yeah,the non cutting portion of the blade on the Delica doesn't make sense....Thats an ugly thing nick has never talked about.The truth is that a Delica is a great knife to carry but not so much to use.
@@jackrabbit4907 The solution to that would be the Ganzo F759 which is a nicer version of the Meadowlark with a better blade steel (440c). It's also more inexpensive at $13.
I bought the G10 version of this knife, and it is awesome! with the exception of the blade steel, it is every bit as good as my Delica, and I won't cry as many tears if I lose the Byrd Meadowlark 2. I liked this knfe so much, I went out and bought the G10 Cara Cara 2 instead of the G10 Endura.
A month??? I have been been carrying my " cheap knockoff" Meadowlark for three years, and the clip has not folded over on itself, my seatbelt hasn't ripped it from my jeans pocket, the scales haven't broken or fallen off, and the blade hasn't broken. It is true that it doesn't hold an edge for very long, but that hasn't been a problem. I hit it with a ceramic rod once a week and it's good to go -- and that's with daily use. At today's prices for the Spiderco Delica on Amazon, I can buy four of these $20 Byrd knives. I call that a good value!!!
I dont know about 2016 but now in 2020 you can buy a Byrd robin 2, Byrd cara cara 2 & a Byrd meadowlark 2 for the price (1$ more) of a Spyderco Delica! That's a no brainer....time to order that Meadowlark 2
The Delica is absurdly overpriced for what is basically a 30 year old design with no major modern updates. If I could find one for $50 or less, I'd try it. But for the $80-90 they're going for now, there are a LOT of other options that I'd rather have.
I usually agree with your takes Nick, I'm a giant knife guy too and a big fan...But your take on this one is way off imo. Find me a better quality $20 pocket knife. The fit and finish of the Byrd knives are remarkable for what you pay. As for 8cr, I'd much rather a steel that needs sharpened more frequently but sharpens easily than say S35VN, that is an absolute pain to put an edge back on. I'm a Sebenza owner so I understand where you're coming from, but dude...these things are awesome value!
I have one of these knives and I honestly love it. It doesn't feel as nice as my Delica but it serves a very specific purpose for me. As I was leaving work the other evening another co-worker had the late shift and forgot her knife and and was struggling with a bunch of packages so I handed her this pocket knife and went home and didn't worry about weather or not it would get damaged or lost because it only cost $20 bucks. I did get it back the next morning in perfect working order, but I can say I probably wouldn't have given up my Delica because it's a much more expensive knife. Personally I think it it's a great knife from a reputable company and I would rather spend $20 bucks on a name brand knife that I trust over some no name knife I've never heard of. Not everyone needs, will or can spend 60 or 70 bucks for a pocket knife but everyone should have an affordable reliable pocket knife. Just my opinion and that is only worth what you paid for it which is $0.00 and if I'm honest I think the Delica is a great knife but in my opinion over priced by about $20.00 and feels cheap to me when I compare it to my Cold Steel for the same money...
The non-chamfered grips on the Meadowlark 2 drive me crazy. How hard would putting a slight curve on the edge of the FRN have been? It seems all the FRN handled byrds are like that. But the stainless steel and titanium ones are chamfered
I feel guilty.. but I prefer my Cara Cara to my $150 special edition Endura 4. I think a lot of it has to do with how similar they are but it costs 1/4 the price. So I can use it freely however I want, which I will not do with my expensive knives. This guy was wayyyy to hard on them. If all I saw was this review I’d never have bought one. So, guys keep in mind this dude is a professional that deals with super nice blades.. so him seeing a knife that an everyday guy can use they are “garbage” He’s 100% wrong on the quality and feel but whatever.. to each their own. He’s kinda an arrogant prick if I’m being honest, lol.
I disagree on a few points, or maybe you got a bad one. The plastic doesn't feel particularly cheap to me, the clip feels solid, and the hole on mine isn't sharp. As a disclaimer, mine's actually a hawkbill, but it should be a blade shape variant of the same knife. The handle looks the same. My main gripe is actually how the textured handle collects grime. I don't particularly like 8cr13mov but for $20 I can't complain.
The Delica is not a $60 knife in my book. Albeit my book, but my book also notes that a Cold Steel Code 4 S-35VN steel and G10 scales is about the same price as a Delica.
I've had a cara cara 2 for 2 years. It's not pretty, but it works. It certainly lasted longer than 2 months. That being said, it has been supplanted by a Raven 2 and a rat 1.
I have 3 Byrd knives including 2 Meadowlark v2 (plain + combo edge) and they came razor sharp. Also got Delicas in my collection and to be honest I don't find much difference between the knives except the price. The Delica is 3-4 times more expensive than the Byrd where I live (Norway)........Really impressed with my Byrds given the "low" price but as a collector I don't compromise. You need all.
