Who Are The Most UNDERRATED Characters in Smash Ultimate?

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  • Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
  • We've gathered our SMASH PROS together several times now to determine the ranking of various characters in Smash Ultimate. Today, we asked them to name the Top 10 most UNDERRATED characters in the game. Do you agree? Was your main featured? Let us know down below!
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Комментарии • 570

  • @SmashLibrarian
    @SmashLibrarian 2 года назад +303

    Esam's logic makes sense - if you accept Skyjay's results for incineroar despite him being one of the few incineroar reps in NA, you have to accept Yoshi and Yoshidora argument based on Japan results

    • @xavierlynch1088
      @xavierlynch1088 2 года назад +30

      Depends. Because incineroar was considered like bottom 5 while yoshi was never even close to that bad.

    • @CookieGal-
      @CookieGal- 2 года назад +34

      @@xavierlynch1088 and Yoshidora's results have also been better than SkyJay's. EXTREMELY consistent top 8s.

    • @xavierlynch1088
      @xavierlynch1088 2 года назад +7

      @@CookieGal- I dunno I considered yoshi a hight tier. Getting consistent top 8s doesn't really seem outta the ordinary

    • @Sooth0
      @Sooth0 2 года назад +10

      @@xavierlynch1088 getting consistent top 8s at japanese majors is what I would consider "out of the ordinary"

    • @xavierlynch1088
      @xavierlynch1088 2 года назад +3

      @@Sooth0 I wouldn't. We have been seeing sonsistent top 8s with high tiers for months now both In America and japan

  • @brainymaestro8581
    @brainymaestro8581 2 года назад +44

    Duck hunt is so underrated that no one remembers the character, he's a good character it's just that he has a high skill ceiling which discourages a lot of people from playing him. He has so little representation and it doesn't help that raito has disappeared from tournaments.

    • @medecko4394
      @medecko4394 2 года назад

      True. Duck hunt is THE most underrated, or rather one of the most underrated, Villager sometimes also takes the underrated spot simply because they can be rare sometimes, plus being a bit overshadowed by Isabelle.

    • @ThreeFingerG
      @ThreeFingerG 2 года назад

      The term you should have used is "high skill floor" actually.

    • @sO_RoNerY
      @sO_RoNerY День назад

      Not many kids and young adults want to invest. They want an easy-pick-up-characters.

  • @loz_x
    @loz_x 2 года назад +177

    surprised lucas wasnt mentioned honestly considering he's so underplayed and has a lot of great stuff despite ness being the obvious better character

    • @riotv6
      @riotv6 2 года назад +17

      Ness got better disjoints and combo ability.
      I like Lucas better and don’t understand why they took away his down throw combos from 4 to ultimate but they did. I miss the old Lucas :(

    • @MasterHandSpazz
      @MasterHandSpazz 2 года назад +4

      Even tho they're similar I think they're pointless to compare akin to Mario and doc

    • @michaelcross7665
      @michaelcross7665 2 года назад +19

      @Angelic lucas' recovery is better on paper, but you have to fear ness' way more if you're gonna try and mess with it

    • @rurounijay7100
      @rurounijay7100 2 года назад

      @@michaelcross7665 exactly that lmao.

    • @rurounijay7100
      @rurounijay7100 2 года назад

      @Angelic you basically nailed it to a T. Super underrated super high tier character and i actually put him neck and neck with ness even if ness is obviously better

  • @keeshuunedited5678
    @keeshuunedited5678 2 года назад +19

    Time stamps for all of ya for quick reference:
    0:49 Mario
    2:05 Samus
    3:46 Terry
    4:02 Bayonetta
    5:26 Jigglypuff
    7:26 Hero
    8:37 Shulk
    9:18 Mewtwo
    11:37 Coney quickly mentions Captain Falcon and Luigi as one tricks.
    11:48 Lucina
    13:13 Incineroar
    13:47 Ness
    13:57 Yoshi
    16:44 Mii Brawler
    17:57 Rosalina & Luma
    18:46 The final list

  • @bananafactory9242
    @bananafactory9242 2 года назад +14

    1:55 I love how Esam looked at his wrist, which didn’t even have a watch on it, to say “years”

  • @TopBannana
    @TopBannana 2 года назад +107

    This channel is underrated honestly

    • @Captorak
      @Captorak 2 года назад

      True

    • @Shrek2onVHS
      @Shrek2onVHS 2 года назад

      Underrated by whom

    • @TopBannana
      @TopBannana 2 года назад +16

      @@Shrek2onVHS the people who arent subbed ofc

    • @foks0054
      @foks0054 2 года назад

      FIRE DAILY content

    • @personpersonson7958
      @personpersonson7958 2 года назад +5

      @@foks0054 To be fair low effort daily content. Though I still am entertained.

  • @irwin997
    @irwin997 2 года назад +154

    Pretty good list overall. Personally I think Corrin is really underrated but more people are starting to see the light now especially after Shadic beat Cosmos

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth 2 года назад +15

      Yeaaahhh Cosmos getting rekt by his old main must've been hilarious lol

    • @riotv6
      @riotv6 2 года назад +1

      I bet cosmos won’t ever get beat by another corrin again after that one 😂

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth 2 года назад +3

      @@riotv6 Unless it's Shadic >:)

    • @zacharyalford8185
      @zacharyalford8185 2 года назад +14

      Corrin is definitely is a, well I have good moves but no mobility kind of character, and with characters with less mobility becoming more used, I think corrin will get better. Also shadic is incredible

    • @RainbowAceOfSpades
      @RainbowAceOfSpades 2 года назад +4

      And MkLeo picking them up too

  • @McClappin1
    @McClappin1 2 года назад +30

    What makes Jiggs even more scary now is that back air isn’t -7 anymore. It’s -3

    • @Hunted0LessShirt
      @Hunted0LessShirt 2 года назад +4

      You're right but (as a recent Esam video pointed out), this is assuming it's done as a landing hitbox coming out as low to the ground as possible which is rarely possible - even still a landing bair will generally be between -3 and -6. The other factor is the autocancel window which I don't know about in practice but removes up to 8 frames of landing lag from some higher bairs.

