rather put down and shame the "traitor".
I can see why he was left off. The only thing he did to make Isles fans hate him was leave, whereas the rest of the list seems to be guys whose actions while with their team is what made them reviled
@@rossrobertson674 he repeatedly told the organization that he wanted to resign there. he told them not to trade him. the fans and organization felt that he had lied to them , and strung them along.
Ross Robertson he constantly told the team and media all season his intent was to sign a new contract with the islanders and kept telling management not to trade him. Reasonable for the fans to despise the guy. You don’t lie to an entire organization and don’t expect backlash.
Pens fan so a little bias. But I remember many pittsburgh fans hating jagr even before he got traded. Near the end many thought he was exaggerating his injuries. He was continually boo'd for many years after he left
He always milked and exaggerated his injuries. Especially the groin injuries he would pull out of a hat whenever he needed it. My biggest gripe with the guy was all the smack he talked. I want to be traded. If I were Pittsburgh I would trade me. I feel like I am dying alive. And one of the most infamous quotes after he was traded something he wanted and begged for he said. I am going to show Pittsburgh that they make big mistake. The only thing jagr ever cared about was $$$$ and getting as much of it as possible. That's why he's played for so long,the size of his gambling debts and love of gambling are legendary. He recently said the reason he is still playing is because if he doesn't his partners will pull out of the team he owns and played for. He was a fantastic player while in Pittsburgh loved by the fans but he threw that all away chasing dollars.
Messier even had the nerve to sue The Canucks organization for $6 million after his mediocre play with the team. The Canucks had some of their worst years ever with his lackluster play, missing the play-offs 3 consecutive years. He said he increased The Canucks' market value. What a f**king joke. Messier should have been sued for underperforming. A stupid idea for Canucks management to bring him and Mike Keenan in and dismantle the team. Messier deserves to be hated by Canucks fans. Canuck management's desperation doesn't sit too well either.
Liked and subscribes because a)you didnt beg me to and b)the video started so quickly I thought I had accidently skipped through a boring intro that plagues all yt videos. Cheers bud
Np man. I figured going right into the stories would be a better start. Then I weave it into the topic to move on! Hope u enjoyed and thanks for sticking around!!
What is the story about Larry Murphy in Toronto? I remember the fans booing him everytime he touched the puck. I found it Absolutely disgusting. If that was me and we were playing for the Stanley Cup final I would score on my own net to give the fans what they deserve
@@justworkingfortheweekend8504 it was because he always missed the net. Oilers were very bad team then and Arnott was a scapegoat just like how Justin Schultz was abused as an oiler. Too high of expectations and scapegoating by the media. Jeff Petry...
The one time I wasn’t too impressed with the Moose was when he signed with the Canucks.To me it was just an all out cash grab and ego boosting move.I remember when he signed with them and thinking wtf is he doing?
I'm glad the flyers made that pick. My Devils came back, won the cup and Stevens knocked his head off. Cleanly and we won a second cup. Living a south jersey aka flyers country. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT
cant really put him in the list . The only reason he didn't played for the nords , Aubut the owner of the Nords was the worst piece of shit in the world , not just because he was a bad person but because he said very bad and very sexual explicit stuff to the mom and the fact that everybody knew Aubut was going to sell the team and Lindros was there just to increase the price. I mean the dude publicly said he doesn't want to go to the nords way before the draft. and he was loved by all the other teams he went to. Sucks for the nords but I don't think he belongs to this list
A LOT of people don’t know how Detroit actually treated Fedorov. Starting from the fact they tried to use his inability to read in English while signing his contract very first time he got to America (the number was waaay lower then what they originally agreed on). He said it himself, Detroit had great fan base but he always felt like he wasn’t needed on the team , or that he wasn’t trusted because what everyone else got in time and with no problems , he had to constantly fight for
In Montreal people hate Patrice Brisebois just because I make lots of money, every times I touch the puck people start to boo him . Not the glorious times in Habs history
Bryan McCabe in that Linden trade to 8:22 Great video, you could probably do a a part 2, sometime, Jagr in Pittsburgh springs to mind, that got ugly at the end & a lot of the fan base are still sour about it today
"Self-entitlement" How many times is Mark Messier's name on the Stanley Cup? He was a Champion everywhere he went but Vancouver, I think that says more about Vancouver than it does about Mark Messier...lol
Good ole' Alexi Yashin. Both the most Overrated and Underrated player of all time. Great Player, Horrible Contract, Injury Issues, and character concerns.
I remember that. That was pathetic.... a shame for real habs fans, a shame for French Canadian. The guy was choosed as THE reason why the habs was so bad this year. This put on him so much pressure that the habs doc sent him in vacation in the middle of the race for the playoff. The CH organization decide to wash their hands of this by saying they didnt know why and where Brisebois whas wich was totally false. After that, it was way more terrible. As soon as he touch the puck, he was bhooed (booed ? boohed ?). I remember clearly that it was at that point that i start skipping checking games because it was too pathetic from the crowd and i cant stand that.
Or the biggie, Jaques Lemaire vs. the Habs fans over guy the flower. They treated Jaques so bad and tormented him so much he got a job coaching in Jersey, drafted montreals next "anointed one" hometown hero goalie and used the trap montreal refused to deploy to win Lord Stanely's cup.
3:44 - Sergei Federov hated? I do not agree with that in the end of the day. Federov was back in the day one of the most tallented players in hockey and even Wayne Gretzky back in the day said after Mario Lemieux, his opinion was that Federov was the best forward in the league. Federov was a great 2-way center and could be just as good in defense as offense. The only time I remember he was dissliked was in 2003-2005 when he left the Red Wings for Anaheim Mighty Ducks. That was understandble for the time being as he was a fan favourite beside Yzerman & Lidstrom. But years after, he regained that love & respect from Red Wings fans and I have not heard in many years anything negative about him from them. Well, I'm a Ducks fan so I was happy he came but dissapointed he was not as good he was in Detroit. I imagined if Ducks had had him with Karya and Selanne, the Ducks would indeed have been the MIGHTY ones in the league. But that never happend sadly. Or imagine that line with Ducks defense line of Pronger and Nidermayier = CRUSHING the opponents!!!!
