Lemme share a great piece of advice Seth Skorkowski gave about a mystery game crime scene: give your players 2-3 layers of clues. The first layer is literally the ones they can see with their own 2 eyes without a skill check. If you only go 2 layers, the second is a skill check clue. If you go for 3, give them an "easy" roll and a "hard roll." This way, they always get clues, but there can be more they can find
It is weird how bad people are at mystery TTRPGs. Even if you go from a point of origin to the scene of a crime and on the way you are blinded by something and arrive at a room with nothing in it that is a _massive_ amount of evidence. That means someone knows who you are, that you are going to the scene, and that this is in fact the scene and it is being watched over by professionals. You did not observe nothing, observing nothing is not even valid as a concept. If you observe an empty room you observe an empty room, rooms are in fact things, empty is a state. Totally empty rooms are weird.
Love his videos and he gives great advice! What I like about that method is that it doesn't make your characters seem incompetent for not seeing really obvious things that you as the player could notice, while allowing the characters to potentially discover things that you as the player might not have noticed.
@@n0etic_f0x Especially if an investigation check turns up no hair or fingerprints. The people who should be there leave those around all the time incidentally, you should see at least that jumble. I believe that would fall under "tampering with a crime scene."
In addition, clues don't always have to be at the same place or to be obtainable in a single manner. Also from a DM youtube channel where the host said a DM has to be flexible behind the curtain.
Paladin was an attention-junkie plain and simple. I don't feel qualified to say if she was doing this in a malicious sociopathic way or if she was just immature and bought into her own lies, but certainly after all the attention. I suspect the culprit in the mystery would be some new character introduced in the final scene because the DM would want to protect the big reveal moment at all costs.
I would absolutely try to convince everyone to act as Scooby Doo characters and queue up some Hanna Barbera cartoon sounds on my phone once I realized what was going on with Cthulhupants
How the hell do you ALWAYS upload when I need it the most? Had a minor medical complication and I'm in a lot of pain... and now I'm laughing my ass off at Cthulhupants.
Wow... uh. Why would you do coke while playing a cooperative game? I have to say I have had some [RUclips-friendly herbal tea] of [Mulberry-Darkroot Marjoram-Alderwood] and... that was a fun game. If you do not know that [tea] makes everyone into Astarion and you are convinced he is flirting with you.
@@CrowePerch no you can’t, he is already perfect. Oh and creepy as it is most people are far more useful at a crime scene than you think. Even if you are completely drunk you will gather data if you investigate, it simply not possible that you will not do so. If you are going to fail investigating tell the player _wrong_ information not _no_ information. _You see a blood stain but no body, evidence of vampires_ would be a failed investigation as long as what killed them is _not_ a vampire. The vampire would be the inverse… bodies but no blood.
1) the ONLY person at a D&D table that it might be better to have on coke is the DM 2) Drinks, weed, and mushrooms make a great session for everyone else
My first game, the dm/host always had an insane amount of weed specifically for games. I'm not gonna say it made the games better, but it sure made the stupid shit funnier lmao
As someone who smokes and 'gets into character' for these kinda things... All I can say is this, A multidimensional slip'n'slide was involved and a few genocidal wars were started... and someone ended up with a foot baby....
the call of cthulhu one couldve made for a great wider story about like, being stuck in a weird timeloop. wouldve even been fitting for the mythos. but noooo
Haunted House! How do I know its haunted? That guy's face imploded, Nice Guy's face turned completely inside out, And Fat Guy's ass exploded all over the place exercist style
I'm a Warhammer fan, but the Warhammer Fantasy story from this cracked me up! I yet again found myself laughing at work thanks to this. x) The ending was beyond perfect.
Okay...the guy who claimed that Warhammer Fantasy is the best system and that World of Darkness is "too simple"....I think I get what he was on about. I think "being simple" equated to him with "being able to blend in". The whole point of Vampire: The Masquerade is, that you're not supposed to show what you are and use your vampiric powers in a way, that doesn't breach the Masquerade. Warhammer - both Fantasy and 40k - on the other hand is an over the top-depiction of Fantasy/Sci Fi. Vampires in that setting are so far down and obvious to recognize as Vampires, that, to someone who prefers the over-the-top nature of Warhammer, yes - Vampires, that try not to be recognized as Vampires, are boring. (similar to all the other supernatural beings in WoD trying their best not to be obvious) Basically, comparing anything more grounded to Warhammer is dumb. I love WoD and I love Warhammer, but there's a reason I stuck to World of Darkness - I can't do over the top. I gave up running Warhammer Fantasy, bc I tend to run grounded horror anyway; and while there are opportunities to do grounded horror in Warhammer, if your players are prepared for the goofy antics of the regular Warhammer Fantasy-World, it won't work. For example, one of my (now ex)-players saw the followers of Slaneesh (the god of hedonism and debauchery) as "cool guys that love sex, drugs and rock n roll." I see the followers and daemons of Slaneesh as basically Cenobites from Hellraiser; beings that have experienced every drug, music, party and emotion to the point they don't feel anything, because they became numb to everything.
