The Biggest Mistake Wing Chun Fighters Make

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2024

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  • @mikeruddell6091
    @mikeruddell6091 4 года назад +4

    Excellent information. I spend at least 3 years in a Wing Chun school doing exactly what you are warning us about. Thank you very much for this lesson.

  • @cthulhuminion
    @cthulhuminion 3 года назад +3

    I absolutely love this channel and Sifu Jason. I think this is the best most down to earth instruction people can get... people should have to pay for this instruction. There’s no BS here. I send people to this channel every chance I get!

  • @LordReginaldMeowmont
    @LordReginaldMeowmont 5 лет назад +9

    I was taught a far less traditional Wing Chun, and they incorporated stuff from other arts like Hsing I and Bagua. The biggest mistake I see in most Wing Chun is fighters would rather spend time trying control the opponent's hands than just get off the line of attack. All of the touch drills are meant for a split second to get the advantage and destroy the opponent.

  • @mr.mckinnon5680
    @mr.mckinnon5680 5 лет назад +7

    If the first rule of martial arts is, don't be where the punch goes. Then you could effectively say, the biggest mistake in Wing Chun is the same mistake made in every form of martial arts. And that is... being where the punch lands. The second biggest mistake that is made by all forms of martial arts is the thinking. Most people who practice martial arts, will most likely use this or that to fight for sport. Or entertainment. When you realize that your enemy is not attacking you so that they can make you a cake. Then one can assert that the biggest mistake that you can make in any form of martial arts is that, you are not fighting for your life. Because there's a big difference between knocking your enemy down, and letting him get up again. And taking that individual out permanently. It is literally Straight Out of The Art of War. The 700 year old Chinese text on warfare. You fight to win. You fight to live. And you never, ever, let your enemy retreat regroup and come back stronger than before. If you're not fighting for your life. You're exercising. Hand to hand combat is exactly that. Combat. And in combat, we aren't rolling around in our underwear trying to stick our fingers in each other's butt. And if you want to know who the winner is, in a combat situation. It's easy. He's the one still breathing.

    • @ohshipman
      @ohshipman 5 лет назад

      Loads of jumbo.

    • @mr.mckinnon5680
      @mr.mckinnon5680 5 лет назад

      @@ohshipman ... would you care to elaborate? I'm a former combat Soldier. With experience in hand-to-hand combat, on the battlefield. Explain to me, how I'm wrong.

    • @ohshipman
      @ohshipman 5 лет назад

      First, voiding in a fight is good and more people should understand it, but depending solely on it is a real mistake, parrying and advancing gives you a better chance against someone who has a longer reach than you. Then you can use some dodging and attack technique on them, but surrendering ground alone and saying that is the best thing to do is a stretch to say the least.
      Sun Tzu did not said that. He said to win everything is worth doing, but to destroy your enemy totally is a mistake, if you do so, he will probably hate you and your conquest will be worthless. If you can not fight to win, how can you jump to fight to live? The logic does not add up, you need the first to achieve the second. Sun Tzu is also much older than 700 years, much, much older.
      You either lied about understanding Sun Tzu or did not understood him so you are probably lying about being a combat soldier as well, or you should just put more enphasis on the "former". Hard combat elites knew throughout the ages as they know nowadays that you need competition and sparring before you can truly defend yourself in a life or death situation against another fighter.
      As I have pointed out. Loads of Jumbo.

    • @mr.mckinnon5680
      @mr.mckinnon5680 4 года назад

      @@ohshipman ... if you have destroyed your enemy completely, who is left to hate you? And thank you for calling me a liar. Because that implies that I want something from you. And then I have time, to manipulate my speech in order to try and extract something from your intelligence. I'm not an advertising executive. And I don't give a fuk about you.

  • @johnluongo4230
    @johnluongo4230 5 лет назад +2

    Hands up. Very practical approach as always. Keep up the good work.

  • @dudemannxs
    @dudemannxs 4 года назад

    I love your logic, and analogies. 'It don't work if it only works in Wing Chun'. So true and so real.

  • @paolosmaldone9856
    @paolosmaldone9856 5 лет назад +12

    True!its like in boxing:you dont move like in jumping rope or throw punches as on speed bag;those are drill for specific pourposes.

  • @nuddlegg
    @nuddlegg 5 лет назад +6

    As Rene Latosa said on a seminar (rephrased): "Patterns are just that: patterns. However you need to explore and weaponize them."

  • @johnouellet4099
    @johnouellet4099 5 лет назад +8

    I've been saying this for years.
    Thanks.

  • @alangrobler1562
    @alangrobler1562 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this information it help my a lot in training

  • @HPLNTV
    @HPLNTV 5 лет назад +6

    Great video! I was first surprised when my teacher started my Wing Chun training with western boxing, but then I understood the value. And yes, my finger did a decent job clicking Like button.

