Is Christianity biblical? If so which denomination? Everyone says they’re the only ones who have it right so how do we go about figuring out who actually does have accurate information about god and what that god wants?
One this is a terrible argument, for too many reasons to get into in a RUclips comment..but also, who's talking about Christianity here? Am i a Christian? Are you? Geez calm yourself and use your brain for a sec, I know the knee is jerking but seriously man
@@AshMaizwell first it wasn’t an argument, it was a question. But also, if you’re not a believer then why do you care about whether or not different sects are biblical? Seems like you’re the one jerking the knee and resorting to personal attacks after being asked a question
@@AshMaiz my replies keep getting deleted, but I’ll try again I guess. It wasn’t an argument, it was simply a question, I also didn’t didn’t say anything about you being a Christian nor is that relevant to the question I asked
this is a very very good video, im at 8:00 ,question, most rabbis ive heard keeps proclaiming they are the light to the world,and your statment was,"jews dont typically go out trying to convert anyone", how can they say they are the light to the world? just curious.
@@AshMaiz Jews used to actively proselytize at one point until it became too dangerous to do so (under penalty of death, starting from Roman Emperor Hadrian and reinforced under Xtian rule), and the rabbis began to discourage it. Prior to that, they absolutely did seek converts, particularly during the second temple period.
There is one additional mystery in modern times that has not been sufficiently investigated, which is the emergence within a mindset of Kabbalism from 1666 until the end of the 18th century, i.e. the emergence of the three pseudo-messianic sects adhering to the belief in Shabtai Zvi as the messiah (and developing under the mysterious existence of someone named Yakov Filosof and another person named Baruchia Russo/Osman Baba) to this very day in Turkey. These have been known as the Kapandjis, the Yakovlis, and the Konyosos.
@@dovygoodguy1296 I think the joking tone might have been missed int the comment. I was just joking around silly. Saying you missed the donmehs. My bad, I thought tone would be picked up.
Rabbi Moshe Sofer of Bratislav in the early 19th century claimed that most of the Zohar was not written by Rabbi Shimon Bar Yohai. However, it is too dense and extensive a book to have been written solely by any one person such as R. Moshe de Leon. How the chassidim could have given the same adherence to the Zohar or subsequent chassidic writings as is given to the Talmud is way beyond me. The honest truth is that all those teachings and practices, whatever their origin, is not for the everyday ordinary Jew. They simply make people crazy, eccentric and neurotic. It's enough that the ordinary Jew follows the lenient positions of the Jerusalem and/or Babylonian Talmud as the foundation of Jewish practice. I could write a whole book on it.
De Leon wife supposedly admitted it was a forgery by her husband. That being said it could have been compiled and stolen from contemporaries as well...who knows
@@AshMaiz Unfortunately, the final phrase is how I feel as well, "Who Knows".....Although I don't rely on anecdotal stories without documentary corroboration. The Zohar is simply too dense, too complicated, and too long to have been composed solely by a single person in a relatively short period of time.
@@AshMaiz Well, a scholarly contextual analysis of the Zohar would be extremely interesting regarding the philosophical, mystical and metaphorical expositions. Same thing for the writings ascribed to Arizal. Regardless of when they emerged and who developed them. Include in there teachings attributed to R. Moshe Cordovero and everyone else, including R. Yosef Caro who acquired the status of preeminent halachic authority simply because his was the first text printed by the printing press. Venice, along with the text of R. Moshe Isserles.
What is judaism is hard to answer because it changed ao many times,sometimes it was polytheistic,statues od yahweh and his wife were found in places of worship(israelite times),a lot of traditions from babylon and egypt were intruduced into the hebrew/jewish traditions like teffilin Todays judaism is completely different from the different forms it took. If youd bring king david to today times he wouldnt recognize anything about judaism
On long David I would agree. On Judaism being at times polytheistic...hard to say. Jews have been polytheistic in practices at times but never the religion of the tanakh if you wanna call that early Judaism
Youre both right, the people of the bible predate the current religion(s) they practice. In the bible its clear they evolved from local caananite pantheon to monolotry(yahwism), and it wasnt until the roman jewish wars that rabbinic judaism cones about.
@MBEG89 That is not clear at all, it's a scholarly hypothesis. A rhetorical assertion in its current form, as in, not clearly evident fact in any scripture or tradition you wish to cite. Go for it.
Before even watching 1. Yes they lie about everything even to their own people and take credit for everything 2. Kabbalah is older than Egypt and Babylon it gave people early mathematics and language as well as the spiritual aspect 3. Every system of mysticism or magic whatever you want to call it is identical to Kabbalah for the most part, because there is simply on one holy science through many different lenses. 4. Yes it is biblical, if you study Kabbalah and know the mysteries and ways to decipher the analogies and symbolism you’ll realize why all Kabbalists say only fools take the Torah/Old Testament literally. Even Jesus himself (messiah Ben Joseph) is simply a kabbalistic mystery to be discovered on your journey. But people practicing the holy science definitely wrote the books. I’m telling you this as a very high level Kabbalist directly initiated into the mysteries some would say I am a master (but a true master knows he is always a student no matter what) When I say these things people throw scriptures at me and cite everything they can, they will never understand because they take it literally. Lastly are Jews polytheistic, yes and no. They know there are other “gods” which are basically just the Angels now. They are below God as servants. The truth is that everything that exists is God so there can be no false “gods” YHWH is a code and divine blueprint all around us. Like his signature. But there are many names and emanations, could you say they are different “gods” yes definitely. To them they are just a part of the one ☝️. But IF THEY SEE OR HEAR YOU a non Jew talking about them or using divine names they will literally gaslight you and say your worshipping others gods. If you mention a planet like mars or Jupiter or Saturn they will gaslight you and say your worshipping other gods. In reality they have the mazzaroth the letters and numbers etc. that’s astrology divination and numerology they ALWAYS USE. They make sure the guys who butcher the animals have a lot of mars in their chart for example. They don’t want you to have what they have. But ignorant enough not to realize the Zoroastrians Hindus Buddhists Taoists Christian mystics are all doing the same damn thing. But they think they are “chosen”
@@AshMaiz he was the person to translate lesser key of solomon to english with aleister crowley, he is also the co-founder of the golden dawn. His works are great and i think his description and even key given in that book is quite interesting if you are interested in the history and modern definition of “kabbalah”
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@@My_Preacher I don't remove everything. I have mine removed too it's RUclips at random and everyone knows this so to accuse me instead o simply repostingf
'Modern' Jewish mystical practice arose as a result of the Moors conquest of the Iberian Peninsula. Islam has a long history of accepting tribes that practiced mysticism into their religion as it expanded. The Sabbeans, the Hashasheeen, the Dervishes are an example. No mention of Sabbatai Zevi? Half of all European/Eurasian Jews followed him in 1666. Wow.
@@GraniteChief369 shabtai zvi is an interesting topic especially concerning false Messiah. But one, I wanted to focus on the Zohar and that part of it and how it affected modern groups (shabtai zvi prob could come into play there as well) and two, it's a bigger topic to unpack, and I haven't brushed up enough recently but I do plan to get there....like you read my mind...or rather it's the obvious next step
I’ve found Merkavah and Hekhalot mysticism just far more interesting than anything I’ve encountered regarding Kabbalah, though Abulafia’s “version” is more appealing to me than the Kabbalah that is rooted in the Zohar.
It should be noted that the spiritual practitioners of Kabbalah don't often hold the same historical beliefs as scholars regarding what they are referring to when they say something like "The Kabbalah." A scholar will often mean the Jewish mystical developments between the 14th and 17th centuries, whereas practitioners might cite something going back to Adam and the patriarchs. Legendarily, (i.e. not historically or scholarly) the Kabbalah was the original reception of knowledge by Adam and/or the patriarchs that was orally transmitted from primordial times to Sinai where it was entrusted with Moses. This "original knowledge," "de'ah" or "gnosis," depending on your cultural preference, is what underpinned every esoteric tradition and subsequent religious tradition from time immemorial. Alphabets, writing, numbers, mathematics, astronomy, mysticism, and derivative religious traditions, etc. Legendarily, the Hebrews claimed to be the conduit through which this knowledge was transmitted. As God charged them at Sinai with being a nation of priests and a light to the nations, it was they who were meant to be the keepers and disseminators of this original wisdom. According to some sources, likely legendary, various Greek and other philosophers learned with the Hebrews/Proto-Jews. You can find some of these stories on Mi Yodea and elsewhere. Abraham is said to be the first Chaldean Oracle, from Ur, and Hebrew, as he was called "HaIvri." It's said that he reinstated the monotheism (and covenant, third after Noah) of Adam. This Adamic covenant was prior to the advent of the polytheism that resulted from the "Calling in the names of God" that was started by Enosh and his generation (lasting until the generation of the dispersion/tower and beyond). Abraham is said to have gone to Egypt and taught them many mysteries that contributed to their growth and culture as one of the great empires of history. Some legendary adherents will point to the changing of Egyptian religious tradition to be more monotheist (e.g. Aten/Amarna heresy) as an example of this, regardless of the historical dates and timelines. The Patriarchs, Adam, Cain, Able, Seth, Abraham, Enoch, Joseph, Moses, et al. get corresponded with various legendary and mythological figures in the ancient world. These include Esdras, Metatron, Thoth/Theuth/, Osiris/Serapis, Horus, Set/h, Hermes, Hammurabi, etc. Later, Joseph would go back to Egypt and Moses would take the Hebrews out to Sinai where they made an additional covenant and solidified the Jewish people along with the Law/Torah. The legendary adherents/practitioners of the kabbalistic traditions don't care so much about the historical and scholarly opinions on "The Kabbalah" as they are seeking to forge an understanding of the spiritual archetypes that underpin all these legendary and mythological figures, as they believe they incarnate or influence the world repetitiously, even until this day, each being, ultimately, influences of God's attributes/middos/sephiros which He uses to create, maintain, and interact/relate with His world.
