I love Adam's stuff and have talked with him via our mutual association with Wing Chun Illustrated magazine. He's a class act and tremendous Wing Chun man.
Quick question when are you going to do a Biu Jee breakdown? I don't mean to rush you guys or come off as disrespectful but I am really looking forward to it.
I just bought your Siu Lim Tao book, enjoying it. But I am wanting more info on Wu Sao (Guarding Hand). I did a search of your channel and do not see a video on it. Is it just simply a hand ready to grab / press / close into fist? Why is the hand bladed instead of palm pointing toward enemy, which seems more apt to grab. Thanks from tExas!
One perspective is: In combat, morality is idealism. Next, in my view, martial arts have ranges, and avoiding conflict should be part of one's long-range tools. Win by not even being there. Next, everyone has an opinion, here's mine. For this martial arts approach, meaning close in combat. I prefer Southern Mantis over Wing Chun. Literally because it is over (comes from above) the more mid-level sticky-hands "rabbit action" of Wing Chun. In my way, Southern Mantis tends to attack from higher and roll over the top of, and drive down Wing Chun actions. And, I find that Southern Mantis is quicker to get right to the very serious vital parts of the opponent; neck and head. Which can be a bad thing legally. The way I see it is, that Wing Chun expends energy and takes more time and gives the bad guy's buddy more time to get you from behind. Compared to Southern Mantis. Playing footsie is just that much more time that a person is exposed to risk. So, I feel that S. Mantis fits me best. Don't get me wrong, S. Mantis has a sticky hands fundamental to it as well. It's just the level that the attacks come from, the way they drive opposition downward and how directly every action gets to a vital area on the opponent. By the way, I am tall.
No disrespect to anyone. It would be good to make students aware of this. All Martial Arts are for maiming or killing to protect yourself by empty hands, knifes, and weapons, if used incorrectly could end you in prison for long term. A Self Defence method is for using minimum force to escape the situation within the LAW where you live.
Avoid rather than check. Check rather than maim. Maim rather than kill....for all life is precious and none can be replaced. Sometimes we must sacrifice a finger to save the hand.
@@darealblazegamer2416 Go ahead - it's not mine either and I should have used quotes and gave credit. I believe it was a 'Master Kan' quote from original Kung Fu series with David Carradine. 'When you can snatch this pebble from my hand....' - that Master Kan.
Hello Sifo. I have a question . In your opinion, for self-defense in the street or street fighting in the Jeet Kune do method, it is necessary to do sparring in training to have collisions? So that we can bear it if we are hit once. Brucelee also said that the fight is not won with one punch and kick, either learn to tolerate or hire a bodyguard
Great question. I'd say that, yes, sparring is really essential for people in order to overcome fear and gain timing and distance. There are workarounds if you don't have a good school/gym to train in but I'd say a good sparring program is critical for optimal performance. That said, I think we should do a video on this subject. Like I said, great question.
@@johncasarino5627 good point. I think they (schools who don’t spar) mistakenly believe that sparring isn’t fighting and, therefore, it will turn the students into sport fighters. The problem with that is obvious: why do chi-sao or anything else then, right? There’s also the case of instructors not wanting to get hit and all that too. In all, I agree with one of the other comments that a school without a sparring program is really short-changing the students and leaving them vulnerable to wishful thinking. Thanks for the input, by the way. It’s really appreciated.
That’s my friend. 😉🤛💥 an old school JKD and WING CHUN teacher. Experienced. From the Masengil/Vunak lines. Sorry J if I blew that one. But experienced is the point. 😬🙏💥1:48 he’s right.2:23 that move you used with the Fook and bui gee snake hand was spot on self defense gold. ⚠️3:36 COMBO BREAKER!!! “Wow.. what a good (another) great point. The #jackdempsey punch. 💥😉🤛💯4:34 we POKE and PUNCH at #viperjkd 5:11 Did you guys see those moves right there. Perfect mix of wing chun structure with boxing sensibilities.5:20 I always find things coming back to the MANTIS. Controlling and hitting. Using energy against itself.
