Excellent information. I spend at least 3 years in a Wing Chun school doing exactly what you are warning us about. Thank you very much for this lesson.
I absolutely love this channel and Sifu Jason. I think this is the best most down to earth instruction people can get... people should have to pay for this instruction. There’s no BS here. I send people to this channel every chance I get!
I was taught a far less traditional Wing Chun, and they incorporated stuff from other arts like Hsing I and Bagua. The biggest mistake I see in most Wing Chun is fighters would rather spend time trying control the opponent's hands than just get off the line of attack. All of the touch drills are meant for a split second to get the advantage and destroy the opponent.
If the first rule of martial arts is, don't be where the punch goes. Then you could effectively say, the biggest mistake in Wing Chun is the same mistake made in every form of martial arts. And that is... being where the punch lands. The second biggest mistake that is made by all forms of martial arts is the thinking. Most people who practice martial arts, will most likely use this or that to fight for sport. Or entertainment. When you realize that your enemy is not attacking you so that they can make you a cake. Then one can assert that the biggest mistake that you can make in any form of martial arts is that, you are not fighting for your life. Because there's a big difference between knocking your enemy down, and letting him get up again. And taking that individual out permanently. It is literally Straight Out of The Art of War. The 700 year old Chinese text on warfare. You fight to win. You fight to live. And you never, ever, let your enemy retreat regroup and come back stronger than before. If you're not fighting for your life. You're exercising. Hand to hand combat is exactly that. Combat. And in combat, we aren't rolling around in our underwear trying to stick our fingers in each other's butt. And if you want to know who the winner is, in a combat situation. It's easy. He's the one still breathing.
@@ohshipman ... would you care to elaborate? I'm a former combat Soldier. With experience in hand-to-hand combat, on the battlefield. Explain to me, how I'm wrong.
First, voiding in a fight is good and more people should understand it, but depending solely on it is a real mistake, parrying and advancing gives you a better chance against someone who has a longer reach than you. Then you can use some dodging and attack technique on them, but surrendering ground alone and saying that is the best thing to do is a stretch to say the least. Sun Tzu did not said that. He said to win everything is worth doing, but to destroy your enemy totally is a mistake, if you do so, he will probably hate you and your conquest will be worthless. If you can not fight to win, how can you jump to fight to live? The logic does not add up, you need the first to achieve the second. Sun Tzu is also much older than 700 years, much, much older. You either lied about understanding Sun Tzu or did not understood him so you are probably lying about being a combat soldier as well, or you should just put more enphasis on the "former". Hard combat elites knew throughout the ages as they know nowadays that you need competition and sparring before you can truly defend yourself in a life or death situation against another fighter. As I have pointed out. Loads of Jumbo.
@@ohshipman ... if you have destroyed your enemy completely, who is left to hate you? And thank you for calling me a liar. Because that implies that I want something from you. And then I have time, to manipulate my speech in order to try and extract something from your intelligence. I'm not an advertising executive. And I don't give a fuk about you.
Great video! I was first surprised when my teacher started my Wing Chun training with western boxing, but then I understood the value. And yes, my finger did a decent job clicking Like button.
@David Mack because my goal was Wing Chun, not boxing. My teacher included western boxing to make sure I know how to fight against it, not just against another Wing Chun practitioner. Besides, 95% of people on the street will attack with boxing punch.
You have people take more of a posture like Bak Mei which is interesting. Personally, where I see people make mistakes the most in Wing Chun is not valuing positioning and footwork, and trying to deflect or block everything instead of getting out of the way, covering, and closing the gap. Also a lot of lack of understanding of biomechanics for power. Doesn't matter much if you hit them if it's mostly just a poke. Just my personal opinion based on my experience.
Bak Mei is dangerous, make no mistake...Wing Chun was created for the sole purpose of destroying practitioners of Bak Mei as the vast majority of the Northern Manchurian army consisted of Bak Mei rogues.
Thank you. Perfect explanation on how to train in todays time and think. 99% of the well known wing chun instructors out there are still training their students training methods that they were taught from ip mans time. They have not evolved to todays time of fighting. In fact they have stopped learning so will find it hard to cope with todays aggressive fighting attacks with their old training drills. Wing chun is a Thinking Persons Art.
Wing chun works best when: You are very close- you are constantly moving forward- your hands and arms are hardened/conditioned - you surprise the attacker.
@Silent Psykosis do you not think that people can adapt to getting check hooked? ( just asking cause I tried studying this while I trained bjj and boxing)
Smh the problem with Wing Chun practitioners is they believe the straight line moving forward snappy arm punches is going to stop trained fighters. Wrong that’s just reckless teeps and lateral movement will destroy you right in your tracks.
@MrAkaalis besides the hollywood fantasy/ action. Ip man movies . I don't see Wing Chun having a good future. There way behind. Muay Thai, Mma, Boxing. And Lethwei They're advancing fighters keep getting stronger . While Wing Chunners are still arguing over lineages and who's Chi Sao is better.
Good points. Tactical Reality is what I call it. Many confrontations don’t conform to any one style and a street fighter has 3 to 5 techniques that allow them the advantage in a street fight and ultimately a KO or at least a TKO. A feign jab with a quick cross will normally take someone out unless they have plenty of time sparring for example. I like this guy’s (Sifu’s) methodology.
@Motor City Cobra ... I don't know who that is. But I once watched my friend throw six cops out of a window. Serving a search warrant, looking for someone else. They weren't expecting a jiu jitsu Master on the other side of that door. They were convinced, they had a plan. Plan B... Having to be ... bean bags. And now he's serving life in prison.
It's a energy drill bong lap the techniques are secondary it's the understanding of energy that's why it's called a energy drill my friend I totally agree with what your saying my respects from Sifu to Sifu from across the Water keep Up The great work my respects 🙏😊
The biggest mistake is static defense, non-resisting opponents, static footwork, and more than one punch per one punch of the opponent. You get at most two punches. Wear headgear and 4 oz. gloves and let them hit back.
It's like a basketball player doing layup or free throw drills. He's not going to do a layup if there's a center there blocking his way or try to shoot a free throw style shot if there's someone guarding him.