Gotta disagree with McCabe, we gave him a ton of shit for his flaws but he wasnt "hated" persay. I mean i still like him better than Dion Phaneuf and i booed McCabe at alot of games.
I can understand u dear .. Im a Caps fan since early nineties but my dads favorite always been Canucks n i remebering that Messier era n my dads broken heart when his favorite players left the building one by one 🤭
Being from the Philly area and a huge Flyers fan, I think Bryzgalov should have been here. He only played well for a little while here, the majority of the time he played like an amateur, and the contract he was bought out of was insanely high. I'm pretty sure he is STILL being paid by the Flyers. Also a Flyer that I hated was Forsberg. Don't get me wrong, when he was in the lineup he was great. He centered a line with Gange and Knuble, and at the time they were one of, if not the, best lines in the league. His "foot problems" started after he signed a big contract here the year after the lockout when the salary cap was introduced in the NHL. Because of this we had no money left for LeClair or Roenick. If his foot was a problem ok but he was out for a while until the league shut down for a few weeks for various players to compete for their countries in the Olympics. Forsberg came out of injury, played the ENTIRE tournament for Sweden, comes back for Philly and doesn't even finish the first game back for the Flyers and goes back to being "injured" for a while. When I hear the name Peter Forsberg, I always remember that and hate him for what he did, or really didn't do, for my Flyers.
It's really not Mark Messiers fault... Management / Ownership are the ones that allowed it to happen.... A player getting everything that he wants is exactly what they are trying to do. it's a job. They are going to ask for a LOT and management needs to negotiate down. Maybe they were chasing sweet sweet Lays Chip sponsorship? lol
as a Canuck fan, I will not lie. I do hate Mark Messier. I did meet him in person, got his autograph at a Vancouver card show. Before this 2021-22 season started, I burned a Messier Canucks jersey...
Fedorov was my 2nd favorite player behind Yzerman growing up in the 90's. The fans suck. To this day, I can't stand a lot of the fans of my hometown Pens.
Yashin should have sucked it up and played. Considering he wanted to be paid in a contract year, he should have just played the last year and then he could leave in free agency. I guess he did get what he wanted after all. Thanks Milbury
Just wanted to concur with some of the other folks from the area that Federov was not "hated" here. His behavior was definitely question at times, as well as his overall commitment to the team. As I recall, he disappeared in the play offs his first few appearances, and after establishing himself as a great two way center- the poor immigrant kid from Russian now considered it more about him than the team. At least, that's how a lot of us felt and there are many examples to back it up. As good as he was, his attitude in his later years left a bad taste in some fans mouths. When you go to Wings games, of all people you see wearing jerseys with throw-back names on him, I can tell you his is among the more rarely seen- particularly when you consider his contributions. But saying he is hated here is bit strong.
I was never a Canucks fan, but started to support them when Messier joined the team. That would be a re-building season as the Canucks would move into their new digs at GM Place, they would get a new logo and new uniform. Former fan favourites like Linden either left or would be traded away shortly after. I saw it as a fresh start, and thought I’d give them a shot. It didn’t last too long.
Most of us have forgiven Fedorov, and I would say the majority at the time he left were not angry with *him* but with losing him. Ofc, there will always be people who demand sacrificing everything to The Team, and people who just don't like the dude for being an arrogant superstar (he was! it's part of why some of us liked him 😅)
Could make an entire video just on Sabres players from the past decade. Rasmus Ristolainen takes the cake though for somehow consistently getting played way more than he should and being very bad in those minutes
In regards to Messier, it is critical to point out that his declining numbers once arriving in Vancouver is a secondary if not tertiary issue. The way he divided and ultimately dismantled a once contending team, causing the fan favorites to be traded is the reason he is so hated in Vancouver. The ONE and ONLY thing Messier did right in Vancouver, in my opinion, was insisting on the number 11. This idea of retiring number 11 in Vancouver is nothing more than superstitious nonsense! I wish more players would take the number 11 in Vancouver.
Plus nowadays Messier has the gall to re-write his tenure with the Canucks. He claims he was brought in to help mention a young squad... even though at the time the Canucks had: Pavel Bure, Alexander Mogilny, Trevor Linden, Kirk McLean (just a few years removed from his Hart and Vezina runner-up seasons), a young Markus Naslund, a rookie Mattias Ohlund, NHL veteran in Martin Gelinas, Brad May, Hedican, Aucoin, the "Wild Thing" Scotty Walker.... this was a contending team that Messier was supposed to help bring the Stanley Cup. Instead, he turned the arena into the "Pacific Mausoleum".
Hope y’all enjoyed!!
Also to point it out myself: Yeah... The 04-05 lockout. Not the 05-06.. Still Dk why I keep messin that up 💀..
it is called focus. You even screwed up Brian McCabes' name for crying out loud.
Also Nedvěd did not deflect from Russia, he's a Czech player, former Czechoslovakian. Among other things
@idontgivetkachuk Nedved defected from CZ not RUS
@idontgivetkachuk Disregard my comment. Did not see it was already mentioned
Thats a lot of shit talking about Messier. Have facts about the agreeing with him or being shipped out? Seriously big accusations without anything but your word to back it up.
Can confirm any Canuck fan old enough to remember Messier hates him
Nothing screams 'leader' like a list of demands for personal gain.....