    • @ChrisPBacon-zf5gm
      @ChrisPBacon-zf5gm 2 года назад

      @@Hunted0LessShirt generally speaking due to back air being decently big and jiggs insane drift, bair not always being as low to the ground as possible doesn’t matter when even a higher up hit is safe enough to avoid fox up smash oos *before* you account for jigglypuffs drift. And this is one of her least safe aerials on sheild too, jiggs is a monster

  • @samuelsd7
    @samuelsd7 2 года назад +17

    As a Robin main, Robin is so underrated in the community. I wish more players would pick them up

    • @Tee_Wilson
      @Tee_Wilson 2 года назад +1

      I tried to main Robin at first when my family got ssbu on Christmas but I just gave up, now mained Corrin lol

    • @tacticixn
      @tacticixn 2 года назад

      same! robin is solid.

    • @G.H.M.
      @G.H.M. 2 года назад

      I live in Colorado and our 5th best player is a Robin main

    • @knox7945
      @knox7945 2 года назад

      Losing the checkmate combo really sucks. And not having the Levin Sword initially really sucks too. Dunno why they nerf him.

    • @Jackaljkljkl
      @Jackaljkljkl 2 года назад +1

      @@Tee_Wilson I went the opposite way, from Corrin to Robin.

  • @Brion15
    @Brion15 2 года назад +10

    Underrated characters pro players can’t admit just because of no results - link, ylink, banjo, bowser jr, corrin, Isabelle, villager, piranha plant, pichu, mii gunner, mii sword fighter, duckhunt, wii fit, megaman, lucario, robin, inkling.

    • @colinhoeg4728
      @colinhoeg4728 2 года назад +3

      A really good duck hunt is terrifying. It's like playing a cross between pac-man and snake. And it takes a big brain player to really go hard in the paint with him. But playing against a good one a lot really helps you get batter at all around stage awareness and not just focusing on 1 move at a time but several. Cause those big brain characters play chess with the right player.

    • @dingwer807
      @dingwer807 2 года назад +2

      Are there any other zoners in this game?

    • @colinhoeg4728
      @colinhoeg4728 2 года назад

      @@dingwer807 Belmonts, Samus, dark Samus, rob, zelda, villager, Isabelle, megaman.

    • @tumultoustortellini
      @tumultoustortellini 2 года назад

      @@dingwer807 olimar if they spam side-b from ledge

    • @dingwer807
      @dingwer807 2 года назад

      @@tumultoustortellini i was being sarcastic caus this list is mostly zoners

  • @Kreuzi44
    @Kreuzi44 2 года назад +34

    3:57 Did he just call TERRY an ANDY? That's actually hilarious! Also, today March 15, is Terry's Birhtday. Happy Birthday, Terry!

    • @herorhim
      @herorhim 2 года назад +3

      Calling someone a "*insert thing*" andy is twitch slang thing btw

    • @bluerexplaysgames722
      @bluerexplaysgames722 2 года назад +4

      @@herorhim Andy is Terry's brother.

  • @ShadekyuNTG
    @ShadekyuNTG 2 года назад +25

    people who say Hero isn't high tier due to his RNG don't know how his RNG works

    • @medecko4394
      @medecko4394 2 года назад +1

      True. But outside of his RNG gimmick on his magic, he can be a bit helpless having slow but fairly strong fair and bair, having a few spells that deny shield, and having a bit of edge-guard tactics plus a few combo strings with Upair and having buffs that if doubled can just erase shield. Hero is definitely strong, but needs more careful gameplay, having to pay a bit of attention to their MP, since if it goes out their upb goes down the drain a bit along with their spells. I feel most Hero’s use their menu a bit too much, and never try to go into other options, unless its the usual Fair and Bair, they don’t try ti find combos, like how Upair can lead into some stuff.

    • @ShadekyuNTG
      @ShadekyuNTG 2 года назад

      @@medecko4394 optimal Hero gameplay is more difficult than a lot of people see. just one of the multiple reasons I enjoy playing Hero, since I like characters who have access to technical stuff and have a good variety of tools (I main Hero and Mega Man, secondary Snake)

    • @medecko4394
      @medecko4394 2 года назад

      @@ShadekyuNTG I agree with this. I try to play a bit more optimal with this character, because I enjoy playing him that way.

  • @V8_Morgan
    @V8_Morgan 2 года назад +11

    Lucario is scary as hell.
    I’m afraid to hit him because of Aura. When he is on his last stock with high damage, he turns into a blue nuclear bomb.

    • @elitecombine5373
      @elitecombine5373 2 года назад +2

      This is the best description.

    • @jadenstewart8295
      @jadenstewart8295 2 года назад +2

      @Taelin Cusic Granted I don't think lucario is great either but when he's last stock, last hit and he starts camping/spamming neutral b its kind of annoying. Plus his roll is basically instant. Nonetheless, I wouldn't say he's underrated (he's still bad lol) but he is scary on last stock, last hit.

    • @jadenstewart8295
      @jadenstewart8295 2 года назад +3

      @Taelin Cusic That's the problem "hitting them with a bair". They just run away and wall you out with neutral b.

    • @V8_Morgan
      @V8_Morgan 2 года назад

      @Taelin Cusic The thing that gives me the most anxiety about fighting him is I don’t know if I am winning the match or the other person just doesn’t care about losing 2 stocks because they know once they get Aura going it’s gg’s.
      When it comes down to their last stock, I just send Luma out to handle business and stay away from the Furry Doctor Manhattan.

    • @knox7945
      @knox7945 2 года назад +1

      One grab with high percentage and aura, is death

  • @arthurboureau1364
    @arthurboureau1364 2 года назад +16

    Young Link is underrated, this character is sooo good !