I like the Byrd knives. I just got a Byrd Harrier 2, and it seems pretty good. I did have to use the file on certain spots, though, to knock down sharp edges.
My Byrd Meadowlark Ti sprint run is a fantastic piece; extremely well made, thin, good-looking. 8Cr is too bad but really it's fine for office carry, which is where I use it.
I bought a Bird at a time when I thought it was a Spyderco and wouldn't pay a lot for a knife. The Delica was over twice as much. The Bird was inexpensive and serviceable. The thumb hole had sharp edges but, what can you expect for the price. I won't be buying another since I finally bought a CRK Sabenza which I thought I would never do. My taste has changed and I am enjoying the fit, finish and quality of my higher priced knives. I still buy value priced knives. I really like my RAT II. It's just a matter of where your taste, budget and priorities are. Just make sure you always have a knife with you at all times. I feel naked without one.
I bought the Byrd meadowlark it's a great knife for the money and I had no problem with the edge and the plastic is nice it's a 20 dollar knife and u must've got a bad clip mine was solid and my screws were recesed and mine came razor
Actually there was an edge retention test between 8Cr13mov and S30V spyderco knives on youtube, and the result was almost identical. So I'm not sure if based on experience we could conclude that the 8Cr13mov is barely acceptable... anyone who tested this? Maybe compared to VG-10?
Nick, Outstanding video once again. I purchased the Meadowlark 2 because I wanted a Delica with a finger choil. As you know, this was a big mistake, and now after owning several Delica-like knives, I realize that I didn't even need the choil. You didn't talk about the blade centering (which is always to the left on every-one's Meadowlark...) and blade lockup. I took mine apart to make it smoother, and found a lot of problems with the plastic inside the scale. I sanded these areas down and the knife opens smoother but I still wish I hadn't bought this knife. Unfortunately, Spyderco has me hooked and I like the look of the Titanium version so much that I'll buy it when it comes out and hope for the best. You mentioned the clip snagging on a seatbelt. Mine did exactly that and I had to bend it back. I really wish I had watched this vid before buying one. I would have just bought a Delica instead.
+Matthew Scheuerman My Meadowlark is slightly favoring the presentation side. But honestly, I've got a $200 Benchmade on my desk which has worse centering, and given all the other aspects of the trainwreck, I didn't feel it was worth mentioning.
"This is a cheap thing done well, and this is an expensive thing, done cheaply." that's a huge difference. If a knife is designed to hit a certain price point, cutting back from that means taking away quality that was there. A knife intended to be manufactured for 20 dollars will be better than a 60 dollar knife, that removes everything that made it good to hit the 20 dollar mark. The Tenacious line, along with budget Kershaws, show real value. A Kershaw Shuffle cost me $15, and still came shaving sharp from the box. It didn't need to try and be a more expensive knife. It was a knife well worth what I paid for it. If they tried making a $15 version of a more expensive model, would that have been worth it? I doubt it.
I think what makes Byrd feel so dirty is that it doesn't just feel like they're making a budget brand, it feels like they're cloning their own knives and going out of their way to make them so much worse that you end up eventually just buying a Spyderco. I get that this is a $20 knife, but compared to what they've done on the Delica, there are a lot of things here that really just feel like "Hah, screw you. This is what you get for going cheap." Like, you don't pick up a Civivi and think "God, this feels like a TERRIBLE version of a WE knife." But you definitely pick up most Byrds and think "Gross, this is atrocious."
I think you need to re-review the Byrd line you in my opinion you were a little harsh on it being its a budget line and I think you get what you pay for here and actually a little more
He's an absolute snob, the knife is 90% of a delica, the ultimate EDC knife he claims, made by the same company but with a SLIGHTLY less great fit and finish, and worse steel but is a 4th the price, and he literally says "This is insulting to me." What a fucking jackass, to be completely honest. Then says he thinks the Byrd will only last a few months. Wow, holy shit somebody pissed in his cereal that day.
@D C you really need that $200 high end knife to cut open that packing tape huh? Would you even use your high end knives or are they just drawer queens that represent your own personal rampant consumerism.
he never said it's bad. He just compared the original to the slightly altered, lower-quality one. Both are made by Spyderco in Asia. I agree, the Byrd is decent for $20. Better than many other folders at this price from other manufacturers.
I know I'm years late but my issue is that it being only $20 isn't a valid excuse for its poor qc and other issues. You can get a knife that's beautiful with a solid steel for that price. So it has nothing to do with it being only $20 but more about Spyderco not caring and thinking they'll sell anyways bc they are owned by Spyderco thus no need to try so hard. That I don't like.
