Anyone who plays a tabletop game about wizards, dragons and goblins (myself included) is on pretty thin ice mocking someone else for playing a game about vampires, Werewolves and mages. People in glass houses and all that!
That’s really sad that everyone turned hostile on the player from the last story. It definitely feels like a lot of bad communication and bad faith given towards OP.
I wouldn't call bad faith or bad communication, at least not according to what OP says. Going by their recount, there was clear malicious intent and the desire to mock and humiliate. I honestly think they just wanted to make fun of OP for whatever reason (idiotic D&D elitists who shame people who play different games? queerphobic asses?) Then again, it's OP's recount, and they may be omitting stuff.
the gaslighting story made me realize a group of people I formerly called my friends were gaslighting me. I left them and i couldn’t possibly be happier and more free! thanks for reading the story. i was dropping down a massive hole and this story genuinely helped me.
Jaysus... The one thing that sticks out in my head was the way the group treated OP after he said he needed to bow out because of his school workload. "We all have work, some more than you?" What... the actual... flock here? It's just such a total lack of empathy. Moreover, the guilt-tripping! The only thing I can get out of this is that Charlie didn't want OP to leave because who else could he take his passive-aggressive bullsh*t out on. I honestly wonder if the rest of the group didn't ever chime in because they all have felt Charlie's condescension and were just glad it was on someone else. Feel bad for OP dropping out as well. He said it wasn't related to the game, but being treated like that during time that should have been fun and a way to alleviate the stress of school instead of adding to it. Just... again, Jaysus, man.
Oh insecure DM who thinks Laughing is defusing the situation and hiding your failed attempt at reverse favoritism or targeting and bullying, *Revs up Chainsaw I finally got back from the police because Crowe kept using it to make people play different systems* I wanna have a c.h.a.t. with you
I feel for the last OP. I was friends with other members of my high school sports team for four years. But then, after an incident involving the team as a whole participating in/condoning animal abuse, I spoke out against it, and they pretty much dropped me. They protected the actual participants in the abuse, tore apart my character, and in the end, I realized that they weren't actually my friends. Its hard, because I had so many good memories of my time with all of them, but the memories are tainted now bc of how it ended. At least I graduated that year and I don't have to see them anymore. So yes, I do believe its possible to be dropped by an entire friend group and not be in the wrong.
I saw this story on another channel, and almost every other comment ripped into OP. I'm not saying OP is perfect, there is a possibility that OP may have said or done things that may have annoyed or pissed everyone else off, but that really doesn't excuse how everyone else treated OP when OP tried to talk to everyone else to try to clear up the miscommunication. I am also convinced that Charlie here was gaslighting OP and turning the rest of the group against OP for whatever reason. OP did the right thing and left without making a scene when playing felt more like a chore than fun.
@@PaladinGear15 It's hard to gauge tone here. I, like you, don't think OP was in the wrong at all... but we won't ever know how he actually behaved, so he might have been absolutely honest about his experiences, but may have come across as whiny or something. I'm going to assume other channel's peeps were either annoyed at how he handled it (dude, just quit already!), possibly because they either have been that awkward player (something anyone would feel at a table of mostly strangers) and didn't like reliving the experience. That or the other channel has asshats for commenters. Ya know, like most of the internet.
@Dormaze right? OP did do everything right on their end. They tried to talk things over, tried to clear up miscommunication, asked politely to not be laughed at constantly (like come on, at least let everyone else in on the joke if it's that funny). OP then left fairly early instead of sticking it out for months and left without making a scene because they had the sense that they just didn't fit with the rest of the group. Also the game continued on after they left, not like the game was held hostage on OPs behalf. But everyone insisted that OP was just like a "that guy" who whined and complained and tried to ruin the game for everyone else, when im just not seeing the evidence. It's like people can't grasp that it's possible for friends to drift apart all of a sudden
This has to be such an aweful experience… like I seriously don’t know how someone can just constantly laugh at you, for just suggesting normal things time and time again. And then your friends are all just completely cool with that. That seriously put a pit in my stomach.