    • @Electro4890
      @Electro4890 2 года назад +4

      Young link sleeper top 10

  • @Matter_Of_Fact
    @Matter_Of_Fact 2 года назад +63

    Corrin is the most underrated character imo
    Underrated (in this context) means like under the radar? Imo? Idk

    • @Lmb_kun
      @Lmb_kun 2 года назад +1

      I agree corrin is pretty underrated I'm no corrin main but I am good with them

    • @maximeminassian6002
      @maximeminassian6002 2 года назад +2

      As a proud Corrin main myself, I could not agree more with this statement

    • @TheLegend-jr9ng
      @TheLegend-jr9ng 2 года назад +1

      WaIt tHaT CaRaCtEr eXiStS?

    • @Matter_Of_Fact
      @Matter_Of_Fact 2 года назад +2

      @@maximeminassian6002 Samus main so i understand, but man i dont think i have ever beaten a Corrin in my life lmao

    • @Patukah1879
      @Patukah1879 2 года назад

      @@TheLegend-jr9ng omg it's you again, I love your pfp

  • @eyekahnzuya
    @eyekahnzuya 2 года назад +13

    Kazuya Mishima

  • @plushling6996
    @plushling6996 2 года назад +41

    Meta Knight is criminally underrated. Imagine if Bonk! gets better and good enough to contend with top 50 peeps. (Aside from beating WaDi and Zomba on some occasions)

    • @berk8513
      @berk8513 2 года назад +8

      By that logic you could say what if peanut gets better and starts winning with Little Mac. I agree that he’s under rated tho

    • @plushling6996
      @plushling6996 2 года назад +5

      I feel like Meta Knight is a lot more unoptimized and has more potential than mac. No disrespect towards Mac of course, but Peanut and Alternis aren't 3-0ing Chag like Yei did back in SWT CA RFs.

    • @Hunted0LessShirt
      @Hunted0LessShirt 2 года назад +1

      @Taelin Cusic That sounds like the evidence of him being underrated by at least this commenter. I don't know enough to say you're wrong but chances are he's better than "straight trash" so technically underrated by definition. In reality, it could be true to say, "he's fine but not worth using over either Jiggs or Pika", which is to say effectively trash but realistically decent. Idk, game is more balanced than we're used to discussing which makes things complicated.

    • @heartbreaker2485
      @heartbreaker2485 2 года назад

      You're correct even just looking at a MK match up chart you can see he is better then most people think. There is a lot more than just DA and ladder combos

    • @SmashSSL
      @SmashSSL 2 года назад

      Aged well

  • @Taqtik
    @Taqtik 2 года назад +5

    Every pro player underrates the hell out of Marth. That is no cap, Larry Lurr is correct. Marth is underrated as hell.

  • @MaceDoGe_
    @MaceDoGe_ 2 года назад +11

    I think Ken is kinda underrated, nobody really talks about him and vendetta is super good. He’s just one of those “touch of death” characters that can blow you up just by touching you

    • @ballertheking1038
      @ballertheking1038 2 года назад +2

      Ken was underrated like two months ago lol.

    • @MaceDoGe_
      @MaceDoGe_ 2 года назад +1

      @@ballertheking1038 True lol. but I still think he's pretty slept on

  • @aggressivefox454
    @aggressivefox454 2 года назад +4

    I was hoping for some Ridley talk. No character has punish game quite like Ridley. If you have a good read on someone they will die by whatever means you choose, no matter what percent or position on the stage. He’s also super fast, good at edge guarding, powerful, and has good combos. He just lacks weight and is large which scares everyone unfortunately. I’m biased though because he is my favorite character

    • @K0DA._.
      @K0DA._. Год назад

      Speaking of punish game, his up smash is ridiculous. It hits ALL of the bottom-level battlefield and small battlefield platforms, and the majority of the PS2 platforms. Smashville and Town and City also have a crazy amount of their platforms covered by one up smash. He doesn't even have to read you perfectly; if he remotely guesses what you're going to do at kill percent, and you AREN'T in a location out of his up-smash's range, you're just dead. Straight up. He's a swordie who is just worse because he's larger and doesn't have the amount of disjoints. If he was heavier and had disjoints on more moves, the man would be high tier, easily.

  • @mathewlevitsky8714
    @mathewlevitsky8714 2 года назад +16

    I feel like honestly mega man probably should have made the list considering players like kameme and he can just zone like crazy and be nearly untouchable against most characters

  • @anacreon212
    @anacreon212 2 года назад +62

    would like to see coney in more of these discussions

    • @colinhoeg4728
      @colinhoeg4728 2 года назад +14

      His takes are some of the best out of the whole channel honestly.

    • @ElariaFlori
      @ElariaFlori 2 года назад +9

      @Taelin Cusic Damn too bad no one gave a fuck

  • @Alipoke658
    @Alipoke658 2 года назад +20

    Honestly I believe Greninja is underrated popularity wise

    • @colinhoeg4728
      @colinhoeg4728 2 года назад +8

      He just plays super unique. No out of shield options and not being a zoner is probly weird for a lot of ppl. I tried picking him up as a pocket and while I actually think he's super good, I personally just couldn't click with him. But I love his design. He doesn't play like anyone else on the roster really.

    • @rcquestions6342
      @rcquestions6342 2 года назад +7

      @@colinhoeg4728 couldn’t agree more! Him lacking a good out of shield option really sets him in his spot

    • @orikrasnovsky8317
      @orikrasnovsky8317 2 года назад +3

      I used to main him in smash 4. He was infinitly cooler back then, probably my favorite smash character ever. Still one of the sickest characters in ultimate, even though I hate playing as him. But hey at least he's better now.

    • @michaelcross7665
      @michaelcross7665 2 года назад +1

      Greninja underrated? Europe thinks he's top tier apparently

    • @jjslide1
      @jjslide1 2 года назад +2

      Yeah i was like where is greninja and lucario

  • @cherrypepsicola7813
    @cherrypepsicola7813 2 года назад +16

    I’m happy jiggs is getting more recognition

  • @azrielkiba3349
    @azrielkiba3349 2 года назад +3

    I like how Esam said you’re not gonna see a bottom 5 character get a win on high tier pros yet that’s already happened with Ganon lmao

  • @solarbreak
    @solarbreak 2 года назад +18

    I disagree with esam saying Rosa gets worse over time. I feel once players master her attack cancels and wavelands, but also play more aggressive, she will be noticed.