He should've never went in the 1st place
I hate him to because he played for the oilers
You can tell I am a flames fan
@@ZACKMAN2007 between the flames and Oilers I think we lost half our roster to Alberta
Signing Toasterhead aka Messier was THE worst signing in Canucks history, even worse than Erikson. The only good thing that came out of it was getting Bertuzzi from the Islanders in the Linden deal but that wasn't worth everything else. His buddy Keenan trashed the team. He was never invested in the city, lived in a hotel room to show that he had no intention of making it his home. He was never liked by the fans.
I remember Wayne Gretzky being booed nearly everywhere in the 1980s except in Edmonton. The rest of the league generally stopped booing when he was traded to L.A. and stopped winning Stanley Cups.
That’s called jealousy.
@@oilersridersbluejays It's called being an overated player in the worst, least defensive NHL ever, not to mention that he was always taking cheap shots at other players, then running away so Semenko could end the fights he started... And, if you so much as breathed on him, you'd get a penalty for it!
@@shoknifeman2mikado135 least defensive era... Uh bud. Look at any team the past few years
@@shoknifeman2mikado135 Bro he's one of the nicest players ever, you're just jealous he never played for your team
Every goalie after having a bad game:
Pathetic.
Andersen as a Leaf summed up.
Almost forgot that Vancouver was one of the stops on the Iron Mike train wreck and dumpster tour of the NHL. Thanks for the memories!!!!
Canucks feel vs NYR in 94 cup final, keenan, messier &a schwack of ex Oilers, a couple years later messier is the captain of the Canucks & Keenan is the coach. A couple of tough punches to take for long suffering Canucks fans.
At least we can be content knowing NYR wont win the cup again for a long time...if only VCR could climb the mountain, just once. Or maybe back to back cup wins, I'd take that
"Train wreck".....haha, he won the Cup in New York.....
Messier was useless with the Canucks. The Linden trade worked out as we got Bertuzzi, and we ended up getting Linden years later. It really was the Kennen move that sucked.
Uhhh, whos "we". You aint part of the team or management bud
Nedvěd, as far as I know, defected from Czechoslovakia, at that time still occupied by Soviet forces, but he himself is Czech, as he was born in Liberec to Czech parents. I think he also represented Canada at some point and has a silver medal from the Olympics.
He played for Canada in the 1994 olympics.
Wow that's cool!
He became a Canadian citizen - it's in the video ......
I had no idea just how bad the messier thing was.. jesus
A couple yes after Messier, Keenan& NYR won the cup vs.Canucks, he was the Canucks captain, Keenan is the coach, the timing was just awful
Me neither and I was a cunucks fan, and I was a teenager at the time
Messier will always be the greatest with the New York Rangers fans
he made some fans including my self HATE the Canucks till he left, I did the worst thing you could do in Van as a fan and that was be a Leafs fan ( to be fair it was more for CUJO ) and I believe before we got Mark Burnaby Joe was the other guy who was roumered to have been on the very short list to come here but we took Mess and what a Mess mark made here.
It was bad
Nedved was not Russian?
Cz!
If he had any class, Messier would have turned down being the canucks captain. Taking it from a guy like Trevor Linden is a bad way to introduce yourself to a new team.
Messier is a 6 time Stanley Cup champion and considered to be one of the best NHL players ever so your comments mean f-all to the 98 % of fans that love this guy. Maybe some Vancouver fans didn’t like him after his three year less than stellar stint there but this guy was a tough very skilled HOF’er. Vancouver has never won a Stanley Cup so maybe a bit of sour grapes 🙄
Absolutely clueless original comment
The "hate" for Fedorov by Wings fans while he was a Wing is definitely overblown. There were certainly factions that grumbled about him sitting out, but it was probably more common for people to think he was an elite player who deserved to get paid. If fan opinion on Fedorov qualified as hate, then you could say Yzerman was "hated" in the early '90s for allegedly not having the killer instinct to put the Wings over the top (a fairly common criticism he received, as crazy as it sounds in hindsight). Even this video completely breezes over '99-'03...because everything was peachy between Wings fans and Fedorov. And yes, Wings fans were pissed when he did eventually leave for Anaheim, and it was an overreaction, but, as with many cases in this video, that's hate from an opposing fanbase. He wasn't a Wing anymore.
And as many have said, hang out on Red Wings social media, and if Fedorov comes up, "91 belongs in the rafters" will be a sentiment that far outweighs any lingering saltiness over his departure.
Yeah, I'm way happier to have had Fedorov on my team than Avery and the Bertuzzis, if I had to pick.
Yeah, the Fedorov one probably shouldn't be on this list. Most people, including wings fans, were on his side during his holdout. He was probably the best player in the NHL at the time and the wings didn't want to pay him.
I dunno. I was at The Joe when he came back a while after he left and the boos were still pretty loud every time the guy stepped on the ice. It was actually a bit embarrassing after a while. I was at Tiger Stadium when Lance Parrish came back in an Angels uniform and he got a standing ovation from the crowd. He hit a HR that day against us and the fans stood up again. As a Detroit fan who goes back to the days of #6 in right and Gordie skating along side Alex Delvecchio I do know this much. If you are loved by the fan base you will always be loved. But once you get on their bad side....not so much.
Fedorov wasn’t quite the same after the limo accident. He and konstantinov defected together and played together a long time.
The Canucks signed an old Messier and Vancouver fans thought they were getting Messier from the 80’s.
Exactly !!! Thank you we'll said.
I’m a lifelong oiler fan and I lost a lot of respect for Messier after going to Van. I thought it was disgraceful of him to demand the numbered of a retired player who I believe was deceased (I could be wrong). The only good game he had as a Canuck was when he went up against the rangers. I also can’t believe that the organization treated Linden the way they did to make room for Messier. Taking the C away from Linden and giving it to Messier was awful. What a betrayal! The canucks came within one game of beating the Rangers for the cup. One game. You don’t rip your team apart an embarrass a great captain like Linden to make room for an old Messier. Sorry for the rant. I loved Mess as a kid. I thought he was so cool and so professional. His actions in Vancouver were brutal.