A common occurrence is people claiming Wing Chun is the best and others saying it is nearly useless. As someone who has studied and trained in Kenpo and Wing Chun for more than 30 years I find both sides to be ridiculous. There is no best self-defense, it comes down to the tactical skills of the fighter such as situational awareness, broad perspective, positioning, timing, how well defensive actions are and the type-choice of strikes. Also, the big problem with videos like this as well as things like so-called black belt exams such as in Kenpo, is that the demonstrations or exams are choreographed and do not show the application against a full-contact opponent. This is why genuine sparring is a more convincing way to demonstrate technique and a more realistic method of assessing if a fighter can actually apply masterful skills. Unfortunately, in most videos we either see unrealistic scenarios where the opponent just goes limp while the fighter demonstrates rehearsed movements, or the fighter does not skillfully demonstrate the application of important and very effective aspects of Wing Chun training, such as interception, redirection, or good strikes. Wing Chun definitely trains the fighter in effective methods, but whether those are applied with skill is the issue, and imo its a shame that actual masters and sifus do not make many well-known videos to showcase the actual spontaneous power that would bring better respect to the system. Coming back to this video, with all due respect, nobody in a real fight is going to be doing chisau, nor will their movements always comply so we can unleash chain attacks on them. If you want to really show the qualities of Wing Chun in self-defense, have someone who doesn't know martial arts genuinely attack you, but please, if you can't show skilled application in such a situation, don't record it....we have enough of those.
Very good points. I better understand in-fighting (Wing Chun), versus having a some space that allows me some tactical options (JKD) and learning your methods. The biggest key is of course footwork. Potentially cluttered versus relatively more open areas in self defense applications. Thanks for pounding the important tactical differences over and over.
Thair a lot of common sense in what you say about not getting involved I have been trained in boxing and takwondo and karate I still do bare knuckles planks on a wooden floor every day my age 71yr old a friend of mine from the boxing club got into a street fight it wasn't his fault but it ended up with the man he was fighting getting blind in one eye he got 6 months in prison even though he didn't start the fight this is what the law like in Scotland the criminal have more rights Alec from Scotland
That's a real fIght, one in jail & one in hospital! So never fight, that's the concept of the Chinese Kung Fu. Both would be charged with misconduct in public first. Unfortunately, sometimes it's difficult for some person to control himself especially those who knows Kung Fu.
I like your fight science, less so your economics. A national budget is not the same as a household budget. Spending can lead to more wealth generation and initiate a virtuous circle, while austerity can do the opposite. Also, where a state has a sovereign currency the state can actually create more money, which can fuel inflation if done recklessly, but not if done sensibly when there is spare productive capacity in the economy waiting to be mobilized, or the extra money is used to generate more productive capacity.
As someone who’s not a martial artist. I am quite confused by all the polarizing views. Some say Wing Chun is the best for self defense. Some argue that Wing Chun is BS. I have no idea who’s right who’s wrong.
Hope you don't mind me offering some things to think about. Imho, in choosing a martial art your energetic nature matters; are you hyperactive or are you very laid back? Your personality likes and dislikes should match the type of art that you would harmonize with. And, your body type should favor the type of martial art that would work best for you. Also, keep in mind that while it's flashy, kicking takes a lot of energy in a fight. In the street, rolling around on the ground leaves you wide open if the bad guy has buddies. Any martial art will work if you are very good in it and your opponent is an untrained drunk guy.