    • @HPLNTV
      @HPLNTV 5 лет назад +5

      @David Mack because my goal was Wing Chun, not boxing. My teacher included western boxing to make sure I know how to fight against it, not just against another Wing Chun practitioner. Besides, 95% of people on the street will attack with boxing punch.

    • @HPLNTV
      @HPLNTV 5 лет назад +3

      @David Mack I agree! And that's what this video is about.

  • @jetmann1362
    @jetmann1362 5 лет назад +5

    Whole lot of good info on this video. Especially for WC people.

  • @rayrobmog
    @rayrobmog 5 лет назад +3

    All Chunners should be listening to your excellent and practical advice...
    Cheers Dublin Ireland...

  • @BlueFang714
    @BlueFang714 5 лет назад +11

    You have people take more of a posture like Bak Mei which is interesting.
    Personally, where I see people make mistakes the most in Wing Chun is not valuing positioning and footwork, and trying to deflect or block everything instead of getting out of the way, covering, and closing the gap.
    Also a lot of lack of understanding of biomechanics for power. Doesn't matter much if you hit them if it's mostly just a poke.
    Just my personal opinion based on my experience.

    • @kevinhayden9030
      @kevinhayden9030 5 лет назад +1

      BlueFang714 Exactly.

    • @travisberthold1825
      @travisberthold1825 4 года назад

      Bak Mei is dangerous, make no mistake...Wing Chun was created for the sole purpose of destroying practitioners of Bak Mei as the vast majority of the Northern Manchurian army consisted of Bak Mei rogues.

    • @aidenfisher5679
      @aidenfisher5679 Год назад

      @@travisberthold1825 not true. Source of ur history??

    • @aardvarkhendricks6555
      @aardvarkhendricks6555 Год назад

      @@aidenfisher5679 He won't respond because it's not true.

  • @dhiruparmar8908
    @dhiruparmar8908 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you. Perfect explanation on how to train in todays time and think.
    99% of the well known wing chun instructors out there are still training their students training methods that they were taught from ip mans time. They have not evolved to todays time of fighting. In fact they have stopped learning so will find it hard to cope with todays aggressive fighting attacks with their old training drills. Wing chun is a Thinking Persons Art.

  • @armaankhokhar7651
    @armaankhokhar7651 5 лет назад +2

    Great video 👍🏽

  • @robmudd9753
    @robmudd9753 4 года назад

    Excellent advice

  • @Andrew_JKD
    @Andrew_JKD 4 года назад

    Very good explanation!!!

  • @jonathonrwills1825
    @jonathonrwills1825 4 года назад

    Yeah, perfect mindset, I totally agree with the "working/practical" concepts and "good better best" valuation in training thanks!

  • @justoldog
    @justoldog 5 лет назад +7

    Wing chun works best when: You are very close- you are constantly moving forward- your hands and arms are hardened/conditioned - you surprise the attacker.

    • @semipropaid1928
      @semipropaid1928 5 лет назад

      @Silent Psykosis do you not think that people can adapt to getting check hooked? ( just asking cause I tried studying this while I trained bjj and boxing)

    • @thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486
      @thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486 5 лет назад

      @Silent Psykosis depends. If the guy knows how to fight and use wc. Then there's a difference.

    • @thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486
      @thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486 5 лет назад

      @Silent Psykosis I see. Hmmm.

    • @Thongsai
      @Thongsai 5 лет назад

      Smh the problem with Wing Chun practitioners is they believe the straight line moving forward snappy arm punches is going to stop trained fighters. Wrong that’s just reckless teeps and lateral movement will destroy you right in your tracks.

    • @Thongsai
      @Thongsai 5 лет назад

      @MrAkaalis besides the hollywood fantasy/ action. Ip man movies . I don't see Wing Chun having a good future. There way behind. Muay Thai, Mma, Boxing. And Lethwei They're advancing fighters keep getting stronger . While Wing Chunners are still arguing over lineages and who's Chi Sao is better.

  • @dirtyolbag
    @dirtyolbag 4 года назад

    Good points.
    Tactical Reality is what I call it. Many confrontations don’t conform to any one style and a street fighter has 3 to 5 techniques that allow them the advantage in a street fight and ultimately a KO or at least a TKO. A feign jab with a quick cross will normally take someone out unless they have plenty of time sparring for example.
    I like this guy’s (Sifu’s) methodology.

  • @mr.mckinnon5680
    @mr.mckinnon5680 5 лет назад +24

    "Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face."
    Mike Tyson

    • @mr.mckinnon5680
      @mr.mckinnon5680 5 лет назад +1

      @Motor City Cobra ... I don't know who that is. But I once watched my friend throw six cops out of a window. Serving a search warrant, looking for someone else. They weren't expecting a jiu jitsu Master on the other side of that door. They were convinced, they had a plan. Plan B... Having to be ... bean bags. And now he's serving life in prison.