Vancouver fans knew they were getting the old greedy messier. That is why we hated him .
@@paulraymond9886 Exactly. True Vancouver fans never wanted to hear his name let alone have him play for them.
@@chihuahuaman7025 Well said Simon !! He should of done what Gretzky did when he went to the rangers. Wayne didn't except the C nor either of the A's . He helped the team the best he could. Messier still would of been one of the leaders with out the C or A's . That was his worst move of his Currier.
For the Caps I would have to say Jagr. They signed him for a record amount (5 yr/55M I think) but he clearly skated at 80% his entire Caps career. The team was no better with him than without, evwn though they got Lang and completely tried to overhaul their scrappy, D first style. When they dumped him he immediately skated hard again for the Rangers. After a couple years of Jagr underperforming the Caps tanked in 2003-04 which put them in position to make a really good #1 pick in 2004...
I really lost respect for Jagr about that at first. Then they tanked and got some guy named Alex Ovechkin in that 2004 draft at #1 overall......can't hate too much looking back!!!!
About Yashin...I grew up around Ottawa and was a Sens fan since *before* the Senators' inception.
I remember a big part of what turned the city against Yashin was when he pulled out of his promise $1m donation to the National Arts Centre.
Although his hockey-related antics started the hate fest, going back on his word about the donation is what most people were talking about at street level.
Shows how petty, absurd and childish the fan base is, to worry about how another man spends his money? Laughable.
@@jeremyplumley9165 You might want to learn at least the very basics of the situation before blindly spewing such a misguided interpretation. 👍
@@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid honestly, font give a flying crap about what was promised to be donated. Things change. How much have you donated to the cause you seem to care so much about 🤔
@@jeremyplumley9165 Bud, you should figure out how to be less aggressive. All this anger over a topic as benign as this is neither normal nor healthy.
P.S.: Publicly declaring one's charitable contributions is almost always a self-serving act. And even if it wasn't, the level of generosity would have to be measured as a proportion of available resources, not a standalone value.
@@jeremyplumley9165 well a promise is a promise. It's common courtesy to pull through and it's disrespectful not to.
Messier is still hated in Vancouver and by Canucks fans everywhere.
Brad Marchand on any other NHL team
Id love to have Marchand on the oilers.
Great player, he’s like Perry except he didnt score 50
That's bs, every team would love to have Marchand in their roster.
@@henurggb8416 absolutely not he can stay in Boston thank you
@@Adri_Unsung If you wouldn’t want an Elite two way Top 5, 100 Point Caliber winger on you’re team because he’s a pest, you’re an idiot.
I wasn't aware of the backstory with Messier. I always thought he was a pretty straight shooter. Probably the best all-round player of his time (yeah, I know, Gretsky could light the lamp but Messier was the total package and he didn't need to carry McSorley around to protect him). I do get where bringing in Mike Keenan would f things up pretty good. One of my favorite hockey interviews was the one where Brett Hull was asked who he would be willing to fight. Hull, never known as a fighter, said Mike Kennan. The guy interviewing was taken back a bit. He asked why since Brett never played for him and he said I don't know, he's just someone who needs his ass kicked. Loved that comeback. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
That’s definitely a Brett Hull type comment.He had a razor sharp wit and didn’t suffer fools easily.
I like this bigly
Jake Gardiner was literally The punching bag of the Toronto Fanbase.
I'm fairness, holy smokes the mistakes he had done in key moments in the season had me completely baffled.
Like the drop pass to nobody behind his net, three Bruins players closer to the puck than any other Leaf, ended up being the game winning goal in a game 7.
to be faiiiir
playing on a line with Dion Phaneuf is tough
Not sure if he was hated but Mike Vernon took so much stick from the Flames fanbase that his parents stopped coming to games to avoid the abuse.
To be fair, when Vernon was bad he was TERRIBLE. See game 7 of the 91 Smythe semis against the Oilers. Flames go up 3-0, only to have Vernie let in a goal from the blue line and then it was all downhill from there.
I remember as a kid hearing those playground rumours: “Oh, Vernon didn’t play last game because he was hungover.” Lol
@@FryngeMinority Yes someone with over 300 wins, won two Stanley Cups as the team's starting goalie won a Conn Smythe Trophy and was a 5-time all-star is a terrible hockey player.
As a Red Wing fan - thanks .. we loved him !
As a Wings fan, Fedorov is still my favorite player 😂. he was sooo good and clutch.
One of the best no doubt !!
Caps picked up Feds from the Blue Jackets at the end of 07-08 and played through most of 08-09...loved him in a Capitals sweater!
What a selfish person Messier was.... he single handily set the franchise back Millions of dollars. Got paid for what he had done and certainly not what he was going to do. Got rid of one of most popular and well respected coaches in Quinn fired and sent an all time favorite player away. Canucks did alright on the trade though. Mark Me$$ier should be ashamed at what he pulled off in Vancouver
I love how you mentioned that in Fedorov's case a lot of the media surrounding him would leave out key information in order to make him look bad, but then proceeded to do the exact same thing. Regardless, you're completely off with how fans feel about him now. Most got over his leaving Detroit years ago and if you follow any Red Wings social media, you'll see people praising and reminiscing the guy all the time. Just look at the reception he got at the alumni game a few years ago.
Ya I would say miss him him and appreciate what he did here but dude wanted out in 03 to money chase lol but that was then this is now…he did realize he fucked up haha
@@maxray7489 Hey "money chased" by signing for less than he would have with Detroit?
@@headbangerdnb Just because it backfired, doesn't mean he didn't money chase. Happens to a "very good but not Star" player every year in every sport. Quite a few hold out for a bigger deal then end up signing a one year Show Me deal somewhere when teams turn elsewhere
The thing that always upset me about Federov as a Red Wings fan when I was young, is I had heard that to try and free up money for Sergei, they asked Yzerman to take a pay cut. Yzerman told them to get bent.
