This is literally THE best explanation of chi sau i have ever seen. It if somebody from outside the martial arts ever asks me about what i do i would show this video. It's put in such a way that anyone could understand
Hey Sifu, Thank you for making these videos! I’m learning on my own because I have no classes where I live I really appreciate them, Thank you 🙏 Brian Peace
Aaron looks a little shocked, surprised and dazed after the demonstration as if "Holly guacamole this stuff really works!" Thanks for sharing, great job 🤜🤛 Yes Aaron you deserve many of these👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Obviously the Wing Chun master had never sparred or trained against a one armed boxer before and was taken by complete surprise at this tactic used against him. It is still very difficult to win a fight against a none compliant opponent even for a master or if the opponent is only using one arm to box with, my bet is that the boxer was just trying to prove a point single handedly.
@ Jeremy. Learning Wing Chun is one thing using it to win fights is another, as their are many levels to this discipline similar to an onion. Noticeably there is a: 1) Movie Wing Chun based on fantasy and entertainment. 2) Historical Wing Chun based on past masters, that fought differently which is now mostly obsolete in the modern arenas. 3) Modified Wing Chun, by those that understand it well enough to use it to fit the situation be it MMA or on the street or Bruce Lee. 4) Imitation Wing Chun, that borrow from it but don't understand the cocepts and principles to apply it effectively. 5) Lazy Man Wing Chun kung fu, where the out of shape practioner using the effectiveness of direcrctness and economy of motion without the need for any type of athleticism. 6) Health and Fitness Wing Chun, for the feeling and sensitivity aspects that seems to belong to the slappy happy, patty cake system of fighting without fighting. 7) None Resistance & Compliant Wing Chun, continually practicing without momentum such as SLT, where chi sao is considered to be the sparring, where developing a false sense of security is maintained by only sparring against others in Wing Chun. 8) Conceptual Wing Chun, instead of developing the necessary skills from scientifically proven working methods of fighting that actually work, preferring to make up their own mind and methods of how Wing Chun should be. This is just my personal perception🤔
@@starshipdjs7524 I agree with you. There are many who trains Wing Chun, but few who truly understands the concepts, and unfortunately even fewer who can use it in application. Thank you for the summary. Well written.
@Will I have something of a truth serum where everything has been proved and tested that works or makes sense. Have broken down these ideas in to 2hr lessons. Hopefully you and others can find some inspiration from them. I can elaborate on any on them if requested✍ Lesson 1 Tap v Snap sport v reality TV scene change, then move, exercise Hip momentum v shoulder swinging, stay balanced Action Beats Reaction Lambagini v Steamroller, one slow one fast both can kill Flinch v Watching Stunning & Tension light touch vs heavy Kim vs Tom JKD Momentum SLT or the lack of Flank strategies Pad Work Is Defence Training Using Touch in realty practice Palm over Fist Not's Over Reaching or leaning causes lack of balance, move closer instead Over Stepping, causes lack of balance and stability, use smaller steps Dragging Weapons, keep it together, don't let things lag Moving or Stationary don't be a target be a weapon Don't lose sight of your hands, use peripheral vision Do's Making A Proper Fist, clenching, sliding, rolling fingers Picking Apples, bring hand back to starting position after striking Blind Side, keep away from rear power hand Keeping Balance & Structure with hips and sinking Angling is Posing & Creating angles Bug & Nose Squishing when striking Flat Fist Punching, street fighting Sand Castle Effect disrupt the opponent's plans Double Hip, can combine defence and offence Bearknukle Shifting Footwork Pointing Weapons at target, hands and feet Be weapon not target Lesson 2 Lazy hands, punch oneself, stiff hands get pushed back Maintaining True Boxer Stance Contact push block hit, horizontal up and down Fists in line with shoulders, lower the chin to match Flick the elbows faster punches Hook or Roll finish jab jab jab Punch by #s with playing cards1 to 8 Using fakes shoulder hands knee elbow head stepping Circling the blind side Getting pulled out of the true boxer stance, loses balance Small pivots big pivots depends on opponent Maintaining proper distance Front leg combos or rear leg instead of swinging left & right Steel sharpens steel diamonds cut diamonds Don't keep hands up in a totally defensive mode Boxer & Grappler doing the same practice makes perfect Small hinges move big doors Taking The Centre Line Left Right Centre Move correctly not anything else When hitting B first B last B gone Entering Infighting Exiting Attacking Or Controlling Opponents Balance and Structure Lines of attack and defence No fake fighting Invisible techniques Shadow boxing & Shadow defending Countering vs defending? Drills makes skills that kills Punch with venom Form creates power One move is half of the next Always Move for the Advantage Every movement is made to one's own advantage Fill gaps with strikes Stop Struggling Start Dominating Point of origin striking A good offence cannot be countered only defended 52 Blocks variety Windshield wiper transition blocks Safe n Sound defence practice Shadow box without punching One hand home one hand out Chained in practice Unchained in fight 52Blocks: Raise the bridge Tap back of head Tap the elbow Brush the shoulder The bird Skull and Crossbones The crown Stack the deck Clap the hands Houdini Down town Lesson 4 Catch Bullets The Bird variations Philly Shell Shoe Shine Salute Waving Windshield wipers Bank robber Chop Blocks variations Slapping Parrying variations Flicking Fists Backhands variations Clap hands Closed door covering Open door covering Peek a Boo Temple Triangle, Muay Thai Spearing Close Sash Window Open Sash Window B Touched & Strike Touch opponent & Strike Defending Touch Self & Strike Trap & strike Home made hanging Speed Bag: hammer/backfist/full knuckles Home made hanging Focus and Timing tennis ball/hit & move Half man jab, side on, stretching out Full facing jab, close in fighting True boxing stance, where all punches and kicks can be used Attacking or Defending weighted one leg principle Attacking usually weighted front leg Defending usually weighted rear leg Attacking or Defending using both legs Punching horizontal bars on different levels JKD Punching combinations: double & triple Head & Tale of Snake/fist & elbow Thrive in discomfort Get out of your own comfort zone and disrupt his With all card tricks the hand is quicker than the eye Feet before Fists Stay loose & ready Attacking Intercepting Evading Be Touched & Strike Touch opponent & Strike Defending Touch Self First & Strike Trap & Strike Direct Leaking Attacks No Touch Chop Blocks variations Slapping Parrying variations Flicking Fists Backhands variations Realistic Neutral Hands & karate blocks variations Trapping variations Pivot L R front foot Pivot L R rear foot Stepping F B L R Stepping off Angles Circling Facing Stepping Stepping Walking F B Skipping F B L R Jumping F B L R Step n drag Ali Shuffle Back Peddling Pressure fighter makes the opponent uncomfortable keep doing