I'll be real. While I prefer fully sober play for my tabletop gaming, I wouldn't be comfortable with people doing coke for a game. My Hackmaster group may or may not invite Mary Jane or New Glarus over for the game, but everyone is on edge and most of the group is aggroed enough without coke. Besides, I prefer Zevia cola or Pepsi over Coke
talking about the politics of the world of darkness, in the main setting of my family's chronicles there's a town with a historical alliance with vampires, werewolves, mages and fae (I think. there's like 5 in the general area) that dates back to the dark ages. so yeah that's a rather complicated political scope
I've always heard such ideas derogatorily called "superfriends" games but like... Man, it would be rad as fuck to just hang out with a bunch of magic critters and go on cool adventures, right? I've kinda dropped out of the space of WhiteWolf games mostly because of attitudes towards fun ideas like that, though I'm certain there are many fun and friendly groups out there.
Iirc there’s a book called Contagion Chronicle from the Onyx Path side of World of Darkness that did a big crossover where you could use any of the books between Hunter, Vampire, Werewolf, Geist, etc. Could be fun to check out.
I mean I can understand why a college freshman would be worried about getting in trouble for having cocaine at their club meetings but like, I'm with you it's totally uncool to 1) not offer the GM a hit and 2) not double check if it's cool to bring in to the game... Like I honestly love drugs, don't do much other than weed in my old age (mid-30s), but it's basic drug etiquette to double check with a host what poisons they're cool with having around. Like I would never do coke or drink whiskey around a small child and I would never even assume on weed and booze being ok at the gaming table
I hate showing up for some TTRGP fun and it turns into me sitting there bored. Just observing isn't fun unless I'm actively trying to learn the system. AND that Coke game, that was idiotic. I don't blame the OP immediately ending the club to protect himself/herself
@@CrowePerch you should; they’re nothing deep, but but are fun reads, although how many entries in the series there are kinda spoils the premise when you stop to think about it (context, one of the MCs, Gotrek, is a Slayer, which is a dwarf that’s trying to get themself killed by the mightiest enemy they can find to atone for their past crimes/sins. The fact that there are so many books in the series should clue you in to how successful he is in that quest).
I'll bet you it was the out of place bubbly AI appliances and that the GM was a fan of a certain weird-ass Japanese dating game. .... You probably don't want to know.
My old Barbarian player gave me a TCH gummy at work. Something like 2'000mg (He told me after, and at my job everyone passed around snacks all the time so this was not out of place.) Didn't tell me it was that type of gummy when it was handed to me, but I tasted it. Tride to tough it out not knowing how strong it was to save his job. After lunch I got sick, dizzy, saw in pictures. It was strange, but, I threw up. Best job I ever had fired us both. Now I'm skeptical even letting in weed smokers at my table at all, in the fear they may bring some funky food or temp other players with such distractions. Yes he did bring this stuff to sessions as well. I was dum to take any food sorce from him, but not all of us are druggys who think a gummy is automatically a TCH drug, and yes weed is a drug, it is an addiction, and no you should never be high at the table. Weed is not the acception.
IMHO it is because these are horror games. And much like how there are so many bad horror movies, for the same reason you get DMs who run bad horror games. It’s a shame because these are very fun games with the right game master and the right players.
OP is definitely just projecting weird insecurities. Everybodies chilling having fun. OP huge stickler goes to take a piss. Everyone tried to do some blow and have a good time. OP comes back and starts acting like everyones mom. Would never play with this dude again.
@@archiehughes6203 Not everyone wants to play with people on drugs, especially if it's illegal or on school premises. Could have been held liable for hosting or attending a coke party.
@ArcCaravan How far are you willing to go? You going to piss test and breathalyzer everyone who comes over? Only the people who wanted to do it, did it. You go a ton of places a day, and I guarantee encounter people who use coke in your daily life. They got to test up to talk to you? "Not everyone wants to play with people on drugs" That's a very general thing to say. What about anti-depressants or focus medications? My point is everyone was having a fun, safe time and he ruined it by projecting. Which is exactly your admission.