You left out how the Redwings gave Fedorov $25 million for half season.
And I thought $11.5 million for Karlsson was much
He mentioned it
Honorable mentions, Patrice Brisebois and Scott Gomez with the Montreal Canadiens. You could probably do a whole list on players who were hated by their own fans, just with the Canadiens team.
Brisebois hated? You're off your rocker dude
Brisebois was hated because he made mad money at the time and his production dipped. Quebec culture always has hate towards people who make a lot of money and doesn't deliver God like performances.
@@tomwilliams1849 I'm really not happy to report this, but in the late 90's and early 00's, Brisebois became the de facto spacegoat for the Habs' lack of success. Whenever they would play in Montreal, Habs fans themselves would boo Brisebois. He never did anything as bad as Messier or Yashin, but he was definitely kicked out of town by the fans themselves
Brisebois was talented, but, he was just too small to play defense, they should have converted him into a defensive forward a la Bob Gainey, he would have thrived in that role.
@@tomwilliams1849 I remember that Habs media would call him BreezeBy and fans would call him Briseboo. If there was a poster child for mistreatment in Montreal, It'd be Patrice Brisebois.
You should listen to the Odjick interview about Messier. The guy wanted all the ice time and did not want to practice. Messier was the worse thing to happen to the Canucks ever!
And we have never recovered from it still
Messier complained to New York Ranger management in 1993 that he wasn't getting enough ice time, telling senior executives, 'We can't win with this guy (Roger Neilson).' Neilson liked to match his lines, something Messier didn't like, and Roger ended up getting fired. Keenan came in as coach, and the Rangers won the Cup in 1994. There it worked. Glenn Healey told this story a few years ago.
Messier going to the Canucks was obviously a bad fit, as was Mike Keenan. Pat Quinn said this about Mike Keenan: ' Mike Keenan couldn't draw up a play on the chalkboard if his life depended on it.' Keenan has won championships in junior, AHL, and NHL, however.
Nedved is a czech, when he came to edm i wasn't expecting much, but he went down and blocked a shot on his first shift, surprised the s#&$ out of me . Also had 15 pts in 16 games and was +1, so the memories here aren't too bad
Yes. Oilers fans got a decent side of him during his time there
I miss Don Taylor on CKVU Sports Page . He was way better than TSN’s Sportscentre .
Eric Lindros and every team he ever played for.
And all the teams he didn't play for.
Lol…ok. Philadelphia would disagree.
If Yashin gave a shit, he'd have had a hall of fame career. Instead, he was Alexi Zhamnov with slightly flashier numbers.
Yashin throwing a hissy fit was the best thing that ever happened to Ottawa, it brought both Spezza and Chara to the Senators. while Yashin's career ended in misery.
The Isles paid him over $17M over 8 years to not play for them.
Ottawa still managed to f that up BIG time lol
@@oldsingingstudentdougbillf1665 lol. Um Spezza had over a decade of all-star level seasons with the Sens and helped get them to the Cup finals even AFTER Chara left. That's a BIG time win of a trade, I'd say.
I remember going to the first game Fedorov played in detroit after the trade. The wings smoked Anaheim but he managed to score a goal. The fans booed him every time he touched the puck. I could understand that.
I couldn’t Understand the fans that continued years later when we was on Columbus after failing in Anaheim. Now that his career is over I’m sure most of the people only remember the good.
Messier was known to bend up hockey cards when fans wanted him to autograph them after the games.
He was that much of a - - - -
Go to any Canucks game with the Larscheiders in attendance...at 11:11 of every period you'll the "Messier Sucks" chant
😂😂
Been to many, never heard the chant
@@rygy20 The Larscheiders are a group of fans that fill entire section 326/327. They only make it out to 7/8 games. When they are at games you will know, they stand the entire game. "Messier sucks" at 11:11 is one of their chants
*7/8 per season
Ahhhh, gotcha. Makes sense...
I had no idea messier was so hated (I was just a kid). Talk about an eye opener
He is only hated in vancouver so it is analogous to being hated in care bear land. Worst thing vancouver will do is put the wrong color sprinkles on Mess's ice cream cone.
Man, Vancouver fans might of hated Mess, but in Edmonton the man in a damn legend. Street named after him and everything.
I think most fans have forgiven Fedorov. You still get the occasional one who pipes up, but people look at them cockeyed these days. When he came out for the alumni game against Toronto the fans cheered.
And it's really common to see Wings fans on social media push to have his jersey retired.
@@Rodanguirus Count me among them.
Rangers should've given Messier his contract in 1997. He never wanted to be in Vancouver.
Who would?
@@chickfinnegan8969 💀💀
I don't know people in Detroit that hate Fedorov. Guy won them a few cups. Say what you will. That dude isn't lazy.
Wish you could say the same about his brother. Lazy is essentially the reputation Fedor had in the NHL.
@@sacredalien8011 right, call the guy winning cups lazy.
His legacy is slightly tainted by the contract negotiation shit but still very much beloved. Mostly bridge under the water, it’s been 15 years
@@KidsFund1 what cups did Fedor win? Re read my comment
@@KidsFund1 Sergei had a brother named Fedor Fedorov believe it or not. And he was very much known for being lazy. I never said anything bad about Sergei
Vancouver should have drafted Jagr instead of Nedved, oh what could have been, with a Jagr-Linden-Bure first line
@B.C. Burg Jagr probably gone number 1 in that draft if he had not told every team that he wasn't going to come over. The reason Pittsburgh took him is because Jagr wanted to play with Lemieux
Bure was talented and very selfish. Check out how very few game winning goals he scored. Most selfish player of all time.
I live in Detroit, and I can speak for us all when we say we don't hate Sergei Fedorov, at all.
Well back during his controversy fans were pretty heated when he made those decisions. Some fans believe it or not actually didn’t like him.