it. psychological pressure without doing anything, when it is time, do it for real. Slipping Sliding/Hippy Jerky/Come in low/Inching close/Far away probing/Close but out of range/lots of fakes/none stop punches/powerful punches/slow explode/always counter no matter what/ Five moves method practice, striking back from awkward position Knockout the radar, slap to the ear, two punch then use a hard slap Versatile boxing is where it is at, learn from everyone Avancee, Attack starts quickly to the nearest target hand box or knife Lesson 6 Newton's Cradle Egg Timer In The Bin Snow Flake Grinding Machine Jet Lag Butterfly Effect 90 180 360 Fairies and Gorillas Fulcrum Wedges Leverage Internal focus vs external focus Internal defence vs external defence Internal muscular contraction tension awareness External musculal relaxation extension awareness Using the power of Intent and awareness, with focus being expressed internally or externally with contraction or relaxation in movement. There is a middle neutral ground starting point, being slightly relaxed and tense but ready. As Yin/Yang bo Where defence and offence, could be better achieved by using tension or relaxation, depending on the circumstances. 5 elements wing chun Wood = Straight Limbs Fire = Tips Change Metal = Heavy Compact Water = Flow Softness Earth = Supporting/Gravity Mountain/Rock = Momentum Thunder = Power Lightning = Speed Lake = Stillness/Reflection/Mirroring Timing Speed Power Balance Accuracy Precision Endurance Intent Lesson 8 Skip step Reset. L down R across L up Open door & go in lap da Faster Punch from the chin Faster think faster, clap hands 1 2 Faster punches use momentum of footwork with hands Faster punches by under commiting them Faster combos with a little less power Faster, Shorten up punches Faster punches relax upper body Faster arm naturally swings like when running Elbow in when doing a stiff jab Choking the jab with a mit, Stopping full extension Shotgun sounding jab Pouring water out of cup jab elbow Slipping from Head /Waist/Legs Peek a boo slipping using straight punches Lesson 9 Fulcrum attack, Defanging the snake, limb destruction Slow down play the pauses with music and boxing Front and rear foot importance attack and defence Pivot falling not leaning and actually move the foot 45 toe to heel boxing stance Spears and axes tall and small fighters Philly Shell, lead with shoulder, line up pointing with shoulder Philly coffin no posing Fight all possible battles in your mind first, then will never b surprised Reciprocal inhibition stretching using opposite muscles Diving vs Driving when walking or sparring Consistency beats intensity, over estimating and underestimating Wherby expecting quick results that take time to achieve. Feelings vs Facts, expect to get hit but keep going Glove Gate dirty boxing Dont move on defence but move on attack this maintains distance when training Bouncing v Sitting when striking Staying still keeping balance Sticks & fists generating power Techniques Principle Concepts elbow down, beautiful gift Steam train engine Timing with beats v broken rythem Out In to deep water stamina Lesson 10 Wax on n off Onion Learning in layers 5 Ways Of Attack: SDA.ABC.ABD.PIA.HIA Single direct, by combination by drawing progressive indirect, hand immobolization 5 Lines Of Defence: hands elbows feet shoulder head plus attitude 5 Attack Elements: Intention Preparation Delivery Completion Recovery Wip v Stick String Theory keeping proper distance Reference Points Double weightedness Pressure Testing Wedge Principles Yin Yang neutral Telegraphing Shotgun Dispersing Effect vs Triangulating Focus Pads theory Body Absorb Taking A Hit Vertical Horizontal Diagonal Fist All fists Elbow drills Move like matrix hollow body Onions many layers to SLT Paddle with tide go with flow Picking Up Rocks use what works Pick up a branch use what you have Self Defence Reaction Attack Eye Groin Knee Challenge Danger Comfort Zones move for the advatage Maintain Calm over fight n flight Pivot when they are committed Shoulder role swing upward hammer fist 3 phase defense Reflex Deflect Intercept Law of attraction & distraction? Magnet Hands and Feet Save energy on heavy bag when striking by not digging in Move and counter Running is Running Provoke & attack to get a response & counter attack Throw a reverse puch when closer not further away Small v big window more difficult to be hit n easier to score Shoe shine 3 up 1 hok Myomoto Musashi Turn the opponent n strike Raking striking Precision power timing speed Pivot v straight Elusive Watch energy motion And more ... 🤜Here being a Wing Chun man but not limited buy it in any way🤛
@@starshipdjs7524 Ah the good ol' "These Wing Chun masters are fakes, my Wing Chun is real!" argument. Gotta love it. Are you gonna promise us if we practice for 5 years it will work automatically like instinct when the time comes? Can't wait for that!
Ving Tsun is based on forward pressure on the enemies center of gravity and rotation. Aikido is based on evading and manipulating the enemy around his center ov gravity and rotation. That is why they dont work very well together. But it works quite well with BJJ.
That was amazing. Thanks for sharing. It gives me a lot of ideas to work with. Good to see what better and more experienced people than me are doing. I'll have to find one of those mattress things to buy and experiment with slamming people around.
Sifu J just straight busting the FUNG HAO.. real quick. Your sons looking diesel bro.. you explained that “What do I do in the entry thing” real nice. We hit. If we crash 💥 that’s where the shapes come into play..🧠
This and that recent video on the Wooden Dummy seem good because you see techniques that almost will immediately shut down an attacker. Some folks talk about learning forms without being able to immediately apply them. Granted there's some perfection of timing that must be cultivated. I don't know. Is a rear naked choke, if successfully applied, more merciful than a punch or palm strike to the face? I guess one has to quickly assess the level of danger they are in and decide what is necessary to do to ensure their own safety. The attacker has made the mistake of engaging a fight and our only job is to stop it as quickly as possible. I probably answered my own question. Thanks again team GAMA.
one question does Wing Chun good for self-defense and street fighting just like Shaolin Kung Fu but it all depends on the practitioner and you can learn it at any age
Jeremy Mitchell If that’s the case for you, then change instructors. WC absolutely works in real unscripted fights. The problem with a lot of WC is that karate exponents drifted across and opened schools and either weren’t taught properly ie: how it fights, or just tried to apply karate or boxing approaches which come close’ish but are definitely not how it works. I’m sure that what you see on this channel is not what is really taught in his school. WC is vicious, hence why it works on the street. It’s ask no quarter, take no quarter. If you take the attitude that you are smaller, weaker and less physically able, then you’ll start to view the system in a different way. Look for angles and how to create them. WC is full of hints on how this is done, as the old pugs would say, “if you ain’t there, you can’t get hit”. Last hint, don’t get suckered in to striking at a moving target, look to where they are going and strike there - this is another way to be fast. Just a viewpoint.