    • @albertonolasco9721
      @albertonolasco9721 2 года назад +4

      Rosa definitely needs more time to learn than the average fighter, i don´t think she´s bad just hard to play, and that makes her fall into the reason of "Why would I main this duet when i could be spamming Min Min´s fsmash".

    • @medecko4394
      @medecko4394 2 года назад

      @@albertonolasco9721 I understand the whole “Min Min only uses arms and nothing else” thing, but don’t underestimate every Min Min, usually she’s just downplayed with players only using her usual stuff to their advantages, and almost barely try to use her saucy combos. She has decent combos and a 0-to death, which I’m surprised most haven’t gotten into by now.

  • @salvatorepepe4954
    @salvatorepepe4954 2 года назад +34

    Terry is not underestimated in my opinion. He is solid character. The thing is that when you find a terry who can't play he only uses A and then powerdonk (often done with down B), but if you finds a person who knows how to play it, the B key becomes useless because all moves are replaced by the best versions with inputs.

    • @Omega-mf9kj
      @Omega-mf9kj 2 года назад +1

      the b button with command input is stronger than the a button with command inputs.

    • @eaa1338
      @eaa1338 2 года назад +1

      @@Omega-mf9kj not it’s not. The B and A buttons do the exact same thing for inputs.

    • @CD_babyy
      @CD_babyy 2 года назад

      Only time I ever use the B button for Terry is power wave, which for some reason kill confirms into dash attack

  • @dylanbigham9941
    @dylanbigham9941 2 года назад +9

    Probably a bit biased but I think Mii Gunner is a little underrated. Grenade is INSANE on shield (+10) allowing for free grab and Homing Missiles have decent combo potential.

  • @LooseCo
    @LooseCo 2 года назад +6

    One of these days, poor Esam is gonna pass out from forgetting to breath during one of his rants

  • @zoro-sn1zy
    @zoro-sn1zy 2 года назад +9

    Marth is very underrated. It's just that nobody wants to take the time to develop him because Lucina's better and easier to use.

    • @greedo194
      @greedo194 2 года назад +1

      Check out Ignaize

  • @nerdyfalco408
    @nerdyfalco408 2 года назад +1

    WaDi is that kind of guy to complain about Bayonetta's smash attacks because they're huge, to then proceed to spam down tilt with R.O.B.

  • @slam6802
    @slam6802 2 года назад +15

    My favorite part of the video is listening to Wadi talk about Mewtwo’s tail never really getting hit with gameplay of Mewtwo’s tail getting hit over and over in the background

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei 2 года назад +1

      I mean, he wasn't really in the replay.

    • @slam6802
      @slam6802 2 года назад

      @@StriderZessei I mean, he was tho??

    • @StriderZessei
      @StriderZessei 2 года назад +1

      @@slam6802 at no point in the replay did WaDi get hit *because of the tail's hitbox.* Seriously, watch it again.

    • @slam6802
      @slam6802 2 года назад

      @@StriderZessei he just literally did

  • @dementedgastly5050
    @dementedgastly5050 2 года назад +8

    The Pits. They're good. Not great, but I'm sure they would do better if more people actually cared. It's just "why play the Pits when you can play a character that's better?" They just need more players. And for people to remember them. Also Corrin is constantly forgotten but pretty good.

    • @samblanton9010
      @samblanton9010 2 года назад

      Totally agree. They have basically no representation lately, but they have some stuff. Nair is busted and they've got some good combos. Gimping with Pit's arrows is one of my favorite things to do in the game.

    • @M9Divine
      @M9Divine 2 года назад +2

      @@samblanton9010 his nair hitbox tho......yikes

    • @hambughrr8186
      @hambughrr8186 2 года назад

      For Corrin and the Pits, I don't think the issue is "Why play Corrin or the Pits when you can play a character that's better?", I think it's "Why Play Corrin or the Pits when you can play a character with more standout qualities?"

    • @aji.n
      @aji.n 2 года назад

      With pit it goes back to why play him when there is characters with similar tools but better e.g. palu he is too honest I say this as someone who mains palu and use to main d.pit

    • @willycheez7218
      @willycheez7218 2 года назад

      They're high tier

  • @VideoCentral-bh9tf
    @VideoCentral-bh9tf 2 года назад +11

    I believe that mii gunner is probably the most underrated charcter.

    • @unsaltedmixednuts8036
      @unsaltedmixednuts8036 2 года назад +2

      Capitaincito go brrrr

    • @VideoCentral-bh9tf
      @VideoCentral-bh9tf 2 года назад

      @@unsaltedmixednuts8036 not even that, I don't even thing capi is using gunner to their max potential. As good as capitancito is, the use of only one set makes gunner have more bad MUs that she should have.

  • @bootychaaaaain
    @bootychaaaaain 2 года назад +5

    Robin is highly underrated. Most underrated champion in the game hands down. Not even a fire emblem fan. That character is just busted

    • @iamhe9826
      @iamhe9826 2 года назад

      So much potential to be crazy

    • @tumultoustortellini
      @tumultoustortellini 2 года назад

      He's too slow. Gets torn apart by explosive or fast characters and isn't a good enough zoner to even go even w/ other zoners. Most of his stuff is reactible or predictable

    • @hambughrr8186
      @hambughrr8186 2 года назад

      Robin is easily the worst resource-based character in the game simply because he/she cannot consistently replenish their greatest tools like Hero or Steve can, and also has the weakest tools to compensate for lackluster mobility, a big, but common weakness amongst these types of characters.

    • @linkonedgell894
      @linkonedgell894 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, at My locals there is a very good Robin, it's a good thing she stunk at teching walls so only had to hit her off the stage once before easily stage spiking her.

