10 Beginner Whiskeys We Regret Buying! Things We've Learned Since!
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Let's get into 10 whiskeys we bought when we got into whiskey and we regret now. Some are for marketing reasons, some are for value reasons... The one at the end is for a very different reason. Whiskey we regret buying is semi-common at this point BUT when you have less to spend and are trying to build your bar it's important to make smart purchases in the beginning!
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Larceny and Monkey Shoulder have actually got me into wheated and scotch. Different strokes lol.
Honestly, I like them both as well. Larceny was a decent drink for me. I actually really liked monkey shoulder too. I prefer larceny over og makers mark. Monkey shoulder is just really easy to drink and the only real problem it has is that there isn't too much going for it as far as tasting notes go. I regret buying Laphroaig 10. I still have 3/4ths of the bottle left after 4 years.
Agree. Nothing wrong with either of these.
@@rewndudeThe Laphroaig 10 to get is the cask strength. Now, of you don’t like peat smoke, it will of course be even worse than the 10! LOL. I don’t bother with the regular 10.
Agree, when the MS was at $19, you couldn’t find a better blend for the value. Now at $30ish definitely not the best value anymore.
@@rewndude finally I hear that from someone else, makers mark had me judging wheated bourbons so hard but then I had larceny and realized there might be a chance I could like them, but everyone always talks shit on it, at least everyone I know
"My favorite part about the Toast was it was just brown rice, and that'll piss ya off."
I LOL'd, hard.😂
I agree with all, except the Larceny I actually like it 🥃
Yeah I bought larceny once because the store was out of Maker's Mark and I thought it was pretty good.
As someone who has a shelf dedicated to bottles I hate, I love seeing these videos bc we all have bought bottles that suck and its hard to admit sometimes.
Funny episode, and on the button. Mine is Blantons ... when I first got into bourbon, it was "expensive" (i.e. in the Atlanta area, about $50 a bottle) and I'd buy it as a treat to celebrate something, because it was my favorite. Not any more.
Monkey Shoulder by itself isn't my favorite, but it's really good for making scotch based cocktails.
For that last ETL I gotta say, "Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened." -Dr. Seuss
9:34 you can add Blue run bourbon to that hype train.
The one that still makes me chuckle every time I look at it on my shelf is Caribou Crossing.
I regret Dickel. In the late 2000's I used to drink it all the time. Tasted like pancakes and maple syrup. Now it tastes like Flintstones Vitamins. And that memory of what it tasted like haunts me. I keep giving Dickel a chance because of it, and it always disappoints.
Widow Jane 14YR for $300 anyone? 🤣
One of my top three worst bottles, George Dickle barrel select. 💩💩 No matter what I did with it, I couldn't drink it.
Yep. I bought a 15 year SB. It was awful. Tried blending it. Still awful. Had to drain pour to free up space for better bottles for 1/3 the price.
Flintstones vitamins. 100% accurate 😂
I regret my first bottle for the same reasons as Dan. It was a russell's reserve single barrel hwich was too hot for me at the time and I was unable to appreciate the different notes. I've since settled into 90-105 proofers, and working my way up
Larceny killed that category for me as well...got a store pick...thought it was fish bowl water.
Ha, I remember seeing the Basil Hayden's 10 year behind glass at Binny's and being intrigued, but then I remembered that I didn't really like regular BH so wasn't going to pay more to find out if the 10 year was good. Glad I didn't.
If Monkey Shoulder was a regret please share what bottle you feel was a better buy for price and taste. My regret bottles at old Forester 1920 because it tasted like rubbing alcohol to me (no I'm not a newbie to bourbon) and Kentucky Owl Confiscated because it was very expensive and very underwhelming!
I buy more Larceny than probably anything else. I find it just perfect for whisky sours. Not a sipping whisky though. Barrel proof is a different story.
I love this video. I love you guys. Please do more videos like this one! Regrets make us better seekers, buyers, and whiskey lovers!!! If every bottle was great, being a whiskey aficionado would be boring.
Besides probably Johnnie Walker Red I think the first actual scotch I had ever tried was Macallan 12, didn't know they were that expensive until I actually saw a bottle at a Safeway.