Okay, house rule 5 is a success but something absurd happens. You try to read the weird yet familiar language get it mostly tight only for an NPC to correct you. What the king is saying can be found under a house you read when an NPC says _"Horse! No house, under a horse! It means what he is saying is ballocks! Ya know a nut sack! He by lying."_ a fun way to hedge your bet on people failing stuff as a DM
Love it when you drop a new video! Feel bad for this OP it's a damn if you do damn if you don't situation. If they stay they get made fun of and feel like a 3rd wheel and if they leave they are making drama. Hopefully they've made better friends now
I would have gotten up and left at them insinuating that talking to the NPC's was a stupid idea. I mean what are the NPC's even for if not to talk to? I would have started laughing at them even more obnoxiously after I heard the DM's explanation for his laughter...I would have been like "Okay! This game requires a certain level of mutual respect which you don't seem to have for me, and you've clearly lost what I've had for you." I would've speed-run the OP's journey to leaving that group and probably alienated all those girls in the process.
Yeah I remember hearing about this one. The Fact that Charlie and these Girls act like this is still some high school level shit shows how much that they were the that guys and not op.
That Charlie from the gaslighting story at the end wouldn’t be the first dude named ‘Charlie’ to lead a group of women to act like a cult… The alias probably wasn’t chosen for that reference…but it’s darkly fitting all the same.
This feels like a guy who has cursory knowledge of VtM and looks at it like normal people looked at D&D in the 90's, as just some weird freak game for losers, and convinced the other players who had no TTRPG experience that was the case behind OP's back, and that mocking her because of her "bad taste" in TTRPGs was okay. "She's coming from this lame game about pretending to have sex with vampires, she needs to toughen up for a real game like D&D, so I'm going to force her to grow a thicker skin by pushing her into confronting me, or she can leave and we can have a game of actually decent players, untainted by that other trash game," or some shit like that. I kind of wish that the farewell session had happened; it would've probably contextualized the DM's feelings entirely, giving OP the ultimate "fuck you, your character's never coming back after this very clever and ironic ending I have planned based around what I hate about you" experience that they could've brought in both to show what a shithead the DM was in the story, along with having visible proof that the DM was targeting them specifically for a stupid reason he made up in his brain.
Yeah, I do not get the main story. Why is Vampire a funny choice? Why is complementing art a funny choice? Why is hearing a good roll funny? Those all even in a vacuum are... strange to find comical. They said it was not a joke, so they asked what is so funny, it does feel like it is the Enby thing. Like the whole group thinks that is dumb and just never has the heart to say so.
I've heard this story a few times already. And I'm still convinced OP may not be remembering the events all that well. First of all none of his friends, especially Angela who was supposed to be a good friend and not interacting with the others until after D&D started, ever sided with or confirmed to OP what was happening. OP seemed to come off to me as being terribly insecure. I've been there, a long time ago. And I have seen video and audio recordings of events I took part in that, by said evidence, didn't happen anything like I remembered them happening at the time. And I'm wondering if OP isn't having the same thing.
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Yeah, they keep saying it is only them that is being laughed at, that is the thing I doubt because OP is the only throughline. Why laugh at such a variety of things? Crunch and roleplay, depressing things and happy things, in-game things and out-of-game things. It is very strange. I laugh at all strong comments. If it is surprising I tend to laugh at it or if I just like you, in fact, it tends to be a sign that I like you. So I don't get the problem fully, they are laughing but I kind of need to know why.
It does sound like there was a lot of talking behind the OP's back.. It feels like Charlie had a lot of preconceived notions about OP, I wouldn't be surprised if their friends had been talking about them to Charlie during the months before OP joined the group. Otherwise, Charlie just feels way too comfortable with his actions when he's apparently a shy person.
It didn't matter because the thing fizzled out because (I think) of a conflict between DM and one player, and lmao we were asked to roll investigation to read a letter. GUESS WHO KEPT ROLLING 8'S OR LESS. So yeah. Our poor team was illiterate for a day I guess LOL! It was at the point that it was just sorta funny
Gotta be honest, my experiences with Vampire the Masquerade in high school and college kind of make me sympathetic towards anyone who might laugh at hearing it mentioned. I’m not saying every game of it is as cringy as the ones I witnessed but I can imagine what he (Charlie) might have experienced with it that made him laugh. This story also gives off really strong “there’s two sides to every story” vibes. If OP lost his entire group of friends over this scenario, I’m disinclined to believe we are getting the whole picture.