  • @poke4074
    @poke4074 2 года назад +2

    Inkling is underrated not because of being weak (They aren't) It's because nobody ever uses them, I fell like I'm one of the only Inkling mains

    • @justice8718
      @justice8718 2 года назад

      They are replaced by Mythra for a reason.

  • @myballshurt616
    @myballshurt616 2 года назад +1

    This is a really good video to watch on silent, it's like esam is the mom and the other two are defiant little boys

  • @BoBnfishy
    @BoBnfishy 2 года назад

    I love the random skyjay love in all these videos. Like every now and then someone just takes a moment to appreciate my dude and it's so wholesome.

  • @akkid8916
    @akkid8916 2 года назад +7

    corrin is underrated

  • @HealingSlime
    @HealingSlime 2 года назад +3

    Didn't even mention Pit? An actual crime. Character is SUPER underrated

    • @aji.n
      @aji.n 2 года назад

      Definitely I think he is high tier he is just soild overall but I agree with him being too honest ngl

  • @yacobo4397
    @yacobo4397 2 года назад +6

    "Yoshi players just hold forward and press a"
    What else is he supposed to do? His shitty risky grab thats unrewarding? His projectile that doesnt hit unless the opponent is holding forward?

    • @Hunted0LessShirt
      @Hunted0LessShirt 2 года назад

      It's a good point but: Mix up attack timing (eg. Tomahawk jab or nair with/without fast falling), whiff punish, platform camp when ahead, B-reverse or wavebounce neutral B... Agreed that his options aren't all amazing but the point is that Yoshi's have a tendency to play with their hand face up which makes the counterplay more simple to execute.

    • @aji.n
      @aji.n 2 года назад +1

      I gotta disagree on egg throw it is telegraphed but in the first place I don't think it should be used as a straight projectile the same way wolf uses lazer its more used for combo extensions mix ups and coving landings and even as a combo starter i say this as I have a friend who mains yoshi and this is what I see him doing

    • @Mr.Galaxxxxxxxxxxy
      @Mr.Galaxxxxxxxxxxy 2 года назад

      @@aji.n eggs are pretty good defensively as well. Not like a spammy way tho. Timing is important

    • @aji.n
      @aji.n 2 года назад

      @@Mr.Galaxxxxxxxxxxy yeah if you just spam then you can get hard punished coz its kinda laggy if you miss right in their face lol

    • @eragon78
      @eragon78 2 года назад

      @@Mr.Galaxxxxxxxxxxy You can also use eggs to pressure and follow up to force reactions.
      Yoshi has a ton of air mobility, so if you are holding forward and throw an egg in front of you, you can force your opponent to react to the egg, and then punish that reaction. Maybe they shield and you grab, maybe they swat it and you whiff punish, maybe they get hit by it and you confirm, maybe they dodge and you frame trap. Lots of options.
      Egg toss is definitely very good on yoshi due to his high air mobility and dangerous combo starters.

  • @andrewtaylor5883
    @andrewtaylor5883 2 года назад +2

    Honest to God top UR Characters:
    -Isabelle (the TILTS are fantastic and are different from Villager)
    -Ridley
    -Sephiroth (will continue to rise on tier list)

    • @eragon78
      @eragon78 2 года назад

      Ridley is super underated. People act like he's bottom 10 or something but he's actually really solid. He has a fantastic neutral, good edge guarding tools, good range, good kills, a fantastic command grab, and he's pretty fast too, top 10 in ground run speed, and a good recovery too in MOST match ups (its not the best vs counters, but between side B and 3 jumps, he has enough mix ups where its usually not TOO bad)
      The only real issues he has are he has a massive hurtbox while also not being super heavy for how large his hurtbox is. And he also have a not great disadvantage because his fasted get off me option is nair which is frame 8 so he has to rely a lot on air dodge which can easily be frame trapped due to his large size.
      I personally think Ridley is a solid mid tier. Potentially even an upper-mid tier with more research and development. But he isnt anywhere close to low tier like many people seem to think he is.

  • @victorpena8356
    @victorpena8356 2 года назад +29

    I absolutely agree with bayonetta being underrated. is a character who suffers too much from what she used to be.
    if we pretend that smash4 bayonetta does not exist, bayo now would be recognized as an excellent character.
    one of the best combos in the entire game, her specials in the air are very difficult to challenge and completely nullifies a lot of characters.
    it has some problems here and there but even high tiers do have flaws...
    ...I'm really scared that people will start to realize what a good character she can be.

    • @Royges
      @Royges 2 года назад +4

      The same applies to Cloud people highly underrated that character and I'm not saying this because of resent results. Cloud is stupid good.

    • @firemin5398
      @firemin5398 2 года назад +5

      @@Royges cloud wasn’t even underrated before recent results what are you on

    • @Robbie_Haruna
      @Robbie_Haruna 2 года назад +4

      @@firemin5398 he was if we listen to Cloud mains 😂

    • @Royges
      @Royges 2 года назад +2

      @@firemin5398 oh no? Cloud has always been underrated

    • @TheFullPackage
      @TheFullPackage 2 года назад +3

      @@firemin5398 A few top players including Esam had Cloud in mid tier or bottom high tier not even that long ago

  • @IWish2500
    @IWish2500 2 года назад +1

    1:55 ESAM looking at nonexistent watch to say two years really does it for me

  • @TacoToday4
    @TacoToday4 2 года назад +1

    The background music to the commentary is great

  • @kylesantos5536
    @kylesantos5536 2 года назад +2

    I’d love to see a BEST/WORST DESIGNED characters tier list!