It dependes on the individual person and the purpose. There is shit Wing Chun and there is good Wing Chun. After 10 years of practicing i can say that Wing Chun is great for self defense as well as for overall self improvement. But to be honest it took me several years to really understand every concept (for personal reasons like lack of time aso. And because my Sifu wasn't that experienced in teaching when he started. But both of us became better in what we did (learning-teaching-learning over the years). My personal recommendation: If you want fast results and succes in tournament fighting for some years go to Muay Thai. (I love Muay Thai) If you looking for something to have some serious self defense skills go to Wing Chun. It might take a little longer but it will improve your whole life and you can train it until you are becoming and old man/woman
I was also genuinely confused. I used to train in WC about 25 years ago in the uk, when it, along with muay thai and eskrima were generally considered S tier for self defence. Sadly, mma then got big, and suddenly everyone judges a martial art by whether it works in the cage, and I was genuinely shocked to see how many mma fans just flat-out dismiss wing chun, even though quite a few high level mma fighters use wing chun either as a training tool or in the cage itself. Basically, don't believe them. Wing chun works, you just have to find a good teacher who understands it and teaches it practically. Remember: a martial art is defined by its principles, not its moves, and wing chun principles are some of the best out there if you can apply them in an adaptive and explosive manner.
@@s1ked_416 I don't think I've ever said WC doesn't work. I have probably said it's not as effective in certain situations, such as MMA, but if you'd be so kind as to quote me, I'd be happy to either clarify or fall on my sword.
All of the arts can be killer it's which one suits you. I knew a doorman with Wing Chun and he was a beast, another with Akido, beast too. Aikido is best for door work, you can lock not hit.
This is the problem with martial arts many people do not know them people do not know the meaning of what self defence is yet self defence is self defence is not a good combative sports
Sports systems are useful, but are training for the rules of the specific sport. You can't knee in boxing , rear choke in Muay Thai etc , so they are never training for this maneuver....
@@CoachSteveJandS great points. Yep. We have to be sober-minded so that we understand the specificity of what we’re training - the strengths and weaknesses of each approach. Thanks for watching.
Wing Chun is borderline useless and is going to get you beaten within an inch of your life in a street fight. Literally half the moves this guy is showcasing are little slap fights. This is ridiculous.
See my other comment in thread, and yes I agree he is showcasing little slaps instead of what Wing Chun strikes would look like against an opponent who doesn't go limp. If you watch MMA, you see Wing Chun type strikes all the time even though they aren't necessarily labelled as such.. Actual Wing Chun strikes can be deadly, and we see them in MMA, such as elbow strikes, straight-on snap kicks to the knee, straight punches without winding up, and movements where a fighter intercepts a punch with one hand while striking with the other at the same time. Obviously eye-gouging, strikes to the throat and groin, and bone breaking are prohibited in MMA, but the fundamental training of how to guard ourselves, intercept strikes, and retaliate are all as present in Wing Chun as they are in most fighting systems.
OK - I want to tell you from my point of view - but not to be critical - but to the normal person your delivery doesn't make sense, you failed to define the difference between SELF-DEFENSE and COMBAT or Martial Arts as a sport --- The why then becomes very unclear --- Wing Chun, was designed by a female in China even though she was already a Kung-Foo master, so why? China has some very confined spaces making the kung foo technique unable to defend ones self in the small spaces or confined areas, everything in Wing-Chun is designed to defend oneself inside very confined areas and deliver the best results, take that to the next level and you have - "How can I deliver the most pain in the shortest amount of time without injuring my opponent" There is no fight that should last more then 3 to 10 seconds regardless of the opponent or adversary ---
Thanks for the input although I disagree with your critique. By defining self-defense as the art and science of keeping oneself as safe as possible in the event of UNAVOIDABLE violence, I differentiated at the foundation level between sport combat and self-defense. I’ve elaborated on the particulars of that, and how sport and self-defense diverge, in other videos. In this one, I stated the logical nature of self-defense and that’s the key to the whole thing. It (self-defense) is unavoidable. Sport combat isn’t. And since it’s unavoidable there are logical implications to be considered that Wing Chun addresses and sporting approaches don’t. I appreciate your input but kindly ask you to return to the beginning where I address that concern. I will concede, however, that the “normal person,” as you define him, has the well of reason poisoned by too much sporting combat and choreographed movie violence. If such a viewer thinks soberly about the ramifications of self-defense being unavoidable and, therefore, unpredictable, the distinctions are abundantly clear. That’s my intent. As always, sound thinking requires logical definitions from the get-go. Thanks for watching.