@@idontgivetkachuk I wasnt trying to say you were wrong. I agree though, in one of his return games he got hit by Kronwall and the crowd cheered like we won the cup again.
Federov was hated in Detroit, when he wouldn’t sign my parents who wore his jersey and Yzerman’s as it was the year they met, stopped wearing Federov’s jersey and still won’t wear it, and his bad faith dealings are a reason Federov’s jersey shouldn’t be retired in Detroit
I was @ game prior to Keenan being announced, you could feel & hear the air leaving the arena.... what a "Mess" ca
Yashin got screwed in Ottawa. The reason they drafted Daigle was to get the French from Gatineau and area to come to the Palladium. Neither Fergie nor Bowness thought it was a good idea but were over ruled and Daigle got the ROYAL treatment. Then, they pushed Daigle as the Star when it was Yashin who led the team. It was POLITICAL BULLSHIT to please Quebecers.
Punch them all out
i remember rickie mccleish of the flyers, probably the smoothest skater on the team, his skating seemed effortless, and his 40 goals a year, were appreciated, but the philadelphia media always called him lazy, because, apparently he didnt sweat enough while playing. this is how ludicris, the media in any town can be
As soon as I heard Messier was getting 11, a number that was retired in tribute to the late Wayne Maki, I knew he was only in it for himself.
Messier and Keenan were the biggest mistakes in Canucks history.
Messier/Keenan combo was the darkest time in franchise history for the Canucks.
Never new that messier and federov were hated by the fans. Personally I Never liked messier. He always came across as an arrogant and dirty pos that got away with murder in the ice.
I'm going to start buying jerseys for pure troll mode and a #11 Messier Canucks jersey is a perfect place to start. After that, I might have a #20 Kreider Habs jersey custom made...then maybe a #4 Stevens MDA jersey...then maybe a #88 Lindros Nordiques jersey...then maybe a #16 Hull Sabres jersey...then maybe a half-and-half #81 Pit/Det Hossa jersey...then maybe a...ok, I digress...
#22 Lemieux Detroit jersey...ok, NOW I digress.
#5 Samuelsson Bruins jersey...I can't stop...
As a Flyers fan, I would say the most hated player in the NHL is/was anyone who's played for the Flyers.
As a non-Flyers fan, I would give the same answer.
Shocked John Tavares doesn't make the list... only time islanders games were sold out was to boo and hate on him... I mean the Fans rather put down and shame the "traitor".
I can see why he was left off. The only thing he did to make Isles fans hate him was leave, whereas the rest of the list seems to be guys whose actions while with their team is what made them reviled
Why are they mad at him? He gave them the prime years of his career and no one stays on the same team their whole career
@@rossrobertson674 he repeatedly told the organization that he wanted to resign there. he told them not to trade him. the fans and organization felt that he had lied to them , and strung them along.
Ross Robertson he constantly told the team and media all season his intent was to sign a new contract with the islanders and kept telling management not to trade him. Reasonable for the fans to despise the guy. You don’t lie to an entire organization and don’t expect backlash.
@@CommanderTK9091 exactly. some of his former teammates hinted at him maybe being a selfish player too. listen to the Robbie Schremp interview.
As an oil fan, good job mess!!!
This came out 4 months ago. Surprised something more in our times wasn't brought up like Pajama Boy John Tavares.
You could do an entire video on Keenan and the teams that he coached whose fan bases still hate him to this day
Gets results but wears put his welcome very quickly.
@@SamtheBravesFan Keenan didn't get results with The Canucks.
Add St Louis to the Keenan hate list.
He wasn’t very loveable!
@@AAbram-yt9de lol came here to make that comment. STL haaaaates Keenan.
I still kinda liked the guy though haha
Pens fan so a little bias. But I remember many pittsburgh fans hating jagr even before he got traded. Near the end many thought he was exaggerating his injuries. He was continually boo'd for many years after he left
He always milked and exaggerated his injuries. Especially the groin injuries he would pull out of a hat whenever he needed it. My biggest gripe with the guy was all the smack he talked. I want to be traded. If I were Pittsburgh I would trade me. I feel like I am dying alive. And one of the most infamous quotes after he was traded something he wanted and begged for he said. I am going to show Pittsburgh that they make big mistake. The only thing jagr ever cared about was $$$$ and getting as much of it as possible. That's why he's played for so long,the size of his gambling debts and love of gambling are legendary. He recently said the reason he is still playing is because if he doesn't his partners will pull out of the team he owns and played for. He was a fantastic player while in Pittsburgh loved by the fans but he threw that all away chasing dollars.
haha, I like Messier even more now
Booooooo
Messier even had the nerve to sue The Canucks organization for $6
million after his mediocre play with the team. The Canucks had some of
their worst years ever with his lackluster play, missing the play-offs 3
consecutive years. He said he increased The Canucks' market value. What
a f**king joke. Messier should have been sued for underperforming. A
stupid idea for Canucks management to bring him and Mike Keenan in and
dismantle the team. Messier deserves to be hated by Canucks fans. Canuck
management's desperation doesn't sit too well either.
Liked and subscribes because a)you didnt beg me to and b)the video started so quickly I thought I had accidently skipped through a boring intro that plagues all yt videos. Cheers bud
Np man. I figured going right into the stories would be a better start. Then I weave it into the topic to move on! Hope u enjoyed and thanks for sticking around!!
What is the story about Larry Murphy in Toronto? I remember the fans booing him everytime he touched the puck. I found it Absolutely disgusting. If that was me and we were playing for the Stanley Cup final I would score on my own net to give the fans what they deserve
Jason Arnott was booed out of Edmonton.
Why did they hate him?
@@justworkingfortheweekend8504 I don't recall, but near the end he was being booed every time he touched the puck.
@@justworkingfortheweekend8504 it was because he always missed the net. Oilers were very bad team then and Arnott was a scapegoat just like how Justin Schultz was abused as an oiler. Too high of expectations and scapegoating by the media. Jeff Petry...