Of course they do. 99% of schools are bad or have nothing to do with ving tsun. Ip Man failed to teach all his students well enough and after decades it got watered down. We can be glad he had students like WSL who trained hard and tested himself.
@@petrihaikio7002 Yes, there are pros and cons. Both underestimates and overestimates, but the topic this time is how many people underestimate Wing Chun even though they don't know anything about it. Something that is excessive is not good, and it is overestimating. But underestimates are much worse cz its like insulting, even though in fact those who think like that do not know anything. And ironically, if the topic this time "underestimates" .. do you say that many "overestimates" of wing chun this time indicate that you are also one of the people who underestimate wing chun too? If that is true and for the reasons of many overestimates you are no different from them. Just as stupid as those who underestimate the brain without knowledge and as stupid as those who overestimate in something too. But in my opinion, however, the one that shows the most ignorance is people with underestimates without knowing what it is for the purpose of hating it and demeaning it. I hope that's not what you mean bro..
@@petrihaikio7002 One more thing if you say that the overestimates come from movie action fans. I think that's only natural cz it shows that wing chun is very high in artistic value. But that doesn't mean wing chun is too dependent on art so that wing chun is considered useless, and only in action movies can it be cool isn't that.. that's what I mean. Overestimating is wrong and if you already know, don't reply with an underestimate too, it shows that you are just as stupid as they are..
A couple questions for Jason and Aaron Could you expand in detail about what is meant by boxing is too daring, because I think I know the answer but I don't know that I know the answer. Secondly, Wing Chuns other criticism has been that no one is just going to stand there and let you do that. This is because a lot of Wing Chun is taught going into three four five six different trapping combinations becomes a sort of Patty Cake contest. There is still a Jeet involved that is rarely demonstrated. Could you expand upon that?
Too daring because boxing for self defense in a street fight assumes fair fighting. For example, like getting grabbed and thrown into a trash can, and then punched in the back of the head as you try to stand up. I think the speed at which he demonstrates these moves is proof that Aaron isn't just letting him do the move. Just my two cents. Take care!
great video no doubt - however here is a point - this stuff only works if you have enough explosiveness in your strikes, for you to be able to be hurt your opponent enough from that range. You dont have to have Bruce lee explosiveness but you should have enough explosiveness and most people dont have that. Hence the boxing range and the wrestling tie or Ju Jitsu are more effective for the MASSES. (of course if u have enough explosiveness than you can pull this off and you will beat the whole world.....)
@@wilfordgrimley4339 to be fair lap sao and chi sao basically set up for all the quick starting finishers so hes not entirely wrong so unless you take chi sao and lap sao especially out it kind of is a striking system that relies off the one grapple to help you get that upper center strike to help off balance them so you can pummel them
@@dr.dylansgame5583 trapping and grappling arent the same. Theres some good stand up wrestling in the second and third forms but its the farthest thing from a grappling system. 90 percent of wing chun practitioners arent sparring realistically or training realistically either. Thats where comments like thus come from.
@@wilfordgrimley4339 I know and it pains me because as someone who does it makes my art feel like a joke also I'm one of those wierd people who lumps them all together grappling wrestling and throwing while there each different are kind of going for the same thing sure wrestling with rules isnt going for a takedown but in the streets that's a different story also it doesnt help that the actual real masters who had skill couldn't train all there students well and as it got passed down this watered it down so far to what it is now to the point it makes me depressed cause there are very few people who could teach me any further outside of sharpening the moves there I mean sure my lap sao and chi sao are garbage but all they honestly really do is open for offense which I'm very defensively oriented
Chi sau is just to train your hands to where to go. If you are doing chi sau you have your steering wheel. When you cross the centerline you turn back and have your steering wheel again your two hands make the figure 8 or yin yang. Its a common theme in wing chun, like in sil nim tao, complex trapping etc.. each part is a learning tool in chi sau you first learn pun sau and void lock so obviously your chi sau is a training tool to learn how to avoid being caught in a void lock and how to apply them which is a common theme in chi sau. Where in sil nim tao you learn all the parts of complex trapping then you learn complex trapping. So obviously sil nim tao is a tool to learn how to apply complex trapping and how to avoid it. In bil jee you learn how to regain the centerline, so obviously its a tool to learn how to attack the centerline and how to avoid centerline attacks. In chum kil you learn how to bridge so obviously chum kil is how to use the bridge to attack and how to keep from being attacked from the bridge. All the forms have a secret application like that but each person learns the forms and there not always the same but the training for each is a exchange and by studying the form you come to an understanding of it. Each form is the same movements with different perspectives. By learning the perspective of the form its wing chun whether or not it looks identical to what you were taught. I see people all the time take things off corse with weird outside techniques and something that doesn't fit into tan bong gum gan pak lap fook jut jong palm and I have to say the same thing i heard a million times when in formal study "return to the system". That ment you didn't follow the structure of wing chun. Wing chun is a very exacting art that follows the movements of the yin yang particularly the yin power arc or if you layed the symbol on its side with the black part on top either way left or right you always end up going up on the outside down on the inside. And that way if you look at your chi sau your jut would go up on the outside across your body, your fook would gan downward on the inside etc... Anyway liked the video just thought I'd throw a monkey wrench into your comments.
Anthony Chu commenting on mistakes to avoid isn’t “bashing” the art. It’s objectivity. We provide pros and cons and let the discerning viewer make up their mind from there. Thanks for watching.