I personally think 8cr13mov is a good steel, for the price. I've used my Tenacious for wood cutting tasks and it's done just fine, and still is sharp enough to shave with (if you can avoid the catching, god the catching- but I've had it for a few months and use it daily). But, for the price of the Meadowlark, you're better off saving for the Tenacious or other low-price Spyderco- or you're better off saving up even more than $40 and getting a Delica.
If Nick Shabazz is such a knife snob, why is his standard benchmark the $60 Delica 4? Seriously, I’ve got some excellent knives and I also have some cheapos. There is ABSOLUTELY a place for cheap knives like Byrds, and much like with cars, there is a hard line of diminishing returns after about $100 spent on a carry knife. What Nick is very clearly saying is that you will get years of use out of a Delica 4 at its market price of $60, and anything this much cheaper (like the Meadowlark) has by definition made sacrifices in terms of durability. You could carry a razor blade with a piece of duct tape around one end for under a buck, but you’re giving something up, aren’t you?
When you have held good stuff this you noticed the bad on cheaper stuff I been carrying a 200 dollar kizer for a month now and now I won't even touch my tenacious or leek they aren't bad. I do understand nick now tho, and I have t even tried a midtech or a custom yet
Here in Yorkshire, Englandland. We like a bargain, cos weve got bairns to feed an all that. GANZO F759M for under 8 quid to the door!. Leather strop and compound. I like em so much, I bought the company!.
This is exacltly the point: if all, what you consider umpleasent for you, things on Meadowlark will disapper - you will get Delica. So take Delica and enjoy it. Leave Byrd knives and people who enjoy them alone. It is not possible to have gold for the price of dumb iron. Everything has own price.
Hi Nick. Please do a review of the Byrd Raven 2. It's got great steel, G10 and good ergo's imho. Other than the teflon bushings I think it's a real gem. I prefer it to the Tenacious for sure. Para2 killer even?
This guy is not a knife snob lol he says repeatedly the delica 4 is one of his favorite pocket knives, the delica 4 is very much geard twards the middle class working man. Not top of the line but gets the job done. The medowlark is a budget knife.
the handle shape of the original buck knives was more edgy, not rounded off. buck designed them that way for better grip. as an example look at the pakistani knock offs from the 70s. the byrd knives scales have more of an edge achieving the same result. buck rounded off the edges by request from knife buyers. i love my byrd knives. i own both the delica and the meadowlark. if i handle them both with my eyes closed i can not tell the difference in feel. in 2024 the delica is around $95. the byrds around $35. im going to keep buying byrds for my collection. sorry nick.
Wow. That's comedy. Tell us how you really feel! Glad I like the Delica... Seriously though, I think you've done well telling the public that it's best to save for the real thing and not let this be your entry into the Spyderco world. I also loved the visual of Sal busting into the Delica knockoff factory. Priceless.
Makes me wonder if you got a bad one... Aside from the materials you didn't like, the fit and finish seem sub par even for the price point. Somebody I know has a Cara Cara 2 (another of the byrd line, more of a knockoff endura) and aside from the materials, the quality is better than what you seemed to get. Thanks for the vid
The delica is over priced. Its a 100$ (where I live) . No one can tell me to buy the delica, its also stupidly overrated for the price, for that I coud buy a kizer knife whit s35vn. Also why does it sound like you expect a super steel on a 20$ knife? To your avaredge person who needs a knife, they dont need a super steel, also spydercos budget line cant even propely called a budget line, the tenatioucs is 60$. With a byrd you get what you pay for. Ok have a nice day!
the non-cutting portion of the blade on the Delica 4 doesn't make sense and thats an ugly thing.I like the Meadowlark in g-10 better then the Delica 4 and it's half the price. Plus, i dont need my knife to stay sharp forever,just for the day..And the 8cr13mov takes 2 min to get back razor sharp.
You nitpicked wayyy harder then I’d have thought for a knife this size and price. Also, that cheap pocket clip you say will break easy is a Spyderco left unpainted and stamped. The metal makeup and everything else is exact same. You keep calling the FRN cheap plastic.. and while that’s technically correct, say FRN.. that’s what it is. And to me it feels better and grippier then my Enduras (but I think that’s more to do with how thin Byrd FRN handles are) Anyways.. I have had 4 Cara Caras and end up giving them away to people when they show interest in them, I like the idea of my people having a nice blade anyhow. Last one I had was in my pocket daily for about a year. It cut drywall, pried steel studs in track, cut in a dirty ass sink garbage disposal.. I was absolutely brutal on my last one and still was sharp as shit and looked great. When my friend was moving her and her sister kept going “hey can I use that knife you carry?” So at the end of the day when she folded it and handed back I said to just keep it. These make great gifts for anyone. The meadowlark and robin are fantastic for people who work in shipping/freight. The 8cr is tough but pliable and it’s full grind tapers to so thin that even filled they perform great. My last one got resharpened one time.. that’s it. And I used it daily.