@@JKDandWingChun - Yes in todays world one must be more direct in their speaking - that was my concern - Bullet points - Self-Defense is not an art-form it is a duty to ones-self
it's funny you say that cuz it just screams that you barely have any experience in wing chun or perhaps haven't gone against someone that does good wing chun :) 🤡
And here's the usual mma fanboy who's convinced that cage fighting is how a genuine life-threatening fight would go down. Sure, wing chun might not work in a cage on It's own, but then, no system does. That's why mma is called mma. But it works in terms of self defence, particularly in the sort of self defence scenarios people commonly find themselves in, ie sudden violence by a stranger and probably their mates in a crowded or confined space, such as a pub, where you want to get all of them away from you asap until help arrives or you can leg it. If you end up on the ground, no amount of bjj is going to stop you from getting your head kicked in, and muay thai as it's currently taught won't be much help when most of your moves don't work in tight spaces.
@@peterclarke7240 who said wing chun doesn’t work? Don’t get me wrong, most wing chun practioners don’t get pressure tested like they’re supposed to be, but that doesn’t mean the art doesn’t work, just that whoever uses it sucks at applying it right
This channel is great✌🏼
The original karate systems were structured for close quarters combat as well. In okinawa there is kakie, sticky hand training. Good job sifu.
Another excellent video 👊🏽
I’m curious as to what Sifu Jason would think of Adam Chan’s Wing Chun.
I love Adam's stuff and have talked with him via our mutual association with Wing Chun Illustrated magazine. He's a class act and tremendous Wing Chun man.
Quick question when are you going to do a Biu Jee breakdown? I don't mean to rush you guys or come off as disrespectful but I am really looking forward to it.
I wish you post videos of Complete Sui Lim Tao, Chumkui , ang Bui jee form for me to copy..
THANK YOU SIFU! 💥
I just bought your Siu Lim Tao book, enjoying it. But I am wanting more info on Wu Sao (Guarding Hand). I did a search of your channel and do not see a video on it. Is it just simply a hand ready to grab / press / close into fist? Why is the hand bladed instead of palm pointing toward enemy, which seems more apt to grab. Thanks from tExas!
That’s a great question. We should do a video on it. Thanks!!
@@JKDandWingChun Do the elbows come back as far as possible for the YJKYM or just to the rib cage? Thanks!
Love this Episode jason
One perspective is: In combat, morality is idealism. Next, in my view, martial arts have ranges, and avoiding conflict should be part of one's long-range tools. Win by not even being there.
Next, everyone has an opinion, here's mine. For this martial arts approach, meaning close in combat. I prefer Southern Mantis over Wing Chun. Literally because it is over (comes from above) the more mid-level sticky-hands "rabbit action" of Wing Chun. In my way, Southern Mantis tends to attack from higher and roll over the top of, and drive down Wing Chun actions. And, I find that Southern Mantis is quicker to get right to the very serious vital parts of the opponent; neck and head. Which can be a bad thing legally.
The way I see it is, that Wing Chun expends energy and takes more time and gives the bad guy's buddy more time to get you from behind. Compared to Southern Mantis. Playing footsie is just that much more time that a person is exposed to risk. So, I feel that S. Mantis fits me best. Don't get me wrong, S. Mantis has a sticky hands fundamental to it as well. It's just the level that the attacks come from, the way they drive opposition downward and how directly every action gets to a vital area on the opponent. By the way, I am tall.
Southern Mantis is more similar to Wing Chun than anything else.
Be water & find what you feel comfrontable that suit you.
Always well said Sifu
Please Sifu, put the subtitles with the automatic translation
No disrespect to anyone.
It would be good to make students aware of this.
All Martial Arts are for maiming or killing to protect yourself by empty hands, knifes, and weapons, if used incorrectly could end you in prison for long term.
A Self Defence method is for using minimum force to escape the situation within the LAW where you live.
Interesting , what is your oppinion of Izzo Wing Chun ?
I don't know him personally but Dominick is a very powerful voice for sanity in Wing Chun.