Amen brother I am Sifu Julian Sawyer so many have never been in a real fight I teach combat strategy of Wing Chun creating reaction fighting on the blind side and other important fighting stradegie
Ha..love that Pierre Burton is right at the end. A great Canadian. He had an amazing interview with Bruce Lee when he was in Hong Kong. I think it was shortly before his death. Very revealing interview if you have never seen it.
Michael Black we will get that one online soon. Sorry. If you want, go to our website and drop us an email with your address and shirt size. If you’re in the U.S. I’ll see what I can do about getting you one. 😎. Our way of saying thanks for watching.
Watch Tony Ferguson. I agree and thumbs up the comment and this old guy is cringey as fuck with the hand speed but there is some good to take from everything...
Thank you..ply expand on this I took 3 months in Chicago. And now years later I am our west in Re no looking for a Wing Chun School but this is the second time I heard what you are explaining. The closest place is Sacramento Cali 2 hours away ,but this issue needs to be address in depth before I continue. Thank you so much 👍!!
I don't know why some people are criticising you. Wing chun is not my thing but your idea is solid. Even if you are not 100% correct, it's prettty clear you are on the right path. Time will tell, and even if there is something missing I am pretty sure you will find it.
Ohship former sip thanks for the input and support. I think the main reason people people are being flippant (the critics, that is) is because they’re making the mistake of thinking a self-defense fight is gonna be exactly like an mma or boxing match. They won’t. A good many MMA fighters have been in street altercations and have admitted they weren’t the same thing. That said, Wing Chun is designed for a sudden encounter, not a match. That’s a significant difference that critics are unwilling to consider. My 4x4 truck isn’t a race car but I don’t need my truck to race on a track. It’s like that. Anyway, it’s folks like you we hope to reach - to educate and encourage - out there, so thanks for checking in. 🙏
Jason, Does your website have examples of JKD fight tactics or training drills that would support the fight tactics of your style? Curious about how to transition from tools to combat application. Thanks!
5:01 Yeah you CAN use a bong sau against it LOL. At least you can with the wing chun i've learned. I've pressure tested and sparred against some of my frriends (most of whom box), and i personally in my own experience found that Bong sau and Tan Sau actually work great against a straight punch. You turn with the bong to redirect it and step in to counter, and you can use Tan Sau to get into the outside gate. It's honestly not that hard. But your method works too :)
@@dizdeck357 Hardly. If I relied solely on WC then I'd get my ass beat on the ground. As it stands that's not a problem from using Boxing, wrestling and WC. WC complements boxing well, and anyone can get taken to the ground.
@@i-evi-l wing Chun compliments any other martial art. That's the power of it. Wing chun doesn't teach you technique, it teaches kung fu. And maybe YOU would get your ass beat on the ground, and maybe YOU would get your ass beat standing up too🤣
I typed out this huge comment of my opinions, questions, etc. but then I realized nobody really wants to read all that so I’m just gonna make it short and sweet. I’m not a wing Chun practitioner so please inform me on what your meaning, are you saying that the drills you mentioned such as chi sau are basically pointless? Great video as always
Ps that Man Sau guard is terrible I never use it isn't practical at all maybe against other WCK but we spar with many different systems if you don't leave your comfort Zone you never grow that's why training in a pressurised environment is Key to increase your skill set my respects great film 🙏😊
Would you as a wing chun martial artist invite a martial artist with equal experirience in a stand up sparring match and post it? The old way is a better way to see what works and what not does.
IMHO If the Wing Chun foundation concepts are not fully understood by the student, then everything becomes looking like imitations and the student suffers the consequences. Therfore don't try to imitate Wing Wing Chun, rather become Wing Chun.
@@sergiobatista2272 Anderson Silva & Tony Ferguson both used elements of Wing Chun that worked in the short run but was easily neutralize due to being used out of context in UFC and their opponent's were properly prepared to overcome them with the right preparation and training. However McGregor's Wing Chun (close range) shoulder strikes against "Cowboy" worked perfectly well as the element of surprise was a success was due to never being trained against such a technique for most professional fighters or opponents, yet on the streets a shoulder stike is very common. As Bruce Lee said "...to train every bit of your body..." this includes shoulder strikes. With Wing Chun being a part of Sun Tzu's strategy ... is to enter a fight only when you are sure of winning... where it is a bit late to back out when entering the cage, thefore Wing Chun doesn't belong in UFC as the option to walk away doesn't exist IMHO
The same reason you don't go into a gun fight without training. You spend a lot of time working on your stance, aim and technique in shooting, but a static target, perfect stance and pre-drawn gun aren't combat realities.
I feel the best thing a Wing Chun practitioner could do is do some training with people who have other martial arts backgrounds. The varied the better. You don't have to use what other fighters use, but you do need to know what they can do in order to be ready for it. A comment on that right overhand/cross you were talking about. I happened upon a very old championship boxing match from the early days of modern boxing. I can't remember the names, but the new champion used that punch to face plant the old. It was beautiful. I found it: ruclips.net/video/XUDIXdef9rU/видео.html
Docinaplane You're right. Most martial arts only train to repond against their own style : Judo vs Judo, Karate vs Karate etc... That's because in old times, you couldn't find sparring partners from over background, and , of course, your school was supposed to be the best possible. However, a serious style is designed to makes you able to dominate agressors from other schools. That's why spying was SO important in ancient times ! Masters used to spy other school to copy their best techniques or to find how to counter them.
@@madjidchouarbi3921 When I fought in open tournaments back in the day, we would all watch what other fighters were doing, and if their techniques seemed to be good ones, we would incorporate them into our skill sets. Now we have RUclips :-)
The most astute and relevant presentation on parrying real life punch attacks on youtube. Watch this and wake up and smell the coffee the rest of you so called martial artists. No point teaching or learning something that won't work. Thanks once again Sifu.