Beginner here. Larceny Small Batch was one of the first bottles I tried - not a fan! Luckily I tried the Elijah Craig Small Batch next and love it. So I'll stick with it.
I love when you coined the phrase last but not least. That's so innovative and eloquent that's sure to catch on.
I too have been burned by some of the same bottles. I also learned that not every label from a distillery is worth having.
Lol I to have a shelf dedicated to bottles I hate. Mine right now is Willet pot still got me with the fancy bottle has a note that to me is refined fireball.
Had a store let me try regular Saint Cloud (no thank you) compared to their store pick (amazing)....crazy difference. I almost want to make sure you guys try it to experience it.
Interesting comment on a poor choice early on ruining a category for you. The first toasted bourbon I tried was BH Toast and I though it pretty bad. Generally avoided them for a few years, even though I had an unopened bottle of Michtners toasted bourbon on the shelf. Finally tried that and realized that all toasted options don’t suck. Still generally don’t look for any of them but at least no longer actively avoid them
Man that Woodford Chocolate is so good. I agree that the price isn't ideal but imo it's great whiskey.
My Oak & Eden "wheat and spire" had a Play-Doh note and Sahara desert mouth-drying finish that was totally off-putting. I have regerts. LOL. BUT - I will add that I took the spiral out and put it in my infinity bottle and did some other stuff with it that seemed to do good things... even though it may have been a placebo effect.
Journeyman Distillery Corsets Whips and Whiskey out of Michigan is one of the best wheat whiskeys on the market.
These guys can be entertaining even with the sound off. The look on Dan’s face after tasting Bernheim. 😂
Interesting list!
Great video, guys! It would have been nice if you could have recommended some bottles that would have been corrections to the mistakes you made along the way. Dan mentioned choosing Old Forester Rye would have been better over Pikesville to put his toe in the water starting out, even if he now thinks Pikesville is a better dram. Were there other bottles that you'd recommend to newcomers to Blended Scotch, Finished Whiskey, or Wheated Bourbon? Just using those as examples since you mentioned them in your lists.
Blended scotch: don’t know. Pretty much drink single malt only (especially American Single Malt like Westward Whiskey), Wheated: Maker’s Mark (especially a pick), finished whiskey: Angels Envy (when you outgrow the low proof find a store pick at 110) just my .02
It's nice to see that you're not the only one making occasional whisky mistakes. Also nice to see when you avoided a trap that got others. Great video!
Dan melting down, priceless! I hear ya, don’t have that type bottle yet thankfully, but I get what you’re saying.
That Oak&Eden bottle looks like it has a Baby Ruth in it... I'm with Dan, I totally have Bernheim on my list along with a bunch of craft whiskey gimmicks like Climax Whiskey (aged "24 hours" - no joke), Matchstick bourbon, and Three Crosses bourbon. Thankfully VA redeemed itself with a legit hitter: John J Bowman.
You guys are the only folks I’ve actually seen give a positive review on ETL
I have been looking at/considering Pikesville Rye. Glad it wasn't a true "regret" purchase.
Larceny... totally agree. Was unimpressed. The Barrel Proof B522 was leaps and bounds better.
Woodford Reserve... the Double Oaked is my favorite of theirs. The Rye is also VG!
I've been avoiding Basil Hayden and Oak & Eden. Glad you just confirmed that I should continue avoiding.
I'm just the opposite. I like Larceny quite a bit, especially for its price point. Conversely, I think WR Double Oak is awful - it's like drinking vanilla while chewing on a fresh cut chunk of oak.
I agree on the WR Rye though. STUPIDLY GOOD.
It's interesting how our palates are so different. I don't like Woodford Reserve straight bourbon very much, but the double oaked really checked all my boxes.
The double Oak is amazing!. Pancakes and syrup. Larceny taste like cork, oak, erasers😂
I still have a Dickel on the shelf that I primarily have used to mix with. It’s almost gone but I refuse to drink it solo again.
First ever bottle was Elijah Craig Barrel Proof. No regerts
“That’s just strong in the wrong way” so true Dan, so true
Looks like you need to find the sink! No drain in the studio. I understand sunk costs are hard to part with
I picked up a bottle of Rye with that "stave" trick once, but it was under $40 bucks.
