How to Etch with White Vinegar (Kitchen Lithography Variation)
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2012
- Last week I happened upon videos about kitchen lithography. It got me very excited! I couldn't wait to try the process out for myself. But, what occurred to me was that it was the acidic properties of cola that was responsible for the etch. This led me to believe that white vinegar might be a more practical alternative to etch with. Practical in the sense that it's just as acidic as cola, can be re-used many times, thereby becoming more cost effective. As you can see by the results on the video, the process works equally as well using white vinegar as the etch instead of cola. Here is a list of the materials you'll need to do the process yourself:
1. Heavy Duty aluminum foil (Use dull side to work on)
2. Gloves
3. Litho crayon
4. Piece of plexi-glass
5. Vegetable oil
6. Paper towels
7. Plastic tub
8. White vinegar
9. Water
10. Etching or relief ink
11. Brayer
12. Sponges
13. Trays for water
14. Paper
15. Spoon or etching press
I plan to try more experiments using white vinegar in the future. Will post more results for you to see.
P.S. I had two semesters of lithography at community college so I know what I'm talking about. :) (ha ha!) 
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This is a fun project to introduce students to printmaking without using acid. Excellent video.
I took lithography in college and loved the chemistry. This is a great reminder and a good way to do it at home. Thank you for sharing.
This is a 5 century old technology! although it's is great to see that people are still learning these technics to keep history alive!
For those wondering why so much trouble was spent when 'just draw on the paper directly' would do just as well, this is ART people! It's a process that's not practiced by many anymore. This used to be the only way to make pictures, photos, etc. I took a printmaking class in college and found it very interesting. Lots of fun and educational as well.
I can't imagine ever doing this but it is seriously interesting. Especially the part where it suggests you can save soda for dinner! Really did enjoy this.
Love seeing the old craft, but it makes me grateful for the photocopier.
Let's see... vinegar? check. oil? check. sponges? check. Professional floor-model etching press? Hmmm... Not under the sink... Not in the pantry... Not hanging from the pot rack...
Lol.. and you forgot one other "ingredient"... TALENT to make the the drawing!
LOL by the time this video started to the time it was over. I could of drew 200 of those dogs on a peace of paper............
Tibor Sallai
cant you just scan the image you draw and print it with a printer like a million times? what am i missing here?
Jörgen Börg
omg no soul
Maybe a pasta machine might work? If you have one... they're a lot cheaper than a printing press anyway ;)
Mate, great demonstration of a crude but effective method of lithography. To the (why didn't you just draw it on the paper first?) negative and ignorant bellends giving you grief bellow, this is a method used to reproduce exactly the same image more than once, over and over, so that monks didn't have to hand write every page of the bible, or whatever other information that needed to be disseminated. This dude is simply showing you the basis of lithography, ie that oil and water don't mix. The vinegar etch is required to produce an anodised surface that is hydrophilic, and will shed the oily ink when dampened with water. Prior to lithography, printing was a much more labour intensive process (letterpress or relief) where the image and none image areas were differentiated physically, rather than chemically, and had to be either cut into wood, or cast in a lead alloy. Like many inventions, lithography was discovered by accident, by a gentleman, Alois Senefelder, and is in use today.
Really excellent comment! Thank you🙏
What a great explanation. Thanks I didn’t realize the way lithographs works vs cut prints
Writings were never lithographed. Lithography was invented in 1798 long after the invention of the printing press. And as a matter of fact this kind of edging is not a lithography because a proper lithography plate is engraved in stone... But it is a nice and creativ way of making art prints.
Thanks for sharing. I can't believe all the trolls posting rude comments. Print making is an old form of art. It would be a better use of your time than being rude on people's videos. Sorry for all the jerks out there!
Laura Stewart we aren't being rude just don't understand. I always ask questions when I don't understand something.
Kathy Myers printmaking is a very complex and elusive form of art. You can't just jump in and think you can understand it all in one tutorial. Start off first by learn something more easier to grasp. Say relief printing. Then move on to something like silkscreen. Once you figure that out you'll have a better idea of what printmaking is. Then it would be recommended to learn more about etchs and their relationship to stone/metal.. Lithography. It's like trying to play Mozart when you have just barely started playing piano.