Hi Sifu Jason, I’ve been watching your channel recently and must say I really like it, I think your content is great and really original. It’s helped someone like me, who has never practised, develop a deeper appreciation for the wing chun system. *ALSO*, I would really love to know you’re opinion on Roberto Duran. He’s a great boxer and a notorious infighter. I think there’s a lot of cross over between the techniques used in wing chun and the techniques he uses when fighting on the inside. This is became especially apparent to me after watching your wing chun applications series. If you’re not familiar with him, may you please check out this 6 minute video on his infighting: ruclips.net/video/IKfoBlhrCZw/видео.html
Even these blocks you are showing as a " better " way to deflect/block/stop that looping type straightish jab/hook...will not work in reality. Imagine a strong, powerful guy throwing one of those like a Mike Tyson would. The punch will blast right through that arm block your student is doing on you in this video. You would get clocked in the face and that might be it for you. If you are going to use such a chun-sao type arm block, the way to make it more functional is to pivot 90 degrees and block into the guy's INNER forearm at that 90 degree angle. So your body will be facing his inner forearm straight on. And when you pivot and block, you simultaneously throw your punch to his nose with your other hand. Now, another excellent defense against such a punch is a boxing head movement notably a slip or very slight bob to left OR right....doesn't matter because the punch is aiming for center...your face...so a slight bob to the left OR right, will cause the punch to miss. As you bob or slip, you are also launching an attacking punch to his now opened gate. Anyhow, good luck. FYI.
David Mack. There are guys in the street, criminals who've been in prison half their lives or more, who hit like Tyson and almost like Tyson. But no matter, even 75% of a Tyson punch would blow through the WC defense arm your student is using on you here. But guess what....using that WC arm/block/deflection...the way I described it, pivoting to face the opponent with your body, works, even against a Tyson looping jab....because you face the strongest position and stance, against the most vulnerable and weak position and angle of that attack punch. And yes, agreed WC used (as your student used it)....the standard way....is weak against longer distance attacks and long boxing punches coming in at odd angles. So then why are you using it ( having your student show it, perform it) as a defense to such a punch, in this video?
@@philosopher0076 Dude, that pivot block might work versus a strong slower punch, but faster guys that can punch three times to Tysons one and have a significant amount of power with it, will wonder what you were attempting as you pivoted into the next punch and are now on the ground. The quick head bob is better and anything that helps direct the punch away, even slightly might be enough. Footwork and pivots when you can sure. Anything that helps.
Stanley Myrick I said the head bob is good to do..so I don't why you even posted insofar as that goes. And as for the " faster guys" punching 3 times to Tysdon's one....doubtful as Tyson was EXTREMELY fast....not just fast for a hw...but in general. But even if the 3 to 1 scenario was true as example, Tyson would be countering simltaneous and hitting. Therefore he would smash the guy. Further, stepping in as he punched....Tyson would very likely be avoiding any 2nd or 3rd fast punch.
Respectfully Sifu. You have the right opinion of the art. You are missing the point of the art. You finding to many faults instead seeing the lethality of it.
None of these problems are because the teacher doesn’t know or the student doesn’t get it. Its our society even in America. The government has conditioned people to think they are safe and protected by the government. Imagine if murder was legal. How would you train in your school? Like you do know or like your life depended on it?
I respectfully you go fight or spar someone who doesn't do wing chun. Bet you dollars to donuts that your theories don't hold up perfectly and you have to adapt.
If you are learning any martial arts and not sparring then you are not really learning for real life situations and that's the problem. A lot of people learn martial arts with never ever actually fighting. Wing Chun for instance has a lot of base principles that make a lot of sense and are simple and efficient but a lot of martial times fighting is never really part of the learning process and learning to fight and fighting are completely different. It's like how you go to school and then get a job and realize that you actually know nothing 😂
Wing chun is a concept art, until the concepts are able to be understood it is almost worthless. If the concepts can be understood then they have to be applied, this once again is very hard. So out of 1000 people who actually learn 'proper' wing chun maybe only one of those people will be able to defend themselves against trained fighters, and that is also if they are a fighter inside. Wing chun is the hardest martial art to learn and the hardest to apply as a system. I like Wing Chun though.
In the contrary, wing Chun is a simple system. It had profound depth. And because its conceptual, people misunderstand it a lot. In my opinion. Its superior to everything. The problem is like you said. Most people suck at it and dont understand it. Out of 1000 people maybe 1 or 2 will understand it
I like WC. It's Excellent exercise for me. But I don't ever use any of its techniques in a actual fight. WC is just not effective. Maybe against someone who just stands there waiting to get hit. I rely on Boxing for stand up and if the fight goes to the ground (which about 80% of fights do) I rely on my BJJ and wrestling. Ain't nothing more satisfying than maneuvering some fool around into position and either make them scream like a bitch with an armbar or two or ground and pound their face in.
The big mistake Wing Chun people make is that they don't trust their own system. If u afraid to get hit you will get hit. Wing Chun fight ting style is walking like a robot. It is boring and simple. If u a duck, u should walk like a duck. Wing Chun don't block. It is too slow too block. A boxer boxes when step into a gym. All he does is boxing. He punch a hundred times, a thousand times. Therefore his skill is more efficient than most Wing Chun pratictioners. Wing Chun focus on forms and especially Chi Sao. Is he using his Chi Sao in figting? When the fight starts; his stance is great...then he starts blocking, which is against Wing Chun concept. Then he a starts moving his head a way from the punch. His stance changes to a boxer or a kick boxer. He or start to move his hands up or down like a Tai Chi practictioner; looks cool and fancy. On top of that he starts to shuffle like a boxer. If u are a duck why don't u walk like a duck? U are a duck; but u try to fly like a butterfy. Wham in the face; he lost his stance, his belief in the system. I am not a Wing Chun practictioner, but I started to adopt the tecnique into my fighting style due to my old age. Wing Chun is a Good combat system if you practice it right and belief in the system. Chi Sao looks cool but it does not do u any good in real combat. Jame Sin Clair is one great Wing chun pratictioner in a UK. Center line, blocking is too slow, intercepting or hitting while blocking is some of the great concepts of Wing Chun. If u want wing chun into real combat, then ask, "What does a boxer do in the gym?" Sorry for my bad English. Hope this help some new comer who plan to try Wing Chun. Any style is good if u master its tools and concepts.