Laughing dm. Second time i heard the story. If i remember the op found another group and is doing better. Maybe the dm was saying he was back seat dming him after the game so the other players started to think he was rude.
I probably overcall for checks but it's more of a "how well do you do this" rather than a "success/fail" like I'll call for alot of knowledge rolls but most results will get at least something... as long as you dont roll a nat one. Also especially good rolls will give advantage on subsequent related checks.
Agreed. A skill check shouldn’t be a pass fail at least outside of combat. I would at least give players some information even if they fail to give them something to go on. Like if they roll low on a check to read a rune or something, I would tell them the language it is in so they have something to go on and if someone in the party has that language in their skills they would get advantage on the roll.
I have a theory on the "Laughing GM" story. I've heard a few D&D players disrespecting V:tm players as edgelords and whiney babies. I play both and when I can and have ideas I'll run both. I've also heard V:tm mocked for the simplicity of the game mechanics and how they push story over mechanics, an idea that is catching on in D&D as well. These idividuals who decide that if you've played a game like V:tm then yiu aren't worthy of playing D&D obviously have little respect for V:tm because of either simple ignorance or they found themselves overwhelmed by V:tm as while the mechanics are simple, the story is rich and dynamic and can be very complicated. I'm not going to play their game and hate on them because if you get into it Vampire is very complicated. I mean I have issues with it sometimes. My only issue with them is people like this J***a** of a DM from the story. The kind who want to humiliate players if they try to compare experience being a DM to experience as a Storyteller. They each have their complexity and both are very difficult. He will learn eventually that the culture of D&D has been replaced by the culture of gaming in general. (that being the old school use of gaming and not the current definition that revolves around video games) ( not hating on video game players cuz I do that too. I only hate on A**hats who think it is their job and privilege to hate on others because of where their experience comes from. Thank you, Rant over and I hope everyone has a good day and a good table to play at this week.
That last story i dont mean to impune their honor but. If you meet one jerk today thats unfortunate, if everyone you meet today is a jerk then you might be the jerk.
I'm betting that OP isn't telling the whole story. Can't be 100% sure but "good friends" don't just drop a friend from their group to hang out with someone new unless the older friend is/was being a massive dickhead at the table.
Wow, a horror story that involves VtM and it's not the VtM player being crazy. Joking aside, Charlie was a dickbag. I make fun of VtM because I've played it, but nerds that won't try anything but DnD are the literal worst. College students acting like middle schoolers, smdh.
VtM has the potential to be fun but has soooooooo much more potential for ultra-cringe. Especially at high school/college years. Sorry, being a bit of an age-ist here but… kids at those ages are just way too angsty for that game.
The 5e players handbook actually shows 5 being the lowest possible dc, not 10. 10 is supposed to be something easy that you can do almost every time, whereas 5 is extremely easy. You wouldn't even need that high of a skill to always pass a 5.
@@eldritch-rage It'd be funny but the vtube model was originally just for an april fools meme. If I had a model that was basically just a 3d version of the crow i use now I totally would
God, that DM makes my skin crawl. Gaslighting is something that I know all too well, and I sympathize with OP immensely. Charlie reminds me of someone who I had to deal with in high school, and it was a miserable experience. On a different note, I know Warframe Gameplay when I see, who's your main?
Been maining Saryn Prime, I hadn’t played her since they had updated her and I’m not used to how strong she is now. Running like 200%+ range and I pop a spore and it goes through a wall and attaches on a dude three rooms away lol
the only times I've ever seen comment sections turn on an OP so fast is when OP is open about being some variation of trans or on the autism spectrum. wonder if there is a correlation there??
Doubt it but I can honestly say, the thing about this story that makes me question the OP is that the entire group broke off contact with them. Someone else in this comment section said it best, “if you mean one jerk today, that person is a jerk. If everyone you meet is a jerk, you’re probably the problem.” Even the person OP said was a really close friend took the side of a person she barely knew over OP. It just feels like there’s a lot of “we aren’t getting the full story” here.