Because he didn’t EXPLAIN anything, he just showed what he was doing, ..gave no reason for how or why.
I was so excited to see this being done in your kitchen with basics. Can't wait to try my own. Thanks!
Your Kitchen has an Etching Press ?
I have a litho my aunt made for me and I always wondered what the process was -- thanks for posting -- it was very interesting.
Thank you for sharing this video. I believe the purpose was for demonstrating the method and technique.
The thought came to mind while watching: we're in far too big a hurry these days. Thank you so very much!
great vid, great tutorial. Just like my printmaking class in college. The negatve comments below are very odd. The idea of printmaking is the ability to create a series of the same or similar images, using artist pigments and materials. What you get out of a printer is just a mixture of the 4 same colors (cyan magenta yellow and black). When you do printmaking you have an incredible world of colors (ie pigments, literally clumps of minerals and such) each with their own reflective properties, opacity, vibrancy, not to mention to chemistry of mixing them. Print out a van gogh and hold it up to the real painting, big difference. Same is true of even the most simple line drawings in black and white litho. You can't reproduce the real oil based, PERMANENT ink on the paper with a printer, nor can you ever get the incredible minute details no matter how fine you DPI is. Another fun bit about prints from a traditional process vs a printer, you can get small variations in the prints when done traditionally. These variations can actually give a certain life to each one. If printed from a printer, the only variation you'll get is unwanted, unless it's those cool color bars when one of the inks goes out, but thats just an abstraction of the point ;). But indeed, one does not need "talent" to do printmaking. Draw a bunch of squiggles, it'll look cool. Expirment. Have fun.
this comment is actually insightful.. i missed the whole point of lithography.
+Matt Seremet
Indeed.
~deleted my response to an inappropriate comment~
what other metals do you think would work with this? Im trying to etch but I don't want to use those harsh chemicals or a battery lol :P
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This is cool. For some reason this reminded me of making copies for my elementary school teachers in the early 1970's. I think it was called a stencil and stencil press. I haven't thought of that in ages. Thanks for sharing your video! 🙂
LOL - How to etch using white vinegar, aluminium kitchen foil and oh yeh, a lithography press, because everyone has one of those lying around!
its an etching press....but yeah, I agree.
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there are die cutting machines that can be used as pressed (because it's the same mechanism) and they sell for about $39 starting for a 4-5" wide pressure roller area. So you could make it easily; especially if it's something smaller than 6". I actually have one that covers anything smaller than 8.75" x 15" and it was only $125.
omg! i'd forgotten about those washers! i would stay with my dad and stepmom in the summer, when i was a kid (in the 70's) and she used one of those washers. i remember being fascinated by it. i got in trouble several times for trying to run all kinds of shit through it. i think your idea to try to use one for a press is awesome and now i want to try it! LOL
Lol before watching the video I read your comment.....too funny! Thanks for the warning 🤣😂
you're method of showing what to do if one fails the first time.....is much appreciated as many tutorials assume .....all will go well on the day......and we all know how that goes.....murphy always carried erasors.
I like the look of the final product!
Very interesting to see that whole process in action. I guess you now have a plate of your art which you can ink over and over again, making x amount of printings, kind of like wood block prints? I always love the look of prints. Thank you for sharing!
OMG! Why have I never seen this before?! Fantastic methodology! Thank you so very much for posting this.
Thanks for sharing this! I'm always looking for more enviro friendly ways to make prints and this is a great process! I think it would also serve as a terrific introduction to lithography for my school students. Thank you 😊
This technique is a great!. I've tried litho with stones and it's really heavy to deal with. I will definitely try this method. Thanks for share!
These commenters obviously have no idea what the art of printmaking is all about. I thought this was an awesome video. It makes me want to build a press and start printmaking again. Nice job!
malnatik9@Gmail.com Most of the video was him showing the etching process. That was the focus of the video.
Why are you annoyed? I liked the video, and it was useful. I am one of the many people who like printmaking, and would love to have a press of their own.
I fucking hated it. My inner self is crawling with anger. My little mind can't understand what magic this is....
How is there two dogs 😠
Cool. Amazing. Never seen that before. Thanks for posting.