    • @mr.mckinnon5680
      @mr.mckinnon5680 5 лет назад

      @Motor City Cobra ... Still an accurate quote.

  • @kjvenom8508
    @kjvenom8508 5 лет назад +3

    It's a energy drill bong lap the techniques are secondary it's the understanding of energy that's why it's called a energy drill my friend I totally agree with what your saying my respects from Sifu to Sifu from across the Water keep
    Up
    The great work my respects 🙏😊

  • @harrisfrankou2368
    @harrisfrankou2368 5 лет назад +3

    Taking it up would be at the top of the list 😁

  • @britreed8038
    @britreed8038 4 года назад +1

    absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. -- Bruce Lee

  • @vhonjoe8843
    @vhonjoe8843 4 года назад

    i'm currently learning wingchun, some how what your saying is correct, nice advice, keep on uploading videos

  • @duchi882
    @duchi882 5 лет назад +9

    The thing I hate about your channel
    is it doesn't have enough subs

    • @JKDandWingChun
      @JKDandWingChun  5 лет назад +3

      Duchi well, we certainly appreciate that. 🙏

  • @badgejohnson5596
    @badgejohnson5596 5 лет назад +1

    The biggest mistake is static defense, non-resisting opponents, static footwork, and more than one punch per one punch of the opponent. You get at most two punches. Wear headgear and 4 oz. gloves and let them hit back.

  • @moonlion7047
    @moonlion7047 4 года назад

    That re washing thing hit home hard. You are right, I took no chances and hit like.

  • @COMB0RICO
    @COMB0RICO 4 года назад

    Thanks from Texas

  • @COMB0RICO
    @COMB0RICO 5 лет назад +1

    Interesting. Thanks from Texas.

  • @encara1
    @encara1 5 лет назад

    Please explain more on this.

  • @leonpse
    @leonpse 3 года назад

    It's like a basketball player doing layup or free throw drills. He's not going to do a layup if there's a center there blocking his way or try to shoot a free throw style shot if there's someone guarding him.

  • @Jrock4ABS
    @Jrock4ABS 4 года назад

    Amen brother I am Sifu Julian Sawyer so many have never been in a real fight I teach combat strategy of Wing Chun creating reaction fighting on the blind side and other important fighting stradegie

  • @jamesbond4633
    @jamesbond4633 5 лет назад

    Ha..love that Pierre Burton is right at the end. A great Canadian. He had an amazing interview with Bruce Lee when he was in Hong Kong. I think it was shortly before his death. Very revealing interview if you have never seen it.

  • @danoesq2
    @danoesq2 5 лет назад +3

    I totally agree, that's why I stopped paying my Sifu $100 a month.

  • @ayyubbhikoo8993
    @ayyubbhikoo8993 5 лет назад +2

    excellent.Like Karate, Wing Chun needs to be adjusted.Likewise Akido.Combat and fighting has changed so much over the years.Excellent video.

  • @sanekabc
    @sanekabc 5 лет назад +2

    Dude, no link to your website. I'm too lazy to type in the characters.

    • @johnchalinder6682
      @johnchalinder6682 5 лет назад +2

      Sounds like a personal problem, to me...
      ...you weren't too lazy to type in your reply; which is longer than the website addy...

  • @michaelblack5030
    @michaelblack5030 5 лет назад +1

    You sell the hit first shirt?

    • @JKDandWingChun
      @JKDandWingChun  5 лет назад

      Michael Black we will get that one online soon. Sorry. If you want, go to our website and drop us an email with your address and shirt size. If you’re in the U.S. I’ll see what I can do about getting you one.
      😎. Our way of saying thanks for watching.

  • @integratedfightingarts
    @integratedfightingarts 5 лет назад +2

    A lot of that lack of reality can easily be remedied by sparring regularly. Lightly, of course. Most people don't learn much by being beaten on.

  • @mellowman1020
    @mellowman1020 5 лет назад +7

    biggest mistake would be not choosing boxing instead

    • @lostmagicdude888
      @lostmagicdude888 5 лет назад

      Watch Tony Ferguson. I agree and thumbs up the comment and this old guy is cringey as fuck with the hand speed but there is some good to take from everything...

  • @encara1
    @encara1 5 лет назад

    Thank you..ply expand on this I took 3 months in Chicago. And now years later I am our west in Re no looking for a Wing Chun School but this is the second time I heard what you are explaining. The closest place is Sacramento Cali 2 hours away ,but this issue needs to be address in depth before I continue. Thank you so much 👍!!