@@archiehughes6203 There's a difference between legal medicine and illegal narcotics, these weren't people just walking in the streets, and nobody's obligated to hang out with someone no matter what. OP didn't even judge them, just left after finding out everyone did drugs that could get them in trouble with the university or police. How is choosing to not hang with them the same as demanding drug tests from everyone?
“Let’s do a line then sit down for 6 hours”
Said no one ever
I have..... but it wasnt coke... does that count?
Cthulhupants may not have been a horror movie buff, but it sounds like he was intimately acquainted with "Groundhog Day".
Lemme share a great piece of advice Seth Skorkowski gave about a mystery game crime scene: give your players 2-3 layers of clues. The first layer is literally the ones they can see with their own 2 eyes without a skill check. If you only go 2 layers, the second is a skill check clue. If you go for 3, give them an "easy" roll and a "hard roll."
This way, they always get clues, but there can be more they can find
I do this all the time especially if it wants something marginally hidden
It is weird how bad people are at mystery TTRPGs. Even if you go from a point of origin to the scene of a crime and on the way you are blinded by something and arrive at a room with nothing in it that is a _massive_ amount of evidence.
That means someone knows who you are, that you are going to the scene, and that this is in fact the scene and it is being watched over by professionals. You did not observe nothing, observing nothing is not even valid as a concept. If you observe an empty room you observe an empty room, rooms are in fact things, empty is a state. Totally empty rooms are weird.
Love his videos and he gives great advice! What I like about that method is that it doesn't make your characters seem incompetent for not seeing really obvious things that you as the player could notice, while allowing the characters to potentially discover things that you as the player might not have noticed.
@@n0etic_f0x Especially if an investigation check turns up no hair or fingerprints. The people who should be there leave those around all the time incidentally, you should see at least that jumble. I believe that would fall under "tampering with a crime scene."
In addition, clues don't always have to be at the same place or to be obtainable in a single manner. Also from a DM youtube channel where the host said a DM has to be flexible behind the curtain.
Paladin was an attention-junkie plain and simple. I don't feel qualified to say if she was doing this in a malicious sociopathic way or if she was just immature and bought into her own lies, but certainly after all the attention.
I suspect the culprit in the mystery would be some new character introduced in the final scene because the DM would want to protect the big reveal moment at all costs.
I would absolutely try to convince everyone to act as Scooby Doo characters and queue up some Hanna Barbera cartoon sounds on my phone once I realized what was going on with Cthulhupants
In the first story I got as far as "I decided to start a ttrpg club using D&D 4e.". I immediately said out loud "Well there's your problem!".
How the hell do you ALWAYS upload when I need it the most? Had a minor medical complication and I'm in a lot of pain... and now I'm laughing my ass off at Cthulhupants.
Kind of a insincere title, I was expecting laced food or drink. They willingly took drugs.
Wow... uh. Why would you do coke while playing a cooperative game? I have to say I have had some [RUclips-friendly herbal tea] of [Mulberry-Darkroot Marjoram-Alderwood] and... that was a fun game. If you do not know that [tea] makes everyone into Astarion and you are convinced he is flirting with you.
I can fix him
@@CrowePerch no you can’t, he is already perfect. Oh and creepy as it is most people are far more useful at a crime scene than you think.
Even if you are completely drunk you will gather data if you investigate, it simply not possible that you will not do so.
If you are going to fail investigating tell the player _wrong_ information not _no_ information.
_You see a blood stain but no body, evidence of vampires_ would be a failed investigation as long as what killed them is _not_ a vampire. The vampire would be the inverse… bodies but no blood.
@@CrowePerchI can fix him too!
With a wooden stake! Keep up the good work by the way.
1) the ONLY person at a D&D table that it might be better to have on coke is the DM
2) Drinks, weed, and mushrooms make a great session for everyone else
True.
DON'T TEMPT ME FRODO
My first game, the dm/host always had an insane amount of weed specifically for games. I'm not gonna say it made the games better, but it sure made the stupid shit funnier lmao
As someone who smokes and 'gets into character' for these kinda things... All I can say is this, A multidimensional slip'n'slide was involved and a few genocidal wars were started... and someone ended up with a foot baby....
Op in the last story is more insane for somehow NOT RIOTING
I think ignoring the story and just setting the house on fire counts as a form of protest against the gm 😂
I don’t understand why anyone wanted to play with him...
the call of cthulhu one couldve made for a great wider story about like, being stuck in a weird timeloop. wouldve even been fitting for the mythos. but noooo
Cthulupants is the funniest DND story I've heard in AGES.