Interesting , thank you .@@JKDandWingChun
Avoid rather than check. Check rather than maim. Maim rather than kill....for all life is precious and none can be replaced. Sometimes we must sacrifice a finger to save the hand.
That’s pretty fire, mind if I steal it 😉
@@darealblazegamer2416 Go ahead - it's not mine either and I should have used quotes and gave credit. I believe it was a 'Master Kan' quote from original Kung Fu series with David Carradine. 'When you can snatch this pebble from my hand....' - that Master Kan.
Hello Sifo. I have a question . In your opinion, for self-defense in the street or street fighting in the Jeet Kune do method, it is necessary to do sparring in training to have collisions? So that we can bear it if we are hit once.
Brucelee also said that the fight is not won with one punch and kick, either learn to tolerate or hire a bodyguard
Great question. I'd say that, yes, sparring is really essential for people in order to overcome fear and gain timing and distance. There are workarounds if you don't have a good school/gym to train in but I'd say a good sparring program is critical for optimal performance. That said, I think we should do a video on this subject. Like I said, great question.
@@JKDandWingChun there seems to be too many wing chun schools that don't spar though
@@johncasarino5627 good point. I think they (schools who don’t spar) mistakenly believe that sparring isn’t fighting and, therefore, it will turn the students into sport fighters. The problem with that is obvious: why do chi-sao or anything else then, right? There’s also the case of instructors not wanting to get hit and all that too. In all, I agree with one of the other comments that a school without a sparring program is really short-changing the students and leaving them vulnerable to wishful thinking. Thanks for the input, by the way. It’s really appreciated.
That’s my friend. 😉🤛💥 an old school JKD and WING CHUN teacher. Experienced. From the Masengil/Vunak lines. Sorry J if I blew that one. But experienced is the point. 😬🙏💥1:48 he’s right.2:23 that move you used with the Fook and bui gee snake hand was spot on self defense gold. ⚠️3:36 COMBO BREAKER!!! “Wow.. what a good (another) great point. The #jackdempsey punch. 💥😉🤛💯4:34 we POKE and PUNCH at #viperjkd 5:11 Did you guys see those moves right there. Perfect mix of wing chun structure with boxing sensibilities.5:20 I always find things coming back to the MANTIS. Controlling and hitting. Using energy against itself.
A common occurrence is people claiming Wing Chun is the best and others saying it is nearly useless. As someone who has studied and trained in Kenpo and Wing Chun for more than 30 years I find both sides to be ridiculous. There is no best self-defense, it comes down to the tactical skills of the fighter such as situational awareness, broad perspective, positioning, timing, how well defensive actions are and the type-choice of strikes. Also, the big problem with videos like this as well as things like so-called black belt exams such as in Kenpo, is that the demonstrations or exams are choreographed and do not show the application against a full-contact opponent. This is why genuine sparring is a more convincing way to demonstrate technique and a more realistic method of assessing if a fighter can actually apply masterful skills. Unfortunately, in most videos we either see unrealistic scenarios where the opponent just goes limp while the fighter demonstrates rehearsed movements, or the fighter does not skillfully demonstrate the application of important and very effective aspects of Wing Chun training, such as interception, redirection, or good strikes. Wing Chun definitely trains the fighter in effective methods, but whether those are applied with skill is the issue, and imo its a shame that actual masters and sifus do not make many well-known videos to showcase the actual spontaneous power that would bring better respect to the system. Coming back to this video, with all due respect, nobody in a real fight is going to be doing chisau, nor will their movements always comply so we can unleash chain attacks on them. If you want to really show the qualities of Wing Chun in self-defense, have someone who doesn't know martial arts genuinely attack you, but please, if you can't show skilled application in such a situation, don't record it....we have enough of those.
Very good points. I better understand in-fighting (Wing Chun), versus having a some space that allows me some tactical options (JKD) and learning your methods. The biggest key is of course footwork. Potentially cluttered versus relatively more open areas in self defense applications. Thanks for pounding the important tactical differences over and over.