    • @encara1
      @encara1 5 лет назад

      For give my typos ..I was writing too fast.

    • @integratedfightingarts
      @integratedfightingarts 5 лет назад

      I trained in Chicago too. Who was your instructor?

  • @ohshipman
    @ohshipman 5 лет назад

    I don't know why some people are criticising you. Wing chun is not my thing but your idea is solid. Even if you are not 100% correct, it's prettty clear you are on the right path. Time will tell, and even if there is something missing I am pretty sure you will find it.

    • @JKDandWingChun
      @JKDandWingChun  5 лет назад

      Ohship former sip thanks for the input and support.
      I think the main reason people people are being flippant (the critics, that is) is because they’re making the mistake of thinking a self-defense fight is gonna be exactly like an mma or boxing match. They won’t. A good many MMA fighters have been in street altercations and have admitted they weren’t the same thing.
      That said, Wing Chun is designed for a sudden encounter, not a match. That’s a significant difference that critics are unwilling to consider. My 4x4 truck isn’t a race car but I don’t need my truck to race on a track. It’s like that.
      Anyway, it’s folks like you we hope to reach - to educate and encourage - out there, so thanks for checking in.
      🙏

  • @reidforth8956
    @reidforth8956 5 лет назад

    Jason,
    Does your website have examples of JKD fight tactics or training drills that would support the fight tactics of your style? Curious about how to transition from tools to combat application. Thanks!

    • @i-evi-l
      @i-evi-l 5 лет назад

      Friendly spar drills just like any other system

  • @jonathonrwills1825
    @jonathonrwills1825 4 года назад +2

    "JAMMING TECHNIQUES" looking forward to that lession... : )

  • @ronin7798
    @ronin7798 4 года назад

    5:01 Yeah you CAN use a bong sau against it LOL. At least you can with the wing chun i've learned. I've pressure tested and sparred against some of my frriends (most of whom box), and i personally in my own experience found that Bong sau and Tan Sau actually work great against a straight punch. You turn with the bong to redirect it and step in to counter, and you can use Tan Sau to get into the outside gate. It's honestly not that hard. But your method works too :)

  • @johnmarlon6916
    @johnmarlon6916 5 лет назад +1

    I forget to press like and it played on infinite loop.

  • @dizdeck357
    @dizdeck357 5 лет назад +1

    Wing chun is already complete and combat applicable.

    • @i-evi-l
      @i-evi-l 5 лет назад +1

      No it's not complete because of zero ground game. It's pretty okay for stand-up but even then it is still lacking.

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад +1

      @@i-evi-l then you too misunderstand the nature of the system my friend 😎

    • @i-evi-l
      @i-evi-l 5 лет назад

      @@dizdeck357 Hardly. If I relied solely on WC then I'd get my ass beat on the ground. As it stands that's not a problem from using Boxing, wrestling and WC. WC complements boxing well, and anyone can get taken to the ground.

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад +3

      @@i-evi-l wing Chun compliments any other martial art. That's the power of it. Wing chun doesn't teach you technique, it teaches kung fu. And maybe YOU would get your ass beat on the ground, and maybe YOU would get your ass beat standing up too🤣

  • @jakehamburdoodle3042
    @jakehamburdoodle3042 5 лет назад

    I typed out this huge comment of my opinions, questions, etc. but then I realized nobody really wants to read all that so I’m just gonna make it short and sweet. I’m not a wing Chun practitioner so please inform me on what your meaning, are you saying that the drills you mentioned such as chi sau are basically pointless? Great video as always

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад

      Wing chun doesn't have "drills" to mechanicalif you're calling it a drill

    • @jakehamburdoodle3042
      @jakehamburdoodle3042 5 лет назад

      diz deck so what are you saying. Maybe I used the wrong word. But still help me understand

  • @Aniontedone
    @Aniontedone 4 года назад

    Amen!!!!!

  • @kjvenom8508
    @kjvenom8508 5 лет назад

    Ps that Man Sau guard is terrible I never use it isn't practical at all maybe against other WCK but we spar with many different systems if you don't leave your comfort Zone you never grow that's why training in a pressurised environment is Key to increase your skill set my respects great film 🙏😊

  • @SweSpartan
    @SweSpartan 5 лет назад

    Would you as a wing chun martial artist invite a martial artist with equal experirience in a stand up sparring match and post it?
    The old way is a better way to see what works and what not does.

  • @danielcooke3800
    @danielcooke3800 5 лет назад +1

    Have u practiced wing chun?

  • @starshipdjs7524
    @starshipdjs7524 5 лет назад +1

    IMHO If the Wing Chun foundation concepts are not fully understood by the student, then everything becomes looking like imitations and the student suffers the consequences.
    Therfore don't try to imitate Wing Wing Chun, rather become Wing Chun.