Bought one of those a few years ago. Lets just say i have had 5 dollar knives that was better than that pos. Maybe i got a lemon but bladeplay all over the place.
For everyday tasks and not wanting to mess up expensive knifes. The delica is perfect. It's good enough to do everything you need while not messing up the blade of a 300$ knife (I feel similar for the rat 1-2 if IAM in wet conditions like fishing, camping back up, hunting)
Nick Shabazz soy de españa,m gusta ver tus videos,pero no m entero de nada. Soy un apasionado de las navajas, y de las spyderco en general. Mi pregunta es,q estoy esperando una byrd como la del video (byrd meadowlark) y quiero saber si ay mucha diferencia estre bryr y spyderco, en calidad y ajustes Y lo q tu llamas plastico (es lo unico q entiendo ) sera frn al igual q las spyderco Gracias y un saludo
Debe comprar el Spyderco. El calidad de una Delica o Alcyone es mucho mejor, y los materiales son mejores. El Byrd Meadowlark en Ti es un poco mejor q esto, pero... debe comprar el Spyderco. Nick
Nick Shabazz T agradecco tu respuesta,muchas gracias Spyderco tengo 3 modelos Ambitious...70 euros Persistence...78 euros Polestar....105 euros Y estoy encantado con ellas,el problema q hay aqui en españa es el precio.....una delica4 ronda los 130 o 150 euros..... M encanta la chaparral (200 euros ) pero son precios desorbitados La bryr (unos 45 euros ) la tengo encargada en mi cuchilleria de confianza, la a pedido bajo encargo y no m puedo hechar atras,asi q la usare para diario. Lo dicho,muy agradecido por haberme respondido Un saludo desde España
+cuddlesdapeaceman357 It's an objectively better knife than the Z-Hunter from the Inexpensive vs Cheap video, but by a small enough margin I had to think about it. If not the winner, damned close!
European problem however: The Delica 4 costs 3 to 4x as much as the Byrd. =(
more like 5x :D
@@danielfulop I'd get a Ganzo F759 which has better quality than the Meadowlark, but is more inexpensive.
Same in the us... Also have the ganzo 759 and it replaced my delica (gen 1 clip it, dang near vintage in aus 8 steel).
@@chefboiarby304 The Ganzo F759 is great , I bought 3 of them. I give them as gifts.
Get a homies in the states to just mail one to you. They sell for $80-100 here in expensive ass California all day.
If the Delica had the choil of the Meadowlark it would be perfect.
yeah,the non cutting portion of the blade on the Delica doesn't make sense....Thats an ugly thing nick has never talked about.The truth is that a Delica is a great knife to carry but not so much to use.
@@jackrabbit4907 The solution to that would be the Ganzo F759 which is a nicer version of the Meadowlark with a better blade steel (440c). It's also more inexpensive at $13.
@@chefboiarby304 Wish they'd try the Chaparral too...
Yep, no excuse for the Delica to not have a choil after 30+ years. Pure laziness.
The F759M is surprisingly great for $15.
I bought the G10 version of this knife, and it is awesome! with the exception of the blade steel, it is every bit as good as my Delica, and I won't cry as many tears if I lose the Byrd Meadowlark 2. I liked this knfe so much, I went out and bought the G10 Cara Cara 2 instead of the G10 Endura.
A month??? I have been been carrying my " cheap knockoff" Meadowlark for three years, and the clip has not folded over on itself, my seatbelt hasn't ripped it from my jeans pocket, the scales haven't broken or fallen off, and the blade hasn't broken. It is true that it doesn't hold an edge for very long, but that hasn't been a problem. I hit it with a ceramic rod once a week and it's good to go -- and that's with daily use. At today's prices for the Spiderco Delica on Amazon, I can buy four of these $20 Byrd knives. I call that a good value!!!
I put that knife through everything and it held up just fine
Nick, I never realized how REFLECTIVE the Delica's hardware was until I saw it up close at 4:05 😉
I dont know about 2016 but now in 2020 you can buy a Byrd robin 2, Byrd cara cara 2 & a Byrd meadowlark 2 for the price (1$ more) of a Spyderco Delica! That's a no brainer....time to order that Meadowlark 2
The Delica is absurdly overpriced for what is basically a 30 year old design with no major modern updates. If I could find one for $50 or less, I'd try it. But for the $80-90 they're going for now, there are a LOT of other options that I'd rather have.