All knowledge are bad until you are ready to know them
Thair a lot of common sense in what you say about not getting involved I have been trained in boxing and takwondo and karate I still do bare knuckles planks on a wooden floor every day my age 71yr old a friend of mine from the boxing club got into a street fight it wasn't his fault but it ended up with the man he was fighting getting blind in one eye he got 6 months in prison even though he didn't start the fight this is what the law like in Scotland the criminal have more rights Alec from Scotland
That's a real fIght, one in jail & one in hospital! So never fight, that's the concept of the Chinese Kung Fu. Both would be charged with misconduct in public first. Unfortunately, sometimes it's difficult for some person to control himself especially those who knows Kung Fu.
From what u showed u better hope ur attacker is gonna be tryna slap ur hands the whole time and then put up no resistance when u do ur moves
I like your fight science, less so your economics. A national budget is not the same as a household budget. Spending can lead to more wealth generation and initiate a virtuous circle, while austerity can do the opposite. Also, where a state has a sovereign currency the state can actually create more money, which can fuel inflation if done recklessly, but not if done sensibly when there is spare productive capacity in the economy waiting to be mobilized, or the extra money is used to generate more productive capacity.
As someone who’s not a martial artist. I am quite confused by all the polarizing views. Some say Wing Chun is the best for self defense. Some argue that Wing Chun is BS. I have no idea who’s right who’s wrong.
Hope you don't mind me offering some things to think about. Imho, in choosing a martial art your energetic nature matters; are you hyperactive or are you very laid back? Your personality likes and dislikes should match the type of art that you would harmonize with. And, your body type should favor the type of martial art that would work best for you.
Also, keep in mind that while it's flashy, kicking takes a lot of energy in a fight. In the street, rolling around on the ground leaves you wide open if the bad guy has buddies. Any martial art will work if you are very good in it and your opponent is an untrained drunk guy.
It dependes on the individual person and the purpose.
There is shit Wing Chun and there is good Wing Chun.
After 10 years of practicing i can say that Wing Chun is great for self defense as well as for overall self improvement.
But to be honest it took me several years to really understand every concept (for personal reasons like lack of time aso. And because my Sifu wasn't that experienced in teaching when he started. But both of us became better in what we did (learning-teaching-learning over the years).
My personal recommendation:
If you want fast results and succes in tournament fighting for some years go to Muay Thai. (I love Muay Thai)
If you looking for something to have some serious self defense skills go to Wing Chun. It might take a little longer but it will improve your whole life and you can train it until you are becoming and old man/woman
I was also genuinely confused. I used to train in WC about 25 years ago in the uk, when it, along with muay thai and eskrima were generally considered S tier for self defence.
Sadly, mma then got big, and suddenly everyone judges a martial art by whether it works in the cage, and I was genuinely shocked to see how many mma fans just flat-out dismiss wing chun, even though quite a few high level mma fighters use wing chun either as a training tool or in the cage itself.
Basically, don't believe them. Wing chun works, you just have to find a good teacher who understands it and teaches it practically. Remember: a martial art is defined by its principles, not its moves, and wing chun principles are some of the best out there if you can apply them in an adaptive and explosive manner.
@@peterclarke7240 funny that you contradicted yourself in another comment we were just in lol now you’re saying it works? Bro… lol
@@s1ked_416 I don't think I've ever said WC doesn't work. I have probably said it's not as effective in certain situations, such as MMA, but if you'd be so kind as to quote me, I'd be happy to either clarify or fall on my sword.
All of the arts can be killer it's which one suits you. I knew a doorman with Wing Chun and he was a beast, another with Akido, beast too. Aikido is best for door work, you can lock not hit.
It's not Wing chun or not.. Rather who's wing chun
This is the problem with martial arts many people do not know them people do not know the meaning of what self defence is yet self defence is self defence is not a good combative sports
Has anyone told you that you look like the bad guy from Avatar?
Why wing chun for self defense? Idk, maybe you like getting your ass kicked?
Sports systems are useful, but are training for the rules of the specific sport. You can't knee in boxing , rear choke in Muay Thai etc , so they are never training for this maneuver....