    • @sergiobatista2272
      @sergiobatista2272 4 года назад +1

      Well said! Most wing Chun guys we see on RUclips are just clowns...not real wing Chun practitioners.

    • @starshipdjs7524
      @starshipdjs7524 4 года назад +1

      @@sergiobatista2272 Anderson Silva & Tony Ferguson both used elements of Wing Chun that worked in the short run but was easily neutralize due to being used out of context in UFC and their opponent's were properly prepared to overcome them with the right preparation and training.
      However McGregor's Wing Chun (close range) shoulder strikes against "Cowboy" worked perfectly well as the element of surprise was a success was due to never being trained against such a technique for most professional fighters or opponents, yet on the streets a shoulder stike is very common.
      As Bruce Lee said "...to train every bit of your body..." this includes shoulder strikes.
      With Wing Chun being a part of Sun Tzu's strategy ... is to enter a fight only when you are sure of winning... where it is a bit late to back out when entering the cage, thefore Wing Chun doesn't belong in UFC as the option to walk away doesn't exist IMHO

  • @mancingkehidupan7926
    @mancingkehidupan7926 4 года назад

    Wing chun can be efective if the opponent just silent like a wood..

  • @jezwarren-clarke2471
    @jezwarren-clarke2471 5 лет назад +2

    Why on earth would you a drill in a martial art/combat sport that is not fight transferable???

    • @integratedfightingarts
      @integratedfightingarts 5 лет назад

      The same reason you don't go into a gun fight without training. You spend a lot of time working on your stance, aim and technique in shooting, but a static target, perfect stance and pre-drawn gun aren't combat realities.

  • @danielcooke3800
    @danielcooke3800 5 лет назад

    My guess is no....wing chun is also about counter strikes and striking at the exact moment the attacker throws the 👊.

  • @alichekbigi
    @alichekbigi 5 лет назад +6

    biggest mistake WC fighters make is practicing WC

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane 5 лет назад +1

    I feel the best thing a Wing Chun practitioner could do is do some training with people who have other martial arts backgrounds. The varied the better. You don't have to use what other fighters use, but you do need to know what they can do in order to be ready for it. A comment on that right overhand/cross you were talking about. I happened upon a very old championship boxing match from the early days of modern boxing. I can't remember the names, but the new champion used that punch to face plant the old. It was beautiful. I found it:
    ruclips.net/video/XUDIXdef9rU/видео.html

    • @tufftony6604
      @tufftony6604 5 лет назад +1

      Like Bruce did

    • @madjidchouarbi3921
      @madjidchouarbi3921 5 лет назад

      Docinaplane You're right. Most martial arts only train to repond against their own style : Judo vs Judo, Karate vs Karate etc... That's because in old times, you couldn't find sparring partners from over background, and , of course, your school was supposed to be the best possible. However, a serious style is designed to makes you able to dominate agressors from other schools. That's why spying was SO important in ancient times ! Masters used to spy other school to copy their best techniques or to find how to counter them.

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane 5 лет назад

      @@madjidchouarbi3921 When I fought in open tournaments back in the day, we would all watch what other fighters were doing, and if their techniques seemed to be good ones, we would incorporate them into our skill sets. Now we have RUclips :-)

  • @danielcooke3800
    @danielcooke3800 5 лет назад +4

    To gain muscle memory u need years of practice

    • @BakkerSamuel
      @BakkerSamuel 5 лет назад

      A muscle doesnt have memory...

    • @danielcooke3800
      @danielcooke3800 5 лет назад

      No a brain does...85% training is the mind 15% is physical

    • @danielcooke3800
      @danielcooke3800 5 лет назад +1

      So technically the most important muscle does have memory...the brain and that is a muscle

    • @danielcooke3800
      @danielcooke3800 5 лет назад +1

      Stop being closed minded

  • @andrewhuckerby8265
    @andrewhuckerby8265 5 лет назад +1

    The most astute and relevant presentation on parrying real life punch attacks on youtube. Watch this and wake up and smell the coffee the rest of you so called martial artists. No point teaching or learning something that won't work. Thanks once again Sifu.