I'm sorry I don't have time to write out and address all of this in comments. I think it's important that you make that distinction that the kabbalists etc and others do not accept the historical context per se.
As I understand it, modern scholarly consensus acknowledges some similarities between kabbalah and gnosticism, but that doesnt mean they were influenced by it. Neoplatonism, sure. I would say gnosticism was influenced by platonism, and that is where scholars agree. I would disagree that the aeons are similar to the sefirot, and I don’t think it would be accurate to say kabbalah borrowed from the gnostics. Emanations from platonism? Sure. But any conceptual “borrowing” does not negate the cosmological map that kabbalists were attempting to construct based on what they thought God’s nature and aspects were, and how he interacted with humanity.
@@FeastofChamps sure I can see that. Still based on a forgery with no real biblical basis. So disagreement based on whether or not it's causation or correlation is fallacy of single flaw. Appreciate the time for the comment let me know what you think of my response
@@AshMaiz While I do think Moses de Leon wrote all of it, I don't think it arose from thin air either. He was definitely reading texts from earlier traditions (Jewish, Greek, Persian, etc.) that he syncretized into a coherent system. To me it doesn't matter if Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai wrote it or not. What I find useful is this sort of cultural syncretism that we find in other traditions like Hermeticism. Judaism was open minded enough to adopt these esoteric ideas, even if some of it was pulled from other cultures (as the Babylonian Talmud does too), and apply them to their own foundational Torah framework. Without cultural syncretism, it may have been difficult to keep the Torah alive and vibrant within Jewish communities reeling from exile and disillusionment. Whether concepts like "the spark" are explicitly stated in the Torah or not, Jews (and even Christians I've spoken to) seem able to reconcile it with biblical statements like "man is created in the image of God". If there are ideas that contradict Torah law, then of course, that would be a problem. But if you see Torah as infinite, then the Zohar simply adds new dimensions of interpretive depth to the text.
If I were to come and say that my grandfather is the Messiah, maybe you would indeed consider institutionalizing me, but you wouldn’t think I’m a Christian, God forbid. It’s the same with Chabad. There are a few thousand people there who are a bit eccentric or at least deeply devoted, but no one is Christian, God forbid. And when they say he is supposedly alive, they mean that he is alive in the same way that any deceased person is alive in the World to Come. After a person passes away, they continue to live above - that’s all.
I get what you're saying but they say he is literally still alive and even currently a piece of God unclothed in a physical body. If that's ok to say then maybe Christians are legitimate Jews?
@AshMaiz It's hard to believe that a big group really, truly thinks this way. And if they do, it's hard to believe they are sane. There’s a Chabad Messianic synagogue near me, and I sometimes pray there. When you talk to them and dig into the topic, you find they aren’t really serious about it. But you have to ask a lot of questions. At first, they’ll tell you they do believe it. I wrote a comment on your video about Rabbi Manis Friedman and shared a Jewish source to support my point. I’d really appreciate your reply, thanks
Kabbalah literally means receiving so all that has been received in tradition through the ages through all our ancestors is under the definition of Kabbalah
@@Yosaif-Israel it means receiving but that not the word means in this context. That's like when people say "Arabs are semites too so they can't be any semitic" but that's not what it means I'm thi context. Interested to hear your thoughts on the content of the video though. What about the Zohar being a forgery?
@ that’s exactly what he means. You’re just trying to give it a different context Kabbalah is not limited just to the Zora and the teachings of Rabbi Luria.
@ in order to have a true access to the soul of Adam, you have to practice Torah, so you don’t understand the Kabbalah, or the manifestation of Adams soul and its purpose. No wonder you try to compare us to Nazis, which is what Nazis do.
@Yosaif-Israel right I said that in the video...it is a blanket term for Jewish mysticism as used today, but specifically also refers to the zoharisric and lurianic kabbalah
I would also like to see you make a video investigating the mysterious origins of what came to be called Chassidism based fundamentally on the teachings of rabbis that were not widely disseminated until after the beginning of the 19th century based on the teachings of an enigmatic man who wrote nothing of his own, named R. Yisrael Baal Shem Tov. Truly enigmatic. Followed by some teachings of the Maggid of Mezritch and the Toldot Yosef and then rooted heavily anecdotally on the Shivchei Habesht, disseminated by the early Chabad movement, long before the existence of Menachem Mendel Schneerson. What exactly was the method and basis of teachings that led to very disparate and very different teachings found in the texts of the Noam Elimelech, Kedushat Levi, Likkutei Moharan, Tanya and Toldot Yaakov Yosef?? You can ask a hundred different chassidic scholars and none will be able to provide a definitive answer of what exactly was disseminated by R. Yisrael between 1740 and around 1760 and didn't see publication before the Toldot Yaakov Yosef until the 1790s at the earliest. One mystery wrapped inside another. Finally there are the mysteries of the emergence of the teachings of Breslov. That vast literature produced by R. Nathan Sternhartz of Nemirov following publication of Part I of Likkutei Moharan, and the Stories, which occurred before 1810. Note that there exists NOT A SINGLE tradition of any literature whatsoever competing with that produced by R. Nathan in the name of the teachings originating with Rabbi Nachman himself. Nothing, anywhere. Only vague hints exist that the essential teachings of R. Nachman were found in whatever was produced by R. Nathan between 1810 and 1845. This outlook did not exist following the deaths of either R. Isaac Luria, the Baal Shem Tov or the Maggid of Mezritch, all of which had various and competing strains..
@@dovygoodguy1296 on history and timeline I'm not very clear especially with so many groups on ideology and philosophy and how it can be tied back to tanakh (or not) would be more my line of questioning
@@dovygoodguy1296 because my main line of questioning is, is it authentic to Tanakh? Is it authentic to Judaism yes or no and if not, is it a net positive? Yes or no?.
The writings of R. Chaim Vital reflecting the teachings of R. Isaac Luria only became widespread after R. Chaim Vital's writings were disseminated by his son, R. Shmuel Vital. Other disciples of R. Isaac were R. Yisrael Soreg and others.I just don't know why the focus of kabbalah always focuses on the followers of Menachem Mendel Schneersohn and the competing subsects of that particular group. This video is somewhat disappointing because it confuses the audience.
I mean lutianic Kabbalah draws heavily from zoharistic Kabbalah. And none of it has a very strong foundation in Tanakh. So I'd say the point is still relevant even without specifying so clearly the differences. That being said, the main focus here was on the Zohar and the influence it's had in certain negative ways. Again, I also stress that I do think that Kabbalah as a concept has been a net positive regardless
Please let none of yourselves kid yourself into thinking you understand kabbalah. You all first need to go to jewish kindergarten. We will start there.
I mean I wasn't spacing out when I learned masechet avodah zarah ...but again youre just being a rude piece of garbage because you having nothing else to stand on...and you use "Tactics" to get attention...right?
First of all the Zohar was not given to rabbi shimon bar yochai. I don't know where you got that from. The Zohar was written by rabbi shimon bar yochai by information that was given from him by eliyahu hanavi as well as many other tzaddikim who came down and told him this information. As well as through maggidim etc. This that you say that it's not biblical there is no makor for what you are saying. Wdym it's not biblical? That it doesn't say in the text the same actual words? It also doesn't say god created darkness. Wdym it's not biblical. It's learnt out. And you realize your trying to debunk huge tzaddikim through some proofs that not all kabballists had the exact way of learning. There are many ways of learning kabbalah.
Again, you're arguing with things that I didn't say. And again, The fact that you claim it was rashbi who wrote it with knowledge from eliyahu hanavi does not make it so. If I come out with a book and I tell you that Eliyahu hanavi spoke to me and that's why I wrote the book. You wouldn't believe me right? You would ask for evidence? And if I like Moses de Leon claimed I found a book from Rabbi shimon bar yochai, but evidence showed that it was written in the 21st century. You would know I was lying, right??
@AshMaiz ok. So the difference is rashbi was a giant in Torah even before he wrote the Zohar. Also many stuff it says in Zohar proves that he wrote it. As for it being true, it was written by a Torah giant unlike which were in centuries as well with his son on his side... And obviously is on the Torah. As for him seeing maggidim ad eliyahu hanavi I think we agree that there's a difference if he said it then if a random shmo siad. Also huge tzaddikim then it wasn't extremely unordiany for them to speak with maggidim and neshmos of tzaddikim. It's all you yetzer hara.
