Nationals ditching Harper for pitching and defense won them a title - Rob Parker | MLB | UNDISPUTED
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2019
- Rob Parker joins Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe to discuss the Washington Nationals completing a miraculous journey to win the franchise's first ever World Series title.
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Nationals ditching Harper for pitching and defense won them a title - Rob Parker | MLB | UNDISPUTED
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Would Washington have won the World Series if they kept Bryce Harper?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED nope. That dude is a walking playoff curse.
@@jakefortner377 it be like Dodgers winning without Kershaw on the team
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED no they don’t. If they sign Harper they don’t sign Corbin. He was a big part of the pitching which was Robs point of why they won but doesn’t realize he doesn’t go to DC if Harper resigns.
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@@adrianguzman2876 Agreed. Also, idk why Nats fan are still so angry at Harper leaving. Nats offered Bryce a contract that made him look elsewhere. Yea the total was $300 million but over $100 million of that was deferred with the final payment being 2052. I wish Rob Parker had brought up that point in this segment.
Though I gotta give props to Nats for going out and getting the pitching they needed. Also, they did a fantastic job of developing their young players like Soto.
I'm hoping my Phillies bounce back this year. JT Realmuto, Bryce Howard, and Aaron Nola are really looking like the stars of the team. Hopefully, Rhys Hoskins can start hitting a little better. I'm very optimistic about Joe Girardi as the manager.
Bryce Harper was right when he said he'll bring DC a ring. Him getting out of town helped the Nationals win it all
He’s still celebrating that walk off grand slam against the Cubs while his former team are celebrating an actual title.
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hes bound to win in philly, they are a great team
for once i agree with rob parker, pitching wins the world series. everytime. the hate on byrce harper is unwarranted.
Bidwellz9 lol theyre really not that good
A segment where Rob makes sense and I don’t wanna reach through my screen and strangle him?!?!?!? What?!?!? Congrats to the nats tho, as an Astros fan y’all where great
Rob knows baseball that's why.
Well that's cuz he covers baseball primarily.
@Random Sports12 Yeah sorry that's where I think he is wrong and where Skip was right not having Harper around in the clubhouse had a MASSIVE effect on the whole team you could just see how much more joy they played with once they got rolling.
RIP winning Astros franchise
if astros keep the core , yall making it next year. This from nats fan
Funny how in the first week of the season when the Phillies beat the Nats Phillies fans called the Nats a dumpster fire that Harper escaped from... Guess who got the last laugh :)
hahahaha i remember that being so salty as a nats fan
Which fans said that?
Yeah I wonder who said that. Phillies have had eight straight non-playoff seasons.
N A T S 🏆
@@daviiwonder All the Philly fans that came down to Nats park
The ONLY sport Rob is competent talking about
#1 Thunder Fan well he gets paid above average to talk about Football & basketball so I’d say your wrong about that pal.
John Albarran baseball is the only thing this clown is good at talking about
John Albarran No he’s not wrong.
I agree. He hates too much in the other sports.
Rob is wrong they don't make it with Bryce, he's Me, Me, Me, Soto is now the Superstar player he's everything Bryce is not,
I always listen when Rob talks baseball but anything else is a no
Nah he’s actually really smart and insightful, however he crosses the line a bit when talking about Brady.
Yes he does...
He's an acquired taste
@@paulcharles2457 If you really want to acquire a taste for flailing absurdity.
@Ben Dover He Does
But what was Scherzer’s QBR?
not higher then daks. lol.
3 in the league behind... DAKOTA PRESCOTT
LMAOOOOOO
Michael Wilkie another QBR comment... how original.