  • @armaankhokhar7651
    @armaankhokhar7651 5 лет назад +3

    Hi Sifu Jason, I’ve been watching your channel recently and must say I really like it, I think your content is great and really original. It’s helped someone like me, who has never practised, develop a deeper appreciation for the wing chun system.
    *ALSO*, I would really love to know you’re opinion on Roberto Duran. He’s a great boxer and a notorious infighter. I think there’s a lot of cross over between the techniques used in wing chun and the techniques he uses when fighting on the inside. This is became especially apparent to me after watching your wing chun applications series.
    If you’re not familiar with him, may you please check out this 6 minute video on his infighting:
    ruclips.net/video/IKfoBlhrCZw/видео.html

  • @philosopher0076
    @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +2

    Even these blocks you are showing as a " better " way to deflect/block/stop that looping type straightish jab/hook...will not work in reality. Imagine a strong, powerful guy throwing one of those like a Mike Tyson would. The punch will blast right through that arm block your student is doing on you in this video. You would get clocked in the face and that might be it for you. If you are going to use such a chun-sao type arm block, the way to make it more functional is to pivot 90 degrees and block into the guy's INNER forearm at that 90 degree angle. So your body will be facing his inner forearm straight on. And when you pivot and block, you simultaneously throw your punch to his nose with your other hand. Now, another excellent defense against such a punch is a boxing head movement notably a slip or very slight bob to left OR right....doesn't matter because the punch is aiming for center...your face...so a slight bob to the left OR right, will cause the punch to miss. As you bob or slip, you are also launching an attacking punch to his now opened gate. Anyhow, good luck. FYI.

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад

      David Mack. There are guys in the street, criminals who've been in prison half their lives or more, who hit like Tyson and almost like Tyson. But no matter, even 75% of a Tyson punch would blow through the WC defense arm your student is using on you here. But guess what....using that WC arm/block/deflection...the way I described it, pivoting to face the opponent with your body, works, even against a Tyson looping jab....because you face the strongest position and stance, against the most vulnerable and weak position and angle of that attack punch. And yes, agreed WC used (as your student used it)....the standard way....is weak against longer distance attacks and long boxing punches coming in at odd angles. So then why are you using it ( having your student show it, perform it) as a defense to such a punch, in this video?

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +1

      David Mack. I asked you a question. So what is bullshit...?

    • @stanleymyrick4068
      @stanleymyrick4068 4 года назад

      @@philosopher0076 Dude, that pivot block might work versus a strong slower punch, but faster guys that can punch three times to Tysons one and have a significant amount of power with it, will wonder what you were attempting as you pivoted into the next punch and are now on the ground. The quick head bob is better and anything that helps direct the punch away, even slightly might be enough. Footwork and pivots when you can sure. Anything that helps.

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 4 года назад

      Stanley Myrick I said the head bob is good to do..so I don't why you even posted insofar as that goes. And as for the " faster guys" punching 3 times to Tysdon's one....doubtful as Tyson was EXTREMELY fast....not just fast for a hw...but in general. But even if the 3 to 1 scenario was true as example, Tyson would be countering simltaneous and hitting. Therefore he would smash the guy. Further, stepping in as he punched....Tyson would very likely be avoiding any 2nd or 3rd fast punch.

  • @thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486
    @thebuddhaofknowledgemichae2486 5 лет назад +1

    Respectfully Sifu. You have the right opinion of the art. You are missing the point of the art. You finding to many faults instead seeing the lethality of it.

  • @cjdvingtsun
    @cjdvingtsun 5 лет назад

    None of these problems are because the teacher doesn’t know or the student doesn’t get it. Its our society even in America. The government has conditioned people to think they are safe and protected by the government. Imagine if murder was legal. How would you train in your school? Like you do know or like your life depended on it?

  • @alfiebrown7499
    @alfiebrown7499 5 лет назад +2

    You don’t realise understand the core concepts of Wing Chun my friend, hence the confusion.

    • @integratedfightingarts
      @integratedfightingarts 5 лет назад

      I respectfully you go fight or spar someone who doesn't do wing chun. Bet you dollars to donuts that your theories don't hold up perfectly and you have to adapt.

    • @i-evi-l
      @i-evi-l 5 лет назад

      Wtf. Everything he just demonstrated is right in line with WC practice when it comes to setting up parries.

  • @vuquanghuy4584
    @vuquanghuy4584 3 года назад

    biggest mistake is they learn wing chun in the first place

  • @SThrillz
    @SThrillz 4 года назад

    If you are learning any martial arts and not sparring then you are not really learning for real life situations and that's the problem. A lot of people learn martial arts with never ever actually fighting. Wing Chun for instance has a lot of base principles that make a lot of sense and are simple and efficient but a lot of martial times fighting is never really part of the learning process and learning to fight and fighting are completely different. It's like how you go to school and then get a job and realize that you actually know nothing 😂

  • @adami2140
    @adami2140 5 лет назад

    Wing chun is a concept art, until the concepts are able to be understood it is almost worthless. If the concepts can be understood then they have to be applied, this once again is very hard. So out of 1000 people who actually learn 'proper' wing chun maybe only one of those people will be able to defend themselves against trained fighters, and that is also if they are a fighter inside. Wing chun is the hardest martial art to learn and the hardest to apply as a system. I like Wing Chun though.