*CoC story
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Agreed. Weed sounds much more like a chill dnd sesh.😂
Not a Coke game? I suppose you think it's a Pepsi game then? Lol -
More of a Starry game I think
Haunted House!
How do I know its haunted? That guy's face imploded, Nice Guy's face turned completely inside out, And Fat Guy's ass exploded all over the place exercist style
I really dig, how you are covering a larger scope of games, than just DnD. Kudos!
Thanks! I’ve played a lot of games so I try to find stories that cover more than just DnD!
I'm a Warhammer fan, but the Warhammer Fantasy story from this cracked me up! I yet again found myself laughing at work thanks to this. x) The ending was beyond perfect.
Okay...the guy who claimed that Warhammer Fantasy is the best system and that World of Darkness is "too simple"....I think I get what he was on about.
I think "being simple" equated to him with "being able to blend in". The whole point of Vampire: The Masquerade is, that you're not supposed to show what you are and use your vampiric powers in a way, that doesn't breach the Masquerade.
Warhammer - both Fantasy and 40k - on the other hand is an over the top-depiction of Fantasy/Sci Fi. Vampires in that setting are so far down and obvious to recognize as Vampires, that, to someone who prefers the over-the-top nature of Warhammer, yes - Vampires, that try not to be recognized as Vampires, are boring. (similar to all the other supernatural beings in WoD trying their best not to be obvious)
Basically, comparing anything more grounded to Warhammer is dumb. I love WoD and I love Warhammer, but there's a reason I stuck to World of Darkness - I can't do over the top. I gave up running Warhammer Fantasy, bc I tend to run grounded horror anyway; and while there are opportunities to do grounded horror in Warhammer, if your players are prepared for the goofy antics of the regular Warhammer Fantasy-World, it won't work.
For example, one of my (now ex)-players saw the followers of Slaneesh (the god of hedonism and debauchery) as "cool guys that love sex, drugs and rock n roll."
I see the followers and daemons of Slaneesh as basically Cenobites from Hellraiser; beings that have experienced every drug, music, party and emotion to the point they don't feel anything, because they became numb to everything.
Yeah, that's about right for Slaanesh.
I always preferred vampires that blend in and are quite social. Kinda like Dracula.
haunted house ☠️ haunted house ☠️ haunted house ☠️ haunted house ☠️ 👻HAUNTED HOUSE👻
Thats not how cocaine works but go off
I'll be real. While I prefer fully sober play for my tabletop gaming, I wouldn't be comfortable with people doing coke for a game. My Hackmaster group may or may not invite Mary Jane or New Glarus over for the game, but everyone is on edge and most of the group is aggroed enough without coke. Besides, I prefer Zevia cola or Pepsi over Coke
You will now face a war with the Royal Crown! 🤣
Well I've dabbled in the white girl in my day but theres a time and a place for these things. Not the time and place for me personally
talking about the politics of the world of darkness, in the main setting of my family's chronicles there's a town with a historical alliance with vampires, werewolves, mages and fae (I think. there's like 5 in the general area) that dates back to the dark ages. so yeah that's a rather complicated political scope
I've always heard such ideas derogatorily called "superfriends" games but like... Man, it would be rad as fuck to just hang out with a bunch of magic critters and go on cool adventures, right? I've kinda dropped out of the space of WhiteWolf games mostly because of attitudes towards fun ideas like that, though I'm certain there are many fun and friendly groups out there.
Iirc there’s a book called Contagion Chronicle from the Onyx Path side of World of Darkness that did a big crossover where you could use any of the books between Hunter, Vampire, Werewolf, Geist, etc. Could be fun to check out.
I mean I can understand why a college freshman would be worried about getting in trouble for having cocaine at their club meetings but like, I'm with you it's totally uncool to 1) not offer the GM a hit and 2) not double check if it's cool to bring in to the game... Like I honestly love drugs, don't do much other than weed in my old age (mid-30s), but it's basic drug etiquette to double check with a host what poisons they're cool with having around. Like I would never do coke or drink whiskey around a small child and I would never even assume on weed and booze being ok at the gaming table
New bird video
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@@CrowePerch 😺
I hate showing up for some TTRGP fun and it turns into me sitting there bored. Just observing isn't fun unless I'm actively trying to learn the system.