I think these MMA keyboard teenage warriors and a lot of beef head MMA wannabes don't get martial arts at all. All systems are artificial man made. To be a true martial artist study the martial way. Cross train in a wide variety of systems, keep what is is useful to you, add it to your arsenal and forget what doesn't work for you. Become a better martial artist and learn the skills that MA instructers such as the 2 Sifu in this video are teaching you for free in their own time. Have some respect and realise that no martial art is superior, it is the fighter / martial artist at end of day. I think pulling some of this stuff off at speed would be difficult against a fast punching boxer however, not impossible if you are trained and know what you are doing.
I disagree. If no martial art is superior, then it would be all random which style you take as all would form you into equally good fighter, but the reality is that wc is never a strong performer in any setting, nor is Tai Chi. You tend to see the strong performers originate from a select set of styles. And no, the answer is not style, but how you train, who you can test your skills against and at how much resistance. As long all styles do not do full contact fights then some styles will always be superior. Use what works, disgard what does not...fine, how do you figure out what works if you never get to bust the ribs of your opponents?
@@petrihaikio7002 it's not random which martial art you take. Martial arts have developed over the centuries since people started fighting each other. Japan most of their martial arts come from Samurai post Samurai times. Swordsmen. Therefore, how to use a samurai sword and master it evolved in Japan. If you could ask a samurai whether he has tested his art, he has done it in battle. Philopines Kali escrima started through tribes fighting each other with weapons. Silat, the same. These arts have been tested in battle and that cannot be denied. You don't have to stab soomeone with a kerambit to know that a stabbing technique works. It's common sense. There are whole systems built around technique proven in combat over hundreds of years. The point is that it is not random, martial arts evolve geographically to suit a purpose that is being faced or a situation being faced at the time. They are all artificial but all are created and evolved for a purpose at the time. Muai Thai was, TKD was. These are hard style martial arts. Then there are th do martial arts. I belive do means way or path and is internal martial art. Yes it's is how you train, so my initial point is valid take what works and fits your personal style. BJJ on the other hand started because old man Gracie kept getting put on his arse. Go to a battle and watch warriors wrestling with each other on the floor. Never happened. The floor meant death. Different times in history, different locations, started for different purposes.
@@deadmansswitch2748 Common sense is often times a fallacy. The only way to prove something works is to try it out in reality. By this line of thinking there are literally arguments that these things *don't* work because they have not been seen to work in reality for us. Imagine that those stabbing techniques were modified, but never tested in reality. That technique is now unproven. If that technique continues to be modified, it has the potential to get further and further from a proven, reality driven technique. The major issue with MA's is their efficacy and how they are being displayed to people. If Wing Chun is being displayed as effective in a combat situation, but it is not (which it commonly shows to not be when tested in reality). It becomes unreasonable to consider it when compared to tested Fighting Systems. Spirituality in MA's are a completely different subject, and I don't really give a shit if you get off doing hand movements, more power too you.
@@deadmansswitch2748 samurai was a social rank and was inherited, most samurai that ever lived, lived at times of peace and never drew blood, many never even knew martial arts or knew how to fight, you did not become samurai by war, but by birth, it seems that most never understood this part of being a samurai. As for random... If you have 100 people taking 100 different martial arts for five years and then meet for a fight, one vs one. Chances are higher that MMA will win than that Tai Chi will win, even without rules. It has not all too much to do with technique as is it about realistic training, it is less about techniques and it is more about resistance training against talented opponents. Wing chun does poorly in all out fights, it got crushed in the early days of mma where all was allowed, same happened to a lot of styles..and it is not becouse WC is bad, it is simply trained in unrealistic ways, WC is great against WC but as soon someone does not do the sticky hands but simply lifts you off the ground and slams you headfirst into it again, WC is helpless...because it does not train for that. Even against striking arts, muy thai crushes WC even on mere durability a punch that a muy thaier would barely notice could drop a WC fighter, again not because WC is bad, but because WC does not spar to toughen up the body. So it is not random who wins, the styles who allow YOU to go to war (in a ring) are far better than styles that were used at war but does not allow YOU a chance to fight (in a ring)
Useful concepts but it'd be interesting to see them in actual application with a martial artist of another discipline, e.g. wrestling, who wouldn't try chi sao first
Check out Adam Chan he demonstrates wing chun very well..rolling in chi sau is just an exercise....what the true benefit that this exercise generates is sensitivity and knowledge.
You most likely wouldn't be able to pull it off in a match. It's rare to see wing chun applications in an mma situation. In the ring, wing chun loses to most other styles.
JESUS told me if you use this for him, your knowledge will greatly increase.. The same year Bruce Lee denied JESUS, he DIED... 🤔 JESUS is LORD,and KING of KINGS, AMEN!!!
I'll save all of the negative hypotheticals, and simply ask, what makes you (teacher) qualified to teach the application of violence as a tool? How many times have you seen the elephant?
Thank you for showing actual applications for chi sao.
This is literally THE best explanation of chi sau i have ever seen. It if somebody from outside the martial arts ever asks me about what i do i would show this video. It's put in such a way that anyone could understand
Awesome video! Totally demonstrates that in close power. Devastating.
Were any Aarons hurt making this video? "Absolutely not", says Aaron, in the hope that he wont get hurt again... :P
Hey Sifu,
Thank you for making these videos!
I’m learning on my own because I have no classes where I live
I really appreciate them,
Thank you 🙏
Brian Peace
I really enjoyed the demonstration of the techniques. I could see the soft and hard techniques. Awesome stuff.
riversidetaichi thanks for watching. 🙏
One of the best explanations on chi-sao. Thanks!
@@SherwinChow-cg3nw thanks for watching.
Aaron looks a little shocked, surprised and dazed after the demonstration as if "Holly guacamole this stuff really works!" Thanks for sharing, great job 🤜🤛 Yes Aaron you deserve many of these👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Obviously the Wing Chun master had never sparred or trained against a one armed boxer before and was taken by complete surprise at this tactic used against him. It is still very difficult to win a fight against a none compliant opponent even for a master or if the opponent is only using one arm to box with, my bet is that the boxer was just trying to prove a point single handedly.
@ Jeremy. Learning Wing Chun is one thing using it to win fights is another, as their are many levels to this discipline similar to an onion.
Noticeably there is a:
1) Movie Wing Chun based on fantasy and entertainment.
2) Historical Wing Chun based on past masters, that fought differently which is now mostly obsolete in the modern arenas.
3) Modified Wing Chun, by those that understand it well enough to use it to fit the situation be it MMA or on the street or Bruce Lee.
4) Imitation Wing Chun, that borrow from it but don't understand the cocepts and principles to apply it effectively.