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад

      In the contrary, wing Chun is a simple system. It had profound depth. And because its conceptual, people misunderstand it a lot. In my opinion. Its superior to everything. The problem is like you said. Most people suck at it and dont understand it. Out of 1000 people maybe 1 or 2 will understand it

    • @bio1220
      @bio1220 5 лет назад

      @@dizdeck357 yeah very few people can fight with it

  • @maximillionroivas3893
    @maximillionroivas3893 5 лет назад +2

    I like WC. It's Excellent exercise for me. But I don't ever use any of its techniques in a actual fight. WC is just not effective. Maybe against someone who just stands there waiting to get hit. I rely on Boxing for stand up and if the fight goes to the ground (which about 80% of fights do) I rely on my BJJ and wrestling. Ain't nothing more satisfying than maneuvering some fool around into position and either make them scream like a bitch with an armbar or two or ground and pound their face in.

  • @miguel-lopera75
    @miguel-lopera75 5 лет назад +1

    Sifu Victor Gutierrez have been doing that for years. But he does much better than this.

    • @sergiobatista2272
      @sergiobatista2272 4 года назад +1

      And Emin Boztep...and Randy Williams...and so many others. Oh... And me as well 😊

  • @danielcooke3800
    @danielcooke3800 5 лет назад

    By the looks of it u have only seen wing chun in the movies

  • @crewie94
    @crewie94 3 года назад

    The biggest mistake is that they do Wing Chun.

  • @michaelspyrou1784
    @michaelspyrou1784 5 лет назад

    true but only part of the story.

  • @jetd6764
    @jetd6764 4 года назад

    The big mistake Wing Chun people make is that they don't trust their own system. If u afraid to get hit you will get hit. Wing Chun fight ting style is walking like a robot. It is boring and simple. If u a duck, u should walk like a duck. Wing Chun don't block. It is too slow too block. A boxer boxes when step into a gym. All he does is boxing. He punch a hundred times, a thousand times. Therefore his skill is more efficient than most Wing Chun pratictioners. Wing Chun focus on forms and especially Chi Sao. Is he using his Chi Sao in figting? When the fight starts; his stance is great...then he starts blocking, which is against Wing Chun concept. Then he a starts moving his head a way from the punch. His stance changes to a boxer or a kick boxer. He or start to move his hands up or down like a Tai Chi practictioner; looks cool and fancy. On top of that he starts to shuffle like a boxer. If u are a duck why don't u walk like a duck? U are a duck; but u try to fly like a butterfy. Wham in the face; he lost his stance, his belief in the system. I am not a Wing Chun practictioner, but I started to adopt the tecnique into my fighting style due to my old age. Wing Chun is a Good combat system if you practice it right and belief in the system. Chi Sao looks cool but it does not do u any good in real combat. Jame Sin Clair is one great Wing chun pratictioner in a UK. Center line, blocking is too slow, intercepting or hitting while blocking is some of the great concepts of Wing Chun. If u want wing chun into real combat, then ask, "What does a boxer do in the gym?" Sorry for my bad English. Hope this help some new comer who plan to try Wing Chun. Any style is good if u master its tools and concepts.

  • @robertrobertson8575
    @robertrobertson8575 5 лет назад +3

    Until you spar with a resisting opponent you have not prepared for a fight. Until wing chun starts training like a combat sport: boxing, muay thai, wrestling, bjj etc. it will be relegated to the world of theory. A guy boxing for a year will beat any wing chun guy who's done nothing but do drills and forms for 10 years.

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад +2

      So its apparent you never set foot in a wing chun school. Wing Chun has it's own set of training. There is sparring. It is just done witha different approach, but that isnt until way later until you have a pretty good understanding of the system. You dont need martial arts to fight.

    • @robertrobertson8575
      @robertrobertson8575 5 лет назад

      @@dizdeck357 If you think chi sao is anything like a real fight you're kidding yourself.

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад

      Chi sao isnt fighting and neither is sparring, bud.

    • @robertrobertson8575
      @robertrobertson8575 5 лет назад

      deck decks it's definitely not fighting the way you guys do it! That's why there's a hundred videos on RUclips of Wing Chun Masters losing all of their technique as soon as the pressure is on LOL! You wasted your time. Go join a Jiu-Jitsu gym

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад

      @@robertrobertson8575 haha..wing chun masters? Show me a video of a wing chun master??! Lol

  • @ab-dq6qq
    @ab-dq6qq 4 года назад

    Wing chun not good for street fight !? 🤔

  • @belkys120
    @belkys120 4 года назад +1

    WING CHUN , IS NOT A PERFECT ( MARTIAL ART ) .!!!!!! . DEPENDS ON THE TEACHER .? . THAT WHY , ( BRUCE LEE ) , CREATED HIS OWN MARTIAL ARTS , OF JKD .!!!!!! . AND HAS BECOME , VERY AFFECTIVE , DEFENDING ON THE TEACHER .? . STUDY : THE SYTEM U THINK 🤔 U ARE INTERESTING IN .? . 🙏🏾📚📖📚🙏🏾.....BEFORE , JOINING 😂👍.!!!!!! .