I usually agree with your takes Nick, I'm a giant knife guy too and a big fan...But your take on this one is way off imo. Find me a better quality $20 pocket knife. The fit and finish of the Byrd knives are remarkable for what you pay. As for 8cr, I'd much rather a steel that needs sharpened more frequently but sharpens easily than say S35VN, that is an absolute pain to put an edge back on. I'm a Sebenza owner so I understand where you're coming from, but dude...these things are awesome value!
Ka-bar dozier...
I have one of these knives and I honestly love it. It doesn't feel as nice as my Delica but it serves a very specific purpose for me. As I was leaving work the other evening another co-worker had the late shift and forgot her knife and and was struggling with a bunch of packages so I handed her this pocket knife and went home and didn't worry about weather or not it would get damaged or lost because it only cost $20 bucks. I did get it back the next morning in perfect working order, but I can say I probably wouldn't have given up my Delica because it's a much more expensive knife. Personally I think it it's a great knife from a reputable company and I would rather spend $20 bucks on a name brand knife that I trust over some no name knife I've never heard of. Not everyone needs, will or can spend 60 or 70 bucks for a pocket knife but everyone should have an affordable reliable pocket knife. Just my opinion and that is only worth what you paid for it which is $0.00 and if I'm honest I think the Delica is a great knife but in my opinion over priced by about $20.00 and feels cheap to me when I compare it to my Cold Steel for the same money...
The non-chamfered grips on the Meadowlark 2 drive me crazy. How hard would putting a slight curve on the edge of the FRN have been? It seems all the FRN handled byrds are like that. But the stainless steel and titanium ones are chamfered
I feel guilty.. but I prefer my Cara Cara to my $150 special edition Endura 4. I think a lot of it has to do with how similar they are but it costs 1/4 the price. So I can use it freely however I want, which I will not do with my expensive knives.
This guy was wayyyy to hard on them. If all I saw was this review I’d never have bought one. So, guys keep in mind this dude is a professional that deals with super nice blades.. so him seeing a knife that an everyday guy can use they are “garbage”
He’s 100% wrong on the quality and feel but whatever.. to each their own. He’s kinda an arrogant prick if I’m being honest, lol.
I enjoy the Byrd. It really is worth the 20$, and you don’t lose sleep if you leave it on a rock! The steel is not great but way better than expected.
*$20. The dollar sign always goes in front of the number 🥰
I disagree on a few points, or maybe you got a bad one. The plastic doesn't feel particularly cheap to me, the clip feels solid, and the hole on mine isn't sharp.
As a disclaimer, mine's actually a hawkbill, but it should be a blade shape variant of the same knife. The handle looks the same.
My main gripe is actually how the textured handle collects grime. I don't particularly like 8cr13mov but for $20 I can't complain.
True. I've had mine for several years now, beat up - but it's still solid as if it were new.
For $10-$15 you can get a Ganzo F759 with 440c steel and other slight improvements.
My meadowlark came sharp enough to cut hair but he is right about the clip
The Delica is not a $60 knife in my book. Albeit my book, but my book also notes that a Cold Steel Code 4 S-35VN steel and G10 scales is about the same price as a Delica.
I've had a cara cara 2 for 2 years. It's not pretty, but it works. It certainly lasted longer than 2 months. That being said, it has been supplanted by a Raven 2 and a rat 1.
I have 3 Byrd knives including 2 Meadowlark v2 (plain + combo edge) and they came razor sharp.
Also got Delicas in my collection and to be honest I don't find much difference between the knives except the price. The Delica is 3-4 times more expensive than the Byrd where I live (Norway)........Really impressed with my Byrds given the "low" price but as a collector I don't compromise. You need all.
I like the Byrd knives. I just got a Byrd Harrier 2, and it seems pretty good. I did have to use the file on certain spots, though, to knock down sharp edges.
btw, do you have a list of knives which are cheap but good quality? Would be interesting to see a good value knives video from you
My Byrd Meadowlark Ti sprint run is a fantastic piece; extremely well made, thin, good-looking. 8Cr is too bad but really it's fine for office carry, which is where I use it.
I bought a Bird at a time when I thought it was a Spyderco and wouldn't pay a lot for a knife. The Delica was over twice as much. The Bird was inexpensive and serviceable. The thumb hole had sharp edges but, what can you expect for the price. I won't be buying another since I finally bought a CRK Sabenza which I thought I would never do. My taste has changed and I am enjoying the fit, finish and quality of my higher priced knives. I still buy value priced knives. I really like my RAT II. It's just a matter of where your taste, budget and priorities are. Just make sure you always have a knife with you at all times. I feel naked without one.
I had a Byrd Cara Cara 2 G10 and it was awesome knife.Got one or two rust spots but that did not bothered me.
I've had the G10 version for about 10 years. Mine came with a combo edge. The clean portion of the blade is a chisel grind.