Tbh I’m a little sus of the first OP cuz it’s right that they should have kicked them out if they didn’t want OP in the group, but I have this sense a lot of information is missing. It sounds like all the other players know exactly what’s going on, and like Charlie and the others are too perfectly evil. There is definitely something amiss here
Clearly, the DM didn't just kick her because she joined with someone he actually liked, so he was worried that if he kicked her, she would leave too, so he gaslighted her so she would leave on her own and look like a dick. Also, no, the girls weren't all into him. This isn't a manga where all the female characters are inexplicably attracted to some random geek. He was probably just spouting some bullshit about her, and he was convincing enough that they all believed him. As for the possible reason that it was because she was a-gendered or whatever, it's unclear since she was pretty vague about that whole thing, but if she was talking about her sexuality and gender identity a lot, that might explain it since trying to involve unrelated people in something that personal can make them uncomfortable, but if you tell them to stop or kick them from the group because of that, you'll be labeled a bigot, so trying to get them to leave on their own is the only option.
that last story is a little odd, since everyone in the party seems to turn against them. If everything they say is true, then the party are all assholes, but there might be something they missed if everyone turned on them. That being said, the party would still be dicks for not being clear on their issues with OP.
Personally I believe this story to be true, but also faulty. I think there was a deeper reason for why the group was so intent on mocking this player, perhaps its a reason that OP is ashamed of mentioning or one that OP is unaware of. Either way it feels like this is one of those situations where you can't make an accurate guess on what happened as its only being told through a skewed perspective. Though the emotion is real, the story is read and written by someone who felt this happen to them. So I believe this is true, but to why it happened is an unknown. Maybe their is more to it, maybe there isn't. The internet is full of holes and assumptions.
4:33 I'll spoil it for you, there isn't one as a specialsnowflake tumblr gender it is just made up by some shallow individual that seeks attention. While the DM's way of acting was certainly odd, the closing sentence from OP just stinks of "woe is me I did nothing wrong but still everybody hates me". Usually dead giveaway that something is left out of the story that would incriminate the OP.
Anyone who plays a tabletop game about wizards, dragons and goblins (myself included) is on pretty thin ice mocking someone else for playing a game about vampires, Werewolves and mages. People in glass houses and all that!
People in glass houses need better ammunition.
they should either change without light or charge for turning the light on?
What do you think about Weird West
That’s really sad that everyone turned hostile on the player from the last story. It definitely feels like a lot of bad communication and bad faith given towards OP.
This story appeard on another channel and the majority of the comments just ripped into OP. Ir honestly made me a little sad
Human are trash so not suprising
Everyone is super fixated on the fact that OP apparently "invited" themself to the game as if that excuses the shitty abusive behavior of the DM.
@@AzriusN which they didn't. They asked if they could join, as their other friends said that they could join when they had the time to play.
I wouldn't call bad faith or bad communication, at least not according to what OP says. Going by their recount, there was clear malicious intent and the desire to mock and humiliate. I honestly think they just wanted to make fun of OP for whatever reason (idiotic D&D elitists who shame people who play different games? queerphobic asses?) Then again, it's OP's recount, and they may be omitting stuff.
the gaslighting story made me realize a group of people I formerly called my friends were gaslighting me. I left them and i couldn’t possibly be happier and more free!
thanks for reading the story. i was dropping down a massive hole and this story genuinely helped me.
That story about the laughing dm was very uncomfortable.
Yep. Made worse with everyone basically gaslighting OP into being a "that guy".
To the OP in the laughing DM story: with "friends" like those, who needs enemies.
Jaysus... The one thing that sticks out in my head was the way the group treated OP after he said he needed to bow out because of his school workload. "We all have work, some more than you?" What... the actual... flock here? It's just such a total lack of empathy. Moreover, the guilt-tripping! The only thing I can get out of this is that Charlie didn't want OP to leave because who else could he take his passive-aggressive bullsh*t out on. I honestly wonder if the rest of the group didn't ever chime in because they all have felt Charlie's condescension and were just glad it was on someone else. Feel bad for OP dropping out as well. He said it wasn't related to the game, but being treated like that during time that should have been fun and a way to alleviate the stress of school instead of adding to it. Just... again, Jaysus, man.