Yes that's my point the Zohar can't be the proof of its own legitimacy. If exterior evidence shows its claims to be false, for example containing anachronisms, or for example testimony from the authors wife, or linguistic differences that depart wildly from the supposed authors writing style, than it is clearly a forgery and inauthentic
Most of this seems very confused and superficially connected. -We have Moses deleon’s Kabbalah writings and they are not consistent with various things written in the Zohar - there are many Kabbalah works aside from the Zohar. One cannot accurately say that Kabbalah is an invention merely by having issues with the Zohar. That’s a very illogical argument. Kabbalah concepts are quoted even in the geonic period, and mystical concepts and actions are mentioned in the Talmud. -Rambam’s rejection of Kabbalah is not at all agreed upon. Many even argue the sources of some of his opinions can only be found in the Zohar. One well known rabbi mentions that Rambam mentions what one should do with the shoe during the chalitza ceremony. The Rambam says it seems to him that one should do xyz with the shoe. Nobody talks about it, and yet in the Zohar this is exactly what it says to do with the shoe and explains in detail why. - people even not with the influence of Kabbalah like the followers of David Alroy also claimed he would come back from The dead. One messianic group the Rambam mentions says that they believed their messiah was hidden. This is just the intellectual landscape of options available to a person after he claims to be the messiah and dies. Either he will come back or he is hidden. U don’t need mysticism for that - it was not “rejected completely” at first. Not accurate. - Chabad is not a “blend” of other ideas. Chabad will say they are relying on Jewish ideas. This is a profound misunderstanding of the issue. Lhavdil Shabtai tzvi and his follwers did not think they were borrowing other ideas of the messiah from others - the rebbe passed in 1994 not 1993 - u said abulafia perhaps just wanted to convert to Christianity. Such an insane and outrageous statement with no evidence at all. Is that all it takes to propose a theory?
@@Chosidchosid770 I appreciate the respectful disagreement (see my latest video on that lol I mention how I live when ppl disagree respectfully I prefer it to ppl agreeing, because then I learn something) As for the part about Moses deleon's writings being different from the Zohar, if I was known for writing a certain style and then I was trying to forge a document as if somebody else wrote it. I would make it considerably different than what I wrote. We have the story of his wife being interviewed by another capitalist at the time and admitting that he wrote it. We also see anachronistic elements that could not possibly place it in the 2nd century. Unfortunately, my view on this is that even if it was written by shimon bar yochai that wouldn't validate the Zohar that would invalidate shimon Bar yochai so I'm not sure how that helps. And the reason I believe that is from the text itself to me and too many others. It does seem to conflict with Tanakh. To another point, there are many crazy people that claim crazy things like being Messiahs and raising from the dead who do not believe in the Zohar that does not invalidate the claim that the Zohar can inspire that in people. All this being said, I do say towards the end of the video that I do think Kabbalah is a net positive for the Jewish community. I don't believe there's anything wrong with Kabbalah. I don't believe that it's necessarily heretical if you view it as a inspiration for meditation and to contemplate God and not as a literal approach to God. And then as far as believing that the Rebecca is mashiach, for example, I don't see any particular problem with that either. The only issue I see with that is that if you claim those things that are said about the Reba, you have to accept Christians as legitimate members of the covenant because their claims are not different in the most extreme way, to say that the rabbit is חלק אלו ה ממש מלובש בגוף גשמי you would have to accept Christians believing in the covenant with God of Israel and believing in a man as the Messiah who's partially Divine in some way.
@@Chosidchosid770 and then as far as the rambam and his disagreements with early kabalists. There are disputes on his opinions on it. However, the very fact that his philosophy is wildly disagree with anything that mimics or reflects kabbalistic ideas. I think that would be evidence enough that those claims are at least partially true.
@@Chosidchosid770 and then as far as kabbalistic schools different than the Zohar, yes, I did specify there are earlier kabalists than the Zohar. And there are later kabalists and completely different schools of thought. That's why Kabbalah is a over-encompassing term for all Jewish mysticism as we know it today. Any kind of divine inspired mysticism would be called Kabbalah and Judaism, whether a misnomer or not. Now personally I have quite an affinity for the Tanya. Whether I agree with everything in the tanya or not is a different issue. But that being said I do respect the Tanya a lot. I do learn Tanya, I did growing up and I still do, in fact my great-great-great-great-grandfather I'm not sure how many generations back it would count as was a student of the alter rebbe.
@ - I would think, in straightforward logic that if someone forges a document, like Joseph smith and the Book of Mormon, he has something to be gained. If he desires to be seen as a prophet then he has gained something, however if he is not taking any credit for it then the only thing left to be gained is that your ideas live on forever should it be accepted. Since there are disagreements on important issues between the Zohar and Moshe deleon a Straight forward conclusion is that he did not write it. U can attempt to keep it going saying we don’t have to know the reason and he can make differences so people don’t trace it back to him, but u can do that with anything. We can make up stories for anything. - I think your mindset is too focused on trying to show similarity and ignore differences that u aren’t realizing why kabbalistic concepts regarding the rebbe are not on par with Christianity. U are connecting these cases superficially and not plumbing the depths of the doctrine.
The Zohar's major opponent Elijah Delmedigo refers to the Zohar as having existed for "only" 300 years. Even he agrees that it was extant before the time of R' Moses De Leon.
One should be careful not to oversimplify this subject, and try to distinguish between Kabbalah as "midrashic" interpretation, the Zohar itself, and teachings ATTRIBUTED to R. Isaac Luria through the teachings mainly of R. Chaim VItal, and then the very non-abstract teachings of the followers of the Baal Shem Tov in the books published in the early 19th century. But please don't mix all these things up, or throw in Avraham Abulafia or even Shabtai Zevi. The listeners will just get hopelessly confused.
@@dovygoodguy1296 ok. I can accept The criticism there that maybe this is confusing too many issues together when I say Kabbalah. I did specify that in general that is a generic term used in modern Judaism today to refer to Jewish mysticism and that's why I wanted to clarify that what I was speaking about mostly was the Zohar and it's influence. That being said, you are 100% right. It is evident that I assumed too much onn behalf of some of the people watching that they might understand that these are separate issues that are connected but not the same. Also, some people are just clearly nuts and get really really upset when you criticize any of these above topics.
@ Your last point I agree with completely. However, any analysis even of the Zohar (not to mention Sefer Hayetsira, Merkava, and the other works) have some kind of ancient roots that are sometimes hinted at in the Talmud but which the Talmudic sages considered not directly relevant to day-to-day life of Torah laws elaborated on in the Mishnah. What irks me the most are those who ascribe equivalent authority to the Zohar which appeared in the possession of a single man, whatever the origins, hundreds of years after the Talmud was completed. It is not even of the same authority as the Midrashim.
@@orangemanbad It's hard to call it new agey cuz a lot of it does stem from very early ideas. A lot of it developed 7th through 11th centuries, but what we call Kabbalah today is very heavily based on the 13th century writings in the Zohar and the 16th century works of Isaac luria later popularized by the Hasidic movements in the 18th centuries at 19th centuries
Revelation is the unveiling of the Kabbalah Tree of Life. The marriage of the Lamb and God is the completion of a non-dual relationship between the masculine and feminine. At the same time, the carnal reality is taken up with them. Matter becomes the property of God alone minus the terribleness of the “devil”. The temple is the completion of the Kabbalah diagram. So yes, the Bible is completely entwined with it.
Kabbalistic prayers more than often open with these words: לשם יחוד קודשא בריך הוא ושכינתיה (יאהדונהי) בדחילו ורחימו (יאההויהה) ורחימו ודחילו (איההיוהה) "L'Shem yichud HaKadosh BaruchHu (HKB"H) u'Shekinteh, bidchilu urchimu, urchimu bidchilu..." "To unify the Holy One Blessed is He and His Shekinah, in awe and love and love and awe..." And the purpose of these acts of theurgy (mitzvos and tefilos) is to elevate the physical world and to bring God down to dwell in the lower worlds/making a home for God. In that context, the revelation of Kabbalah is indeed the divine marriage/unification (Greek Heiros Gamos) or what you call the "completion of a non-dual relationship between masculine (HKB"H) and feminine (u'Shekinteh)." This world is a garden, a temple, the body of God, as you are a garden, a temple, a body of God, and yes, it's all derived from the Bible/Torah. Every letter, every word, every utterance, it's all One. And I suppose @AshMaiz is a flying peanut.
@ayinayin3652 of Kabbalah is authentic to the Bible than yes I am a flying peanut... Just like you seem to be able to read kabala into the tanakh, So to do Christians... Why is there way any less valid than your way? You talk about a multiplicity in God that is really unified as one. They talk about a multiplicity in God that is unified and really one....why is it idolatry?
@ The Bible/Torah is the written tradition that was supposedly obtained at HarSinai. Kabbalah can refer to either generally anything that was received from God, including this written aspect of Torah, or more specifically the oral transmission, either received at Sinai and/or passed down from the patriarchs. Alternatively, according to the legendary adherent practitioners, the original transmission was to Adam or further alternatively, whatever ancient civilizations that developed prior to Abraham, and these became understood through different cultural lenses. So no, I'm not necessarily saying that Kabbalah as understood by scholars is authentic EXCLUSIVELY to the bible/Written Torah as it could be construed as any received or oral tradition stemming from some older tradition or perhaps developments from some shared perennial human experience/prisca theologia. It was shared and spread all around and influenced the world, as intended. I've not said anything about my way, one way, or idolatry. And yes, there are plenty of parallels that can be made between animism, polytheism, kabbalah, and Christianity/Edom. I don't object to them or any other way or people, in so far that things stay civil and don't become tribal/violent.
@@elaltocompaniaanonima8286 of I was doing a full history of kabbalh sure but that wasn't the point of the video. Maybe if I had an hour or two I could get more into it but that isn't what I'm getting at here right now
@@elaltocompaniaanonima8286 didn't particularly feel it was relevant to the point I was making , Yes, obviously there was obviously Islamic influence. Can you explain to me though why it has to be ignorance or ill will or could it be just my selective choice in what I felt was important for the video or not?