Until you spar with a resisting opponent you have not prepared for a fight. Until wing chun starts training like a combat sport: boxing, muay thai, wrestling, bjj etc. it will be relegated to the world of theory. A guy boxing for a year will beat any wing chun guy who's done nothing but do drills and forms for 10 years.
So its apparent you never set foot in a wing chun school. Wing Chun has it's own set of training. There is sparring. It is just done witha different approach, but that isnt until way later until you have a pretty good understanding of the system. You dont need martial arts to fight.
deck decks it's definitely not fighting the way you guys do it! That's why there's a hundred videos on RUclips of Wing Chun Masters losing all of their technique as soon as the pressure is on LOL! You wasted your time. Go join a Jiu-Jitsu gym
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Testa ..." Judo " Gene LeBell, Small Circle Jiu Jitsu creator Wally Jay and Pan American Judo champion 1964 and Olympic gold medalist Hayward Nishioka got Lee to the ground in an instant.
Testa. During training they all knocked Lee on his ass. One example, Wally Jay: " One day we were training and I took out Bruce's leg and swept him hard. He went straight down and landed on the floor square on his behind. I thought he would be angry or upset that he got swept but as soon as his backside hit the floor, he just burst out laughing."
Ming Yuen. Really? Say that in front of Wing Chun practicioners such as Gary Lam, Keith Mazza or Francis Fong...and you might wake up in a hospital emergency room after they show you the Wing Chun " Two step ".
@@philosopher0076 I think this is where we are different, if I am fighting , I won't be doing any ' saying'. They talk about fighting them do some dancing.
@@philosopher0076 LMFAO try it with me and I'll BREAK U OVER AND OVER AGAIN life is not a Bruce Lee movie try that GARBAGE in a real world situation and you most likely end up in a hospital if it's a fighter that REMOTELY knows how to fight
Chief9-10 Big mouth behind a keyboard. Hilarious and typical. Try your fighting prowess against streetfighters who are Wing Chun instructors such as Gary Lam, Keith Mazza etc., etc. Then try running your mouth, when you're on the floor spittin dice...or out cold.
@@philosopher0076 lmfao I've wrestled since I was 13 boxed the same and have been in Judo for 20 yrs WinChun is a secondary movie prop as far as I'm concerned tossed em slammed them and choked them and they NEVER wanted more lol WINCHUN IS FOR MOVIE FANS that have no idea what the REAL world has to OFFER. Idiots like you are going to get disillusioned people hurt If an idiot like you EVER got outta line with me you wld WAKE UP DEAD LOL
Chief9-10 .. Hey Fuckface. Heard it all before. Go to any of the aforementioned streetfighters who are also WC instructors for 30 years, try and start some shit with them, and see how many doctors have to put you back together...if you wake up at all. And I teach JKD and boxing and street self defense, not WC....but the men I mentioned, are very real "Chief".
Excellent information. I spend at least 3 years in a Wing Chun school doing exactly what you are warning us about. Thank you very much for this lesson.
I absolutely love this channel and Sifu Jason. I think this is the best most down to earth instruction people can get... people should have to pay for this instruction. There’s no BS here. I send people to this channel every chance I get!
Thanks so much. 🙏
I was taught a far less traditional Wing Chun, and they incorporated stuff from other arts like Hsing I and Bagua. The biggest mistake I see in most Wing Chun is fighters would rather spend time trying control the opponent's hands than just get off the line of attack. All of the touch drills are meant for a split second to get the advantage and destroy the opponent.
If the first rule of martial arts is, don't be where the punch goes. Then you could effectively say, the biggest mistake in Wing Chun is the same mistake made in every form of martial arts. And that is... being where the punch lands. The second biggest mistake that is made by all forms of martial arts is the thinking. Most people who practice martial arts, will most likely use this or that to fight for sport. Or entertainment. When you realize that your enemy is not attacking you so that they can make you a cake. Then one can assert that the biggest mistake that you can make in any form of martial arts is that, you are not fighting for your life. Because there's a big difference between knocking your enemy down, and letting him get up again. And taking that individual out permanently. It is literally Straight Out of The Art of War. The 700 year old Chinese text on warfare. You fight to win. You fight to live. And you never, ever, let your enemy retreat regroup and come back stronger than before. If you're not fighting for your life. You're exercising. Hand to hand combat is exactly that. Combat. And in combat, we aren't rolling around in our underwear trying to stick our fingers in each other's butt. And if you want to know who the winner is, in a combat situation. It's easy. He's the one still breathing.
Loads of jumbo.
@@ohshipman ... would you care to elaborate? I'm a former combat Soldier. With experience in hand-to-hand combat, on the battlefield. Explain to me, how I'm wrong.
First, voiding in a fight is good and more people should understand it, but depending solely on it is a real mistake, parrying and advancing gives you a better chance against someone who has a longer reach than you. Then you can use some dodging and attack technique on them, but surrendering ground alone and saying that is the best thing to do is a stretch to say the least.
Sun Tzu did not said that. He said to win everything is worth doing, but to destroy your enemy totally is a mistake, if you do so, he will probably hate you and your conquest will be worthless. If you can not fight to win, how can you jump to fight to live? The logic does not add up, you need the first to achieve the second. Sun Tzu is also much older than 700 years, much, much older.
You either lied about understanding Sun Tzu or did not understood him so you are probably lying about being a combat soldier as well, or you should just put more enphasis on the "former". Hard combat elites knew throughout the ages as they know nowadays that you need competition and sparring before you can truly defend yourself in a life or death situation against another fighter.
As I have pointed out. Loads of Jumbo.
@@ohshipman ... if you have destroyed your enemy completely, who is left to hate you? And thank you for calling me a liar. Because that implies that I want something from you. And then I have time, to manipulate my speech in order to try and extract something from your intelligence. I'm not an advertising executive. And I don't give a fuk about you.
Hands up. Very practical approach as always. Keep up the good work.
I love your logic, and analogies. 'It don't work if it only works in Wing Chun'. So true and so real.