Hahahahaha that’s dead on
the conversation is so civilized when they're talking baseball it's weird lmao
Nick Garcia they don’t watch it
Shane Pleasants shannon and skip low key do , and Parker is a hall of fame voter
0:24 Skip straight flexing... 😆🐐
AMAX you peep him covering up his Nike socks though? 😂
As a Dodgers fan I congratulate the Washington Nationals. They deserve it after knocking out two heavyweights. Regardless if Dodgers and Astros had a better team. Both heavy weights made a bad move and it cost them big. Not to take anything from the Nationals cause they deserve it. Again they played a smart chest game and made the rite moves. Truly happy for these Guys even though I’m a Dodgers fan for over 40 years but as a baseball fanatic. I completely and honestly congratulate the Nationals. What a come back! One word... WOW!!!!!
I can appreciate Maverick Grabbers , much respect my friend, I wish the other haters, would see the series for what it was, a complete team, effort from top to bottom, instead of excuses on why the Astros didn't win, they gave them the series, they left men on base, shoulda put Cole in, they were the better team, Blah, blah, blah , Sore Losers, Tip your Caps to the World CHAMPIONS !!
2019 was our time 2020 was your time
Is this the first time in history that away teams won every game in a full 7 game World Series?
Yes and not only that, but in all sports with a best of 7 format.
First time in sports dude
2019 has been the year of the road team. Road teams were 5-1 in the NBA Finals and 5-2 in the Stanley Cup as well.
Xhoven and all three are first time winners.
So we gotta watch out for wildcards this nfl postseason huh
Rob loves baseball and that’s why I only take him seriously on mlb topics . Other things .. “imma head out “
Yeah deuces
Facts.
the celebrations in the dug out were awesome
Finally some baseball!
More baseball segments next season, please
This is the first time they've talked about baseball this year.
It actually isn't. They talked about Kershaw's choke job earlier in October. You should check that vid out; it was a great segment.
@@goldenkizaru1560 Okay fine, one other time. Ya got me.
@@kristfur they also discussed it yesterday as well. So TWO segments hava
They don't talk about it often because it doesn't get views. Compare the views on this video to ones about basketball and football it's night and day
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I’m an Angels and Trout fan, but Everything they said about Bonds is true, don’t care what happened, Bonds was a beast!
ROIDS
Although I'm not an avid baseball fan. I'm happy when they do talk about baseball and need to more
My dad always told me good pitching beat good hitting
A. C. You aren’t very smart huh? That went right over your head
Slither Down I got that and I chuckled, you funny
Amazing series and run by the nats
My man Rob Parker out there dropping knowledge
He is still kinda wrong, he's missing the point of Harper being a bad teammate and ruins team chemistry. Why did his own pitcher choke him in their dugout? This Nat's team had ultimate chemistry this season with Harper I don't think it would happen. They probably wouldn't beat the dodgers because they own him
Congrats to the Nationals!!!!!
#WASHINGTON NATIONALS!
#WORLD CHAMPS!
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When skip started talking about going in a run and feeling like you can win every game I started getting furious because I thought he was about to Segway in to the cowboys. Thank god he didn’t. This was a very heartwarming segment.
I officially like Rob now. I don't care about stars, I care about teams.
Finally at least some baseball in this show
Once Rob Parker talks about football I'm out, but baseball he's got great knowledge no lie.
The Nationals had decent pitching when they reached the playoffs with Bryce Harper. Look at Bryce Harper and the team's batting average IN those playoffs. They failed because they couldnt hit, NOT because they couldnt pitch, in those playoffs. That was Harper's job. The money they saved on Harper and used elsewhere is precisely the reason the Nationals are champions. Anyone saying otherwise is simply dead wrong.
Agreed. The age of stars-and-scrubs teams is over. This is why complete teams like the Yankees and Astros continue to do well, and teams like the Angels and Rockies fail
We've had a couple good WS in a row.good to be a baseball fan!!
Best baseball game ever!
Disclaimer here: Nats fan
One of the few times they are talking baseball love it.
Hey Bryce thanks for backing up the talk. The ring wouldn't be possible without you. Lmao.
As a dc native and die hard nat fan I can say that we never once said we needed Harper. We had injury upon injury to our best players (rendon, turner, howie, Zimmerman) to start the year. The relief pitching was a joke. We knew that if we got healthy and picked up any sort of relief pitching the nats would be in the mix
Facts s # DCvsEVERYBODY
Rob Parker I would like to congratulate you with the highest QBR.