Definitely not. Kabbalah is the surviving tradition of the Chaldean mystics, much older than Judaism. At least this is what the hermetic schools teach. As you mentioned, Kabbalah resembles neo-platonism. A very far cry from Judiasm. Everything ive seen on Jewish Kabbalah, Chabad Lubavitch etc, appears like fundamentalism with no mysticism at all. But I guess I wouldn’t know because I’m not part of gods chosen people. 😂
@@jsea56 chabad has its rootsnin mysticism but modern chabad is all findementalism. It funny they say pseudo mystical things as legalistic dogma which is very odd. Also, not a good representation of traditional Orthodox Judaism even though on the ritualistic side they are devout on theology and doctrine they are worlds apart...hence the emergnce of people like rabbi manis Friedman
The spiritual kabbalist all live in Israel, mainly in Tzefat and Jerusalem And they dont post on the Internet Spiritual Kabbala is still very much a thing within judaism and its believed that you can only go so far from learning books , and the "real kabbala" can only be received in sleep after long and intense purification of the nefesh and than the soul can harvest more of the divine light , power of life or what ever you wanna call it
Rev 3:9: "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."
I get this feeling the ppl that are obsessed with calling all Jews synagogue of Satan are really a bit satanic themselves or at least missed the point of the gospel.
John 8:44: "All of you are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father all of you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
@ hi! Very easy to research if my claim is true. ChatGPT each chapter and ask for possible earlier sources of inspiration or similar stories from the region (Babylonia and Egypt). Just some of the examples: epic of Gilgamesh, Egyptian book of the dead, ark of the covenant = ark of the contract... And many more. Hope you have a great day.
Interesting, how someone who knows NOTHING WHATSOEVER about kabalah can talk so kuch about it. I will let you in on a real secret... You can't even begin to understand TRUE kabbala until you have mastered the Hebrew Bible as well has the Talmudic and Midrashic explanations. I know, because I have tried and failed, because I have not yet mastered the prerequisite coursework.
I am posting my comment to correct several false and misleading claims you have made regarding key aspects of Jewish thought and history. Your statements are not only inaccurate but appear deliberately constructed to mislead your audience. This level of intellectual dishonesty is unacceptable, and I will not allow these distortions to go unchallenged. 1.Maimonides and Kabbalah Your claim that Maimonides "rejected Kabbalah" is entirely baseless. Maimonides (1138-1204) lived before the formal development of Kabbalah as a structured mystical tradition, particularly the Zohar, which emerged in the 13th century. Suggesting that he rejected something that did not exist in his time is not just inaccurate-it’s outright deceptive. While his rationalist philosophy differs from the mystical worldview of later Kabbalah, attributing a rejection of something outside his historical context is intellectually dishonest. 2.Moses de León and the Zohar You assert that Moses de León was excommunicated and accused of forgery. This is a blatant lie. There is no historical record of Moses de León being excommunicated by his contemporaries, nor was he accused of forgery during his lifetime. While some skepticism about the authorship of the Zohar arose after his death, your claim misrepresents the reality of his reception among mystical circles. The Zohar was embraced during his lifetime, and its attribution to Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai gave it significant legitimacy. You are twisting historical facts to fit your narrative, and that is unacceptable. 3.Rabbi Schneerson and Chabad Messianism Your portrayal of Chabad’s belief in Rabbi Schneerson as the Messiah is misleading and inflammatory. While it is true that many Chabad followers hoped he could be the Messiah during his lifetime, this belief has largely diminished since his passing in 1994. Today, only a vocal minority still actively promote this idea, while the majority focus on his teachings and leadership. Your attempt to paint the entire Chabad movement as messianic extremists is a gross distortion and reflects either ignorance or a deliberate attempt to misrepresent their community. Your false claims are not harmless-they misinform your audience and discredit honest dialogue about Jewish history and thought. If you intend to engage in serious discussion on these matters, you must base your arguments on facts, not fabrications. I strongly urge you to retract these falsehoods and commit to intellectual honesty in the future.I do not know where you coming from, if you are a christian or what ever. Before you make false claims about a religion, which obviously you do not beling tell us what you believe in,so I can make e the appraoch to criticise your beliefs.Go on I will wait....
1. I never said my maimonides rejected the Zohar I said he rejected the pre Zohar Kabbalah of the neoplatonist. 2. I never said Moses de Leon was excommunicated. I said I'm not sure, but I know that the Zohar was rejected by the rabbanim of the time 3. And as for chabad and the Messianic movement around the rebbe. Don't tell me that my claims are false. I grew up chabad. I know that they're not. If chabad doesn't want people making inflammatory statements, they shouldn't do inflammatory things.
And as for your claims about what I must do in the future know I must not do anything. You must stay in your lane and not tell people what they must do, especially when they're right and you're wrong. You want to defend false ideologies that's your prerogative go make a video
@@AshMaiz IAM not defending any ideology. I corrected you by using facts.You ,instead ,used objections based on feelings and/ or your hate towards Judaism ! I debunked your false claims and lies with facts / truth and I cornered you and I showed you where your place really is ! Sit down !
@torahsoldier23 there was no fact there you misconstrued what I said and tried to fight a straw man. No, it's not based on feeling it's based on fact, what you're doing is based on feeling you're butt hurt about the fact that I criticize things that you identify with. I have no hatred towards Judaism at all. you're also mischaracterizing what I'm saying and doing. I was born and raised Jewish, still am jewish of course, love many aspects of the Jewish community. Love the land of Israel, and now you're just making defamatory statements without no knowledge about anything to do with my life. Any one that uses the phrase sit down at the end of an argument is pretty cringy already eapecially when somebody just told you that you strawmanned an argument so that you could have a win in your own mind. So once again no you didn't correct me with any fact you used other facts to correct something I didn't say. And then made assertions about my background. My beliefs that you know nothing about. Why don't you make a video about it. See how it goes? And why tell me to recant things I didn't say if you won't recant errors you did say? Recant now!!!! 🤣
Also, did you know all these figures, thinkers, sages, and kabbalaist that you mentioned rose out of a time that spain was ruled by Islam/moors... Im jewish born in morrocco raised in Canada and only learned about this piece of incredible history a few years ago. I'm ashamed to say... Re: chabad that i WAS with for 40+ years, ya they push quantum physics, the new science...Spinoza's god. ruclips.net/video/7tUhyckWBMA/видео.htmlsi=ADqs-1H_SmYYx_7c
@@almo1956 right!! And interesting that maimonides who very well understood the Muslim/Arab influence rejected the early kabbalists. And rejected neoplatonism.
@AshMaiz I like your channel, good stuff. The Ai brought it to me.. funny you should bring that up, I could never figure out why the last chabad house I used to attend had a painting of napoleon... I'm very clear on that now... Can you do a video on the b'nia brith? Or have you done one on them already?
Very easy way out of having to explain why you're a narcissistic cult member ? You know, and everyone who disagrees is stupid right? But you don't have to explain why? Classic
@AshMaiz that's a bit presumptuous but you get a pass cause you're a mensch. My point is that a historical overview of a mystical tradition doesn't illuminate what the mystical effects are on either an individual or the world at large. Simply, you may know some history but I doubt you have any knowledge of the actual experience and yet you feel justified in disparaging it.
@AshMaiz Thats a bit presumptuous but you get a pass cause you're a mensch. My point is: knowing the history of a mystical tradition doesn’t gives one the experience of that tradition. You mistake Binah with Daat. Chabad might be able to help you with that.
@@amethyst4990 yes Wikipedia that's all...didn't at aaaalll grownup on the Jewish community and learn as part of my upbringing and culture. Try again fool
My dear RUclipsr threre is only one truth. There is only one torah that dosent and will never change. And everything that comes from torah is true including kabbalah which you probably only know tge meanjng of the actual word. And everything that us not from torah is false. Its that simple
@@AshMaiz wow you truly know nothing I don't even know where to start. It's like I walked in to such a messy room and I don't know what I should start cleaning first.
Is Christianity biblical? If so which denomination? Everyone says they’re the only ones who have it right so how do we go about figuring out who actually does have accurate information about god and what that god wants?
One this is a terrible argument, for too many reasons to get into in a RUclips comment..but also, who's talking about Christianity here? Am i a Christian? Are you?
Geez calm yourself and use your brain for a sec, I know the knee is jerking but seriously man
@@elilane8627 seriously your response makes me want to convert to Christianity...
@@AshMaizwell first it wasn’t an argument, it was a question. But also, if you’re not a believer then why do you care about whether or not different sects are biblical? Seems like you’re the one jerking the knee and resorting to personal attacks after being asked a question
@@AshMaiz my replies keep getting deleted, but I’ll try again I guess. It wasn’t an argument, it was simply a question, I also didn’t didn’t say anything about you being a Christian nor is that relevant to the question I asked
@@elilane8627 I don't delete any replies RUclips has weird stuff like that all the time. Sorry bout that.
this is a very very good video, im at 8:00 ,question, most rabbis ive heard keeps proclaiming they are the light to the world,and your statment was,"jews dont typically go out trying to convert anyone", how can they say they are the light to the world? just curious.