5) Lazy Man Wing Chun kung fu, where the out of shape practioner using the effectiveness of direcrctness and economy of motion without the need for any type of athleticism.
6) Health and Fitness Wing Chun, for the feeling and sensitivity aspects that seems to belong to the slappy happy, patty cake system of fighting without fighting.
7) None Resistance & Compliant Wing Chun, continually practicing without momentum such as SLT, where chi sao is considered to be the sparring, where developing a false sense of security is maintained by only sparring against others in Wing Chun.
8) Conceptual Wing Chun, instead of developing the necessary skills from scientifically proven working methods of fighting that actually work, preferring to make up their own mind and methods of how Wing Chun should be.
This is just my personal perception🤔
@@starshipdjs7524 I agree with you. There are many who trains Wing Chun, but few who truly understands the concepts, and unfortunately even fewer who can use it in application. Thank you for the summary. Well written.
@Will
I have something of a truth serum where everything has been proved and tested that works or makes sense. Have broken down these ideas in to 2hr lessons. Hopefully you and others can find some inspiration from them. I can elaborate on any on them if requested✍
Lesson 1
Tap v Snap sport v reality
TV scene change, then move, exercise
Hip momentum v shoulder swinging, stay balanced
Action Beats Reaction
Lambagini v Steamroller, one slow one fast both can kill
Flinch v Watching Stunning & Tension light touch vs heavy
Kim vs Tom JKD
Momentum SLT or the lack of
Flank strategies
Pad Work Is Defence Training
Using Touch in realty practice Palm over Fist
Not's
Over Reaching or leaning causes lack of balance, move closer instead
Over Stepping, causes lack of balance and stability, use smaller steps
Dragging Weapons, keep it together, don't let things lag
Moving or Stationary don't be a target be a weapon
Don't lose sight of your hands, use peripheral vision
Do's
Making A Proper Fist, clenching, sliding, rolling fingers
Picking Apples, bring hand back to starting position after striking
Blind Side, keep away from rear power hand
Keeping Balance & Structure with hips and sinking
Angling is Posing & Creating angles
Bug & Nose Squishing when striking
Flat Fist Punching, street fighting
Sand Castle Effect disrupt the opponent's plans
Double Hip, can combine defence and offence
Bearknukle Shifting Footwork
Pointing Weapons at target, hands and feet
Be weapon not target
Lesson 2
Lazy hands, punch oneself, stiff hands get pushed back
Maintaining True Boxer Stance
Contact push block hit, horizontal up and down
Fists in line with shoulders, lower the chin to match
Flick the elbows faster punches
Hook or Roll finish jab jab jab
Punch by #s with playing cards1 to 8
Using fakes shoulder hands knee elbow head stepping
Circling the blind side
Getting pulled out of the true boxer stance, loses balance
Small pivots big pivots depends on opponent
Maintaining proper distance
Front leg combos or rear leg instead of swinging left & right
Steel sharpens steel diamonds cut diamonds
Don't keep hands up in a totally defensive mode
Boxer & Grappler doing the same practice makes perfect
Small hinges move big doors
Taking The Centre Line Left Right Centre
Move correctly not anything else
When hitting B first B last B gone
Entering Infighting Exiting
Attacking Or Controlling Opponents Balance and Structure
Lines of attack and defence
No fake fighting
Invisible techniques
Shadow boxing & Shadow defending
Countering vs defending?
Drills makes skills that kills
Punch with venom
Form creates power
One move is half of the next
Always Move for the Advantage
Every movement is made to one's own advantage
Fill gaps with strikes
Stop Struggling Start Dominating
Point of origin striking
A good offence cannot be countered only defended
52 Blocks variety
Windshield wiper transition blocks
Safe n Sound defence practice Shadow box without punching
One hand home one hand out
Chained in practice Unchained in fight
52Blocks:
Raise the bridge
Tap back of head
Tap the elbow
Brush the shoulder
The bird
Skull and Crossbones
The crown
Stack the deck
Clap the hands
Houdini
Down town
Lesson 4
Catch Bullets
The Bird variations
Philly Shell
Shoe Shine
Salute
Waving
Windshield wipers
Bank robber
Chop Blocks variations
Slapping Parrying variations
Flicking Fists Backhands variations
Clap hands
Closed door covering
Open door covering
Peek a Boo
Temple Triangle, Muay Thai
Spearing
Close Sash Window
Open Sash Window
B Touched & Strike
Touch opponent & Strike
Defending Touch Self & Strike
Trap & strike
Home made hanging Speed Bag: hammer/backfist/full knuckles
Home made hanging Focus and Timing tennis ball/hit & move
Half man jab, side on, stretching out
Full facing jab, close in fighting
True boxing stance, where all punches and kicks can be used
Attacking or Defending weighted one leg principle
Attacking usually weighted front leg
Defending usually weighted rear leg
Attacking or Defending using both legs
Punching horizontal bars on different levels
JKD Punching combinations: double & triple
Head & Tale of Snake/fist & elbow
Thrive in discomfort
Get out of your own comfort zone and disrupt his
With all card tricks the hand is quicker than the eye
Feet before Fists
Stay loose & ready
Attacking Intercepting Evading
Be Touched & Strike
Touch opponent & Strike
Defending Touch Self First & Strike
Trap & Strike
Direct Leaking Attacks No Touch
Chop Blocks variations
Slapping Parrying variations
Flicking Fists Backhands variations
Realistic Neutral Hands & karate blocks variations
Trapping variations
Pivot L R front foot
Pivot L R rear foot
Stepping F B L R
Stepping off Angles
Circling Facing Stepping
Stepping Walking F B
Skipping F B L R
Jumping F B L R
Step n drag
Ali Shuffle
Back Peddling
Pressure fighter makes the opponent uncomfortable keep doing it. psychological pressure without doing anything, when it is time, do it for real.
Slipping Sliding/Hippy Jerky/Come in low/Inching close/Far away probing/Close but out of range/lots of fakes/none stop punches/powerful punches/slow explode/always counter no matter what/
Five moves method practice, striking back from awkward position
Knockout the radar, slap to the ear, two punch then use a hard slap
Versatile boxing is where it is at, learn from everyone
Avancee, Attack starts quickly to the nearest target hand box or knife
Lesson 6
Newton's Cradle
Egg Timer
In The Bin
Snow Flake
Grinding Machine
Jet Lag
Butterfly Effect
90 180 360
Fairies and Gorillas
Fulcrum
Wedges
Leverage
Internal focus vs external focus
Internal defence vs external defence
Internal muscular contraction tension awareness
External musculal relaxation extension awareness
Using the power of Intent and awareness, with focus being expressed internally or externally with contraction or relaxation in movement.