I bought the Byrd meadowlark it's a great knife for the money and I had no problem with the edge and the plastic is nice it's a 20 dollar knife and u must've got a bad clip mine was solid and my screws were recesed and mine came razor
Actually there was an edge retention test between 8Cr13mov and S30V spyderco knives on youtube, and the result was almost identical. So I'm not sure if based on experience we could conclude that the 8Cr13mov is barely acceptable... anyone who tested this? Maybe compared to VG-10?
Nick, Outstanding video once again. I purchased the Meadowlark 2 because I wanted a Delica with a finger choil. As you know, this was a big mistake, and now after owning several Delica-like knives, I realize that I didn't even need the choil. You didn't talk about the blade centering (which is always to the left on every-one's Meadowlark...) and blade lockup.
I took mine apart to make it smoother, and found a lot of problems with the plastic inside the scale. I sanded these areas down and the knife opens smoother but I still wish I hadn't bought this knife. Unfortunately, Spyderco has me hooked and I like the look of the Titanium version so much that I'll buy it when it comes out and hope for the best.
You mentioned the clip snagging on a seatbelt. Mine did exactly that and I had to bend it back.
I really wish I had watched this vid before buying one. I would have just bought a Delica instead.
+Matthew Scheuerman My Meadowlark is slightly favoring the presentation side. But honestly, I've got a $200 Benchmade on my desk which has worse centering, and given all the other aspects of the trainwreck, I didn't feel it was worth mentioning.
Is this the MeadowLark 1 or 2?
I bought a Byrd Tern to use for travel in Europe. After handling it for 2 mins I packaged it up and returned it.
"This is a cheap thing done well, and this is an expensive thing, done cheaply." that's a huge difference. If a knife is designed to hit a certain price point, cutting back from that means taking away quality that was there. A knife intended to be manufactured for 20 dollars will be better than a 60 dollar knife, that removes everything that made it good to hit the 20 dollar mark. The Tenacious line, along with budget Kershaws, show real value. A Kershaw Shuffle cost me $15, and still came shaving sharp from the box. It didn't need to try and be a more expensive knife. It was a knife well worth what I paid for it. If they tried making a $15 version of a more expensive model, would that have been worth it? I doubt it.
I agree I used mine as a beater and light use caused it to chip out badly got them out with sharpening but the edge hasent been decently sharp since
I think what makes Byrd feel so dirty is that it doesn't just feel like they're making a budget brand, it feels like they're cloning their own knives and going out of their way to make them so much worse that you end up eventually just buying a Spyderco.
I get that this is a $20 knife, but compared to what they've done on the Delica, there are a lot of things here that really just feel like "Hah, screw you. This is what you get for going cheap."
Like, you don't pick up a Civivi and think "God, this feels like a TERRIBLE version of a WE knife."
But you definitely pick up most Byrds and think "Gross, this is atrocious."
I think you need to re-review the Byrd line you in my opinion you were a little harsh on it being its a budget line and I think you get what you pay for here and actually a little more
He's an absolute snob, the knife is 90% of a delica, the ultimate EDC knife he claims, made by the same company but with a SLIGHTLY less great fit and finish, and worse steel but is a 4th the price, and he literally says "This is insulting to me." What a fucking jackass, to be completely honest. Then says he thinks the Byrd will only last a few months. Wow, holy shit somebody pissed in his cereal that day.
dont listen to him byrd knives are a hell of a good deal if you dont want to spend too much
Fizucks you don't truly know the bad till you know the good my friend
Fizucks you are totally right man
@D C you really need that $200 high end knife to cut open that packing tape huh? Would you even use your high end knives or are they just drawer queens that represent your own personal rampant consumerism.
@@nickshumar4553 Sure, but I have a Delica and a g10 Meadowlark. Delica gets no pocket time because of the Byrd
Seriously who would not just spend 10-15 more and just get something from the tenacious line?
I will always hold these knives near and dear to me. The Byrd line was my stepping stone into much nicer spyderco knives.
Great knife. Love mine. Really nice fit and finish. Does the job I need it to at 1/3 the price.
I typically agree with your reviews but I have to disagree on this one. I bought one of these several years ago. It’s a decent knife for the price.
he never said it's bad. He just compared the original to the slightly altered, lower-quality one. Both are made by Spyderco in Asia. I agree, the Byrd is decent for $20. Better than many other folders at this price from other manufacturers.
What are your thoughts on the G10 version of this?
I personally prefer the Delica over the Meadowlark 2, though.
+Daniel Wood Never tried it. but putting a new set of scales on a cheaply made knife doesn't seem like it would fix enough of the problem.