"infiltrated" we have that very same issue , your not alone on that
The idea is by example you would try and be a light to the nations and show how to live a life in accordance with the one true god
Not forced conversion or proselytizing
@@AshMaiz Jews used to actively proselytize at one point until it became too dangerous to do so (under penalty of death, starting from Roman Emperor Hadrian and reinforced under Xtian rule), and the rabbis began to discourage it. Prior to that, they absolutely did seek converts, particularly during the second temple period.
@@FeastofChampsfalse
There is one additional mystery in modern times that has not been sufficiently investigated, which is the emergence within a mindset of Kabbalism from 1666 until the end of the 18th century, i.e. the emergence of the three pseudo-messianic sects adhering to the belief in Shabtai Zvi as the messiah (and developing under the mysterious existence of someone named Yakov Filosof and another person named Baruchia Russo/Osman Baba) to this very day in Turkey. These have been known as the Kapandjis, the Yakovlis, and the Konyosos.
You missed some donmehs in there😆
@@AshMaiz Which ones?
@@dovygoodguy1296 sabateans left in turkey called donmehs
@ That's why I mentioned the Kapandji, Yakovli and Konyosos. They all still exist, some in great "hiding" and other assimilated.
@@dovygoodguy1296 I think the joking tone might have been missed int the comment. I was just joking around silly. Saying you missed the donmehs. My bad, I thought tone would be picked up.
Rabbi Moshe Sofer of Bratislav in the early 19th century claimed that most of the Zohar was not written by Rabbi Shimon Bar Yohai. However, it is too dense and extensive a book to have been written solely by any one person such as R. Moshe de Leon. How the chassidim could have given the same adherence to the Zohar or subsequent chassidic writings as is given to the Talmud is way beyond me. The honest truth is that all those teachings and practices, whatever their origin, is not for the everyday ordinary Jew. They simply make people crazy, eccentric and neurotic. It's enough that the ordinary Jew follows the lenient positions of the Jerusalem and/or Babylonian Talmud as the foundation of Jewish practice. I could write a whole book on it.
De Leon wife supposedly admitted it was a forgery by her husband. That being said it could have been compiled and stolen from contemporaries as well...who knows
@@AshMaiz Unfortunately, the final phrase is how I feel as well, "Who Knows".....Although I don't rely on anecdotal stories without documentary corroboration. The Zohar is simply too dense, too complicated, and too long to have been composed solely by a single person in a relatively short period of time.
@@dovygoodguy1296 which would definitely invalidate it as authentic to Moshe de Leon or rashbi e. So the claim is false which means I can dismiss it.
@@AshMaiz Well, a scholarly contextual analysis of the Zohar would be extremely interesting regarding the philosophical, mystical and metaphorical expositions. Same thing for the writings ascribed to Arizal. Regardless of when they emerged and who developed them. Include in there teachings attributed to R. Moshe Cordovero and everyone else, including R. Yosef Caro who acquired the status of preeminent halachic authority simply because his was the first text printed by the printing press. Venice, along with the text of R. Moshe Isserles.
What is judaism is hard to answer because it changed ao many times,sometimes it was polytheistic,statues od yahweh and his wife were found in places of worship(israelite times),a lot of traditions from babylon and egypt were intruduced into the hebrew/jewish traditions like teffilin
Todays judaism is completely different from the different forms it took.
If youd bring king david to today times he wouldnt recognize anything about judaism
On long David I would agree. On Judaism being at times polytheistic...hard to say. Jews have been polytheistic in practices at times but never the religion of the tanakh if you wanna call that early Judaism
Youre both right, the people of the bible predate the current religion(s) they practice. In the bible its clear they evolved from local caananite pantheon to monolotry(yahwism), and it wasnt until the roman jewish wars that rabbinic judaism cones about.
@MBEG89 That is not clear at all, it's a scholarly hypothesis. A rhetorical assertion in its current form, as in, not clearly evident fact in any scripture or tradition you wish to cite. Go for it.
@@xravenx24fe the alternative is the biblical history which 100 percent didnt happen.
@@MBEG89 Thanks for presenting me with the laziest, weakest false dilemma ever. Do you even understand what I'm saying?
it's almost like judaism is seeking reformation... coming soon
Maybe some kind of "new covenant"...????
@ maybe you’re on to something 🤔🩴
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Before even watching
1. Yes they lie about everything even to their own people and take credit for everything
2. Kabbalah is older than Egypt and Babylon it gave people early mathematics and language as well as the spiritual aspect
3. Every system of mysticism or magic whatever you want to call it is identical to Kabbalah for the most part, because there is simply on one holy science through many different lenses.
4. Yes it is biblical, if you study Kabbalah and know the mysteries and ways to decipher the analogies and symbolism you’ll realize why all Kabbalists say only fools take the Torah/Old Testament literally. Even Jesus himself (messiah Ben Joseph) is simply a kabbalistic mystery to be discovered on your journey. But people practicing the holy science definitely wrote the books.
I’m telling you this as a very high level Kabbalist directly initiated into the mysteries some would say I am a master (but a true master knows he is always a student no matter what)
When I say these things people throw scriptures at me and cite everything they can, they will never understand because they take it literally.
Lastly are Jews polytheistic, yes and no. They know there are other “gods” which are basically just the Angels now. They are below God as servants. The truth is that everything that exists is God so there can be no false “gods”
YHWH is a code and divine blueprint all around us. Like his signature. But there are many names and emanations, could you say they are different “gods” yes definitely. To them they are just a part of the one ☝️.
But IF THEY SEE OR HEAR YOU a non Jew talking about them or using divine names they will literally gaslight you and say your worshipping others gods.
If you mention a planet like mars or Jupiter or Saturn they will gaslight you and say your worshipping other gods.
In reality they have the mazzaroth the letters and numbers etc. that’s astrology divination and numerology they ALWAYS USE.
They make sure the guys who butcher the animals have a lot of mars in their chart for example.
They don’t want you to have what they have. But ignorant enough not to realize the Zoroastrians Hindus Buddhists Taoists Christian mystics are all doing the same damn thing. But they think they are “chosen”
@@tmmmedia731 when you say "they" lie....who do you mean?
@@tmmmedia731 when you say mazaroth...did you mean mazalot???
@@AshMaizhave you read macgregor mathers kabbalah unveiled
@@porcelain714 no I haven't
@@AshMaiz he was the person to translate lesser key of solomon to english with aleister crowley, he is also the co-founder of the golden dawn. His works are great and i think his description and even key given in that book is quite interesting if you are interested in the history and modern definition of “kabbalah”
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Polish 🇵🇱 German 🇩🇪 Ukrainian 🇺🇦 descent (YiddishHebrew) Ashkanazis with a very insignificant percentage of Levantine DNA claim to be Biblical Israelites is the only relevant question to acknowledge.
@@My_Preacher that doesn't seem like you know how genetics and descent work....
Also relevance,?
@AshMaiz Please 🙏🏻 Enlighten us,mere Talks won't Increase Genetics of Ashkanazim over Locals,that's y World z watching Live Extermination.
Isn't it ❓️
I myself had this Corrupt view earlier,NtinYahoo opened our Eyes
@@AshMaiz But that certainly do suggest that it so poor & cheat of to Remove my Reply instead of producing a Convincing argument
@@My_Preacher I don't remove everything. I have mine removed too it's RUclips at random and everyone knows this so to accuse me instead o simply repostingf
'Modern' Jewish mystical practice arose as a result of the Moors conquest of the Iberian Peninsula. Islam has a long history of accepting tribes that practiced mysticism into their religion as it expanded. The Sabbeans, the Hashasheeen, the Dervishes are an example. No mention of Sabbatai Zevi? Half of all European/Eurasian Jews followed him in 1666. Wow.
@@GraniteChief369 shabtai zvi is an interesting topic especially concerning false Messiah. But one, I wanted to focus on the Zohar and that part of it and how it affected modern groups (shabtai zvi prob could come into play there as well) and two, it's a bigger topic to unpack, and I haven't brushed up enough recently but I do plan to get there....like you read my mind...or rather it's the obvious next step
I’ve found Merkavah and Hekhalot mysticism just far more interesting than anything I’ve encountered regarding Kabbalah, though Abulafia’s “version” is more appealing to me than the Kabbalah that is rooted in the Zohar.
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Let's hope that by some shenanigan Abulafia is saved. Pray for him, please.
thank you that helps me understand better
Glad to hear it.
It should be noted that the spiritual practitioners of Kabbalah don't often hold the same historical beliefs as scholars regarding what they are referring to when they say something like "The Kabbalah." A scholar will often mean the Jewish mystical developments between the 14th and 17th centuries, whereas practitioners might cite something going back to Adam and the patriarchs.
Legendarily, (i.e. not historically or scholarly) the Kabbalah was the original reception of knowledge by Adam and/or the patriarchs that was orally transmitted from primordial times to Sinai where it was entrusted with Moses. This "original knowledge," "de'ah" or "gnosis," depending on your cultural preference, is what underpinned every esoteric tradition and subsequent religious tradition from time immemorial. Alphabets, writing, numbers, mathematics, astronomy, mysticism, and derivative religious traditions, etc.
Legendarily, the Hebrews claimed to be the conduit through which this knowledge was transmitted. As God charged them at Sinai with being a nation of priests and a light to the nations, it was they who were meant to be the keepers and disseminators of this original wisdom. According to some sources, likely legendary, various Greek and other philosophers learned with the Hebrews/Proto-Jews. You can find some of these stories on Mi Yodea and elsewhere. Abraham is said to be the first Chaldean Oracle, from Ur, and Hebrew, as he was called "HaIvri." It's said that he reinstated the monotheism (and covenant, third after Noah) of Adam. This Adamic covenant was prior to the advent of the polytheism that resulted from the "Calling in the names of God" that was started by Enosh and his generation (lasting until the generation of the dispersion/tower and beyond).