I had the same reaction: "meh".
I really enjoyed larceny the one time I had it and I also really enjoy basil Hayden red wine cask finish other than the price but I found it for 45$ instead of 65-70
Dan’s Elmer story is the exact reason I have 5 or 6 Rare Breeds put away. I’m convinced WT is going to run out of 12 year old whiskey at the rate we’re drinking it. Also this isn’t so much a regret and I didn’t buy the bottle but I drank about 2/3 of a bottle of Pappy 20 at a time when I wouldn’t have known the taste of Pappy from Woodford Reserve. The bottle came to me in a very unexpected way, I got it for free, and I knew it was expensive but hadn’t drank nearly enough whiskey to really appreciate why. I drank it with friends and celebrated some milestones in my life and my career so I definitely don’t regret acquiring it or drinking it but I just wish I knew then what I know now. At least I knew enough to hang onto the empty bottle!
So right about rare breed. I don't know how it has been so good for so long. Round about 20 yrs for me.
I too have been stashing away bottles of Rare Breed!
Pikesville at $13 for 750 ml in Maryland county stores was always a good deal
I remember watching whiskey reviews and reading magazines, back ten/twelve year ago. Everyone said to avoid buying the Elmer T. Lee. Now it going for crazy prices.
$399 on-line - NUTS!
We have a special holiday in my house where we bring together all the bottles we regret buying and drink them while reminiscing about why we bought them in the first place.
We call it "Tuesday"
My first whiskeys were Jack Daniels, Monkey Shoulder Hudson NY, Yamasaki 12. Definitely a rollercoaster.
Larceny and Woodford are good . I like to blend whiskies, sometimes you hit upon a really good blend
Have you tried the Chattanooga Malted Rye? It uses a blend of Caramel Malted Rye, Chocolate Malted Rye, Malted Rye and a little Corn. It's sweet and malty, it's bliss.
Chattanooga is one I love, they do malt right
Dude. Larceny is amazing. In my opinion. My favorite two first bottles was Larceny and Buffalo trace. Then again when I got into bourbon I wasn’t “new” to bourbon.
Good information.
I don't think Dan knows what the word Regret means. He seemed to love most of the bottles he listed. Agree on the Oak and Eden, got a bottle here that I can't quite choke down. Cheers guys!
I've drank numerous bottles of OWA, and it's a great wheated bourbon, but Bernheim and Larceny are both really good too, just different Larceny barrel proof is obviously better, same with Bernheim barrel proof, but the others are good, easy drinkers. Folks should try them for themselves. Obviously, Bernheim is wheat whiskey, but in the same area.
I enjoy the larceny as well.
I was lucky enough to drink MGP Eagle Rare in the late '80's ... then came the Sazerac juice and now we have where they are today. Loved and lost and not sure I'm better for it.
Always enjoyable, but the ETL rant today was great 😎
I know I don't have a discerning enough palette to be a whiskey reviewer. I appreciate really good whiskey when I drink it, but I don't mind the cheap stuff either. I don't have any problem drinking some Larceny or Bernheim. But I'm the same way with food. I can appreciate eating a fancy meal, but I'm perfectly content eating a ham sandwich.
Agreed on the Larceny
Just picked up some 1792 and regret nothing! Thanks for the suggestion in your previous videos. Had to cross the border into Michigan to find it, though. Thankfully, that is 9 minutes from my house.
Basil Hayden's have all been disappointing to me. I regret of buying the cask finish one.
1792 is a great value.
Would have been cool to offer a “buy this instead” for each of these. I’m surprised by the Monkey Shoulder hate. Quite like it myself. What’s a better buy for the price point?
My thought exactly. "There are so many I could have bought for the same price that would have been better" just made me try to think of a better $30 scotch.
I think MS is great as a blended affordable scotch for cocktails. It's not as nuanced as other scotches and I don't love it neat because it feels a little too simple, but there's nothing "wrong" with it. On the other side, I don't understand why some people gush over it endlessly.