  • @Imprez2564
    @Imprez2564 2 года назад +1

    The short Terry conversation is funny because of Riddles' recent placing

  • @Mattadork
    @Mattadork 2 года назад +5

    9:35 wadi: i rarely get into situations where my tail gets hit, you wanna know why? because i am good...
    9:56 wadi gets his tail hit by sephiroth down air. no wadi it's not because "you're good" you DO get your tail hit, you just don't notice it because you play big characters often, the tail gets hit all the time, in juggle situations, it causes you to get combo'd in situations where you should be getting combo'd, it isn't even really the fault of there being a tail hurtbox, it is slightly disjointed, it's more a problem of where mewtwo keeps his tail in his animations, when he turns around or runs away, it sticks straight out toward the enemy instead of stay right up on him, when he is in falling animation, he spins with it slightly extended past his body for all to hit, and during all his tail moves he extends a slightly disjointed move out to be hit by something that is more disjointed. anyway rant done

    • @Mattadork
      @Mattadork 2 года назад

      also most people i've talked to, have said and agreed he is in high tier, including myself, i don't think i've ever heard someone say mewtwo is bad o.o

    • @linkonedgell894
      @linkonedgell894 2 года назад

      Yeah, the tail sticking out makes him way worse, but you have to admit he looks awesome while doing it. A tail stuck to his back would look weird

    • @Mattadork
      @Mattadork 2 года назад

      @@linkonedgell894 eh it wouldn't look weird, tails are meant to be moved, i'm under the view that mewtwo could pull his tail in at least when he runs, there is no reason for him to let it hang loose lol, even my dogs don't do that with their tails.

    • @Mattadork
      @Mattadork 2 года назад

      @@linkonedgell894 and then mewtwo still has it stick out for all his aerials because obviously he does, i think it would look fine

    • @linkonedgell894
      @linkonedgell894 2 года назад

      @@Mattadork well like, think of ridley fair, the way he keeps his tail all coiled up instead of stretching all the way out make it look unnatural. Don't get me wrong for game play purposes it would definitely be best for him to hold it in but it would make him look a little awkward and closterphobic

  • @FloetryFox88
    @FloetryFox88 2 года назад +2

    DK is definitely underrated in the way that if more people were willing to use him more in Competitive bracket, the more people will see hes at least Mid Tier. Slushie got 24th at Glitch with him and I know more can do the same or better

  • @slick_rickgaming1102
    @slick_rickgaming1102 2 года назад +33

    I gotta say...after what I experienced the other day, Shulk is underrated as hell! Once you got the monado arts down and monado canceling, that character is scary to deal with

    • @colinhoeg4728
      @colinhoeg4728 2 года назад +40

      I don't necessarily think he's underrated. But instead under-used. He's like pokemon trainer. Absolutely insane in almost every way but the commitment it takes to optimize him to a competitive level is just as insane. Granted with the game being out as long as it has I'm surprised we haven't seen more in PGR.

    • @slick_rickgaming1102
      @slick_rickgaming1102 2 года назад +16

      @@colinhoeg4728 I think you said it right there: people would rather spend a few hours on aegis waifus or Mario or a swordy, then full on commit to learning others we don't see (p Trainer, shulk, peach/daisy)

    • @jjwatson499
      @jjwatson499 2 года назад +1

      @@slick_rickgaming1102 can you blame them?

    • @Wizard_Lizard_
      @Wizard_Lizard_ 2 года назад +2

      People call Shulk Top Tier. How is that underrated?

    • @colinhoeg4728
      @colinhoeg4728 2 года назад +2

      @@slick_rickgaming1102 yeah. And I mean there's nothing wrong with that. It might just be cause of the micromanagement with the arts. Or cause he's annoying to listen to. Lol who knows.

  • @swbracere
    @swbracere 2 года назад

    I just paused the video at 16:38 because I had to go take my dogs outside, and when I looked at my screen, it looked like I was being judged by all three Panda's for three different reasons LOL

  • @knox7945
    @knox7945 2 года назад +1

    Yoshi is definitely underrated, his tilts leads to combos and his ground pound on the ground can shatter shields.

  • @l.a.rodriguez9581
    @l.a.rodriguez9581 2 года назад +1

    Corrin for sure. I recently picked her up after watching MkLeo and Shadic and I’m liking her so far.

  • @duffy7993
    @duffy7993 4 месяца назад

    I know I'm rewatching this like 500 days later. But Bowser Jr. Is underrated and a great matchup check.

  • @Thecurseofsanity
    @Thecurseofsanity 2 года назад +2

    Banjo is underrated as hell

  • @goof5834
    @goof5834 2 года назад +2

    Personally I've always felt like lucas has potential to go even with ness, he's got so many good tools and great ledgetrapping and edgeguarding, a truly wonderful mu spread, meaning he's one of the few "low tiers" that doesn't lose every mu in the book.

  • @Snasedstuff
    @Snasedstuff 2 года назад

    Mega Man is hella underrated. He is the pinnacle of balance. Good but not broken projectiles, combos and recovery. For me, this is all I want

  • @zacharyalford8185
    @zacharyalford8185 2 года назад +18

    My biggest take would have to be corrin. She feels like worse byleth, but she has great conversions as her aerials link nicely with each other, uair frame traps, and side b closes out stocks at outrageous percents. Again, slow, but if you get those openings she can thrive

    • @rurounijay7100
      @rurounijay7100 2 года назад +3

      Yeah maybe if byleth was slightly faster, floatie and a pure swordie, i can kinda see the comparison. I still feel like at the end of the day theres too much of a difference tho

    • @sauce8277
      @sauce8277 2 года назад +1

      Idk. At a top level, she gets gimped so easily by way too many characters. Her back air is ridiculous though

    • @zacharyalford8185
      @zacharyalford8185 2 года назад +1

      @@sauce8277 yeah, her up b is so bad, it trades or loses to everything offstage, and is too slow to be an oos option

    • @gianz2066
      @gianz2066 2 года назад

      @@zacharyalford8185 really? I think shadic can mix up corrins recovery very efficient

    • @zacharyalford8185
      @zacharyalford8185 2 года назад

      @@gianz2066 not implying he's bad at it, but even with the small adjustments, corrins up b is pretty simple to edgeguard regardless. The head is very prone to getting stomped on, and trades often, which is never a benefit to corrin

  • @arcangel6974
    @arcangel6974 2 года назад +1

    Pit/Dark Pit Maybe? I mean I main those characters. I don't see any gameplay of them most of the time in tournaments, or see them talked about very often. I'd just love for them to have more recognition

  • @maximeminassian6002
    @maximeminassian6002 Год назад

    4:43: this statement aged incredibly well

  • @camusreviews6877
    @camusreviews6877 2 года назад +5

    “No one plays Samus”
    Right, besides Icymist, Sisqui, Quik, Teaser, sometimes WaDi
    Weren’t there like 3 in top 12 of LMBM?