True!its like in boxing:you dont move like in jumping rope or throw punches as on speed bag;those are drill for specific pourposes.
As Rene Latosa said on a seminar (rephrased): "Patterns are just that: patterns. However you need to explore and weaponize them."
I've been saying this for years.
Thanks.
Agree
Thanks for this information it help my a lot in training
Great video! I was first surprised when my teacher started my Wing Chun training with western boxing, but then I understood the value. And yes, my finger did a decent job clicking Like button.
@David Mack because my goal was Wing Chun, not boxing. My teacher included western boxing to make sure I know how to fight against it, not just against another Wing Chun practitioner. Besides, 95% of people on the street will attack with boxing punch.
@David Mack I agree! And that's what this video is about.
Whole lot of good info on this video. Especially for WC people.
All Chunners should be listening to your excellent and practical advice...
Cheers Dublin Ireland...
You have people take more of a posture like Bak Mei which is interesting.
Personally, where I see people make mistakes the most in Wing Chun is not valuing positioning and footwork, and trying to deflect or block everything instead of getting out of the way, covering, and closing the gap.
Also a lot of lack of understanding of biomechanics for power. Doesn't matter much if you hit them if it's mostly just a poke.
Just my personal opinion based on my experience.
BlueFang714 Exactly.
Bak Mei is dangerous, make no mistake...Wing Chun was created for the sole purpose of destroying practitioners of Bak Mei as the vast majority of the Northern Manchurian army consisted of Bak Mei rogues.
@@travisberthold1825 not true. Source of ur history??
@@aidenfisher5679 He won't respond because it's not true.
Thank you. Perfect explanation on how to train in todays time and think.
99% of the well known wing chun instructors out there are still training their students training methods that they were taught from ip mans time. They have not evolved to todays time of fighting. In fact they have stopped learning so will find it hard to cope with todays aggressive fighting attacks with their old training drills. Wing chun is a Thinking Persons Art.
Great video 👍🏽
Excellent advice
Very good explanation!!!
Yeah, perfect mindset, I totally agree with the "working/practical" concepts and "good better best" valuation in training thanks!
Wing chun works best when: You are very close- you are constantly moving forward- your hands and arms are hardened/conditioned - you surprise the attacker.
@Silent Psykosis do you not think that people can adapt to getting check hooked? ( just asking cause I tried studying this while I trained bjj and boxing)
@Silent Psykosis depends. If the guy knows how to fight and use wc. Then there's a difference.
@Silent Psykosis I see. Hmmm.
Smh the problem with Wing Chun practitioners is they believe the straight line moving forward snappy arm punches is going to stop trained fighters. Wrong that’s just reckless teeps and lateral movement will destroy you right in your tracks.
@MrAkaalis besides the hollywood fantasy/ action. Ip man movies . I don't see Wing Chun having a good future. There way behind. Muay Thai, Mma, Boxing. And Lethwei They're advancing fighters keep getting stronger . While Wing Chunners are still arguing over lineages and who's Chi Sao is better.
Good points.
Tactical Reality is what I call it. Many confrontations don’t conform to any one style and a street fighter has 3 to 5 techniques that allow them the advantage in a street fight and ultimately a KO or at least a TKO. A feign jab with a quick cross will normally take someone out unless they have plenty of time sparring for example.
I like this guy’s (Sifu’s) methodology.
"Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face."
Mike Tyson
@Motor City Cobra ... I don't know who that is. But I once watched my friend throw six cops out of a window. Serving a search warrant, looking for someone else. They weren't expecting a jiu jitsu Master on the other side of that door. They were convinced, they had a plan. Plan B... Having to be ... bean bags. And now he's serving life in prison.
@Motor City Cobra ... Still an accurate quote.
It's a energy drill bong lap the techniques are secondary it's the understanding of energy that's why it's called a energy drill my friend I totally agree with what your saying my respects from Sifu to Sifu from across the Water keep
Up
The great work my respects 🙏😊
Taking it up would be at the top of the list 😁
absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. -- Bruce Lee
i'm currently learning wingchun, some how what your saying is correct, nice advice, keep on uploading videos
The thing I hate about your channel
is it doesn't have enough subs
Duchi well, we certainly appreciate that. 🙏
The biggest mistake is static defense, non-resisting opponents, static footwork, and more than one punch per one punch of the opponent. You get at most two punches. Wear headgear and 4 oz. gloves and let them hit back.
That re washing thing hit home hard. You are right, I took no chances and hit like.
Thanks from Texas
Interesting. Thanks from Texas.
Please explain more on this.
It's like a basketball player doing layup or free throw drills. He's not going to do a layup if there's a center there blocking his way or try to shoot a free throw style shot if there's someone guarding him.
Amen brother I am Sifu Julian Sawyer so many have never been in a real fight I teach combat strategy of Wing Chun creating reaction fighting on the blind side and other important fighting stradegie
Ha..love that Pierre Burton is right at the end. A great Canadian. He had an amazing interview with Bruce Lee when he was in Hong Kong. I think it was shortly before his death. Very revealing interview if you have never seen it.
I totally agree, that's why I stopped paying my Sifu $100 a month.
excellent.Like Karate, Wing Chun needs to be adjusted.Likewise Akido.Combat and fighting has changed so much over the years.Excellent video.
? How has it changed?
Dude, no link to your website. I'm too lazy to type in the characters.
Sounds like a personal problem, to me...
...you weren't too lazy to type in your reply; which is longer than the website addy...
You sell the hit first shirt?
Michael Black we will get that one online soon. Sorry. If you want, go to our website and drop us an email with your address and shirt size. If you’re in the U.S. I’ll see what I can do about getting you one.
😎. Our way of saying thanks for watching.
A lot of that lack of reality can easily be remedied by sparring regularly. Lightly, of course. Most people don't learn much by being beaten on.
biggest mistake would be not choosing boxing instead
Watch Tony Ferguson. I agree and thumbs up the comment and this old guy is cringey as fuck with the hand speed but there is some good to take from everything...