Elmer being on this list is definitely just funny. I too wish it was as available as I remember it to be back in 2014 😞
I'm glad Monkey Shoulder was on the list. I haven't tried scotch in years but never liked it. I really like bourbon and like some ryes. I've been wanting to try scotch again and have heard monkey shoulder is a good intro bottle. What is a better intro scotch....basically a first scotch for a bourbon drinker.
The statement that chasing limiteds is not the way to go is so true. I have such an easy access to higher tier Buffallo Trace (minus pappy, that one is harder to get) in my linfe of work, and most of them are god awful, especially for the money. I can't understand why people paid $40 for Blanton's, let alone $80. There are so many better bourbons and american whiskeys on the market. One of the most random whiskey love's I've had recently is when a bottle of Burning Chair got damaged and I took it home. What a great bottle for a fairly low price for a bourbon.
Pikesville and monkey shoulder are amazing!!!! 45 and 35 respectively. You can tho wrong at all.
I'm with Sean, I bought a Woodford 5 Malted Stout limited release and wasn't a fan of it. So I've been offered the new historical batch 18 from Woodford at my store a bunch and I just can't bring myself to buy that for 130.
Okay side note that historic entry might be one of their better master collection bottles in many years
Just buy the batch proofs
I feel like I remember a vid of them praising the brandy cask finish masters from woodford too. Not sure though.
@@BourbonJunkies You need one?
Found out early on that I like rye. Pikesville has always been a friend. Turkey Products? Not so much for me. Weird.
How do you guys only have 100k subs? I'd say your content is better, or at least on par, than Whiskey Tribe. One of life's mysteries. Keep up the good work. Oh, yes, the Woodford Reserve limited bottles are awful. I think I have a "port cask" version?? Had it for five years, and it's only been poured once.
These guys are good....whiskey tribe...those guys the worst whisky tubers....by far...there unwatchable
@@danielthomason5685 I like these guys but the tribe is better in every way. Hell, the title of this video is “beginner whiskeys we regret buying” and most of the bottles shown are $70+, rare, and delicious.
Where did you get those square whiskey shelves?
I don't have many regret bottles but I do generally feel bad when I think I'm getting something cool to try and after tasting I'm like... oh... this is just another MGP. Don't get me wrong MGP makes some good juice but I don't need 5 bottles of the same mash from MGP and I don't always want to do research before buying something.
Based on my experience with BH, i am inclined to disagree with you guys on the BH products. Especially the BH Toast. I sipped that bottle three days at 2 ounce sips. It had a mean bite. However, two weeks of burping the bottle and letting it breathe. BH Toast was a sweet bomb with a flavor i can't help but crave. The cask one also took me for a bit of a ride at first. But it was definitely worth it's last sips toward the end.
I would like to see you guys revisit those BH bottles and re review them after they have breathed a bit and tell me you still feel the same.
Funny how everyone's tastes are different. I loved Larceny Small Batch early on. Mine was a store pick though. I've moved on to barrel proof and haven't had SB in a while, but have good memories of it. However, I just got an Oak & Eden amburana spire and dont like it at all. It tastes artificially flavored.
Your first small batch was not small batch. It was a single barrel.
I've had a couple good larceny picks as well! Just the normal shelf stock wasn't for us
I tried a wiskey in a bbq smoke house over the weekend, Kurvball BBQ wiskey, it was bad...real bad.
I’m singing Bad Case of Loving You in my head while Dan talks about Elmer.
Mmmm. Larceny is one of my favorites
I don't get the "hate" that seems to be somewhat popular over the last year or so when it comes to Monkey Shoulder. I stayed away from it for a good while because of so many reviewers saying it is over rated, or that it was disappointing. I find it very distinct and unique among scotches, and I find it to be an absolutely delicious every day drinker that is easily shared with friends not as much into whisk(e)ys. I am very diverse in what I enjoy and drink regularly, from Redbreast 12 to Laphroaig 10. Wildturkey 101 to Pappys 15, and Monkey Shoulder is a really good daily sipper that I am constantly sharing with friends and enjoying!
I like Larceny it’s a good affordable bourbon.
