Why Knife Disarms Won't Work!

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @blockmasterscott
    @blockmasterscott 4 года назад +9

    I have disarmed someone with a knife before. My wife had a female relative that was extremely abusive and violent at times. One time during an argument she grabbed a knife from the kitchen and came at my stomach with that same single thrust that we spend years defending against,(and yes, people do come in with a single thrust, I know because it was done to me). I did the classic step to the side and placed her in a wrist lock and took the knife.
    Funny thing is that not one of my inlaws asked me what happened. I was expecting a lot of angry people, but not one person said one word about it!
    So yes, disarms can work. I did it myself. And people really do come in with a single thrust.

    • @hiddenpathwingchun5045
      @hiddenpathwingchun5045 4 года назад +5

      I've disarmed two life-and-death knife attacks in close quarters [among others] using Wing Chun techniques. It IS possible. But most of what is taught by modern teachers is less effective than understanding how to cross beside the "line" or leverage the thumb. It should be quick and doesn't require [necessarily] an armbar.
      I believe it's important to understand certain principles rather than drill empty movements. A butter knife is a fine training implement if one is willing to accept contact [and maybe, if one is the trainee, wear eye protection].
      I do tire of those who say it can't be done. I can do it in a split second. The one disadvantage of a knife is loss of wrist "snap" which limits speed in comparison to a relaxed response. The key is understanding lines of force [shown most clearly by the Wooden Dummy].
      Glad you had the training to protect yourself!

    • @Shiresgammai
      @Shiresgammai 2 года назад +1

      It can be done, yes, but your story is like one in a million (the man was thankfully not a competent knifer). Most attackers use the "chainsaw attack" (also known as "prison rush") when they attack people and this method is very chaotic and aggressive (and hard to defend against. Either way, I'm glad that you were successful!

  • @johndorber6877
    @johndorber6877 3 года назад +4

    There's a Phillipino joke/saying that goes: "how do you tell the difference between the winner and the loser in a knife fight? The loser dies at the fight scene - The winner dies of blood loss in the hospital half an hour or so later.

  • @RevanJJ
    @RevanJJ 4 года назад +9

    My first thought was: “because of conceal carry.” However I’ll stick with the fact that you always have taught to evade, escape, or find an equalizer. Even then, escape is best because after they realize the knife won’t work well, as I said and it works both ways, they may be packing.
    Keep throwing the truths of true self defense even if some ppl give you heat sometimes! Best wishes!

  • @mikeyrambo2742
    @mikeyrambo2742 3 года назад

    I just discover your channel and I really appreciate how bluntly honest you are.

  • @Outrider74
    @Outrider74 4 года назад +4

    I'll add to this the fact that most knives are not seen until a split second before they're plunged into the target. Which speaks to the point of maintaining distance from your opponent, especially if you suspect he's carrying.

  • @austinhamby3088
    @austinhamby3088 4 года назад +1

    Two things:
    1. My brother in law blains the best self defense art is Parkour. You know how to move and get out of tough situations.
    2. Out of all videos that talk about knife defense, there is only one I found good and it involves one having a stick/baton as a defense weapon.
    ruclips.net/video/Sp2r1R_Hd_Q/видео.html&pbjreload=101 1:41

    • @revariox189
      @revariox189 2 года назад

      Your brother in law is one of the few people that actually understands and cares about the running away portion. Its said all the time yet few people have skills or athleticism or knowledge to get around town in the most effective manner regardless of obstacles. Some see a dead end/corner, I see a platform to walljump, pull myself from the top and be gone. It's the exit only I can use. (I or adequately trained people which I assume the run of the mill criminal is not, I mean most cops are not even that trained in pursuit by foot). Parkour is the martial art that is left behind (even tough it's goal is to leave the opponent behind) as it does not involve punch kickery which is what most are thinking when thinking of Martial arts....

  • @johnlewis8527
    @johnlewis8527 4 года назад +4

    Excellent advice
    Dan Inosanto has said at 21feet or less a knife is more dangerous then a gun

  • @beccawilkes9633
    @beccawilkes9633 4 года назад +5

    How soldiers fought for thousands of years is wrestling opponents to the ground, restraining them, isolating or removing the weapon and stabbing them

  • @trevspeaks3
    @trevspeaks3 3 года назад +1

    Knife disarms work. I've taken a folding pocket knife from a guy who took a swing at me in a road rage incident in a parking lot. I studied kali for only a few years. Muscle memory! You can choose not to train and hope you never need it or train maybe never need it. You can't walk away from ever situation. I'm living proof.