Thank you..ply expand on this I took 3 months in Chicago. And now years later I am our west in Re no looking for a Wing Chun School but this is the second time I heard what you are explaining. The closest place is Sacramento Cali 2 hours away ,but this issue needs to be address in depth before I continue. Thank you so much 👍!!
For give my typos ..I was writing too fast.
I trained in Chicago too. Who was your instructor?
I don't know why some people are criticising you. Wing chun is not my thing but your idea is solid. Even if you are not 100% correct, it's prettty clear you are on the right path. Time will tell, and even if there is something missing I am pretty sure you will find it.
Ohship former sip thanks for the input and support.
I think the main reason people people are being flippant (the critics, that is) is because they’re making the mistake of thinking a self-defense fight is gonna be exactly like an mma or boxing match. They won’t. A good many MMA fighters have been in street altercations and have admitted they weren’t the same thing.
That said, Wing Chun is designed for a sudden encounter, not a match. That’s a significant difference that critics are unwilling to consider. My 4x4 truck isn’t a race car but I don’t need my truck to race on a track. It’s like that.
Anyway, it’s folks like you we hope to reach - to educate and encourage - out there, so thanks for checking in.
🙏
Jason,
Does your website have examples of JKD fight tactics or training drills that would support the fight tactics of your style? Curious about how to transition from tools to combat application. Thanks!
Friendly spar drills just like any other system
"JAMMING TECHNIQUES" looking forward to that lession... : )
5:01 Yeah you CAN use a bong sau against it LOL. At least you can with the wing chun i've learned. I've pressure tested and sparred against some of my frriends (most of whom box), and i personally in my own experience found that Bong sau and Tan Sau actually work great against a straight punch. You turn with the bong to redirect it and step in to counter, and you can use Tan Sau to get into the outside gate. It's honestly not that hard. But your method works too :)
I forget to press like and it played on infinite loop.
Wing chun is already complete and combat applicable.
No it's not complete because of zero ground game. It's pretty okay for stand-up but even then it is still lacking.
@@i-evi-l then you too misunderstand the nature of the system my friend 😎
@@dizdeck357 Hardly. If I relied solely on WC then I'd get my ass beat on the ground. As it stands that's not a problem from using Boxing, wrestling and WC. WC complements boxing well, and anyone can get taken to the ground.
@@i-evi-l wing Chun compliments any other martial art. That's the power of it. Wing chun doesn't teach you technique, it teaches kung fu. And maybe YOU would get your ass beat on the ground, and maybe YOU would get your ass beat standing up too🤣
I typed out this huge comment of my opinions, questions, etc. but then I realized nobody really wants to read all that so I’m just gonna make it short and sweet. I’m not a wing Chun practitioner so please inform me on what your meaning, are you saying that the drills you mentioned such as chi sau are basically pointless? Great video as always
Wing chun doesn't have "drills" to mechanicalif you're calling it a drill
diz deck so what are you saying. Maybe I used the wrong word. But still help me understand
Amen!!!!!
Ps that Man Sau guard is terrible I never use it isn't practical at all maybe against other WCK but we spar with many different systems if you don't leave your comfort Zone you never grow that's why training in a pressurised environment is Key to increase your skill set my respects great film 🙏😊
Would you as a wing chun martial artist invite a martial artist with equal experirience in a stand up sparring match and post it?
The old way is a better way to see what works and what not does.
Have u practiced wing chun?
IMHO If the Wing Chun foundation concepts are not fully understood by the student, then everything becomes looking like imitations and the student suffers the consequences.
Therfore don't try to imitate Wing Wing Chun, rather become Wing Chun.
Well said! Most wing Chun guys we see on RUclips are just clowns...not real wing Chun practitioners.
@@sergiobatista2272 Anderson Silva & Tony Ferguson both used elements of Wing Chun that worked in the short run but was easily neutralize due to being used out of context in UFC and their opponent's were properly prepared to overcome them with the right preparation and training.
However McGregor's Wing Chun (close range) shoulder strikes against "Cowboy" worked perfectly well as the element of surprise was a success was due to never being trained against such a technique for most professional fighters or opponents, yet on the streets a shoulder stike is very common.
As Bruce Lee said "...to train every bit of your body..." this includes shoulder strikes.
With Wing Chun being a part of Sun Tzu's strategy ... is to enter a fight only when you are sure of winning... where it is a bit late to back out when entering the cage, thefore Wing Chun doesn't belong in UFC as the option to walk away doesn't exist IMHO
Wing chun can be efective if the opponent just silent like a wood..
Why on earth would you a drill in a martial art/combat sport that is not fight transferable???
The same reason you don't go into a gun fight without training. You spend a lot of time working on your stance, aim and technique in shooting, but a static target, perfect stance and pre-drawn gun aren't combat realities.
My guess is no....wing chun is also about counter strikes and striking at the exact moment the attacker throws the 👊.
Took u a while to respond
biggest mistake WC fighters make is practicing WC
Beat me to it
Ok tough guy
I feel the best thing a Wing Chun practitioner could do is do some training with people who have other martial arts backgrounds. The varied the better. You don't have to use what other fighters use, but you do need to know what they can do in order to be ready for it. A comment on that right overhand/cross you were talking about. I happened upon a very old championship boxing match from the early days of modern boxing. I can't remember the names, but the new champion used that punch to face plant the old. It was beautiful. I found it:
ruclips.net/video/XUDIXdef9rU/видео.html
Like Bruce did
Docinaplane You're right. Most martial arts only train to repond against their own style : Judo vs Judo, Karate vs Karate etc... That's because in old times, you couldn't find sparring partners from over background, and , of course, your school was supposed to be the best possible. However, a serious style is designed to makes you able to dominate agressors from other schools. That's why spying was SO important in ancient times ! Masters used to spy other school to copy their best techniques or to find how to counter them.
@@madjidchouarbi3921 When I fought in open tournaments back in the day, we would all watch what other fighters were doing, and if their techniques seemed to be good ones, we would incorporate them into our skill sets. Now we have RUclips :-)
To gain muscle memory u need years of practice
A muscle doesnt have memory...