AND that Coke game, that was idiotic. I don't blame the OP immediately ending the club to protect himself/herself
Okay, okay..... haunted house. There, are you happy:-)
YES :)
that was very much consensual, drugging someone is giving them drugs without their knowledge
6:20
OMG i hate this kind of players. Self Absorbed and can't differentiate between Character and Player😂
Micro machine man bard or lawyer Warlock
Lawyer Warlock as Saul Goodman
Just FYI: Gotrek and Felix *are* good books, even if you're not a Warhammer simp.
Haven’t heard of them until now but I might check them out!
@@CrowePerch you should; they’re nothing deep, but but are fun reads, although how many entries in the series there are kinda spoils the premise when you stop to think about it (context, one of the MCs, Gotrek, is a Slayer, which is a dwarf that’s trying to get themself killed by the mightiest enemy they can find to atone for their past crimes/sins. The fact that there are so many books in the series should clue you in to how successful he is in that quest).
Oh no, cute crow stickers.
In hindsight, the player calling his character Crack Sparrow should have been a warning.
Haunted House!
Krankenhaus!
I haven't watched Crowe in a hot minute, I come back here, and that Vtuber avatar snapped my neck clean off
I see Rayman, I click.
I'll bet you it was the out of place bubbly AI appliances and that the GM was a fan of a certain weird-ass Japanese dating game. .... You probably don't want to know.
knife wielding crow? sounds familiar..
Babe wake up new crowe
Haunted House
Nice, best kind of new player. Even brought drugs!😂
Haunted house
Haunted house!!
Haunted House.
My old Barbarian player gave me a TCH gummy at work. Something like 2'000mg (He told me after, and at my job everyone passed around snacks all the time so this was not out of place.) Didn't tell me it was that type of gummy when it was handed to me, but I tasted it. Tride to tough it out not knowing how strong it was to save his job. After lunch I got sick, dizzy, saw in pictures. It was strange, but, I threw up. Best job I ever had fired us both. Now I'm skeptical even letting in weed smokers at my table at all, in the fear they may bring some funky food or temp other players with such distractions. Yes he did bring this stuff to sessions as well. I was dum to take any food sorce from him, but not all of us are druggys who think a gummy is automatically a TCH drug, and yes weed is a drug, it is an addiction, and no you should never be high at the table. Weed is not the acception.
Housed haunt
Did i do the "made it to the end phrase" right
Good enough 👍
Love from a PointyHat and Vaush fan!
There's no cock like horse cock
hunted house
haunted house
What hameplay is in the background?
Blade Runner only had one movie just like Pacific Rim. Anyone who says otherwise is clearly suffering from the Mandela effect.
Why is it always CoC or WoD games that are like this? What's up with these systems? Is it because they are more niche?
IMHO it is because these are horror games. And much like how there are so many bad horror movies, for the same reason you get DMs who run bad horror games. It’s a shame because these are very fun games with the right game master and the right players.
Haunted house!!!
That’s very bad drug etiquette
Never invite Dr. Rockso to a dnd game, baby kekeke yaaaaa 🤡
🐾 Haunted House 🐾
MY MAIIIN MAAAN!!!
Haaaauuuunted, lol. Good vid :)
That Bladerunner story was such a pointless mess.
Please excuse my ignorance, but what's wrong with Shadowrun RAW?
First?
Second!
*counts on fingers*
Thr... Uuh... fifth?
OP is definitely just projecting weird insecurities. Everybodies chilling having fun. OP huge stickler goes to take a piss. Everyone tried to do some blow and have a good time. OP comes back and starts acting like everyones mom. Would never play with this dude again.
Not everyone wants to be involved with cocaine, especially if it can get you in trouble with authorities.
@ArcCaravan OP was about as involved as you are right now
@@archiehughes6203 Not everyone wants to play with people on drugs, especially if it's illegal or on school premises. Could have been held liable for hosting or attending a coke party.
@ArcCaravan How far are you willing to go? You going to piss test and breathalyzer everyone who comes over? Only the people who wanted to do it, did it. You go a ton of places a day, and I guarantee encounter people who use coke in your daily life. They got to test up to talk to you?
"Not everyone wants to play with people on drugs" That's a very general thing to say. What about anti-depressants or focus medications? My point is everyone was having a fun, safe time and he ruined it by projecting. Which is exactly your admission.
@@archiehughes6203 There's a difference between legal medicine and illegal narcotics, these weren't people just walking in the streets, and nobody's obligated to hang out with someone no matter what. OP didn't even judge them, just left after finding out everyone did drugs that could get them in trouble with the university or police. How is choosing to not hang with them the same as demanding drug tests from everyone?