History was made no home team won a game at home this world series this is something to tell your grandkids when you get older
Don't hate on my Washington Nationals ! #ProudDCNative #Natittude #IBackTheNats
DCvsEVERYBODY southeast DC for LIFe
It’s a sad day when I gotta agree with Rob Parker 😢
I'm really just wondering what pair of J's ol Broussard gotta come through with hahahaha
4:50 - 5:20 can we just appreciate that full pan by the camera crew. Props FS1
Rob “Poo Poo” Parker 😂💀
Great discussion guys!
They didnt ditch Harper. He left the offer on the table
They wouldn't have gotten to the ws. It's because they didn't sign Harper that the nats were about to get Patrick Corbin an Anibal Sanchez
Rob Parker look like he drink unwanted carwash bucket water for Nourishment LOL 🤣
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Looks like he remembers the taste at 1:04 🤣
Batman Pop's Got Damn I spilled my drink Laughing at this comment. Too Funny 😂 😂😂
@@2805jayman Hahaha you silly📱👀😄😂👍🏽
@@onesonofjacob 😃😁
I think Hockey comes before baseball as well for star power helping your team win
Of course but when was the last time anyone on fs talked about hockey
Absolutely. Just look at Connor McDavid. As soon as he's on the ice he's making plays.
@@spencerbowman5658 They basically can't because NBC and NHL Network have hockey covered.
Indeed, as a Ducks fan, in 03 if we had Teemu on the roster we might have won the game 7, and in 06-07 we had leadership and star power for days compared to the Sens.
Rob “Nats hitting had nothing to do with them winning” oh so what about the clutch hits time and again from the Nationals?
Pitching Clamps down the opponents run generating.Then hitting big becomes less critical.
Would the outcome have happened with Harper still in town. I think so if they would be able to sign Corbin as well. While I like Eaton and I like speedy guys, Harper is a better right fielder with a much stronger arm (he threw out Robels at 3rd from 310 feet away on the fly and Soto at home from 275-280 ft) and has higher offensive numbers and the same amount of stolen bases this year. Soto, Robles, Harper in same outfield......... However, with an already very high payroll, several key players coming up on free agency this year and next, and an aging roster keeping Harper was not a real option, which is why the Nationals went soft on their offers and had ridiculous deferment times of 23 years (1st offer) and 42 years (2nd offer). Harper did not leave for more money. He left because the team could not offer acceptable terms and we may see a repeat this year with Rendon. One of the reason for this? The Nats have around $500 million wrapped up in 3 pitchers. Of course, those 3 pitchers are a big reason they are hoisting the trophy!
Rob Parker made so many good points this segment
Well Baseball is all about timing, what you expect Mr. Sharpe, sure It matters when you hit, It is call flow of the game
Who else didn't even know baseball was on ?
Rob Parker is the best! You gotta let him talk LeTaco again. I wanna see those bronsexuals get triggered LMAO
Y’all wonder why other sports don’t get talked about because the haters swarm video related or unrelated to a certain player for likes
*W*
You don't pay for great pitching when a single bat is costing you 300 million! Harper leaving is the reason they won the world series!
The Phillies are really going to regret that contract. Harper has above average OPB and decent power. That's it. Definitely not worth 330MM. He's not even in the top 10 players in MLB.
Rob Parker is right. Great pitching and timely hitting wins championships. Look at the 2015 Royals. They came from behind 8 or 11 times.
Gotta love that one yearly baseball segment after the WS
Congratulations to the Washington Nationals for winning the world Series in 2019. NATION CAPITOL. LOVE ALL TEAMS IN THE NATION CAPITOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not having Harper is absolutely the reason why they won because it gave space to pick up a more complete team.
Exactly. Instead of paying 330 million dollars for a .250 AVG / 30 HR / high strikeout type of guy, which are a dime a dozen nowadays
Didn't the Giants start stacking up titles as soon as Barry left?