Abraham is said to have gone to Egypt and taught them many mysteries that contributed to their growth and culture as one of the great empires of history. Some legendary adherents will point to the changing of Egyptian religious tradition to be more monotheist (e.g. Aten/Amarna heresy) as an example of this, regardless of the historical dates and timelines. The Patriarchs, Adam, Cain, Able, Seth, Abraham, Enoch, Joseph, Moses, et al. get corresponded with various legendary and mythological figures in the ancient world. These include Esdras, Metatron, Thoth/Theuth/, Osiris/Serapis, Horus, Set/h, Hermes, Hammurabi, etc. Later, Joseph would go back to Egypt and Moses would take the Hebrews out to Sinai where they made an additional covenant and solidified the Jewish people along with the Law/Torah. The legendary adherents/practitioners of the kabbalistic traditions don't care so much about the historical and scholarly opinions on "The Kabbalah" as they are seeking to forge an understanding of the spiritual archetypes that underpin all these legendary and mythological figures, as they believe they incarnate or influence the world repetitiously, even until this day, each being, ultimately, influences of God's attributes/middos/sephiros which He uses to create, maintain, and interact/relate with His world.
I'm sorry I don't have time to write out and address all of this in comments. I think it's important that you make that distinction that the kabbalists etc and others do not accept the historical context per se.
As I understand it, modern scholarly consensus acknowledges some similarities between kabbalah and gnosticism, but that doesnt mean they were influenced by it. Neoplatonism, sure. I would say gnosticism was influenced by platonism, and that is where scholars agree. I would disagree that the aeons are similar to the sefirot, and I don’t think it would be accurate to say kabbalah borrowed from the gnostics. Emanations from platonism? Sure. But any conceptual “borrowing” does not negate the cosmological map that kabbalists were attempting to construct based on what they thought God’s nature and aspects were, and how he interacted with humanity.
@@FeastofChamps sure I can see that. Still based on a forgery with no real biblical basis. So disagreement based on whether or not it's causation or correlation is fallacy of single flaw. Appreciate the time for the comment let me know what you think of my response
@@AshMaiz While I do think Moses de Leon wrote all of it, I don't think it arose from thin air either. He was definitely reading texts from earlier traditions (Jewish, Greek, Persian, etc.) that he syncretized into a coherent system. To me it doesn't matter if Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai wrote it or not. What I find useful is this sort of cultural syncretism that we find in other traditions like Hermeticism. Judaism was open minded enough to adopt these esoteric ideas, even if some of it was pulled from other cultures (as the Babylonian Talmud does too), and apply them to their own foundational Torah framework. Without cultural syncretism, it may have been difficult to keep the Torah alive and vibrant within Jewish communities reeling from exile and disillusionment. Whether concepts like "the spark" are explicitly stated in the Torah or not, Jews (and even Christians I've spoken to) seem able to reconcile it with biblical statements like "man is created in the image of God". If there are ideas that contradict Torah law, then of course, that would be a problem. But if you see Torah as infinite, then the Zohar simply adds new dimensions of interpretive depth to the text.
If I were to come and say that my grandfather is the Messiah, maybe you would indeed consider institutionalizing me, but you wouldn’t think I’m a Christian, God forbid. It’s the same with Chabad. There are a few thousand people there who are a bit eccentric or at least deeply devoted, but no one is Christian, God forbid. And when they say he is supposedly alive, they mean that he is alive in the same way that any deceased person is alive in the World to Come. After a person passes away, they continue to live above - that’s all.
I get what you're saying but they say he is literally still alive and even currently a piece of God unclothed in a physical body. If that's ok to say then maybe Christians are legitimate Jews?
@AshMaiz It's hard to believe that a big group really, truly thinks this way. And if they do, it's hard to believe they are sane.
There’s a Chabad Messianic synagogue near me, and I sometimes pray there. When you talk to them and dig into the topic, you find they aren’t really serious about it. But you have to ask a lot of questions. At first, they’ll tell you they do believe it.
I wrote a comment on your video about Rabbi Manis Friedman and shared a Jewish source to support my point. I’d really appreciate your reply, thanks
Kabbalah literally means receiving so all that has been received in tradition through the ages through all our ancestors is under the definition of Kabbalah
@@Yosaif-Israel it means receiving but that not the word means in this context. That's like when people say "Arabs are semites too so they can't be any semitic" but that's not what it means I'm thi context. Interested to hear your thoughts on the content of the video though. What about the Zohar being a forgery?
@ that’s exactly what he means. You’re just trying to give it a different context Kabbalah is not limited just to the Zora and the teachings of Rabbi Luria.
@ in order to have a true access to the soul of Adam, you have to practice Torah, so you don’t understand the Kabbalah, or the manifestation of Adams soul and its purpose. No wonder you try to compare us to Nazis, which is what Nazis do.
@Yosaif-Israel right I said that in the video...it is a blanket term for Jewish mysticism as used today, but specifically also refers to the zoharisric and lurianic kabbalah
@Yosaif-Israel any comment on the rest of the video?
I would also like to see you make a video investigating the mysterious origins of what came to be called Chassidism based fundamentally on the teachings of rabbis that were not widely disseminated until after the beginning of the 19th century based on the teachings of an enigmatic man who wrote nothing of his own, named R. Yisrael Baal Shem Tov. Truly enigmatic. Followed by some teachings of the Maggid of Mezritch and the Toldot Yosef and then rooted heavily anecdotally on the Shivchei Habesht, disseminated by the early Chabad movement, long before the existence of Menachem Mendel Schneerson. What exactly was the method and basis of teachings that led to very disparate and very different teachings found in the texts of the Noam Elimelech, Kedushat Levi, Likkutei Moharan, Tanya and Toldot Yaakov Yosef??
You can ask a hundred different chassidic scholars and none will be able to provide a definitive answer of what exactly was disseminated by R. Yisrael between 1740 and around 1760 and didn't see publication before the Toldot Yaakov Yosef until the 1790s at the earliest. One mystery wrapped inside another.
Finally there are the mysteries of the emergence of the teachings of Breslov. That vast literature produced by R. Nathan Sternhartz of Nemirov following publication of Part I of Likkutei Moharan, and the Stories, which occurred before 1810. Note that there exists NOT A SINGLE tradition of any literature whatsoever competing with that produced by R. Nathan in the name of the teachings originating with Rabbi Nachman himself. Nothing, anywhere.
Only vague hints exist that the essential teachings of R. Nachman were found in whatever was produced by R. Nathan between 1810 and 1845. This outlook did not exist following the deaths of either R. Isaac Luria, the Baal Shem Tov or the Maggid of Mezritch, all of which had various and competing strains..
Sound like you're more the expert on this 😂 My public email is in the channel description, feel free to shoot me an email and discuss
@AshMaiz Sure, in the meantime I'd be interested in your take on these other subjects too.
@@dovygoodguy1296 on history and timeline I'm not very clear especially with so many groups on ideology and philosophy and how it can be tied back to tanakh (or not) would be more my line of questioning
@@dovygoodguy1296 because my main line of questioning is, is it authentic to Tanakh? Is it authentic to Judaism yes or no and if not, is it a net positive? Yes or no?.
@@AshMaiz Authenticity relates back to the Mishna and Gemara of Chazal.
The writings of R. Chaim Vital reflecting the teachings of R. Isaac Luria only became widespread after R. Chaim Vital's writings were disseminated by his son, R. Shmuel Vital. Other disciples of R. Isaac were R. Yisrael Soreg and others.I just don't know why the focus of kabbalah always focuses on the followers of Menachem Mendel Schneersohn and the competing subsects of that particular group. This video is somewhat disappointing because it confuses the audience.
I mean lutianic Kabbalah draws heavily from zoharistic Kabbalah. And none of it has a very strong foundation in Tanakh. So I'd say the point is still relevant even without specifying so clearly the differences. That being said, the main focus here was on the Zohar and the influence it's had in certain negative ways. Again, I also stress that I do think that Kabbalah as a concept has been a net positive regardless
Please let none of yourselves kid yourself into thinking you understand kabbalah. You all first need to go to jewish kindergarten. We will start there.
@@MenachemChanina yah I went to Jewish kindergarten already thanks.
@AshMaiz did you learn in class? Or were you spacing out?
Do you know the aleph bies by heart?
I mean I wasn't spacing out when I learned masechet avodah zarah ...but again youre just being a rude piece of garbage because you having nothing else to stand on...and you use "Tactics" to get attention...right?
@@MenachemChanina so everyone has to justify their education level to you but you don't need to give basic evidence for your claims?
First of all the Zohar was not given to rabbi shimon bar yochai. I don't know where you got that from. The Zohar was written by rabbi shimon bar yochai by information that was given from him by eliyahu hanavi as well as many other tzaddikim who came down and told him this information. As well as through maggidim etc.
This that you say that it's not biblical there is no makor for what you are saying. Wdym it's not biblical? That it doesn't say in the text the same actual words? It also doesn't say god created darkness. Wdym it's not biblical. It's learnt out. And you realize your trying to debunk huge tzaddikim through some proofs that not all kabballists had the exact way of learning. There are many ways of learning kabbalah.