I know I'm years late but my issue is that it being only $20 isn't a valid excuse for its poor qc and other issues. You can get a knife that's beautiful with a solid steel for that price. So it has nothing to do with it being only $20 but more about Spyderco not caring and thinking they'll sell anyways bc they are owned by Spyderco thus no need to try so hard. That I don't like.
Try the Byrd Raven 2! From the sound of it, it fixes all the complaints you had with this knife.
I personally think 8cr13mov is a good steel, for the price. I've used my Tenacious for wood cutting tasks and it's done just fine, and still is sharp enough to shave with (if you can avoid the catching, god the catching- but I've had it for a few months and use it daily).
But, for the price of the Meadowlark, you're better off saving for the Tenacious or other low-price Spyderco- or you're better off saving up even more than $40 and getting a Delica.
+DavidMN "For the price" is the key there. If it's 8Cr, you'd better be getting something excellent for under $45.
If Nick Shabazz is such a knife snob, why is his standard benchmark the $60 Delica 4?
Seriously, I’ve got some excellent knives and I also have some cheapos. There is ABSOLUTELY a place for cheap knives like Byrds, and much like with cars, there is a hard line of diminishing returns after about $100 spent on a carry knife. What Nick is very clearly saying is that you will get years of use out of a Delica 4 at its market price of $60, and anything this much cheaper (like the Meadowlark) has by definition made sacrifices in terms of durability. You could carry a razor blade with a piece of duct tape around one end for under a buck, but you’re giving something up, aren’t you?
When you have held good stuff this you noticed the bad on cheaper stuff I been carrying a 200 dollar kizer for a month now and now I won't even touch my tenacious or leek they aren't bad. I do understand nick now tho, and I have t even tried a midtech or a custom yet
A freakin pebble XD
I'm so happy I'm rewatching nicks older videos.
Here in Yorkshire, Englandland. We like a bargain, cos weve got bairns to feed an all that. GANZO F759M for under 8 quid to the door!. Leather strop and compound. I like em so much, I bought the company!.
I wonder if a Chinese clone of the Delica compared to the Byrd which one would be better.
This is exacltly the point: if all, what you consider umpleasent for you, things on Meadowlark will disapper - you will get Delica. So take Delica and enjoy it. Leave Byrd knives and people who enjoy them alone. It is not possible to have gold for the price of dumb iron. Everything has own price.
It's a shame, I really want a delica with a finger choil...
just legit better imo.
Where do you buy your knifes because the price quote is half of the price quote form the places I'm shopping.
In the US.
Nick Shabazz ok so how about the store your shopping at
Hi Nick. Please do a review of the Byrd Raven 2. It's got great steel, G10 and good ergo's imho. Other than the teflon bushings I think it's a real gem. I prefer it to the Tenacious for sure. Para2 killer even?
This guy is not a knife snob lol he says repeatedly the delica 4 is one of his favorite pocket knives, the delica 4 is very much geard twards the middle class working man. Not top of the line but gets the job done. The medowlark is a budget knife.
Looks great for a boys first knife that wants one that looks cool
DUDE this is my first never ever! Still have it from 05’
HAHAHA, Nick, you're kidding right? This is the first of your videos I couldn't finish. I can't go below the Tenacious.
+FOOLS REPLY Nor should you. Oy, this one was ugly.
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Sorry just wanted to see your name
Does the Nick still do thrifty Thursdays?
the handle shape of the original buck knives was more edgy, not rounded off. buck designed them that way for better grip. as an example look at the pakistani knock offs from the 70s. the byrd knives scales have more of an edge achieving the same result. buck rounded off the edges by request from knife buyers. i love my byrd knives. i own both the delica and the meadowlark. if i handle them both with my eyes closed i can not tell the difference in feel. in 2024 the delica is around $95. the byrds around $35. im going to keep buying byrds for my collection. sorry nick.
Wow. That's comedy. Tell us how you really feel! Glad I like the Delica... Seriously though, I think you've done well telling the public that it's best to save for the real thing and not let this be your entry into the Spyderco world. I also loved the visual of Sal busting into the Delica knockoff factory. Priceless.
Makes me wonder if you got a bad one... Aside from the materials you didn't like, the fit and finish seem sub par even for the price point. Somebody I know has a Cara Cara 2 (another of the byrd line, more of a knockoff endura) and aside from the materials, the quality is better than what you seemed to get. Thanks for the vid
+Daniel Kompolt Is somebody knocking off knockoff Spydercos?!
The delica is over priced. Its a 100$ (where I live) . No one can tell me to buy the delica, its also stupidly overrated for the price, for that I coud buy a kizer knife whit s35vn. Also why does it sound like you expect a super steel on a 20$ knife? To your avaredge person who needs a knife, they dont need a super steel, also spydercos budget line cant even propely called a budget line, the tenatioucs is 60$. With a byrd you get what you pay for. Ok have a nice day!