I also want to know how the image was applied to the foil....
Thanks for sharing that with us
I'm amazed by the amount of people here who clearly missed the point with comments like, "Print at the store for 10 cents...Draw on paper..." will you do some online research and visit some galleries and get a clue before you make opinions devaluing the artistic process?
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Very cool. I love how he showed how to use vinegar and oil to not destroy the foil. I see people using their hands all the time because they can't think of anything or they just crumple it up and throw it away.
This a very nice video. Yes, you could have drawn the image, but you were demonstrating how to produce an etching print. I'm going to try this. Thank you.
This was freaking awesome! Thank you for sharing!
Brilliant video. Thank you for sharing. This is something I will be trying.
Shame about some of the idiotic remarks left by viewers.
shame some idiots are taken in by this drivel...
can't wait to try this and im glad i dont need to waste my cola! thank you,this will be a fun craft project to do. there are so many printmaking techniques, and people who say that it would be easier just drawn on paper don't realise the actual process is why people are into the variety of printmaking. the fun is in the process. if you have no clue what printmaking techniques are google that first before ridiculing someone trying to make it easier for those who want to learn
That worked well. For all the people that posted uninformed comments, this is just a quick sample to show the process. Etching plates are more expensive than just a sheet of tin foil. I have a BFA from KCAI. I think you can do litho on clay art boards and litho crayons with a similar sort of process. Let's see someone find a lithostone and the process to do that. (That's why I switched from printmaking to painting as my major.) I've seen rollers used to make flat sheets of ceramic clay that might be cost effective maybe, I've never tried to see the prices of those.
awesome job iv never screen this done before i cant wait to try it thanks a million for posting i look forward to watching more videos from you in the feature
That is really clever! I never realized Vinegar was aggressive enough to get that deep an impression! Will have to try that! I wonder if a pasta machine would work to roll it through if we don't have a printing press?
That’s what I was thinking! I’m about to try!
Oh.. just realized this comments over 7 years old 🥴
Pretty cool. I took 2 years of print making in college but never thought of a Rube Goldberg method like this. It might have been better to enplane the purpose of an acid etch and oil resist etc. because lithography chemistry and methods are a bit hard to grasp at first.
Way different from the huge and heavy litho stones I used to lug around the studio.
Very interesting! Demonstrating a few processes super clearly!
*WELL DONE!* I have no artistic ability nor will probably ever do this but your video was *very informative* for someone like me that enjoys just learning random stuff. Thanks!!
I agree I can believe all that but u not show how u got image????? Rest all after that we check I hope u reply which I think u never oh which in u used.........
@@khalidlatif3577 I'm not sure. You replied to my comment when I think you want to post a comment on the actual video so they will see it better. Good luck!
@@adamemac sorry it's taken as u and ur reply I never mean it basically I sent that to real man who made this video sorry again
@@khalidlatif3577 No problem at all. I hope you get an answer to your question.
Love this video! I couldn`t do the Etching technique because my school doesn`t provide it for safety reasons. But with this easy to go!
Mindblown :0 he trabajado la litografia tradicional con las piedras asi mismo con las planchas de zinc, pero me he quedado sin palabras. Gracias por el video, impresionate. Sublime.
Nice demo and explanations. Glad you explained about the plate needing to be damp for inking.
Thank you for this posting! I took lithography a few years ago, using stones. Can I copper plate to do this?
Where did you get your press from?
Great demo!
Start as a "aluminum salad" and end as a noodle maker. So nice!
Hi from Argentina!
brilliant! I didn't realise I could wash off the veg oil just with water, once the plate is wet. I'll be braver now..
and I really like your drawing, too.
Yet you can't spell such a common word. Realize
Thanks, appreciated your video.
Oh I love this. I cant wait to do it with my 3rd graders. We are trying every "safe" printmaking technique we can. Thanks!
That's really cool, thanks for sharing :)
that was cool. I might try this with my art work. thanks for the video
Great video. I would have liked to see more of the pint set-up as well.
Cool, thank you!