  • @Scorch1028
    @Scorch1028 5 лет назад

    The biggest mistake that Wing Chun fighters make is “accepting challenge matches against MMA fighters”. 😆

    • @flowingqi8735
      @flowingqi8735 3 года назад

      This comment is so dumb on many levels lol

  • @sanekabc
    @sanekabc 5 лет назад

    Ok, so I just went to your website and noticed you don't offer any ground game? Isn't that a huge hole in your curriculum?

    • @JKDandWingChun
      @JKDandWingChun  5 лет назад +3

      Testa facebook.com/BossGrappling/. That’s a link to our BJJ instructor’s Facebook page. We’re redoing our website over the next few months to include that as well as our online classes, etc. Either way, thanks for taking the time to check it out.

    • @sanekabc
      @sanekabc 5 лет назад

      @@JKDandWingChun As Bruce Lee once said, "Good luck getting me to the ground."

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +3

      Testa ..." Judo " Gene LeBell, Small Circle Jiu Jitsu creator Wally Jay and Pan American Judo champion 1964 and Olympic gold medalist Hayward Nishioka got Lee to the ground in an instant.

    • @sanekabc
      @sanekabc 5 лет назад

      @@philosopher0076 What nonsense do you speak? They were not fighting or sparring, just teaching Lee the ground game.

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +2

      Testa. During training they all knocked Lee on his ass. One example, Wally Jay: " One day we were training and I took out Bruce's leg and swept him hard. He went straight down and landed on the floor square on his behind. I thought he would be angry or upset that he got swept but as soon as his backside hit the floor, he just burst out laughing."

  • @paulmarsh9544
    @paulmarsh9544 5 лет назад

    The biggest mistake is not learning Kenpo instead

    • @dizdeck357
      @dizdeck357 5 лет назад

      Haha kempo..what a ioke

  • @ycming
    @ycming 5 лет назад +1

    Wing Chun is a mistake if you try it in real fight

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +2

      It can work in some situations quite well.

    • @ycming
      @ycming 5 лет назад

      @@philosopher0076 yes. In one of those wing Chun dance class . I agree.

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +2

      Ming Yuen. Really? Say that in front of Wing Chun practicioners such as Gary Lam, Keith Mazza or Francis Fong...and you might wake up in a hospital emergency room after they show you the Wing Chun " Two step ".

    • @ycming
      @ycming 5 лет назад

      @@philosopher0076 I think this is where we are different, if I am fighting , I won't be doing any ' saying'. They talk about fighting them do some dancing.

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +2

      Ming Yuen. Talk is cheap man. Where are your videos of you in your fighting or sparring glory? Nowhere right? That's what I thought.

  • @chief9-10-games5
    @chief9-10-games5 5 лет назад +1

    The biggest mistake Win Chun fighters make is wasting there time, money and effort learning such a useless martial art .

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +2

      Chief9-10 Wrong.

    • @chief9-10-games5
      @chief9-10-games5 5 лет назад

      @@philosopher0076 LMFAO try it with me and I'll BREAK U OVER AND OVER AGAIN life is not a Bruce Lee movie try that GARBAGE in a real world situation and you most likely end up in a hospital if it's a fighter that REMOTELY knows how to fight

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +4

      Chief9-10 Big mouth behind a keyboard. Hilarious and typical. Try your fighting prowess against streetfighters who are Wing Chun instructors such as Gary Lam, Keith Mazza etc., etc. Then try running your mouth, when you're on the floor spittin dice...or out cold.

    • @chief9-10-games5
      @chief9-10-games5 5 лет назад

      @@philosopher0076 lmfao I've wrestled since I was 13 boxed the same and have been in Judo for 20 yrs WinChun is a secondary movie prop as far as I'm concerned tossed em slammed them and choked them and they NEVER wanted more lol WINCHUN IS FOR MOVIE FANS that have no idea what the REAL world has to OFFER. Idiots like you are going to get disillusioned people hurt If an idiot like you EVER got outta line with me you wld WAKE UP DEAD LOL

    • @philosopher0076
      @philosopher0076 5 лет назад +3

      Chief9-10 .. Hey Fuckface. Heard it all before. Go to any of the aforementioned streetfighters who are also WC instructors for 30 years, try and start some shit with them, and see how many doctors have to put you back together...if you wake up at all. And I teach JKD and boxing and street self defense, not WC....but the men I mentioned, are very real "Chief".