  • @beccawilkes9633
    @beccawilkes9633 4 года назад +1

    There's a video of a Green Beret teaching a Navy SEAL it involves (footwork) two on one arm ties, take downs, omoplata, arm bars, GRAPPLING which you discourage people from

  • @kamaljugessur9529
    @kamaljugessur9529 4 года назад +1

    Really informative.

  • @dr.michaellittle5611
    @dr.michaellittle5611 4 года назад

    Truly excellent advice.👍👏

  • @somerandomoldguy4940
    @somerandomoldguy4940 4 года назад +5

    Excellent as always. Common sense the least common of the senses.

  • @kobiesboxing4956
    @kobiesboxing4956 4 года назад

    You should be able to handle yourself in all situations because life can put you in all situations. You might not be able to attack the potential knifer before he gets the knife out, you also might not have a equalizer like a knife or a gun, and you might not be in a position to run from the knifer. In which running from a knifer can be dumb for you have your back turned to him. Which means you can't defend yourself if he attacks you from behind while you're running. I mean knife disarmament isn't the safest activity, but it can be done even if you get cut or stabbed in the process, and there's no guarantee you will be injured.

  • @Shiresgammai
    @Shiresgammai 2 года назад +1

    A very good video, well done, gentlemen! Most "Knife disarms" remind me of the crap disarms I've learned in the military.

  • @rynoerasmus7869
    @rynoerasmus7869 4 года назад +5

    Rewatch the video and look at the cardboard!!

  • @hiddenpathwingchun5045
    @hiddenpathwingchun5045 4 года назад

    I had to disarm two knife attacks [and a later pipe wrench attack] in closed quarters [no option but to engage]. Because of these experiences, I have a different opinion; I would certainly be dead if I hadn't been taught Wing Chun and associated disarms. I agree it is best to be observant and try to stay out of these situations as your story aptly illustrates. But it's not always possible. I recommend using butter knives for drilling; markers don't work because they bend and one can't learn to isolate, leverage against the thumb [a trick with the Fook Sao is very useful in this way]. I don't favor armbars necessarily [though they can work]. Instead, stay calm and bait them. There are also certain points which, if struck, will [in most cases] cause the attacker to drop the knife and lose mobility and power in their forearm and grip. The key is to accept the situation and remain calm. Tension slows response. Understanding lines of force is important as well. They can flail as you show but it does little if one knows how to approach.
    Nevertheless, I agree with many points. I hope no one has to face a knife. But it's worth training in the off chance it happens.
    Great channel. I'm glad you show a conscientious and intelligent approach to these topics. Honesty is more valuable than ego. God bless.

    • @davidwilliams4837
      @davidwilliams4837 4 года назад

      @Ryan Sauter
      I think part of it is Jason doesn't want people having a false sense of invulnerability even though they have trained. We can only maximize our odds, but we shouldn't take chances. Tough balance as a teacher to navigate.

    • @davidwilliams4837
      @davidwilliams4837 4 года назад

      @Ryan Sauter
      It's easy to hurt someone; the mark of a martial artist is control of self and force. We should master ourselves rather than others. It sounds like you are blessed and in good hands. It's wonderful hearing this as so many are arrogant rather than caring and selfless. Great to hear from you! Live up to what Jason teaches; hold yourself to the code and standard we all strive to attain! Be safe and God bless.

    • @hiddenpathwingchun5045
      @hiddenpathwingchun5045 4 года назад

      @Ryan Sauter
      I meant to answer with this account rather than my personal account. Sorry if it was confusing.

  • @paolosmaldone8347
    @paolosmaldone8347 4 года назад +1

    very good!BTW you draw your knife very swiftly...are you sure not of Italian heritage?

  • @beccawilkes9633
    @beccawilkes9633 4 года назад +2

    Knife fights happen so quick often enough you're already being stabbed when it happens and you need to know how to take down and restrain a person, you often don't have time to turn and run and that's dangerous in itself. Teaching people to just never grapple is going to get people ground and pounded, which is the most common thing in a street fight. You're going to get people killed and hurt by teaching Jeet Kune Do without teaching WHAT WORKS on the ground and in this situation