Wow! Very cool. I will definitely have to give this a try now! :)
Really, people? "I would have just drawn it on the paper" commenters need to get educated. Drawing it on the paper would then be a drawing and not a print. You want one drawing or many prints of the same drawing? Great tutorial jjewelart. Very helpful for real artists trying to make a go of it on a shoe string budget. And for those of you that don't have a press, I saw another video where this woman used a hand roller as a press for her print to show the difference between hand printing and using an etching press. I am going to try a heavy marble rolling pin to see if it will yield comparable results. I think the video was by Akua Printing.
That was a pretty good tutorial. I enjoyed knowing the process. Although I think he took a little long between steps but other than that was very interesting. I paint with oils, acrylics and airbrush art but was always curious about printing and lithography. This is great if you are trying to create many prints. I actually like this better than screen printing.
Ohhhhh! That is so cool! Now, I have an alternative to ferric acid and copper plate. Yay!
Awesome! Alphonse Poitevin would be thrilled. No idea cola was that acidic. I often use vinegar as a pickle in my jewellery making. Great video, thank you!
How you applied the image, and with what ink before you started the rest would have helped.
What number(hardness/greasiness) litho crayons do you use for this process?
Wow. Amazing technique!!
Thank you!
Lamento que não tem legenda em português .Adorei mas como não entendo nada em inglês . Achei muito interessante. Muito obrigada. Sucesso.
Technically this isn't actually lithography as lithography uses etching into stone, this is just plate printing but it's very cool anyway.
outstanding
can't wait to try this Tha
nk You!
I haven't had to make any print run of more than 10, but I have read on different sites that as many as 50 prints can be made from a single plate.
interesting approach!
How do I print the image using a spoon? I cannot afford a press and I am a beginner.
Thankyou for posting an accessible form of engraving/ litho printmaking, I'm plannng to try this method very soon using my X cut (die cut machine) as the press. I just need to get some litho crayons first, although I was wondering if any oil based crayons would work, I guess oil pastels would be too soft but think I have some hard pastels somewhere that might be oily. I like experimenting anyway - so always worth a try.
Awesome. Great idea!
Adorei: Tingi filtro de café e fiz com os mesmos, ficaram lindas .Muito obrigada pela dica.
Sucesso.
Thanks for sharing this cool printing technique!
Clever! gonna try it! thanks
You left out so many details I can't imagine anyone making a print based on your instructions.
Some comments are by people who just do't get it..It's the process that makes it interesting especially if you know anything about lithographic printing. Good job...really enjoyed it..
Thanks for the briliant tutorial! I would like to know how many prints can u make out of the same foil matrix the maximum? I hope there can be at least 3 ;)
@Mark V I'm not sure what he used, but you can use about a 1/8" plexi sheet. You don't need a press. A baren can work just as well or even a flat wooden spoon. You can use heavy printers paper, rice paper, just about any fiberous paper will do. It needs to be damp to grab the ink. In this case the plate is etched smooth and the drawn area is raised. The ink sticks to the raised area and rubs off the smooth. Cheese cloth is good for this in place of the sponge.
Amazing I am going yo try this
I was wondering will the paint stay on. Should I cover it with something. The reason I ask is, I'm thinking of covering one of my art journals using this method. Thanks so much for sharing.
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If you need to speed up the etching try:
1. heating the vinegar;
2. swirl or agitate dish
3. Adding un-iodized salt and fresh hydrogen peroxide (hair salon version is strongest) This method is used by electronic hobbyist to etch copper printed circuit boards.
Very interesting, thankyou!
I wish to know how you made the drawing on the aluminum foil, please.
Me too. so confused right now. This process is entirely new to me, and I have no idea what he used to draw with, and more importantly why the vinegar etched the places he drew in.
@@eCitizen1 I think it was the lithography pencils he showed....I assume
Where did the image come from in the first place I must have missed that part duh!
George Barlow FWIW two years later, he drew it on the foil with a lithographic crayon that he mentioned among the supplies needed.
Yeah, actually showing how it's done matters less than the playing with a deck of cards while stuff happens part.
Me too x
Same thing he not mention and what type color he used? I agree w u he not reply u even???????
Do you dampen your paper before printing? Also what (specific) ink did you use?
When you were removing the litho crayon image from the plate, what was that underneath? Looks like a piece of acrylic but I'm not completely sure. Thank you in advance for your response!!