Oh insecure DM who thinks Laughing is defusing the situation and hiding your failed attempt at reverse favoritism or targeting and bullying, *Revs up Chainsaw I finally got back from the police because Crowe kept using it to make people play different systems* I wanna have a c.h.a.t. with you
*Cocks shotgun* "I just wanna talk to him."
I feel for the last OP. I was friends with other members of my high school sports team for four years. But then, after an incident involving the team as a whole participating in/condoning animal abuse, I spoke out against it, and they pretty much dropped me. They protected the actual participants in the abuse, tore apart my character, and in the end, I realized that they weren't actually my friends. Its hard, because I had so many good memories of my time with all of them, but the memories are tainted now bc of how it ended. At least I graduated that year and I don't have to see them anymore.
So yes, I do believe its possible to be dropped by an entire friend group and not be in the wrong.
4:31 I always thought that the NB version of "That Guy" was "That Player"
I think it would be simply "That."
I saw this story on another channel, and almost every other comment ripped into OP. I'm not saying OP is perfect, there is a possibility that OP may have said or done things that may have annoyed or pissed everyone else off, but that really doesn't excuse how everyone else treated OP when OP tried to talk to everyone else to try to clear up the miscommunication. I am also convinced that Charlie here was gaslighting OP and turning the rest of the group against OP for whatever reason. OP did the right thing and left without making a scene when playing felt more like a chore than fun.
Why'd anyone rip into OP? I don't see a single thing here OP did wrong...
@@PaladinGear15 It's hard to gauge tone here. I, like you, don't think OP was in the wrong at all... but we won't ever know how he actually behaved, so he might have been absolutely honest about his experiences, but may have come across as whiny or something. I'm going to assume other channel's peeps were either annoyed at how he handled it (dude, just quit already!), possibly because they either have been that awkward player (something anyone would feel at a table of mostly strangers) and didn't like reliving the experience.
That or the other channel has asshats for commenters. Ya know, like most of the internet.
OP might have been biased, OP might have interpret something differently, we get only point of view in this very short story
@Dormaze right? OP did do everything right on their end. They tried to talk things over, tried to clear up miscommunication, asked politely to not be laughed at constantly (like come on, at least let everyone else in on the joke if it's that funny). OP then left fairly early instead of sticking it out for months and left without making a scene because they had the sense that they just didn't fit with the rest of the group. Also the game continued on after they left, not like the game was held hostage on OPs behalf. But everyone insisted that OP was just like a "that guy" who whined and complained and tried to ruin the game for everyone else, when im just not seeing the evidence. It's like people can't grasp that it's possible for friends to drift apart all of a sudden
Exactly. It's wrong to try to pass judgement on someone without in-context proof or hearing everyone else's side of the story.
This has to be such an aweful experience… like I seriously don’t know how someone can just constantly laugh at you, for just suggesting normal things time and time again. And then your friends are all just completely cool with that. That seriously put a pit in my stomach.
I submit "That-by" for consideration
The chaotic energy you exude makes me want to see how you would GM.
I totally agree with Crowe here. This social dynamic sounds like a nightmare. Yeah, these people weren't your friends.
The Laughing DM- "What I thought I'd do is role-play being one of those deaf-mutes."
Okay, house rule 5 is a success but something absurd happens. You try to read the weird yet familiar language get it mostly tight only for an NPC to correct you. What the king is saying can be found under a house you read when an NPC says _"Horse! No house, under a horse! It means what he is saying is ballocks! Ya know a nut sack! He by lying."_ a fun way to hedge your bet on people failing stuff as a DM
The British answer to your ENBY "that guy" question would be "That'un" or from my local dialect "Thon yin".
In my dialect, we'd just call ENBY that guys "That fucker"
Love it when you drop a new video! Feel bad for this OP it's a damn if you do damn if you don't situation. If they stay they get made fun of and feel like a 3rd wheel and if they leave they are making drama. Hopefully they've made better friends now
The videos between intro and story 1 reminds me so much of the narrative declaration gang.