    • @JKDandWingChun
      @JKDandWingChun  4 года назад +1

      Love how you disagree with so many of our videos yet keep watching. I’ll let the viewers draw their conclusions about your intellect and character from there. Second, your “rebuttal” as always simply ignores the content of the video. We don’t teach going empty against a blade because WE CARRY BLADES and are taught how (as evidenced by the situation i relate from actual security work I did) how to recognize trouble and thereby avoid, escape or fight with our neutralizer.
      Furthermore, have some honor since we’re talking about life or death. I admitted that when working against a live partner armed with a magic marker (and safety equipment!) I have very limited success with disarms and am often covered in colorful cuts. That’s why I teach other options. It’s called integrity.
      Grappling against a knife when other options are available is the height of folly and suicidal pride. Knives aren’t toys and you will get cut, which means, by our definition, the disarm failed.
      1. Avoid
      2. Escape
      3. Use a barrier
      4. Equalize with your weapon
      5. Fight bare handed if all else failed and death is imminent.
      Thanks for commenting because it helps our viewers see the ignorance that’s out there on this subject as you suggest people ignore steps 1-4 because you think #5 is so easy.
      Best wishes to you and thank you for helping educate our viewers in reverse. 🙏

    • @HamannGeorg
      @HamannGeorg 4 года назад

      @@JKDandWingChun Hi, a agree with what you said to an extent. If possible avoid. But there are situations where this is impossible. The son of a friend of mine is a jewish lawyer. A palestine on prison exit waited at a certain place and symbolic statue to attack him. He was intent on murdering a jew. This is not a situation you can run form. He was staped multiple times, but managed to put his attacker down, knock him out and call the cops. This was the only possiblity to survive this. So hopefully you teach your students well because there is not always an easy way out and this crapy knife disarm might be your only chance.

    • @JKDandWingChun
      @JKDandWingChun  4 года назад

      Georg Hamann I completely understand what you’re saying. We must remember a few critical points from the incident you relate, however.
      First, your friend was, most unfortunately, still stabbed multiple times. That’s life altering and actually proves my point.
      Second, I clearly state in the video that you would only fight a knife bare handed, logically, when the other options are for whatever reason, off the table and death is imminent. The story you relate is consistent with that principle.
      Finally, since disarms are rarely ever “clean” (that is, done without great injury) the other options should be trained far more than the last resort. This is precisely why we put so much emphasis on avoidance, escape and then, finally, armed resistance.
      Great input. Thanks so much for your respectful and thoughtful reply.

  • @reynaldovergara6336
    @reynaldovergara6336 2 года назад

    Good advice I have heard the marker thing and believe in it it literally is like taking a permanent marker away from a kid you're gonna get ink on you

  • @CaveMan72
    @CaveMan72 4 года назад

    I only engage a knife if I'm carrying my sword cane. The element of surprise is the big factpr in that scenerio. There's no way to avoid a cut or a puncture if you're empty handed.

  • @directfighter225
    @directfighter225 4 года назад

    if you can find an equalizer. but good advice.

  • @johndrake5467
    @johndrake5467 4 года назад

    That's a nice blade. What's the make and model?

  • @williambarnes3054
    @williambarnes3054 4 года назад

    ThNk you Shifu Jasen.
    My first self defense coach in the 90s that the same thing. If you're not a trained military an amateur or professional athlete at the same time it's definitely suicide.

  • @rockdirty2228
    @rockdirty2228 4 года назад +2

    Don't bring your flesh to a knife fight.

  • @angelouasuncion9168
    @angelouasuncion9168 4 года назад +1

    Good day sir, Im from Philippines. We test different kinds of knife disarm a lot because we want to know what's gonna work and what is not, yeah your right about what you explain to this video. you really get cut no matter how much you practice it, especially if you're opponent is aggressive and persistent to kill you but it is also hard to find shield or some kind of tool to make the fight equal if someone in front of you that is stabbing and cutting you rapidly and aggresively. So in our test there is like a window or a glimpse of an opportunity that your attacker will expose his/her arm and thats the weakness that will become your opportunity to attack but not to disarm but to make a strike maybe a punch or a palm strike and then after that focus on the weapon and remember cover your neck because we experience a lot of neck thrust and slash when we try to reach the bladed arm. So my tip is to wait for the right timing if you had no chance of running or having also a weapon . Thank you sir and good luck🥋

    • @fishonado
      @fishonado 4 года назад +2

      I agree Manong/Kuya....I am a Filipino living in the US who has grown up in the hard neighborhoods of Chicago....of course a cut will happen....if you're near fire...you either feel the warmth or your hair will get singed....sometimes a situation happens when you have no idea a situation is happening......it is better to know what to do in a bad situation than not to know what to do when it happens....the part of our martial arts is that any thing can be used as a force multiplier to create space....we've been doing this for a couple thousand years.

    • @santiagoabalos7564
      @santiagoabalos7564 3 года назад

      Kumuesta Manang ... Just a simple question, do you practice escrima/kali?