Yeah but it took a while to get those titles.
Skip hit the nail on the head kn why the NATIONALS won, he needs to talk to his buddy SAS!!
I actually think the dodgers choking is a bigger reason why the Nats are champions.
Bryce harper was right when he said that he will bring DC a ring
What are you talking about
162 games a year + playoffs...and the day after the World Series they talk about baseball.
No one cares about baseball. Look at the ratings. Regular season football beats world series game.
@@RealShaktimaan mhm
@@RealShaktimaan Last years ws had better ratings than the nba finals....
@@StaySqueezy12 so did Superbowl.
@@RealShaktimaan That's the single highest viewed event in the US. Everything is less than that. If having less viewers than the superbowl counts as no one watching, the noone watches anything.
Rob said it all. Pitching and defense is how you win
Rob Parker is brought in for MLB analyst and Brady hating
😂😂😂
THANK YOU BRYCE😂😂😂😂😂
literally everything they're saying is what happened with the giants success as well. Bonds left in 2007, and 3 years later they win their first WS, because of good pitching and "timely hitting". as a giants fan, this Washington team's playoff run felt very similar to the giants WS runs (the team atmosphere, the peaking at the right time, to the pitching arsenal, to the timely hitting, etc) and on top of that the nationals were looking even better. once I saw how they played in game 7 against the dodgers, I knew they were gonna win it all. they just had "it".
Bruh. Barry Bonds has ridiculous numbers with SF in the postseason. I dont think he was holding the team back at all
Rob picked the Nats to win it all even before there wildcard game with the Brewers, I gotta give him his props for that.
Well juan soto is only 21 years old , I don't know if you knew that
I didnt know shannon was going to know this much about baseball
The problem with Harper is that every team has over paid for him.
Uhh Philly is the second team Harper has ever been on. Washington drafted him
Your arguments about a star player helping a team individually advanced in the playoffs or even win a world championship is valid. But you're forgetting the most important trait of a player coming to a club or that can bring to a club and that is their personality. This affects teams in the way they play more than people think about. And sometimes getting rid of a player can lighten up the mood in a particular Clubhouse and those players will end up having more fun while they're playing. I think that is the case with the Nationals. All of the focus wasn't on Bryce Harper and his hair flips.
I want the Kawhi New Balances! Congrats DC!
It also helped that the Astros slumped in the World series.
We, means chemistry Rob, add that to your analogy
I love people who talk about baseball on tv when they watched maybe 5 games the entire year
Watching Sharpe talk about baseball is like watching a lumberjack tried to dance ballet in a tutu.
About the thumbnail... we did not ditch Harper, Harper ditches us
Anyone remember that whole Ewing Theory thing?
Verlander has a ring so it doesn't matter to him, His stuff will still get 12-14 wins in the regular season and ALDS win toward the end of his career. Kershaw is in the same boat and maybe has to go the same route get out of LA just like verlander got out of Detroit to win it all.
they never ever speak baseball and wait till final game to act like analyst
Nice to see the Nationals preeminent in the national sports conversation. GO NATS!!!...
SO THE NATS WONT WITHOUT SCORINGS . THANK YOU HARPER FOR LIVING
The year of the first timers
How does not one person the panel make the obvious comment that by not signing Harper, the Nats could go out and get Corbin? Aren't these guys supposed to be professionals?? Rob even says the Nats won because of pitching...I love Rob, c'mon!
Pitching, pitching, pitching, it starts with pitching. About 90% of your defense is pitching. The Nats were 19-31 after 50 games mainly because of a horrible bullpin. The pitching did get better after Rizzo brought Hudson and Rodney in. After Doolittle came back from IR, Martinez finally had something to work with, slight as it might be, it was something. To show how thin it was, the starters were being used as relievers in the playoffs. Anyhow, it ultimately comes down to pitching. You can never have to much pitching. Yes, the team did hit, no. 2 in scoring runs, no.1 in the NL in stolen bases, I think in the top 5 in the NL in HR(s). This team is a good team. But, they need to bring Stras back and rebuild the bullpen. Keep Doos, Rainey, resign Hudson, go from there.