There is a middle neutral ground starting point, being slightly relaxed and tense but ready.
As Yin/Yang bo
Where defence and offence, could be better achieved by using tension or relaxation, depending on the circumstances.
5 elements wing chun
Wood = Straight Limbs
Fire = Tips Change
Metal = Heavy Compact
Water = Flow Softness
Earth = Supporting/Gravity
Mountain/Rock = Momentum
Thunder = Power
Lightning = Speed
Lake = Stillness/Reflection/Mirroring
Timing
Speed
Power
Balance
Accuracy
Precision
Endurance
Intent
Lesson 8
Skip step Reset. L down R across L up
Open door & go in lap da
Faster Punch from the chin
Faster think faster, clap hands 1 2
Faster punches use momentum of footwork with hands
Faster punches by under commiting them
Faster combos with a little less power
Faster, Shorten up punches
Faster punches relax upper body
Faster arm naturally swings like when running
Elbow in when doing a stiff jab
Choking the jab with a mit, Stopping full extension
Shotgun sounding jab
Pouring water out of cup jab elbow
Slipping from Head /Waist/Legs
Peek a boo slipping using straight punches
Lesson 9
Fulcrum attack, Defanging the snake, limb destruction
Slow down play the pauses with music and boxing
Front and rear foot importance attack and defence
Pivot falling not leaning and actually move the foot
45 toe to heel boxing stance
Spears and axes tall and small fighters
Philly Shell, lead with shoulder, line up pointing with shoulder
Philly coffin no posing
Fight all possible battles in your mind first, then will never b surprised
Reciprocal inhibition stretching using opposite muscles
Diving vs Driving when walking or sparring
Consistency beats intensity, over estimating and underestimating
Wherby expecting quick results that take time to achieve.
Feelings vs Facts, expect to get hit but keep going
Glove Gate dirty boxing
Dont move on defence but move on attack this maintains distance when training
Bouncing v Sitting when striking
Staying still keeping balance
Sticks & fists generating power
Techniques Principle Concepts elbow down, beautiful gift
Steam train engine
Timing with beats v broken rythem
Out In to deep water stamina
Lesson 10
Wax on n off
Onion Learning in layers
5 Ways Of Attack: SDA.ABC.ABD.PIA.HIA
Single direct, by combination by drawing progressive indirect, hand immobolization
5 Lines Of Defence: hands elbows feet shoulder head plus attitude
5 Attack Elements: Intention Preparation Delivery Completion Recovery
Wip v Stick
String Theory keeping proper distance
Reference Points
Double weightedness
Pressure Testing
Wedge Principles
Yin Yang neutral
Telegraphing
Shotgun Dispersing Effect vs Triangulating
Focus Pads theory Body Absorb Taking A Hit
Vertical Horizontal Diagonal Fist All fists
Elbow drills
Move like matrix hollow body
Onions many layers to SLT
Paddle with tide go with flow
Picking Up Rocks use what works
Pick up a branch use what you have
Self Defence Reaction Attack Eye Groin Knee
Challenge Danger Comfort Zones move for the advatage
Maintain Calm over fight n flight
Pivot when they are committed
Shoulder role swing upward hammer fist
3 phase defense Reflex Deflect Intercept
Law of attraction & distraction?
Magnet Hands and Feet
Save energy on heavy bag when striking by not digging in
Move and counter Running is Running
Provoke & attack to get a response & counter attack
Throw a reverse puch when closer not further away
Small v big window more difficult to be hit n easier to score
Shoe shine 3 up 1 hok
Myomoto Musashi
Turn the opponent n strike Raking striking
Precision power timing speed
Pivot v straight
Elusive
Watch energy motion
And more ...
🤜Here being a Wing Chun man but not limited buy it in any way🤛
@@starshipdjs7524 Ah the good ol' "These Wing Chun masters are fakes, my Wing Chun is real!" argument. Gotta love it. Are you gonna promise us if we practice for 5 years it will work automatically like instinct when the time comes? Can't wait for that!
I like these idea's, and then mix this with Aikido, especially in a rough environment. Wow.
Aikido & Wing Chun are both based on the sword, which is why they are complementary.
Ving Tsun is based on forward pressure on the enemies center of gravity and rotation. Aikido is based on evading and manipulating the enemy around his center ov gravity and rotation. That is why they dont work very well together.
But it works quite well with BJJ.
Sounds like jakie chan
Yes I enjoyed that ! I just enrolled in Wing Chun last night ! That's how much I enjoyed it
Yes, I did enjoy it!
That was amazing. Thanks for sharing. It gives me a lot of ideas to work with. Good to see what better and more experienced people than me are doing. I'll have to find one of those mattress things to buy and experiment with slamming people around.
Funny coincidence, you were talking about bad positions and ended up with a bong sau for example 😊 great job sifu jason. Greetings from dpwslvt
Sifu J just straight busting the FUNG HAO.. real quick. Your sons looking diesel bro.. you explained that “What do I do in the entry thing” real nice. We hit. If we crash 💥 that’s where the shapes come into play..🧠
This and that recent video on the Wooden Dummy seem good because you see techniques that almost will immediately shut down an attacker. Some folks talk about learning forms without being able to immediately apply them. Granted there's some perfection of timing that must be cultivated. I don't know. Is a rear naked choke, if successfully applied, more merciful than a punch or palm strike to the face? I guess one has to quickly assess the level of danger they are in and decide what is necessary to do to ensure their own safety. The attacker has made the mistake of engaging a fight and our only job is to stop it as quickly as possible. I probably answered my own question. Thanks again team GAMA.
Hi ; sifu jason , does wing chun have shulder and knee strikes ?
And another qustion is how to use wing chun foot work in an mma fight?
one question does Wing Chun good for self-defense and street fighting just like Shaolin Kung Fu but it all depends on the practitioner and you can learn it at any age
Jeremy Mitchell If that’s the case for you, then change instructors. WC absolutely works in real unscripted fights. The problem with a lot of WC is that karate exponents drifted across and opened schools and either weren’t taught properly ie: how it fights, or just tried to apply karate or boxing approaches which come close’ish but are definitely not how it works.