Again, you're arguing with things that I didn't say. And again, The fact that you claim it was rashbi who wrote it with knowledge from eliyahu hanavi does not make it so. If I come out with a book and I tell you that Eliyahu hanavi spoke to me and that's why I wrote the book. You wouldn't believe me right? You would ask for evidence?
And if I like Moses de Leon claimed I found a book from Rabbi shimon bar yochai, but evidence showed that it was written in the 21st century. You would know I was lying, right??
@AshMaiz ok. So the difference is rashbi was a giant in Torah even before he wrote the Zohar. Also many stuff it says in Zohar proves that he wrote it. As for it being true, it was written by a Torah giant unlike which were in centuries as well with his son on his side... And obviously is on the Torah. As for him seeing maggidim ad eliyahu hanavi I think we agree that there's a difference if he said it then if a random shmo siad. Also huge tzaddikim then it wasn't extremely unordiany for them to speak with maggidim and neshmos of tzaddikim. It's all you yetzer hara.
@AshMaiz if so I'm not sure what you were arguing against or about
@@AshMaiz also what doesn't it make it so? It says clearly in seforim and I think even in the Zohar itself.
Yes that's my point the Zohar can't be the proof of its own legitimacy. If exterior evidence shows its claims to be false, for example containing anachronisms, or for example testimony from the authors wife, or linguistic differences that depart wildly from the supposed authors writing style, than it is clearly a forgery and inauthentic
Most of this seems very confused and superficially connected.
-We have Moses deleon’s Kabbalah writings and they are not consistent with various things written in the Zohar
- there are many Kabbalah works aside from the Zohar. One cannot accurately say that Kabbalah is an invention merely by having issues with the Zohar. That’s a very illogical argument. Kabbalah concepts are quoted even in the geonic period, and mystical concepts and actions are mentioned in the Talmud.
-Rambam’s rejection of Kabbalah is not at all agreed upon. Many even argue the sources of some of his opinions can only be found in the Zohar. One well known rabbi mentions that Rambam mentions what one should do with the shoe during the chalitza ceremony. The Rambam says it seems to him that one should do xyz with the shoe. Nobody talks about it, and yet in the Zohar this is exactly what it says to do with the shoe and explains in detail why.
- people even not with the influence of Kabbalah like the followers of David Alroy also claimed he would come back from
The dead. One messianic group the Rambam mentions says that they believed their messiah was hidden. This is just the intellectual landscape of options available to a person after he claims to be the messiah and dies. Either he will come back or he is hidden. U don’t need mysticism for that
- it was not “rejected completely” at first. Not accurate.
- Chabad is not a “blend” of other ideas. Chabad will say they are relying on Jewish ideas. This is a profound misunderstanding of the issue. Lhavdil Shabtai tzvi and his follwers did not think they were borrowing other ideas of the messiah from others
- the rebbe passed in 1994 not 1993
- u said abulafia perhaps just wanted to convert to Christianity. Such an insane and outrageous statement with no evidence at all. Is that all it takes to propose a theory?
@@Chosidchosid770 I appreciate the respectful disagreement (see my latest video on that lol I mention how I live when ppl disagree respectfully I prefer it to ppl agreeing, because then I learn something)
As for the part about Moses deleon's writings being different from the Zohar, if I was known for writing a certain style and then I was trying to forge a document as if somebody else wrote it. I would make it considerably different than what I wrote. We have the story of his wife being interviewed by another capitalist at the time and admitting that he wrote it. We also see anachronistic elements that could not possibly place it in the 2nd century. Unfortunately, my view on this is that even if it was written by shimon bar yochai that wouldn't validate the Zohar that would invalidate shimon Bar yochai so I'm not sure how that helps. And the reason I believe that is from the text itself to me and too many others. It does seem to conflict with Tanakh.
To another point, there are many crazy people that claim crazy things like being Messiahs and raising from the dead who do not believe in the Zohar that does not invalidate the claim that the Zohar can inspire that in people.
All this being said, I do say towards the end of the video that I do think Kabbalah is a net positive for the Jewish community. I don't believe there's anything wrong with Kabbalah. I don't believe that it's necessarily heretical if you view it as a inspiration for meditation and to contemplate God and not as a literal approach to God.
And then as far as believing that the Rebecca is mashiach, for example, I don't see any particular problem with that either. The only issue I see with that is that if you claim those things that are said about the Reba, you have to accept Christians as legitimate members of the covenant because their claims are not different in the most extreme way, to say that the rabbit is חלק אלו ה ממש מלובש בגוף גשמי you would have to accept Christians believing in the covenant with God of Israel and believing in a man as the Messiah who's partially Divine in some way.
@@Chosidchosid770 and then as far as the rambam and his disagreements with early kabalists. There are disputes on his opinions on it. However, the very fact that his philosophy is wildly disagree with anything that mimics or reflects kabbalistic ideas. I think that would be evidence enough that those claims are at least partially true.
@@Chosidchosid770 and then as far as kabbalistic schools different than the Zohar, yes, I did specify there are earlier kabalists than the Zohar. And there are later kabalists and completely different schools of thought. That's why Kabbalah is a over-encompassing term for all Jewish mysticism as we know it today. Any kind of divine inspired mysticism would be called Kabbalah and Judaism, whether a misnomer or not. Now personally I have quite an affinity for the Tanya. Whether I agree with everything in the tanya or not is a different issue. But that being said I do respect the Tanya a lot. I do learn Tanya, I did growing up and I still do, in fact my great-great-great-great-grandfather I'm not sure how many generations back it would count as was a student of the alter rebbe.
@ - I would think, in straightforward logic that if someone forges a document, like Joseph smith and the Book of Mormon, he has something to be gained. If he desires to be seen as a prophet then he has gained something, however if he is not taking any credit for it then the only thing left to be gained is that your ideas live on forever should it be accepted. Since there are disagreements on important issues between the Zohar and Moshe deleon a Straight forward conclusion is that he did not write it. U can attempt to keep it going saying we don’t have to know the reason and he can make differences so people don’t trace it back to him, but u can do that with anything. We can make up stories for anything.
- I think your mindset is too focused on trying to show similarity and ignore differences that u aren’t realizing why kabbalistic concepts regarding the rebbe are not on par with Christianity. U are connecting these cases superficially and not plumbing the depths of the doctrine.
The Zohar's major opponent Elijah Delmedigo refers to the Zohar as having existed for "only" 300 years. Even he agrees that it was extant before the time of R' Moses De Leon.
One should be careful not to oversimplify this subject, and try to distinguish between Kabbalah as "midrashic" interpretation, the Zohar itself, and teachings ATTRIBUTED to R. Isaac Luria through the teachings mainly of R. Chaim VItal, and then the very non-abstract teachings of the followers of the Baal Shem Tov in the books published in the early 19th century. But please don't mix all these things up, or throw in Avraham Abulafia or even Shabtai Zevi. The listeners will just get hopelessly confused.
@@dovygoodguy1296 ok. I can accept The criticism there that maybe this is confusing too many issues together when I say Kabbalah.
I did specify that in general that is a generic term used in modern Judaism today to refer to Jewish mysticism and that's why I wanted to clarify that what I was speaking about mostly was the Zohar and it's influence.
That being said, you are 100% right. It is evident that I assumed too much onn behalf of some of the people watching that they might understand that these are separate issues that are connected but not the same.
Also, some people are just clearly nuts and get really really upset when you criticize any of these above topics.
@ Your last point I agree with completely. However, any analysis even of the Zohar (not to mention Sefer Hayetsira, Merkava, and the other works) have some kind of ancient roots that are sometimes hinted at in the Talmud but which the Talmudic sages considered not directly relevant to day-to-day life of Torah laws elaborated on in the Mishnah. What irks me the most are those who ascribe equivalent authority to the Zohar which appeared in the possession of a single man, whatever the origins, hundreds of years after the Talmud was completed. It is not even of the same authority as the Midrashim.
I haven’t read much original source material on Kabbalah, but it sort of seems like new ageism occult ? Am I wrong ?
@@orangemanbad It's hard to call it new agey cuz a lot of it does stem from very early ideas. A lot of it developed 7th through 11th centuries, but what we call Kabbalah today is very heavily based on the 13th century writings in the Zohar and the 16th century works of Isaac luria later popularized by the Hasidic movements in the 18th centuries at 19th centuries
@@orangemanbad today is very new agey definitely so.
@@AshMaiz perhaps the better question, is new ageism based on Kabbalah?
@@orangemanbad haha yes it is but on a bunch of stuff as well
Revelation is the unveiling of the Kabbalah Tree of Life. The marriage of the Lamb and God is the completion of a non-dual relationship between the masculine and feminine. At the same time, the carnal reality is taken up with them. Matter becomes the property of God alone minus the terribleness of the “devil”. The temple is the completion of the Kabbalah diagram. So yes, the Bible is completely entwined with it.
Sure. And im a flying peanut
Kabbalistic prayers more than often open with these words:
לשם יחוד קודשא בריך הוא ושכינתיה (יאהדונהי) בדחילו ורחימו (יאההויהה) ורחימו ודחילו (איההיוהה)
"L'Shem yichud HaKadosh BaruchHu (HKB"H) u'Shekinteh, bidchilu urchimu, urchimu bidchilu..."
"To unify the Holy One Blessed is He and His Shekinah, in awe and love and love and awe..."