Of course not...team beats individual...2019 World Series Champions
It was bryceless!!!!
Can’t wait to hear the opinion of people who never watched a nats game in the regular season
rob has
Bryce Harper can say he helped win the WS for the Nats because by him leaving they were able to win.
Drip Bayless!!!!
I personally have an issue with the win stat for pitching because the vast majority of outcomes in a baseball game are inconsequential to head to head at bats. Likewise with the ERA stat as a relief pitcher. You pitch far less innings to which one earned run can heavily skew said statistic. There are numerous other statistics I believe should take precedent over those two stats for pitching.
I dont mind ERA for relievers because a lot of the runs they give up are inherited and dont even count against their ERA
Cue the “Bryce-less” jokes
I really don’t understand giving a player that kind of money, rarely does one player have a big enough impact to carry a team for years
Steven Martinez starpower, jersey and ticket sales are huge in a sport that doesent get as much coverage as basketball and football.
I kinda agree but also, the franchises are only increasing in value. Is it not right for the athletes to share the increase in that value?
Middleton not only hired a player, he bought a brand. Interest in the Phillies was on the decline in both attendance and TV viewing. In one stoke, he improved both (keep in mind baseball is a business). And he got a right fielder who is in the running for a gold glove that gave the team 13 outfield assists along with 35 HR and 114 RBI. Now their ownership needs to plug the very glaring holes with the starting rotation and bullpen. Martinez (with his very masterful managing of the pitching staff) just proved you can win in the playoffs with a questionable bullpen, but the starting rotation is a must.
Excellent point...pitching always wins games...why?... because you dont have to generate a lot of runs when your pitching only gives up a couple of runs.
Tell that to deGrom
2002 Barry Bonds was probably the closest a positional player can carry a franchise to a world series. The comparison for a pitcher would be Bob Gibson in 1968.
I was waiting for Rob to hate on Tom Brady but it never came... I'm impressed
The money the Nationals did not spend on Harper they, instead, spent on Patrick Corbin, Kurt Suzuki, Yan Gomes, Anibal Sanchez, and Brian Dozier. Corbin, Sanchez, and the two catchers made the difference. Furthermore, not signing Harper gave the Nats a position for Adam Eaton and for Victor Robles. With Harper in RF, then the Nats would have had to chose between Eaton and Robles in CF. The fielding was stronger with Eaton in RF, and Eaton contributes some hitting and base-running. It is not that the Nats improved when Harper signed with Philadelphia; rather, the Nats' general manager, Mike Rizzo, planned what the Nats would do if Harper left.
Yes, there are many paths that the Nats could have taken but didn't. They traded Lucas Giolito to the White Sox for Eaton, expecting Eaton to be the CF and leadoff man. They might have kept Giolito, and, if they had accurately seen the future, might not have needed to sign Patrick Corbin. When they made the Giolito-for-Eaton trade, Giolito had had control problems, and seemed to have lost his fastball. The Nats were not sure that Victor Robles would become their CF of the future -- he was a 19 year old kid playing in A ball. Juan Soto was a 17-year-old in rookie ball. White Sox coaches must have fixed some issues that Giolito had, while Robles and Soto have been much better than most would have expected. Chicago and Washington both did well in that trade.
That's baseball, as Gerardo Parra says.
I find it pathetic that the Nats wish their first title in franchise history and people still have Bryce on their minds .... move on
it is pretty sad, it was actually a win/win for Harper and the Nats, Harper got his contract, and the Nats used the money to go out and sign key players like Corbin, Sanchez and Suzuki.
Their first championship ever lol
My Nationals won Your Astros Choked at home....lmao
Robs great when he's not being a troll. Too much of today's sports media is trolling with clickbait content (along with the media in general really).
Harper is good but he gets Kd alot as well this nats team had contact and put the ball in play ...BH would have def strike out lmao in a spot where these scrappers got hits adam eaton was amazing.