I’m sure that what you see on this channel is not what is really taught in his school. WC is vicious, hence why it works on the street. It’s ask no quarter, take no quarter. If you take the attitude that you are smaller, weaker and less physically able, then you’ll start to view the system in a different way. Look for angles and how to create them. WC is full of hints on how this is done, as the old pugs would say, “if you ain’t there, you can’t get hit”. Last hint, don’t get suckered in to striking at a moving target, look to where they are going and strike there - this is another way to be fast.
Just a viewpoint.
Love this vid
5:35 DI JONG first move on the dummy
Great video, close quarters combat is more realistic then people think.
first viewer and comment❤️ keep it up sifu
SAiTAMA there ought to be a prize for that. Lol. But seriously, thanks for watching
good stuff
People underestimate wing chun,these days. Especially the mma coaches.
Of course they do. 99% of schools are bad or have nothing to do with ving tsun. Ip Man failed to teach all his students well enough and after decades it got watered down.
We can be glad he had students like WSL who trained hard and tested himself.
If they ever could beat an mma fighter. Before that happens, its hard to convince.
People overestimate wing chun, specially action movie fans.
@@petrihaikio7002 Yes, there are pros and cons. Both underestimates and overestimates, but the topic this time is how many people underestimate Wing Chun even though they don't know anything about it. Something that is excessive is not good, and it is overestimating. But underestimates are much worse cz its like insulting, even though in fact those who think like that do not know anything. And ironically, if the topic this time "underestimates" .. do you say that many "overestimates" of wing chun this time indicate that you are also one of the people who underestimate wing chun too? If that is true and for the reasons of many overestimates you are no different from them. Just as stupid as those who underestimate the brain without knowledge and as stupid as those who overestimate in something too. But in my opinion, however, the one that shows the most ignorance is people with underestimates without knowing what it is for the purpose of hating it and demeaning it. I hope that's not what you mean bro..
@@petrihaikio7002 One more thing if you say that the overestimates come from movie action fans. I think that's only natural cz it shows that wing chun is very high in artistic value. But that doesn't mean wing chun is too dependent on art so that wing chun is considered useless, and only in action movies can it be cool isn't that.. that's what I mean. Overestimating is wrong and if you already know, don't reply with an underestimate too, it shows that you are just as stupid as they are..
Are you sure its worthing to spend time in WT or its better to trained in something like kickboxing or karate, i mean more simpler than WT.
A couple questions for Jason and Aaron
Could you expand in detail about what is meant by boxing is too daring, because I think I know the answer but I don't know that I know the answer.
Secondly, Wing Chuns other criticism has been that no one is just going to stand there and let you do that.
This is because a lot of Wing Chun is taught going into three four five six different trapping combinations becomes a sort of Patty Cake contest.
There is still a Jeet involved that is rarely demonstrated.
Could you expand upon that?
Too daring because boxing for self defense in a street fight assumes fair fighting. For example, like getting grabbed and thrown into a trash can, and then punched in the back of the head as you try to stand up.
I think the speed at which he demonstrates these moves is proof that Aaron isn't just letting him do the move.
Just my two cents. Take care!
great video no doubt - however here is a point - this stuff only works if you have enough explosiveness in your strikes, for you to be able to be hurt your opponent enough from that range. You dont have to have Bruce lee explosiveness but you should have enough explosiveness and most people dont have that. Hence the boxing range and the wrestling tie or Ju Jitsu are more effective for the MASSES.
(of course if u have enough explosiveness than you can pull this off and you will beat the whole world.....)
To me, wing chun is a grappling fight system.
Fantastic comment. I always saw it that way as well. Dope system for sure.
Then you haven't been paying enough attention
@@wilfordgrimley4339 to be fair lap sao and chi sao basically set up for all the quick starting finishers so hes not entirely wrong so unless you take chi sao and lap sao especially out it kind of is a striking system that relies off the one grapple to help you get that upper center strike to help off balance them so you can pummel them
@@dr.dylansgame5583 trapping and grappling arent the same. Theres some good stand up wrestling in the second and third forms but its the farthest thing from a grappling system. 90 percent of wing chun practitioners arent sparring realistically or training realistically either. Thats where comments like thus come from.
@@wilfordgrimley4339 I know and it pains me because as someone who does it makes my art feel like a joke also I'm one of those wierd people who lumps them all together grappling wrestling and throwing while there each different are kind of going for the same thing sure wrestling with rules isnt going for a takedown but in the streets that's a different story also it doesnt help that the actual real masters who had skill couldn't train all there students well and as it got passed down this watered it down so far to what it is now to the point it makes me depressed cause there are very few people who could teach me any further outside of sharpening the moves there I mean sure my lap sao and chi sao are garbage but all they honestly really do is open for offense which I'm very defensively oriented
Great 👍 👍👍👍👍
I need physical lessons doe
Chi sau is just to train your hands to where to go. If you are doing chi sau you have your steering wheel. When you cross the centerline you turn back and have your steering wheel again your two hands make the figure 8 or yin yang. Its a common theme in wing chun, like in sil nim tao, complex trapping etc.. each part is a learning tool in chi sau you first learn pun sau and void lock so obviously your chi sau is a training tool to learn how to avoid being caught in a void lock and how to apply them which is a common theme in chi sau. Where in sil nim tao you learn all the parts of complex trapping then you learn complex trapping. So obviously sil nim tao is a tool to learn how to apply complex trapping and how to avoid it. In bil jee you learn how to regain the centerline, so obviously its a tool to learn how to attack the centerline and how to avoid centerline attacks. In chum kil you learn how to bridge so obviously chum kil is how to use the bridge to attack and how to keep from being attacked from the bridge. All the forms have a secret application like that but each person learns the forms and there not always the same but the training for each is a exchange and by studying the form you come to an understanding of it. Each form is the same movements with different perspectives. By learning the perspective of the form its wing chun whether or not it looks identical to what you were taught. I see people all the time take things off corse with weird outside techniques and something that doesn't fit into tan bong gum gan pak lap fook jut jong palm and I have to say the same thing i heard a million times when in formal study "return to the system". That ment you didn't follow the structure of wing chun. Wing chun is a very exacting art that follows the movements of the yin yang particularly the yin power arc or if you layed the symbol on its side with the black part on top either way left or right you always end up going up on the outside down on the inside. And that way if you look at your chi sau your jut would go up on the outside across your body, your fook would gan downward on the inside etc... Anyway liked the video just thought I'd throw a monkey wrench into your comments.