I regret Elijah Craig 18 yr single barrel. Many bottles had the 1980's on them back in 2003 to 2005. I drank them as though they would always be there and always $45 bucks😪
Monkey Shoulder is good for the price (and for folks with a soft palet). Worth having on the bar for under $30.
Yeah cheap and a solid mixer. I like the banana bread flavor.
Wild Turkey Longbranch and Ol Major Bacon Boubon are my biggest regrets.
My first disappointing purchase was Michter’s unblended American. Michter’s bourbon was one of my very first bottles, as a gift, and I loved it. I heard nothing but amazing things about the unblended American, and for $45 I found it to be incredibly simple and boring, with a flavor profile I just didn’t like. If I’d paid $20 for it, I’d be like hey no biggie it was cheap. But I’ve had $20 bottles with more interesting flavor development than that for over double the price
That smirnoff ice is getting mighty CLOSE!
End of that video was funny af 😂
Larceny & Monkey Shoulder are in my bar regularly. Mainly cuz they are drinkable and my wife will NOT shut up when I spend more than $60-$70 on a single bottle of anything. She's probably right in reprimanding me...I did just score a bottle of Blantons at my local for msrp - $69.95. We're both good with that.
noooooo! Monkey Shoulder is the BEST for cocktails! It mixes so well!
I love that you beeped out the first F word, but kept the second one in there.
You nailed that chocolate malted rye. I only had a sample but I did not enjoy it at all
I didn't expect the end of the episode to get so philosophical.
What glasses are they using?
Being you guys are in Michigan (South), have you done a video or tried New Holland's Dragon's Milk Origin Bourbon?
My beginners that I would say I wouldn't buy again are:
Elijah Craig small batch, Evan Williams BIB, Knob Creek 9, and so far after 3 takes , OGD 114 isn't fairing too well with me, too harsh
We love the new Holland origins, cask strength is even better
@@BourbonJunkies Yeah I have the reg bottle but i just got one of their limited Toasted cask strengths that they just realsed March 18th, Stay Classy 122 proof
I’m 20 and I’ve slept 200 years of my life already🤌🏼 this vampy shit ain’t easy🤣😂
Which Binny's was that you visited?
Yall paid $80 for oak and eden? I get it for $45 from my local store, and the same batch somehow.
Much like tattoos, every bottle tells a story of a journey. No ragerts.
If we're doing current lists, then I think mine is Heaven Hill 7 BiB. I just find this disappointing and bought a couple backup bottles due to the false scarcity of it.
Tons of respect to Finn for putting his neck out there and having Phil on. Thought it was a fantastic conversation.
Dan easily gets more on that box than ever gets down his gullet lol
I really like Bourbon (enough that I watch a ton of Bourbon Tube like this channel), but I LOVE Scotch. Monkey Shoulder was one of my first Scotch bottles as well, but on the advice of Scotch 4 Dummies rather than Whisky Tribe. It's OK, but I agree there are far better intros.
What was the bottle Dan showed with only a badge? I couldn't read what it was, and I don't think he said. Thanks
St. Cloud
Early on in my whiskey journey I bought a local craft distillery's BiB "all organic local grain" blah blah blah. It checked all the boxes on my newby checklist, and was $55. I thought "damn, it has to be good!" I didn't realize at the time that a lot of craft whiskey is ass, and this bottle was fucking garbage. I poured it out after giving it 4 chances. I regret it because at the time I could have bought a bottle of eagle rare AND a bottle of buffalo trace, neither of which I had tried then, for the same price. Those are much more newby friendly, and after that I had a hard time tracking them down.
hey, quick question, have you tried these in mixed drinks? I hear all the time, don't use your good stuff for mixed drinks. but since this isn't your good stuff, how about some mixed drinks?
We haven't, but I've seen a bunch of comments about monkey shoulder in cocktails
I used to work with a guy who would say, "hindsight is 50/50".. Some of his other sayings... "purrs like equipment" "santa-size" instead of sanitize, & he described how he had to pass a kidney stone through his uterus. 😂
Funny. I knew a guy who used to say “as useless as tits on a board,” and “to all intense purposes.” Maybe they were related.
Larceny is so good