The one time I wasn’t too impressed with the Moose was when he signed with the Canucks.To me it was just an all out cash grab and ego boosting move.I remember when he signed with them and thinking wtf is he doing?
This is gonna be a great video! I already know it!
Thanks man!!
Nick Ritchie for Boston. Jeez that guy cost us the playoffs
It’s actually insane that the NHL’s leadership award is named after Messier knowing what he was like in Vancouver
Vancouver sucks - not #11
Lindros in Quebec
You have to give him credit for one thing, his refusal to play for the Nords resulted in the eventual Avalanche winning 2 Stanley Cups.
I'm glad the flyers made that pick. My Devils came back, won the cup and Stevens knocked his head off. Cleanly and we won a second cup. Living a south jersey aka flyers country. I ABSOLUTELY LOVED IT
cant really put him in the list . The only reason he didn't played for the nords , Aubut the owner of the Nords was the worst piece of shit in the world , not just because he was a bad person but because he said very bad and very sexual explicit stuff to the mom and the fact that everybody knew Aubut was going to sell the team and Lindros was there just to increase the price. I mean the dude publicly said he doesn't want to go to the nords way before the draft. and he was loved by all the other teams he went to. Sucks for the nords but I don't think he belongs to this list
A LOT of people don’t know how Detroit actually treated Fedorov. Starting from the fact they tried to use his inability to read in English while signing his contract very first time he got to America (the number was waaay lower then what they originally agreed on). He said it himself, Detroit had great fan base but he always felt like he wasn’t needed on the team , or that he wasn’t trusted because what everyone else got in time and with no problems , he had to constantly fight for
In Montreal people hate Patrice Brisebois just because I make lots of money, every times I touch the puck people start to boo him . Not the glorious times in Habs history
He was also a documented douchebag off the ice
I was thinking about that. People treated him so badly. My absolute favourite player.
Sergei Federov, Aka The Best Free Agent in franchise mode for every late 90s and early 00s NHL video game.
Mark Messier and Mike Keenan ruined the Canucks
Bryan McCabe in that Linden trade to 8:22
Great video, you could probably do a a part 2, sometime, Jagr in Pittsburgh springs to mind, that got ugly at the end & a lot of the fan base are still sour about it today
Thanks man!! And yeah I saw that when editing 😂. Didn’t know if I wanted to point it out or not.
"Self-entitlement"
How many times is Mark Messier's name on the Stanley Cup?
He was a Champion everywhere he went but Vancouver, I think that says more about Vancouver than it does about Mark Messier...lol
I liked McCabe as a leaf fan but he did have some bad mistakes
Was only good for the PP. I was pissed when they resigned him instead of selling high on him
according to the guy its"Mcgabe"
@@njiqqaat2499 this fucking killed me
Good ole' Alexi Yashin. Both the most Overrated and Underrated player of all time. Great Player, Horrible Contract, Injury Issues, and character concerns.
You’re missing Patrice Brisebois with the Habs. He was booed despite having some decent years with the team.
I remember that. That was pathetic.... a shame for real habs fans, a shame for French Canadian. The guy was choosed as THE reason why the habs was so bad this year. This put on him so much pressure that the habs doc sent him in vacation in the middle of the race for the playoff. The CH organization decide to wash their hands of this by saying they didnt know why and where Brisebois whas wich was totally false. After that, it was way more terrible. As soon as he touch the puck, he was bhooed (booed ? boohed ?).
I remember clearly that it was at that point that i start skipping checking games because it was too pathetic from the crowd and i cant stand that.
Or the biggie, Jaques Lemaire vs. the Habs fans over guy the flower. They treated Jaques so bad and tormented him so much he got a job coaching in Jersey, drafted montreals next "anointed one" hometown hero goalie and used the trap montreal refused to deploy to win Lord Stanely's cup.
3:44 - Sergei Federov hated? I do not agree with that in the end of the day. Federov was back in the day one of the most tallented players in hockey and even Wayne Gretzky back in the day said after Mario Lemieux, his opinion was that Federov was the best forward in the league. Federov was a great 2-way center and could be just as good in defense as offense. The only time I remember he was dissliked was in 2003-2005 when he left the Red Wings for Anaheim Mighty Ducks.
That was understandble for the time being as he was a fan favourite beside Yzerman & Lidstrom. But years after, he regained that love & respect from Red Wings fans and I have not heard in many years anything negative about him from them.
Well, I'm a Ducks fan so I was happy he came but dissapointed he was not as good he was in Detroit. I imagined if Ducks had had him with Karya and Selanne, the Ducks would indeed have been the MIGHTY ones in the league. But that never happend sadly. Or imagine that line with Ducks defense line of Pronger and Nidermayier = CRUSHING the opponents!!!!
Gotta disagree with McCabe, we gave him a ton of shit for his flaws but he wasnt "hated" persay. I mean i still like him better than Dion Phaneuf and i booed McCabe at alot of games.
Doin was a fake player
Greed.. Always present
Loved it I think you missed Heatley
I didn’t include every single player that was hated. Wanted to just point out some of the most infamous haha. But yeah Heatley is a good one!
I know right. He only killed his teammate in a car crash where he was completely irresponsible
@@SonnyDlicious He also demanded a trade from Ottawa only 1 year into a 6 year deal, so unfortunately he didn't grow up much after killing Snyder.
@@idontgivetkachuk You did a great job, man!
I just finished watching. Solid presentation! 👌
Just seeing Messier still riles me up🤬
I can understand u dear ..
Im a Caps fan since early nineties but my dads favorite always been Canucks n i remebering that
Messier era n my dads broken heart when his favorite players left the building one by one 🤭
Crazy how he's so hated in Vancouver. But yet here in NY he's the Messiah
@@rapodejko Perhaps because he actually tried in NY?