@@CoachSteveJandS great points. Yep. We have to be sober-minded so that we understand the specificity of what we’re training - the strengths and weaknesses of each approach. Thanks for watching.
LOL.
No.
It's the person not the style.
Wing Chun is borderline useless and is going to get you beaten within an inch of your life in a street fight.
Literally half the moves this guy is showcasing are little slap fights. This is ridiculous.
See my other comment in thread, and yes I agree he is showcasing little slaps instead of what Wing Chun strikes would look like against an opponent who doesn't go limp. If you watch MMA, you see Wing Chun type strikes all the time even though they aren't necessarily labelled as such.. Actual Wing Chun strikes can be deadly, and we see them in MMA, such as elbow strikes, straight-on snap kicks to the knee, straight punches without winding up, and movements where a fighter intercepts a punch with one hand while striking with the other at the same time. Obviously eye-gouging, strikes to the throat and groin, and bone breaking are prohibited in MMA, but the fundamental training of how to guard ourselves, intercept strikes, and retaliate are all as present in Wing Chun as they are in most fighting systems.
OK - I want to tell you from my point of view - but not to be critical - but to the normal person your delivery doesn't make sense, you failed to define the difference between SELF-DEFENSE and COMBAT or Martial Arts as a sport --- The why then becomes very unclear ---
Wing Chun, was designed by a female in China even though she was already a Kung-Foo master, so why? China has some very confined spaces making the kung foo technique unable to defend ones self in the small spaces or confined areas, everything in Wing-Chun is designed to defend oneself inside very confined areas and deliver the best results, take that to the next level and you have - "How can I deliver the most pain in the shortest amount of time without injuring my opponent" There is no fight that should last more then 3 to 10 seconds regardless of the opponent or adversary ---
Thanks for the input although I disagree with your critique. By defining self-defense as the art and science of keeping oneself as safe as possible in the event of UNAVOIDABLE violence, I differentiated at the foundation level between sport combat and self-defense. I’ve elaborated on the particulars of that, and how sport and self-defense diverge, in other videos. In this one, I stated the logical nature of self-defense and that’s the key to the whole thing. It (self-defense) is unavoidable. Sport combat isn’t. And since it’s unavoidable there are logical implications to be considered that Wing Chun addresses and sporting approaches don’t.
I appreciate your input but kindly ask you to return to the beginning where I address that concern. I will concede, however, that the “normal person,” as you define him, has the well of reason poisoned by too much sporting combat and choreographed movie violence. If such a viewer thinks soberly about the ramifications of self-defense being unavoidable and, therefore, unpredictable, the distinctions are abundantly clear. That’s my intent. As always, sound thinking requires logical definitions from the get-go.
Thanks for watching.
@@JKDandWingChun - Yes in todays world one must be more direct in their speaking - that was my concern - Bullet points - Self-Defense is not an art-form it is a duty to ones-self
lern kickboxing jiu-jitsu and Then if u wanna add something learn wing stun... just wing stun is most of the time useless... it just doesn't work
It works fine. I don't know where you got your experience from but either yourself or others suck.
it's funny you say that cuz it just screams that you barely have any experience in wing chun or perhaps haven't gone against someone that does good wing chun :) 🤡
And here's the usual mma fanboy who's convinced that cage fighting is how a genuine life-threatening fight would go down.
Sure, wing chun might not work in a cage on It's own, but then, no system does. That's why mma is called mma. But it works in terms of self defence, particularly in the sort of self defence scenarios people commonly find themselves in, ie sudden violence by a stranger and probably their mates in a crowded or confined space, such as a pub, where you want to get all of them away from you asap until help arrives or you can leg it. If you end up on the ground, no amount of bjj is going to stop you from getting your head kicked in, and muay thai as it's currently taught won't be much help when most of your moves don't work in tight spaces.
@@peterclarke7240 who said wing chun doesn’t work? Don’t get me wrong, most wing chun practioners don’t get pressure tested like they’re supposed to be, but that doesn’t mean the art doesn’t work, just that whoever uses it sucks at applying it right
@@s1ked_416 um... The OP?