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic 2 года назад +3

      4

    • @derrickdavis3888
      @derrickdavis3888 2 года назад

      Are you sure about that?

    • @thundercharged1
      @thundercharged1 2 года назад +1

      Don't forget Toura and Yaura in Japan, all in contention for the best.

    • @eragon78
      @eragon78 2 года назад

      @@thundercharged1 Joker (mexico) also played samus for a little bit before he started playing other charcters.

    • @thundercharged1
      @thundercharged1 2 года назад

      Joker still plays Samus, he just doesn't compete as much anymore.

  • @sheng-3567
    @sheng-3567 2 года назад +2

    Remember when Ultimate came out and everyone just straight up put Sonic Mid/Low tier and now a lot of people put him in High/Top tier or even top 5?

    • @gabrielabrera9966
      @gabrielabrera9966 2 года назад

      That happened to a lot of characters. Sheik and Falcon were considered low mid tiers, Mii Brawler was practically irrelevant to the meta (just to name a few). Then with a mix of patches and people labbing the characters, they’re all in high tier, maybe in contention for top tier.

  • @pyromaniac000000
    @pyromaniac000000 2 года назад +1

    Ganon is the most underrated. People act like hes the worst but ganon has a 50/50 win rate against every character, because ganon kills the entire roster at like 50%, and all ut takes is one good read and one smash attack and your stock is gone

  • @karanveersehra6336
    @karanveersehra6336 2 года назад

    Y’all are goats for using a Fire Emblem three houses song

  • @HiImAiden
    @HiImAiden 2 года назад

    Its crazy how much beter CONEY's mic is compared to the others

  • @totodile9923
    @totodile9923 2 года назад +1

    As an Incineroar main I will die on the hill that Incineroar is so underrated

  • @neoomegashadow448
    @neoomegashadow448 2 года назад +1

    there is some many underrated character like
    duck hunt
    Lucas
    corrin
    pit
    ice climbers
    MegaMan
    wii fit trainer
    Lucario
    pichu
    toon link
    meta knight
    and mii sword fighter that i hate playing this character
    but i agree with them like two character that i strongly i agree shulk and rosalina they are strongly underrated chraracters . but great video panda !

  • @Wizard_Lizard_
    @Wizard_Lizard_ 2 года назад +2

    Samus, Pit, Jigglypuff, Hero and Lucas are by far the most underrated characters in this game imo.

    • @GuentersHoerspielstube
      @GuentersHoerspielstube 2 года назад

      Is Samus underrated? At least in my region people think that character is like Top 20

    • @JusticeForFocalor
      @JusticeForFocalor 2 года назад

      I see Lucas the whole time. I sure wish he was underrated. 90% of then just want to make your life miserable.

  • @ashton5061
    @ashton5061 Год назад +1

    WaDi actually called out Bayo, wow

  • @rafaelblackman9879
    @rafaelblackman9879 2 года назад +1

    I think Mega Man is super underrated. Almost nobody plays him despite how good he is. Sure, there’s a few Japanese and European players but they don’t get the best results.

  • @fupalover
    @fupalover 2 года назад +1

    1. Marth
    2. Rosa
    3. Hero
    4. Greninja
    5. Toon Link
    6. Mewtwo (Ehh)
    7. Yoshi
    8. Corrin
    9. Lucina
    10. Pits
    Lowkey wanna say Link

  • @castform7
    @castform7 2 года назад +4

    I feel like Brawler just gets lumped in with the other Miis in the "nobody cares" pile. I think he can do some damage.

    • @thevgmlover
      @thevgmlover 2 года назад +1

      From what I've seen, people are downright hostile to these characters even existing in the game, and holy crap, WHERE did this come from? It can't be because they were considered low tier in Smash 4.

    • @tw1stymint
      @tw1stymint 2 года назад

      @@thevgmlover it's because they wasted the time and space for three separate characters on 1 idea no one really wanted. We could of had three unique video game reps that people have been requesting since melee and instead we wound up with them

    • @thevgmlover
      @thevgmlover 2 года назад

      @@tw1stymint They still could've filled the spaces with requested characters if they wanted. I truly think the Mii Characters deserve a much better reputation than that.

    • @tw1stymint
      @tw1stymint 2 года назад

      @@thevgmlover They didn't though and I wouldn't hate on the miis as much if it was just one character like only brawler or only swordsman but they used the time and energy for three characters on them instead of adding another game rep. It's the same reason why everyone hated byleth. Like is having three separate mii characters worth missing out on a character like hollow knight, dante, bandana dee, waluigi, midna, chun-li, or shy guy to name a few

    • @tw1stymint
      @tw1stymint 2 года назад

      @@thevgmlover Also I'm not trying to hate on the miis in particular I also hate that lucina, chrom, breath of the wild link, and greninja exist and I don't really like incineroar, robin, corron, byleth, rosalina, and bowser jr either. We already had enough fire emblem mario, and pokemon without them but at least those six have unique playstyles that didn't already exist. Link is on the list because there were already two links and zelda had so many different options to go for

  • @TonyDupre
    @TonyDupre 2 года назад +1

    Ness actually is kinda underrated

  • @plainkapp
    @plainkapp 2 года назад +3

    Mario and lucina are in the same pot .....DEFINITELY definitely definitely top tier....but you just don't see them any more
    Shulk is 100% top tier but I assume he's kinda difficult to stay consistent with at top level

    • @plainkapp
      @plainkapp 2 года назад

      Jigglypuff and incineroar are seen as bottom tiers when there's good arguments to be made for them to be mid-ish

  • @TurtonatorGuy
    @TurtonatorGuy 2 года назад +2

    The conclusion I got from this is that there isn’t really any clear/significantly underrated characters, because they all seem good.
    My vote is Megaman, but I’m no top player so I might be missing a lot. Shulk came to mind too but apparently people think he’s good? I wouldn’t be surprised if Shulk was overrated tbh, he’s weird like that.