No a brain does...85% training is the mind 15% is physical
So technically the most important muscle does have memory...the brain and that is a muscle
Stop being closed minded
The most astute and relevant presentation on parrying real life punch attacks on youtube. Watch this and wake up and smell the coffee the rest of you so called martial artists. No point teaching or learning something that won't work. Thanks once again Sifu.
andrew huckerby 🙏
Hi Sifu Jason, I’ve been watching your channel recently and must say I really like it, I think your content is great and really original. It’s helped someone like me, who has never practised, develop a deeper appreciation for the wing chun system.
*ALSO*, I would really love to know you’re opinion on Roberto Duran. He’s a great boxer and a notorious infighter. I think there’s a lot of cross over between the techniques used in wing chun and the techniques he uses when fighting on the inside. This is became especially apparent to me after watching your wing chun applications series.
If you’re not familiar with him, may you please check out this 6 minute video on his infighting:
ruclips.net/video/IKfoBlhrCZw/видео.html
Even these blocks you are showing as a " better " way to deflect/block/stop that looping type straightish jab/hook...will not work in reality. Imagine a strong, powerful guy throwing one of those like a Mike Tyson would. The punch will blast right through that arm block your student is doing on you in this video. You would get clocked in the face and that might be it for you. If you are going to use such a chun-sao type arm block, the way to make it more functional is to pivot 90 degrees and block into the guy's INNER forearm at that 90 degree angle. So your body will be facing his inner forearm straight on. And when you pivot and block, you simultaneously throw your punch to his nose with your other hand. Now, another excellent defense against such a punch is a boxing head movement notably a slip or very slight bob to left OR right....doesn't matter because the punch is aiming for center...your face...so a slight bob to the left OR right, will cause the punch to miss. As you bob or slip, you are also launching an attacking punch to his now opened gate. Anyhow, good luck. FYI.
David Mack. There are guys in the street, criminals who've been in prison half their lives or more, who hit like Tyson and almost like Tyson. But no matter, even 75% of a Tyson punch would blow through the WC defense arm your student is using on you here. But guess what....using that WC arm/block/deflection...the way I described it, pivoting to face the opponent with your body, works, even against a Tyson looping jab....because you face the strongest position and stance, against the most vulnerable and weak position and angle of that attack punch. And yes, agreed WC used (as your student used it)....the standard way....is weak against longer distance attacks and long boxing punches coming in at odd angles. So then why are you using it ( having your student show it, perform it) as a defense to such a punch, in this video?
David Mack. I asked you a question. So what is bullshit...?
@@philosopher0076 Dude, that pivot block might work versus a strong slower punch, but faster guys that can punch three times to Tysons one and have a significant amount of power with it, will wonder what you were attempting as you pivoted into the next punch and are now on the ground. The quick head bob is better and anything that helps direct the punch away, even slightly might be enough. Footwork and pivots when you can sure. Anything that helps.
Stanley Myrick I said the head bob is good to do..so I don't why you even posted insofar as that goes. And as for the " faster guys" punching 3 times to Tysdon's one....doubtful as Tyson was EXTREMELY fast....not just fast for a hw...but in general. But even if the 3 to 1 scenario was true as example, Tyson would be countering simltaneous and hitting. Therefore he would smash the guy. Further, stepping in as he punched....Tyson would very likely be avoiding any 2nd or 3rd fast punch.
Respectfully Sifu. You have the right opinion of the art. You are missing the point of the art. You finding to many faults instead seeing the lethality of it.
"You were realistic instead of dogmatic"
None of these problems are because the teacher doesn’t know or the student doesn’t get it. Its our society even in America. The government has conditioned people to think they are safe and protected by the government. Imagine if murder was legal. How would you train in your school? Like you do know or like your life depended on it?
You don’t realise understand the core concepts of Wing Chun my friend, hence the confusion.
I respectfully you go fight or spar someone who doesn't do wing chun. Bet you dollars to donuts that your theories don't hold up perfectly and you have to adapt.
Wtf. Everything he just demonstrated is right in line with WC practice when it comes to setting up parries.
biggest mistake is they learn wing chun in the first place
If you are learning any martial arts and not sparring then you are not really learning for real life situations and that's the problem. A lot of people learn martial arts with never ever actually fighting. Wing Chun for instance has a lot of base principles that make a lot of sense and are simple and efficient but a lot of martial times fighting is never really part of the learning process and learning to fight and fighting are completely different. It's like how you go to school and then get a job and realize that you actually know nothing 😂
Wing chun is a concept art, until the concepts are able to be understood it is almost worthless. If the concepts can be understood then they have to be applied, this once again is very hard. So out of 1000 people who actually learn 'proper' wing chun maybe only one of those people will be able to defend themselves against trained fighters, and that is also if they are a fighter inside. Wing chun is the hardest martial art to learn and the hardest to apply as a system. I like Wing Chun though.
In the contrary, wing Chun is a simple system. It had profound depth. And because its conceptual, people misunderstand it a lot. In my opinion. Its superior to everything. The problem is like you said. Most people suck at it and dont understand it. Out of 1000 people maybe 1 or 2 will understand it
@@dizdeck357 yeah very few people can fight with it
I like WC. It's Excellent exercise for me. But I don't ever use any of its techniques in a actual fight. WC is just not effective. Maybe against someone who just stands there waiting to get hit. I rely on Boxing for stand up and if the fight goes to the ground (which about 80% of fights do) I rely on my BJJ and wrestling. Ain't nothing more satisfying than maneuvering some fool around into position and either make them scream like a bitch with an armbar or two or ground and pound their face in.
Sifu Victor Gutierrez have been doing that for years. But he does much better than this.
And Emin Boztep...and Randy Williams...and so many others. Oh... And me as well 😊
By the looks of it u have only seen wing chun in the movies
The biggest mistake is that they do Wing Chun.
true but only part of the story.