@@shaneaugustine1280 after he won us the cup in 94 I always felt he was just playing for a paycheck. It was all about the money
@Rollo_Tomasi Bingo
Being from the Philly area and a huge Flyers fan, I think Bryzgalov should have been here. He only played well for a little while here, the majority of the time he played like an amateur, and the contract he was bought out of was insanely high. I'm pretty sure he is STILL being paid by the Flyers. Also a Flyer that I hated was Forsberg. Don't get me wrong, when he was in the lineup he was great. He centered a line with Gange and Knuble, and at the time they were one of, if not the, best lines in the league. His "foot problems" started after he signed a big contract here the year after the lockout when the salary cap was introduced in the NHL. Because of this we had no money left for LeClair or Roenick. If his foot was a problem ok but he was out for a while until the league shut down for a few weeks for various players to compete for their countries in the Olympics. Forsberg came out of injury, played the ENTIRE tournament for Sweden, comes back for Philly and doesn't even finish the first game back for the Flyers and goes back to being "injured" for a while. When I hear the name Peter Forsberg, I always remember that and hate him for what he did, or really didn't do, for my Flyers.
It's really not Mark Messiers fault... Management / Ownership are the ones that allowed it to happen.... A player getting everything that he wants is exactly what they are trying to do. it's a job. They are going to ask for a LOT and management needs to negotiate down. Maybe they were chasing sweet sweet Lays Chip sponsorship? lol
In today's NHL I rate messier a 6/10
Patrice Brisebois was booed everytime he touched the puck in Montreal
you could probably add Marion Gaborik with the Wild to this list. I remember so many people hating on him over his contract and sitting out games
Gardiner and kessel 100%
as a Canuck fan, I will not lie. I do hate Mark Messier. I did meet him in person, got his autograph at a Vancouver card show. Before this 2021-22 season started, I burned a Messier Canucks jersey...
Fedorov was my 2nd favorite player behind Yzerman growing up in the 90's. The fans suck. To this day, I can't stand a lot of the fans of my hometown Pens.
Thanks for jumping right in, eff an intro!👍👍
Yashin should have sucked it up and played. Considering he wanted to be paid in a contract year, he should have just played the last year and then he could leave in free agency. I guess he did get what he wanted after all. Thanks Milbury
The Messier import to Van is like an allegory for mass immigration
Just wanted to concur with some of the other folks from the area that Federov was not "hated" here. His behavior was definitely question at times, as well as his overall commitment to the team. As I recall, he disappeared in the play offs his first few appearances, and after establishing himself as a great two way center- the poor immigrant kid from Russian now considered it more about him than the team. At least, that's how a lot of us felt and there are many examples to back it up. As good as he was, his attitude in his later years left a bad taste in some fans mouths. When you go to Wings games, of all people you see wearing jerseys with throw-back names on him, I can tell you his is among the more rarely seen- particularly when you consider his contributions. But saying he is hated here is bit strong.
I was never a Canucks fan, but started to support them when Messier joined the team. That would be a re-building season as the Canucks would move into their new digs at GM Place, they would get a new logo and new uniform. Former fan favourites like Linden either left or would be traded away shortly after. I saw it as a fresh start, and thought I’d give them a shot. It didn’t last too long.
Messier blew up that team
what happened to Claude Lemieux? I thought he was #1.
Most of us have forgiven Fedorov, and I would say the majority at the time he left were not angry with *him* but with losing him.
Ofc, there will always be people who demand sacrificing everything to The Team, and people who just don't like the dude for being an arrogant superstar (he was! it's part of why some of us liked him 😅)
How about the guys who fornicate with a teammates wife? Corson,Shanahan, Chelios.......lots of stories about guys getting in fights with teammates.
I know about Shanahan but wonder if the Lindros was true.
Gary Leeman. Chelios messed with Ronald Corey's wife
Could make an entire video just on Sabres players from the past decade. Rasmus Ristolainen takes the cake though for somehow consistently getting played way more than he should and being very bad in those minutes
Go Green.. !
Federov was such a beast
In regards to Messier, it is critical to point out that his declining numbers once arriving in Vancouver is a secondary if not tertiary issue. The way he divided and ultimately dismantled a once contending team, causing the fan favorites to be traded is the reason he is so hated in Vancouver.
The ONE and ONLY thing Messier did right in Vancouver, in my opinion, was insisting on the number 11. This idea of retiring number 11 in Vancouver is nothing more than superstitious nonsense! I wish more players would take the number 11 in Vancouver.
Plus nowadays Messier has the gall to re-write his tenure with the Canucks. He claims he was brought in to help mention a young squad... even though at the time the Canucks had: Pavel Bure, Alexander Mogilny, Trevor Linden, Kirk McLean (just a few years removed from his Hart and Vezina runner-up seasons), a young Markus Naslund, a rookie Mattias Ohlund, NHL veteran in Martin Gelinas, Brad May, Hedican, Aucoin, the "Wild Thing" Scotty Walker.... this was a contending team that Messier was supposed to help bring the Stanley Cup. Instead, he turned the arena into the "Pacific Mausoleum".
Why do you think honoring a player that died of brain cancer is a superstition and that more should dishonor this by demanding the number?
@@candicecharney3530 If the man had died of brain cancer last month, you might have a point. This is was almost 50 YEARS ago now! Time to move on!!
No Jagr? As a Pens fan I’m disappointed as he had the shit booed out of him for YEARS
Wow!! Rly!?
Yep we fkn hate him to this day! The way he left here and the things he did can never be forgiven. I loved how we booed him for years after he left.
Need to update with Tavares and the Islanders
Holy cow dude I'm loving your content. Your channel deserved to explode
Thanks sm dude!! That rly means a lot! Hope u decide to stick around!!
Love the vids man keep it up!
Thanks sm man!! I appreciate your support!!
Khovalchuck with Atlanta, LA, Montreal, Washington. Very talented, but no hustle.