@@mrosskne They livestream pathfinder 2e. Great stuff.
OMG Warframe gameplay in the background!
Op really be casting hideous laughter too much
I would have gotten up and left at them insinuating that talking to the NPC's was a stupid idea. I mean what are the NPC's even for if not to talk to? I would have started laughing at them even more obnoxiously after I heard the DM's explanation for his laughter...I would have been like "Okay! This game requires a certain level of mutual respect which you don't seem to have for me, and you've clearly lost what I've had for you." I would've speed-run the OP's journey to leaving that group and probably alienated all those girls in the process.
Yeah I remember hearing about this one. The Fact that Charlie and these Girls act like this is still some high school level shit shows how much that they were the that guys and not op.
That Charlie from the gaslighting story at the end wouldn’t be the first dude named ‘Charlie’ to lead a group of women to act like a cult…
The alias probably wasn’t chosen for that reference…but it’s darkly fitting all the same.
Now THAT is some shifty "friends".
Great narrating good crow sir.
The title is so fucking funny lmao
This feels like a guy who has cursory knowledge of VtM and looks at it like normal people looked at D&D in the 90's, as just some weird freak game for losers, and convinced the other players who had no TTRPG experience that was the case behind OP's back, and that mocking her because of her "bad taste" in TTRPGs was okay. "She's coming from this lame game about pretending to have sex with vampires, she needs to toughen up for a real game like D&D, so I'm going to force her to grow a thicker skin by pushing her into confronting me, or she can leave and we can have a game of actually decent players, untainted by that other trash game," or some shit like that. I kind of wish that the farewell session had happened; it would've probably contextualized the DM's feelings entirely, giving OP the ultimate "fuck you, your character's never coming back after this very clever and ironic ending I have planned based around what I hate about you" experience that they could've brought in both to show what a shithead the DM was in the story, along with having visible proof that the DM was targeting them specifically for a stupid reason he made up in his brain.
Was that war frame you were playing during this video?
Saryn Prime, I hadn't played her since the rework and she's a lot stronger than I remembered her being lol
Is Sackboy from LittleBigPlanet a Golem or a contract?
Wizard's poppet
Yeah, I do not get the main story. Why is Vampire a funny choice? Why is complementing art a funny choice? Why is hearing a good roll funny? Those all even in a vacuum are... strange to find comical. They said it was not a joke, so they asked what is so funny, it does feel like it is the Enby thing. Like the whole group thinks that is dumb and just never has the heart to say so.
I've heard this story a few times already. And I'm still convinced OP may not be remembering the events all that well. First of all none of his friends, especially Angela who was supposed to be a good friend and not interacting with the others until after D&D started, ever sided with or confirmed to OP what was happening. OP seemed to come off to me as being terribly insecure. I've been there, a long time ago. And I have seen video and audio recordings of events I took part in that, by said evidence, didn't happen anything like I remembered them happening at the time. And I'm wondering if OP isn't having the same thing.
@@davidtherwhanger6795 Yeah, they keep saying it is only them that is being laughed at, that is the thing I doubt because OP is the only throughline.
Why laugh at such a variety of things? Crunch and roleplay, depressing things and happy things, in-game things and out-of-game things. It is very strange.
I laugh at all strong comments. If it is surprising I tend to laugh at it or if I just like you, in fact, it tends to be a sign that I like you. So I don't get the problem fully, they are laughing but I kind of need to know why.
DM:"Oh, you play [Insert other TTRPG System]? Hahaha. Oh, how quant."
Player:"...D&D 4e."
DM: *Pizza Tower Scream Meme*
It does sound like there was a lot of talking behind the OP's back.. It feels like Charlie had a lot of preconceived notions about OP, I wouldn't be surprised if their friends had been talking about them to Charlie during the months before OP joined the group. Otherwise, Charlie just feels way too comfortable with his actions when he's apparently a shy person.