Armour Etching Cream - I would have designed, cut, applied the vinyl to the glass, and then applied and washed off the cream within this same time... Takes less products, costs less and without all of that vinegar it smells so much better too...
Wow, amazing!!! I used to do lithography, but not any more since I don't have stones and press. I think you should try offset printing plates instead of aluminium foil.
It's thicker than foil and it could be easier to work on it. Me and my friends did a lot of dry points on that offset plates. I should try this "kitchen lithography" also. Thank you for sharing your experience.
Hmmm...T-shirts. I'll give it a try.
Interesting video, thank you. I believe that the gum arabic contained in cola is important in the inking up process later, although the chemistry eludes me at the moment!
So…but…say if a person just happened to have said gum arabic..maybe they could experiment and try it in the water? Would you guess? Or the ink? Do you think? I am going to try and print my gbabys art. Im plate away from gelli printing. But I am all about my kitchen! 😂 hope you see this! Will any old office supply ink work? If someone had such ink…will this ever stop? These incessant kitchen crafts? I just spent yesterday trying to make acrylic paint..for the gelli…I got guash. I need a good resin. Anyway toodles! Hope to hear from your geeky self! ❤️
Very neat. Thanks!
Nice demo on how much work it really is
This was cool to see. Thanks!! 😊
I just think there are alot of parts missing for people who know nothing about what you are doing but it's a good video, comments help people to make more videos, thx
Thanks for this, tremendously interesting. I do a great deal of printmaking on ceramics which I exhibit extensively and currently working with aluminium fired on to my ceramics with glass. Complex process so always great to come across a video unexpectedly that takes one in a different direction......this is what creativity is about, this video may seem inconsequential to some numbskulls, but how does one invent anything without experimentation.....so congrats, simple humorous and I loved it and shall certainly be trying it. Plenty of people around that have presses!
"Plenty of people around that have presses" Surely sir you are jest, that or you live in a very special world that I nor no of my friends am privy to.
This dame does not jest sir.................there are art schools that, for a fee, would allow one to do a mornings printing, we also have art suppliers that hire their presses for the morning. I have two friends that have offered me the use of their presses for free, but I don't. Yes, I truly do live in a very special world but my guess is that if you are keen to learn printing and do some research, you will find that your world too is special ....otherwise just use a spoon!!! :-)
P.S. I use my ceramic clay roller, not ideal but I get the results.........maak 'n plan!
I did lithography and etching at University for an art credit, and still have the plates, but it never ocourred to me that I could DIY the process at home with alu foil and vinegar! That's totally cool! I was thinking a rolling pin with a lot of pressure woud work for the "press"...? Since the foil is so thin, I bet it sticks down and isnzt likely to slip around under the paper. Anyideas for DIYing the litho ink?! For the millenials who just want to scan and print, art existed before electricity and will exist after the last EMP. Study up now, cause when the SHTF your printer will be "off".
This looks like fun! I would have to use a kitchen rolling pin. If enough pressure was applied, I think it might work.
Someone suggested Pasta Machine! Probably worth a try: & I know of a Japanese Printmaker who makes etching plates, uses etching inks, but always does the actual print with a Burin --- this is a flat tool with a handle, more often used in lino-printing: I'm intrigued by this, as it seems more authentic....I saw this in a book entitled 'Printmakers Secrets' which I now seem to have been nudged into buying! I found the video, & (parts of!) the subsequent discussion a really helpful springboard! 🙏
I'm wondering how you got the photo on the foil first. Is there anything else I can use other than etching ink like a replacement? Thanks for this
OK, NOT trying to be NEGATIVE... If, someone says.. But, never done this before! Wish you showed how you did the image and what was in the o called dirty water and why? Love this idea ty!!
This is just brilliant, i ve done the heavy stone litho and it's just so cumbersome. My only problem with this is the press' how do one do DIY etching/litho press? Would the hydro bottle jack one provide enough pressure?
Very nice. I want to try this soon. I've watched several of these and like the use of white vinegar better. The foil idea is way less expensive than etching plates and definitely less annoying than those big litho stones!
Well watching this is time I’ll never get back!
There are several craft die, embossing machines that you may be able to use, that many paper crafters own.