The big mistake Wing Chun people make is that they don't trust their own system. If u afraid to get hit you will get hit. Wing Chun fight ting style is walking like a robot. It is boring and simple. If u a duck, u should walk like a duck. Wing Chun don't block. It is too slow too block. A boxer boxes when step into a gym. All he does is boxing. He punch a hundred times, a thousand times. Therefore his skill is more efficient than most Wing Chun pratictioners. Wing Chun focus on forms and especially Chi Sao. Is he using his Chi Sao in figting? When the fight starts; his stance is great...then he starts blocking, which is against Wing Chun concept. Then he a starts moving his head a way from the punch. His stance changes to a boxer or a kick boxer. He or start to move his hands up or down like a Tai Chi practictioner; looks cool and fancy. On top of that he starts to shuffle like a boxer. If u are a duck why don't u walk like a duck? U are a duck; but u try to fly like a butterfy. Wham in the face; he lost his stance, his belief in the system. I am not a Wing Chun practictioner, but I started to adopt the tecnique into my fighting style due to my old age. Wing Chun is a Good combat system if you practice it right and belief in the system. Chi Sao looks cool but it does not do u any good in real combat. Jame Sin Clair is one great Wing chun pratictioner in a UK. Center line, blocking is too slow, intercepting or hitting while blocking is some of the great concepts of Wing Chun. If u want wing chun into real combat, then ask, "What does a boxer do in the gym?" Sorry for my bad English. Hope this help some new comer who plan to try Wing Chun. Any style is good if u master its tools and concepts.
Until you spar with a resisting opponent you have not prepared for a fight. Until wing chun starts training like a combat sport: boxing, muay thai, wrestling, bjj etc. it will be relegated to the world of theory. A guy boxing for a year will beat any wing chun guy who's done nothing but do drills and forms for 10 years.
So its apparent you never set foot in a wing chun school. Wing Chun has it's own set of training. There is sparring. It is just done witha different approach, but that isnt until way later until you have a pretty good understanding of the system. You dont need martial arts to fight.
@@dizdeck357 If you think chi sao is anything like a real fight you're kidding yourself.
Chi sao isnt fighting and neither is sparring, bud.
deck decks it's definitely not fighting the way you guys do it! That's why there's a hundred videos on RUclips of Wing Chun Masters losing all of their technique as soon as the pressure is on LOL! You wasted your time. Go join a Jiu-Jitsu gym
@@robertrobertson8575 haha..wing chun masters? Show me a video of a wing chun master??! Lol
Wing chun not good for street fight !? 🤔
WING CHUN , IS NOT A PERFECT ( MARTIAL ART ) .!!!!!! . DEPENDS ON THE TEACHER .? . THAT WHY , ( BRUCE LEE ) , CREATED HIS OWN MARTIAL ARTS , OF JKD .!!!!!! . AND HAS BECOME , VERY AFFECTIVE , DEFENDING ON THE TEACHER .? . STUDY : THE SYTEM U THINK 🤔 U ARE INTERESTING IN .? . 🙏🏾📚📖📚🙏🏾.....BEFORE , JOINING 😂👍.!!!!!! .
The biggest mistake that Wing Chun fighters make is “accepting challenge matches against MMA fighters”. 😆
This comment is so dumb on many levels lol
Ok, so I just went to your website and noticed you don't offer any ground game? Isn't that a huge hole in your curriculum?
Testa facebook.com/BossGrappling/. That’s a link to our BJJ instructor’s Facebook page. We’re redoing our website over the next few months to include that as well as our online classes, etc. Either way, thanks for taking the time to check it out.
@@JKDandWingChun As Bruce Lee once said, "Good luck getting me to the ground."
Testa ..." Judo " Gene LeBell, Small Circle Jiu Jitsu creator Wally Jay and Pan American Judo champion 1964 and Olympic gold medalist Hayward Nishioka got Lee to the ground in an instant.
@@philosopher0076 What nonsense do you speak? They were not fighting or sparring, just teaching Lee the ground game.
Testa. During training they all knocked Lee on his ass. One example, Wally Jay: " One day we were training and I took out Bruce's leg and swept him hard. He went straight down and landed on the floor square on his behind. I thought he would be angry or upset that he got swept but as soon as his backside hit the floor, he just burst out laughing."
The biggest mistake is not learning Kenpo instead
Haha kempo..what a ioke
Wing Chun is a mistake if you try it in real fight
It can work in some situations quite well.
@@philosopher0076 yes. In one of those wing Chun dance class . I agree.
Ming Yuen. Really? Say that in front of Wing Chun practicioners such as Gary Lam, Keith Mazza or Francis Fong...and you might wake up in a hospital emergency room after they show you the Wing Chun " Two step ".
@@philosopher0076 I think this is where we are different, if I am fighting , I won't be doing any ' saying'. They talk about fighting them do some dancing.
Ming Yuen. Talk is cheap man. Where are your videos of you in your fighting or sparring glory? Nowhere right? That's what I thought.
The biggest mistake Win Chun fighters make is wasting there time, money and effort learning such a useless martial art .
Chief9-10 Wrong.
@@philosopher0076 LMFAO try it with me and I'll BREAK U OVER AND OVER AGAIN life is not a Bruce Lee movie try that GARBAGE in a real world situation and you most likely end up in a hospital if it's a fighter that REMOTELY knows how to fight
Chief9-10 Big mouth behind a keyboard. Hilarious and typical. Try your fighting prowess against streetfighters who are Wing Chun instructors such as Gary Lam, Keith Mazza etc., etc. Then try running your mouth, when you're on the floor spittin dice...or out cold.
@@philosopher0076 lmfao I've wrestled since I was 13 boxed the same and have been in Judo for 20 yrs WinChun is a secondary movie prop as far as I'm concerned tossed em slammed them and choked them and they NEVER wanted more lol WINCHUN IS FOR MOVIE FANS that have no idea what the REAL world has to OFFER. Idiots like you are going to get disillusioned people hurt If an idiot like you EVER got outta line with me you wld WAKE UP DEAD LOL
Chief9-10 .. Hey Fuckface. Heard it all before. Go to any of the aforementioned streetfighters who are also WC instructors for 30 years, try and start some shit with them, and see how many doctors have to put you back together...if you wake up at all. And I teach JKD and boxing and street self defense, not WC....but the men I mentioned, are very real "Chief".