It didn't matter because the thing fizzled out because (I think) of a conflict between DM and one player, and lmao we were asked to roll investigation to read a letter. GUESS WHO KEPT ROLLING 8'S OR LESS. So yeah. Our poor team was illiterate for a day I guess LOL! It was at the point that it was just sorta funny
Gotta be honest, my experiences with Vampire the Masquerade in high school and college kind of make me sympathetic towards anyone who might laugh at hearing it mentioned. I’m not saying every game of it is as cringy as the ones I witnessed but I can imagine what he (Charlie) might have experienced with it that made him laugh. This story also gives off really strong “there’s two sides to every story” vibes. If OP lost his entire group of friends over this scenario, I’m disinclined to believe we are getting the whole picture.
12:04 tHE TIDUS LAUGH-
Laughing dm. Second time i heard the story. If i remember the op found another group and is doing better. Maybe the dm was saying he was back seat dming him after the game so the other players started to think he was rude.
I probably overcall for checks but it's more of a "how well do you do this" rather than a "success/fail" like I'll call for alot of knowledge rolls but most results will get at least something... as long as you dont roll a nat one.
Also especially good rolls will give advantage on subsequent related checks.
Agreed. A skill check shouldn’t be a pass fail at least outside of combat. I would at least give players some information even if they fail to give them something to go on. Like if they roll low on a check to read a rune or something, I would tell them the language it is in so they have something to go on and if someone in the party has that language in their skills they would get advantage on the roll.
I have a theory on the "Laughing GM" story. I've heard a few D&D players disrespecting V:tm players as edgelords and whiney babies. I play both and when I can and have ideas I'll run both. I've also heard V:tm mocked for the simplicity of the game mechanics and how they push story over mechanics, an idea that is catching on in D&D as well. These idividuals who decide that if you've played a game like V:tm then yiu aren't worthy of playing D&D obviously have little respect for V:tm because of either simple ignorance or they found themselves overwhelmed by V:tm as while the mechanics are simple, the story is rich and dynamic and can be very complicated. I'm not going to play their game and hate on them because if you get into it Vampire is very complicated. I mean I have issues with it sometimes. My only issue with them is people like this J***a** of a DM from the story. The kind who want to humiliate players if they try to compare experience being a DM to experience as a Storyteller. They each have their complexity and both are very difficult. He will learn eventually that the culture of D&D has been replaced by the culture of gaming in general. (that being the old school use of gaming and not the current definition that revolves around video games) ( not hating on video game players cuz I do that too. I only hate on A**hats who think it is their job and privilege to hate on others because of where their experience comes from. Thank you, Rant over and I hope everyone has a good day and a good table to play at this week.
Laughing GM
Did you call yourself an absentee father cuz Net calls you dad? 😂 seriously though, it's cool to see a new video from you!
Laughing GM
Laughing DM...
That last story i dont mean to impune their honor but. If you meet one jerk today thats unfortunate, if everyone you meet today is a jerk then you might be the jerk.
laughing gm
I'm betting that OP isn't telling the whole story. Can't be 100% sure but "good friends" don't just drop a friend from their group to hang out with someone new unless the older friend is/was being a massive dickhead at the table.
Wow, a horror story that involves VtM and it's not the VtM player being crazy. Joking aside, Charlie was a dickbag. I make fun of VtM because I've played it, but nerds that won't try anything but DnD are the literal worst. College students acting like middle schoolers, smdh.
VtM has the potential to be fun but has soooooooo much more potential for ultra-cringe. Especially at high school/college years. Sorry, being a bit of an age-ist here but… kids at those ages are just way too angsty for that game.
That DM was a prick. Seriously, laughing at OP like that? I hope this experience didn't ruin D&D for him.
Enby version suggestion is "That player"
im mad the second one missed the chance to name the girls after Charlie's Angels given the GM was named Charlie in the story /lh
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laughing a-hole GM :/
The 5e players handbook actually shows 5 being the lowest possible dc, not 10. 10 is supposed to be something easy that you can do almost every time, whereas 5 is extremely easy. You wouldn't even need that high of a skill to always pass a 5.
So Jacob is a vtuber now huh. I always knew it was only a matter of time
Only during stream days, otherwise I'm still a png bird
@@CrowePerch coward, vtube the horror stories like a real birb
@Crowe's Perch not only a vtuber but a Warframe vtuber. Saryn prime does look cool.