I love this channels hot and cold views of Wing Chun where the bash the art when they want and promote the art at their convenience.
Anthony Chu commenting on mistakes to avoid isn’t “bashing” the art. It’s objectivity. We provide pros and cons and let the discerning viewer make up their mind from there.
Thanks for watching.
@@JKDandWingChun I appreciate the reply. Thanks for the insight.
One of my personal Kuen Kit....."Break his base and smash his face!" ;-)
Hahahahah lmao very helpful
I think these MMA keyboard teenage warriors and a lot of beef head MMA wannabes don't get martial arts at all. All systems are artificial man made. To be a true martial artist study the martial way. Cross train in a wide variety of systems, keep what is is useful to you, add it to your arsenal and forget what doesn't work for you. Become a better martial artist and learn the skills that MA instructers such as the 2 Sifu in this video are teaching you for free in their own time. Have some respect and realise that no martial art is superior, it is the fighter / martial artist at end of day.
I think pulling some of this stuff off at speed would be difficult against a fast punching boxer however, not impossible if you are trained and know what you are doing.
I disagree.
If no martial art is superior, then it would be all random which style you take as all would form you into equally good fighter, but the reality is that wc is never a strong performer in any setting, nor is Tai Chi.
You tend to see the strong performers originate from a select set of styles.
And no, the answer is not style, but how you train, who you can test your skills against and at how much resistance.
As long all styles do not do full contact fights then some styles will always be superior.
Use what works, disgard what does not...fine, how do you figure out what works if you never get to bust the ribs of your opponents?
@@petrihaikio7002 it's not random which martial art you take. Martial arts have developed over the centuries since people started fighting each other. Japan most of their martial arts come from Samurai post Samurai times. Swordsmen. Therefore, how to use a samurai sword and master it evolved in Japan. If you could ask a samurai whether he has tested his art, he has done it in battle. Philopines Kali escrima started through tribes fighting each other with weapons. Silat, the same. These arts have been tested in battle and that cannot be denied. You don't have to stab soomeone with a kerambit to know that a stabbing technique works. It's common sense. There are whole systems built around technique proven in combat over hundreds of years. The point is that it is not random, martial arts evolve geographically to suit a purpose that is being faced or a situation being faced at the time. They are all artificial but all are created and evolved for a purpose at the time. Muai Thai was, TKD was. These are hard style martial arts. Then there are th do martial arts. I belive do means way or path and is internal martial art. Yes it's is how you train, so my initial point is valid take what works and fits your personal style. BJJ on the other hand started because old man Gracie kept getting put on his arse. Go to a battle and watch warriors wrestling with each other on the floor. Never happened. The floor meant death. Different times in history, different locations, started for different purposes.
@@deadmansswitch2748 Common sense is often times a fallacy. The only way to prove something works is to try it out in reality. By this line of thinking there are literally arguments that these things *don't* work because they have not been seen to work in reality for us. Imagine that those stabbing techniques were modified, but never tested in reality. That technique is now unproven. If that technique continues to be modified, it has the potential to get further and further from a proven, reality driven technique. The major issue with MA's is their efficacy and how they are being displayed to people. If Wing Chun is being displayed as effective in a combat situation, but it is not (which it commonly shows to not be when tested in reality). It becomes unreasonable to consider it when compared to tested Fighting Systems. Spirituality in MA's are a completely different subject, and I don't really give a shit if you get off doing hand movements, more power too you.
@@lp9140 you seem to have complely missed the point. Read my observations carefully.
@@deadmansswitch2748 samurai was a social rank and was inherited, most samurai that ever lived, lived at times of peace and never drew blood, many never even knew martial arts or knew how to fight, you did not become samurai by war, but by birth, it seems that most never understood this part of being a samurai.
As for random...
If you have 100 people taking 100 different martial arts for five years and then meet for a fight, one vs one.
Chances are higher that MMA will win than that Tai Chi will win, even without rules.
It has not all too much to do with technique as is it about realistic training, it is less about techniques and it is more about resistance training against talented opponents.
Wing chun does poorly in all out fights, it got crushed in the early days of mma where all was allowed, same happened to a lot of styles..and it is not becouse WC is bad, it is simply trained in unrealistic ways, WC is great against WC but as soon someone does not do the sticky hands but simply lifts you off the ground and slams you headfirst into it again, WC is helpless...because it does not train for that.
Even against striking arts, muy thai crushes WC even on mere durability a punch that a muy thaier would barely notice could drop a WC fighter, again not because WC is bad, but because WC does not spar to toughen up the body.
So it is not random who wins, the styles who allow YOU to go to war (in a ring) are far better than styles that were used at war but does not allow YOU a chance to fight (in a ring)
The other guy looked like he was still learning but his surprised looks on his face 👀
Don’t forget boxers change head levels
Useful concepts but it'd be interesting to see them in actual application with a martial artist of another discipline, e.g. wrestling, who wouldn't try chi sao first
Check out Adam Chan he demonstrates wing chun very well..rolling in chi sau is just an exercise....what the true benefit that this exercise generates is sensitivity and knowledge.
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Ok ok here's your like😅
See? Don’t you feel better now???
You most likely wouldn't be able to pull it off in a match. It's rare to see wing chun applications in an mma situation. In the ring, wing chun loses to most other styles.
And also Jeet Kune Do is better and more effective than Wing Chun right because it offers many things than Wing Chun
True and more specifically, jkd is an adaptation of wingchun to deal with Western fighting opponents..
In a way it is westernized Wing Chun
Hahahaha
JESUS told me if you use this for him, your knowledge will greatly increase..
The same year Bruce Lee denied JESUS, he DIED...
🤔
JESUS is LORD,and KING of KINGS, AMEN!!!
Jesus this is just not gonna work on ANYONE who has ANY training AT ALL. Lets see some videos of you sparring.
I'll save all of the negative hypotheticals, and simply ask, what makes you (teacher) qualified to teach the application of violence as a tool? How many times have you seen the elephant?
This does not work in a real fight against aggressive opponent. Period
BETTER EXPLANATION...THAN PLAYING PATTY CAKE