    • @santiagoabalos7564
      @santiagoabalos7564 3 года назад

      @@fishonado Chicago ... Yeah I can relate Kabayan. I have family that still lives there. I also frequent the East Bay Area (Oakland and Berserkley) SF (Hunters Point) and the South Bay a lot when I was younger and I use to live in Detroit. You never know what may transpire, but your training will be second nature as you learn to "read the street" and when trouble presents itself ... Bahala Na!

  • @joshuacreel9668
    @joshuacreel9668 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for your video someone pulled a knife on me the other night as I was walking home and I I just walked away use your head and living

  • @talentedatviolence856
    @talentedatviolence856 4 года назад

    Cold steel spartan have the same one Great knife

  • @jonsmith20766
    @jonsmith20766 2 года назад

    Something hitting a knife ( Cardboard, part of a human body) is the same as a knife hitting aforementioned things. Smh.

  • @christopherdineen2331
    @christopherdineen2331 4 года назад

    What if your back is to the wall and you have no choice because there are some hateful people out there that just want to hurt other people. but still good advice that's what my 5 element wing chun instructor told me 8 years ago he pulls a knife run away if you can 👍💪👊

  • @76kamikazi
    @76kamikazi 4 года назад +1

    If you cant get away wish should be technique number one, be creative grab your shirt, shoes, belt anything on your person to use to distract long enough for you to run,always think of running with a knife. These knife against knife demonstrations you see all these instructors do on RUclips is BS.There are no winners in a knife versus knife fight on the street both of you will most likely end up bleeding to death.

  • @chipstastesupergood3788
    @chipstastesupergood3788 3 года назад

    I have a excellent disarming move for someone with a knife glock19

    • @TexasHoosier3118
      @TexasHoosier3118 8 месяцев назад

      Yeah, well not everybody has access to a firearm.

  • @benjaminpujols1914
    @benjaminpujols1914 4 года назад

    You're sometimes you're kind of cornered and don't have a choice you are obviously a fast thinker in a situation like that honestly I would hope that I can do the same thing you did but who's to say depending on my mental mood at the time and all that but yes anybody who has a weapon of any kind is dangerous I mean a person is dangerous by themselves let alone with a weapon so unless you have no choice like you said don't engage just make up an excuse or something and walk away or runaway or act. You know like you don't really understand what's going on say hi and bye and just leave or whatever but yeah I'm at much rather just be home watching TV resting instead of engaging in some sort of death-defying battle

  • @TexasHoosier3118
    @TexasHoosier3118 8 месяцев назад

    OK, so just give up and do nothing. Got it.

  • @asherandai2633
    @asherandai2633 Год назад

    I'm not sure I fully understand your story. You were security, charged with... Keeping dangerous criminals stuff? Their beds? Them? It's not clear what your purpose there was. And one of them who was going around killing or maiming people confronted you. So you let him go? Knowing he would go out and hurt and/or kill more people. You who was in charge of... something to do with them... and trained(?) in combat with plenty of your own weapons close around you, you chose to let him go. And you didn't care enough to even find out if he was caught or got away and hurt more people. That's just disgusting.
    I could understand if you were just some random unarmed passer by with no high level combat training and no charge regarding the individual (again, unclear exactly wtf you were supposed to be doing), but you weren't. You were literally the opposite of all that, and you chose to knowingly unleash him on an unsuspecting public not capable of defending themselves. Maybe you didn't have any legal obligation, but you certainly had a strong moral one that you were happy to ignore.
    I've had knives pulled on me three times, and been stabbed once. Two of those were instantaneous situations in which I barely had time to react (one I didn't react fast enough and resulted in my stabbing), the 3rd and most recent one though was also at my place of work. I could have chose to back off and run away, but that would have meant at least one other person would have been attacked and I could not live with myself knowingly endangering others for my own sake if they got killed. So I did not back off. I also don't have any martial arts training (unless you count a few lessons as a kid) or any weapons readily to hand. I kept his attention on me, stayed calm, and waited for a clear opportunity to remove the knife threat. Got punched in the face and ribs a bunch, but that was fine. Better than it could have been, and I knew the risk and took it willingly.
    First video of yours I've watched, and I know you and your fans won't care about what I say and will dismiss me, but honestly from my experience it doesn't sound like you give very good advice. Run away from a gun? Unless you've got immediate cover that's the worst thing I can imagine anyone doing. That's literally asking to get shot.

  • @gematriot
    @gematriot 4 года назад +1

    Fake cardboard!!!! :)

    • @JKDandWingChun
      @JKDandWingChun  4 года назад +3

      Joao E. Nascimento 🤣. The real stuff is too expensive.