Delica here in my country is almost 100$ and the byrd is just over 30 so.....
the non-cutting portion of the blade on the Delica 4 doesn't make sense and thats an ugly thing.I like the Meadowlark in g-10 better then the Delica 4 and it's half the price. Plus, i dont need my knife to stay sharp forever,just for the day..And the 8cr13mov takes 2 min to get back razor sharp.
"just don't"
You nitpicked wayyy harder then I’d have thought for a knife this size and price. Also, that cheap pocket clip you say will break easy is a Spyderco left unpainted and stamped. The metal makeup and everything else is exact same.
You keep calling the FRN cheap plastic.. and while that’s technically correct, say FRN.. that’s what it is. And to me it feels better and grippier then my Enduras (but I think that’s more to do with how thin Byrd FRN handles are)
Anyways.. I have had 4 Cara Caras and end up giving them away to people when they show interest in them, I like the idea of my people having a nice blade anyhow. Last one I had was in my pocket daily for about a year. It cut drywall, pried steel studs in track, cut in a dirty ass sink garbage disposal.. I was absolutely brutal on my last one and still was sharp as shit and looked great. When my friend was moving her and her sister kept going “hey can I use that knife you carry?” So at the end of the day when she folded it and handed back I said to just keep it.
These make great gifts for anyone. The meadowlark and robin are fantastic for people who work in shipping/freight. The 8cr is tough but pliable and it’s full grind tapers to so thin that even filled they perform great. My last one got resharpened one time.. that’s it. And I used it daily.
So you are trying to tell me that that Byrd is not the word
Easy to keep razor sharp best 20 dollar knife and if you lose no biggy
I like the way you talk, very cartoon like.
He must be from “Nooo Yoikk”
Just got a couple of the Ganzo version of the Meadowlark. 8 bux. Way more solid than the Meadowlark i had before
Bought one of those a few years ago. Lets just say i have had 5 dollar knives that was better than that pos. Maybe i got a lemon but bladeplay all over the place.
You got a bad one, mine's the hawkbill but very much the same family, and it's solid.
you definietly got a bad one
$100 in Australia.
looking to buy Meadowlark? I recommend this: ruclips.net/video/Xku6oT0W3Dg/видео.html
Byrd raven 2 review please!!!!!
You don't trust this the last a month? This from a man who keeps the Z-hunter as part of his collection?
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What a snob! Lol literally everything is better on the meadowlark except the blade steel. Def not worth 3x the price.
Ok
Negative review. I love my Byrd
It ain’t $20.00 anymore….
I love my Byrd knifes. The G10 versions are better.
I question your judgment when you say a $60 knife is the best edc knife out there
For everyday tasks and not wanting to mess up expensive knifes. The delica is perfect. It's good enough to do everything you need while not messing up the blade of a 300$ knife (I feel similar for the rat 1-2 if IAM in wet conditions like fishing, camping back up, hunting)
I have a Ganzo F759 that's better than this, but half the price.
Do not buy this guys bull crap
Ablas español?
Si!
Nick Shabazz soy de españa,m gusta ver tus videos,pero no m entero de nada.
Soy un apasionado de las navajas, y de las spyderco en general. Mi pregunta es,q estoy esperando una byrd como la del video (byrd meadowlark) y quiero saber si ay mucha diferencia estre bryr y spyderco, en calidad y ajustes
Y lo q tu llamas plastico (es lo unico q entiendo ) sera frn al igual q las spyderco
Gracias y un saludo
Debe comprar el Spyderco. El calidad de una Delica o Alcyone es mucho mejor, y los materiales son mejores. El Byrd Meadowlark en Ti es un poco mejor q esto, pero... debe comprar el Spyderco. Nick
Nick Shabazz T agradecco tu respuesta,muchas gracias
Spyderco tengo 3 modelos
Ambitious...70 euros
Persistence...78 euros
Polestar....105 euros
Y estoy encantado con ellas,el problema q hay aqui en españa es el precio.....una delica4 ronda los 130 o 150 euros.....
M encanta la chaparral (200 euros ) pero son precios desorbitados
La bryr (unos 45 euros ) la tengo encargada en mi cuchilleria de confianza, la a pedido bajo encargo y no m puedo hechar atras,asi q la usare para diario.
Lo dicho,muy agradecido por haberme respondido
Un saludo desde España
Nick Shabazz por cierto,podrias hacer videos en castellano,seria muy bueno para quien no entendemos de ingles na de na....
Saludos
Steaming pile award?
+cuddlesdapeaceman357 It's an objectively better knife than the Z-Hunter from the Inexpensive vs Cheap video, but by a small enough margin I had to think about it. If not the winner, damned close!