@@eldritch-rage It'd be funny but the vtube model was originally just for an april fools meme. If I had a model that was basically just a 3d version of the crow i use now I totally would
@@rocknrevolt938 100%, great design on DE's part
God, that DM makes my skin crawl. Gaslighting is something that I know all too well, and I sympathize with OP immensely. Charlie reminds me of someone who I had to deal with in high school, and it was a miserable experience.
On a different note, I know Warframe Gameplay when I see, who's your main?
Been maining Saryn Prime, I hadn’t played her since they had updated her and I’m not used to how strong she is now. Running like 200%+ range and I pop a spore and it goes through a wall and attaches on a dude three rooms away lol
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the only times I've ever seen comment sections turn on an OP so fast is when OP is open about being some variation of trans or on the autism spectrum. wonder if there is a correlation there??
Doubt it but I can honestly say, the thing about this story that makes me question the OP is that the entire group broke off contact with them. Someone else in this comment section said it best, “if you mean one jerk today, that person is a jerk. If everyone you meet is a jerk, you’re probably the problem.” Even the person OP said was a really close friend took the side of a person she barely knew over OP. It just feels like there’s a lot of “we aren’t getting the full story” here.
i think you got the wrong story title in the Description
this is the proper story title: GM laughs at me everytime I contribute and gets mad when I want to leave by trans_scribe
fixed it. for some reason youtube didn't save it from last time i edited the description so I just fixed it on my phone
Tbh I’m a little sus of the first OP cuz it’s right that they should have kicked them out if they didn’t want OP in the group, but I have this sense a lot of information is missing. It sounds like all the other players know exactly what’s going on, and like Charlie and the others are too perfectly evil. There is definitely something amiss here
Clearly, the DM didn't just kick her because she joined with someone he actually liked, so he was worried that if he kicked her, she would leave too, so he gaslighted her so she would leave on her own and look like a dick. Also, no, the girls weren't all into him. This isn't a manga where all the female characters are inexplicably attracted to some random geek. He was probably just spouting some bullshit about her, and he was convincing enough that they all believed him. As for the possible reason that it was because she was a-gendered or whatever, it's unclear since she was pretty vague about that whole thing, but if she was talking about her sexuality and gender identity a lot, that might explain it since trying to involve unrelated people in something that personal can make them uncomfortable, but if you tell them to stop or kick them from the group because of that, you'll be labeled a bigot, so trying to get them to leave on their own is the only option.
that last story is a little odd, since everyone in the party seems to turn against them. If everything they say is true, then the party are all assholes, but there might be something they missed if everyone turned on them. That being said, the party would still be dicks for not being clear on their issues with OP.
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Personally I believe this story to be true, but also faulty. I think there was a deeper reason for why the group was so intent on mocking this player, perhaps its a reason that OP is ashamed of mentioning or one that OP is unaware of. Either way it feels like this is one of those situations where you can't make an accurate guess on what happened as its only being told through a skewed perspective.
Though the emotion is real, the story is read and written by someone who felt this happen to them. So I believe this is true, but to why it happened is an unknown. Maybe their is more to it, maybe there isn't. The internet is full of holes and assumptions.
I don't know; but this seems to be missing like ALOT of info
I hear “enby” and I lose all respect for them. If everyone was treating them poorly, chances are they’re the problem and are lying
Nice of you to out yourself right away. Very considerate of you.
Did you take someone's vtuber footage lmao
A fan made me a vtuber model I use for streams
@@CrowePerch understandable, have a nice day. 🤡😅
4:33 I'll spoil it for you, there isn't one as a specialsnowflake tumblr gender it is just made up by some shallow individual that seeks attention.
While the DM's way of acting was certainly odd, the closing sentence from OP just stinks of "woe is me I did nothing wrong but still everybody hates me". Usually dead giveaway that something is left out of the story that would incriminate the OP.
Oh look it's the DM.
Are you okay??? Wtf
@@SavagePassion666 Nope, but clearly you don't care about reality.
@@isak7753 I'm perfectly fine, you on the other hand though...
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2nd story op keeping alot of info out of it and i think they lying or this is fake b/c nothing adding up in it
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