  • @stormRed
    @stormRed 2 года назад +1

    A good format for this would be a political compass with the four axes being: overrated-underrated, and high tier-low tier

  • @TboneUSA07
    @TboneUSA07 2 года назад +1

    My underrated charcters: (Not ordered)
    1. Sheik
    2. Lucina
    3. Samus
    4.Yoshi
    5. Mewtwo
    6. Sonic
    7. Bowser Jr.
    8. Ryu
    9. Corrin
    10. Incineroar
    11. Jigglypuff

  • @redlikerubes_
    @redlikerubes_ 2 года назад +1

    Surprised ESAM didn’t mention Corrin

  • @R3nz0-_-
    @R3nz0-_- 2 года назад +1

    you guys have to start a podcast

  • @SuperNobody64
    @SuperNobody64 2 года назад

    Pacman is continuously slept on

  • @kiwifluorite
    @kiwifluorite 5 месяцев назад

    ngl these nightcore versions of smash songs are awesome

  • @jesskady1585
    @jesskady1585 2 года назад +1

    The MOST underrated: CORRIN!!!

  • @DedikateSSB
    @DedikateSSB 2 года назад +3

    I think there are a ton of underrated characters. I think there are only about 25 to 30 characters mid tier and below. Jigglypuff is good, Bayo is good, Corrin is great, Lucas is great, Young Link is super top tier that character can do absolutely everything and do it well, Toon Link is good, Link is top tier, Ike is super close to top tier, Greninja is top tier, Sheik is top tier, oooo this one is probably by far the most disagreed with one but Falco is fucking incredible, Falco is as close to top tier as possible, Game & Watch is top 5, Chrom is top tier (i think most people agree but he is criminally underplayed), the pits overall aren't underrated but i do think Dark Pit is better, Robin is bottom of high tier, i used to main Robin and i have to say they are so good, side B, Levin sword and neutral B are so broken. There are some other slightly underrated characters but ive gone on long enough. I will answer any questions if i get the notification.

  • @Tonjit41
    @Tonjit41 2 года назад

    4:04 * Admits to never SDIing *

  • @sussyfartbakallllol
    @sussyfartbakallllol 2 года назад

    villager and isabelle are extremely underrated, easy to use and easy to knock people off the map and have amazing combos and powerful moves

  • @itsdex2321
    @itsdex2321 2 года назад +2

    Marss looking kinda different today

  • @de.k8918
    @de.k8918 2 года назад

    My main WiiFit is hella underrated. When I enter local tournaments I get laughed on for playing them. Until i show them what the character can do.

  • @dagrimmdoctor357
    @dagrimmdoctor357 2 года назад

    Corrin is pretty underrated I want to know what most people think in terms of robin being underrated because I think she is

  • @the_godbodor7026
    @the_godbodor7026 2 года назад

    Glad that the Panda guys think Puff, Incin, and Rosa are underrated cause I love playing them. I also tend to play Samus and the Miis every now and then (except I don’t really care for gunner as much as sword or brawler).

  • @jkahl5596
    @jkahl5596 2 года назад

    Corrin, duck hunt, lucas, Marth, ice climbers, and lucario is who I'd say is underated

  • @ashleyholloway6993
    @ashleyholloway6993 2 года назад

    I love hearing them say Yoshi just holds forward as a Yoshi player who camps with egg toss

  • @TehSymbiote
    @TehSymbiote 2 года назад

    I'm thowing Nicko's name in the ring for dope Shulk players

  • @therealatg8761
    @therealatg8761 2 года назад +1

    Personally I think young link is very underrated and same with ness

  • @TheSnakeYouCanTrust
    @TheSnakeYouCanTrust 2 года назад +1

    how was megaman not mentioned.

  • @RainbowAceOfSpades
    @RainbowAceOfSpades 2 года назад +1

    Needs Corrin!

  • @morgydee
    @morgydee 2 года назад +4

    10:30 Mewtwo discussion: WaDi took a set of Sparg0 with Mewtwo at Riptide which is kinda crazy, Mewtwo is definitely underrated considering how little the character is played at almost every level

    • @chewyhazerd3587
      @chewyhazerd3587 2 года назад

      Yeah Mewtwo is a very good “feels-good” character to pick up until you get hit in the tail because you don’t play Mewtwo and you’re a masher

  • @Mike223istaken
    @Mike223istaken 2 года назад

    "Every character can do something cool in this game"
    *Slowly looks at Min-Min*
    Yeah sure

  • @BubbaBrons
    @BubbaBrons 2 года назад

    *Wadi and ESAM agreeing on characters with smart arguments and good ideas*
    Coney: Nah, they suck ass.
    Honestly he’s spittin

  • @mikeychrisanthus9948
    @mikeychrisanthus9948 2 года назад +3

    Marth. There is very little reason to play him because he’s outclassed, but he’s not bottom 5

    • @derrickdavis3888
      @derrickdavis3888 2 года назад

      Umm.. You forgot that he mention focusing on the tipper reads or center.

    • @zacharyalford8185
      @zacharyalford8185 2 года назад

      If you learn to space, he can work. Everyone just too lazy to put in the hours when they can play Aegis or lucina

    • @mikeychrisanthus9948
      @mikeychrisanthus9948 2 года назад

      @@zacharyalford8185 ultimate is too fast of a game to make that a task consistently within reason. He’s debatably the most inconsistent character. Having said that, the better part of him destroys people.

  • @obiwankenobi1335
    @obiwankenobi1335 2 года назад +3

    Robin