And the purpose of these acts of theurgy (mitzvos and tefilos) is to elevate the physical world and to bring God down to dwell in the lower worlds/making a home for God. In that context, the revelation of Kabbalah is indeed the divine marriage/unification (Greek Heiros Gamos) or what you call the "completion of a non-dual relationship between masculine (HKB"H) and feminine (u'Shekinteh)." This world is a garden, a temple, the body of God, as you are a garden, a temple, a body of God, and yes, it's all derived from the Bible/Torah. Every letter, every word, every utterance, it's all One.
And I suppose @AshMaiz is a flying peanut.
@ayinayin3652 of Kabbalah is authentic to the Bible than yes I am a flying peanut... Just like you seem to be able to read kabala into the tanakh, So to do Christians... Why is there way any less valid than your way? You talk about a multiplicity in God that is really unified as one. They talk about a multiplicity in God that is unified and really one....why is it idolatry?
@ The Bible/Torah is the written tradition that was supposedly obtained at HarSinai. Kabbalah can refer to either generally anything that was received from God, including this written aspect of Torah, or more specifically the oral transmission, either received at Sinai and/or passed down from the patriarchs.
Alternatively, according to the legendary adherent practitioners, the original transmission was to Adam or further alternatively, whatever ancient civilizations that developed prior to Abraham, and these became understood through different cultural lenses.
So no, I'm not necessarily saying that Kabbalah as understood by scholars is authentic EXCLUSIVELY to the bible/Written Torah as it could be construed as any received or oral tradition stemming from some older tradition or perhaps developments from some shared perennial human experience/prisca theologia. It was shared and spread all around and influenced the world, as intended.
I've not said anything about my way, one way, or idolatry.
And yes, there are plenty of parallels that can be made between animism, polytheism, kabbalah, and Christianity/Edom. I don't object to them or any other way or people, in so far that things stay civil and don't become tribal/violent.
@@ayinayin3652 yup I take no issue with people personal practice or belief...just like when they call it is lol 😆
I gathered you were attempting to define the meaning and origen
Of the Kabbalah I would have thought Spain, Islam and Sufism would appear in your presentation
@@elaltocompaniaanonima8286 of I was doing a full history of kabbalh sure but that wasn't the point of the video. Maybe if I had an hour or two I could get more into it but that isn't what I'm getting at here right now
Is it just plain ignorance or just ill will on your part that you don't mention the overwhelming fact of Muslim Spain and Islam's Sufi tradition!!??
@@elaltocompaniaanonima8286 didn't particularly feel it was relevant to the point I was making , Yes, obviously there was obviously Islamic influence. Can you explain to me though why it has to be ignorance or ill will or could it be just my selective choice in what I felt was important for the video or not?
Definitely not. Kabbalah is the surviving tradition of the Chaldean mystics, much older than Judaism.
At least this is what the hermetic schools teach. As you mentioned, Kabbalah resembles neo-platonism. A very far cry from Judiasm.
Everything ive seen on Jewish Kabbalah, Chabad Lubavitch etc, appears like fundamentalism with no mysticism at all. But I guess I wouldn’t know because I’m not part of gods chosen people. 😂
@@jsea56 chabad has its rootsnin mysticism but modern chabad is all findementalism. It funny they say pseudo mystical things as legalistic dogma which is very odd. Also, not a good representation of traditional Orthodox Judaism even though on the ritualistic side they are devout on theology and doctrine they are worlds apart...hence the emergnce of people like rabbi manis Friedman
The spiritual kabbalist all live in Israel, mainly in Tzefat and Jerusalem
And they dont post on the Internet
Spiritual Kabbala is still very much a thing within judaism and its believed that you can only go so far from learning books , and the "real kabbala" can only be received in sleep after long and intense purification of the nefesh and than the soul can harvest more of the divine light , power of life or what ever you wanna call it
You should read the tanya
@@humimimimi901 I'm from Jerusalem, didn't meet too many "spiritual kabbalists" 😂
@@MBEG89 grew up chabad, I used to teach Tanya....try again
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@@almo1956 👍🏼
Rev 3:9: "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you."
I get this feeling the ppl that are obsessed with calling all Jews synagogue of Satan are really a bit satanic themselves or at least missed the point of the gospel.
I think you're supposed to be preaching the gospel, not out of context quoting one verse about the synagogue of Satan to every Jew you meet
In fact i'd probably go as far as to say warping and distorting the words of Jesus to abuse Jews is prob satanic by NT standards...
John 8:44: "All of you are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father all of you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
So all Jews who believe in any form of kabalah are satanic?
Kabbalah is Jewish. The author of the Zohar was Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai.
@@aaronavery887 maybe watch the video before commenting because that is addressed
Ignorance=not knowing willful ignorance=manipulation ie deception.
Neither of those things is what ignorance means.
There are no original stories in the old testament so why would we assume that kabbalah is original?
@@Lux-Aeternum1 I don't lol though I disagree with the premise
@ hi! Very easy to research if my claim is true. ChatGPT each chapter and ask for possible earlier sources of inspiration or similar stories from the region (Babylonia and Egypt). Just some of the examples: epic of Gilgamesh, Egyptian book of the dead, ark of the covenant = ark of the contract... And many more. Hope you have a great day.
Good video
Thanks
Jesus is the way the truth and the Life ❤
@@aaron777-og 🙏🏼
Interesting, how someone who knows NOTHING WHATSOEVER about kabalah can talk so kuch about it.
I will let you in on a real secret... You can't even begin to understand TRUE kabbala until you have mastered the Hebrew Bible as well has the Talmudic and Midrashic explanations. I know, because I have tried and failed, because I have not yet mastered the prerequisite coursework.
So you're saying I must not know anything for two reasons
1. Because I disagree
2. Because you failed
Sound logic pal
I am posting my comment to correct several false and misleading claims you have made regarding key aspects of Jewish thought and history. Your statements are not only inaccurate but appear deliberately constructed to mislead your audience. This level of intellectual dishonesty is unacceptable, and I will not allow these distortions to go unchallenged.
1.Maimonides and Kabbalah
Your claim that Maimonides "rejected Kabbalah" is entirely baseless. Maimonides (1138-1204) lived before the formal development of Kabbalah as a structured mystical tradition, particularly the Zohar, which emerged in the 13th century. Suggesting that he rejected something that did not exist in his time is not just inaccurate-it’s outright deceptive. While his rationalist philosophy differs from the mystical worldview of later Kabbalah, attributing a rejection of something outside his historical context is intellectually dishonest.
2.Moses de León and the Zohar
You assert that Moses de León was excommunicated and accused of forgery. This is a blatant lie. There is no historical record of Moses de León being excommunicated by his contemporaries, nor was he accused of forgery during his lifetime. While some skepticism about the authorship of the Zohar arose after his death, your claim misrepresents the reality of his reception among mystical circles. The Zohar was embraced during his lifetime, and its attribution to Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai gave it significant legitimacy. You are twisting historical facts to fit your narrative, and that is unacceptable.
3.Rabbi Schneerson and Chabad Messianism
Your portrayal of Chabad’s belief in Rabbi Schneerson as the Messiah is misleading and inflammatory. While it is true that many Chabad followers hoped he could be the Messiah during his lifetime, this belief has largely diminished since his passing in 1994. Today, only a vocal minority still actively promote this idea, while the majority focus on his teachings and leadership. Your attempt to paint the entire Chabad movement as messianic extremists is a gross distortion and reflects either ignorance or a deliberate attempt to misrepresent their community.
Your false claims are not harmless-they misinform your audience and discredit honest dialogue about Jewish history and thought. If you intend to engage in serious discussion on these matters, you must base your arguments on facts, not fabrications. I strongly urge you to retract these falsehoods and commit to intellectual honesty in the future.I do not know where you coming from, if you are a christian or what ever. Before you make false claims about a religion, which obviously you do not beling tell us what you believe in,so I can make e the appraoch to criticise your beliefs.Go on I will wait....
1. I never said my maimonides rejected the Zohar I said he rejected the pre Zohar Kabbalah of the neoplatonist.
2. I never said Moses de Leon was excommunicated. I said I'm not sure, but I know that the Zohar was rejected by the rabbanim of the time
3. And as for chabad and the Messianic movement around the rebbe. Don't tell me that my claims are false. I grew up chabad. I know that they're not. If chabad doesn't want people making inflammatory statements, they shouldn't do inflammatory things.
And as for your claims about what I must do in the future know I must not do anything. You must stay in your lane and not tell people what they must do, especially when they're right and you're wrong. You want to defend false ideologies that's your prerogative go make a video
@@torahsoldier23 ובאמת שאני לא מצפה יותר מזה מחיל שעושה תמונות אינסטגרם על מדים בכותל. תותחנים נכון?
@@AshMaiz IAM not defending any ideology. I corrected you by using facts.You ,instead ,used objections based on feelings and/ or your hate towards Judaism ! I debunked your false claims and lies with facts / truth and I cornered you and I showed you where your place really is ! Sit down !
@torahsoldier23 there was no fact there you misconstrued what I said and tried to fight a straw man. No, it's not based on feeling it's based on fact, what you're doing is based on feeling you're butt hurt about the fact that I criticize things that you identify with. I have no hatred towards Judaism at all. you're also mischaracterizing what I'm saying and doing.
I was born and raised Jewish, still am jewish of course, love many aspects of the Jewish community. Love the land of Israel, and now you're just making defamatory statements without no knowledge about anything to do with my life. Any one that uses the phrase sit down at the end of an argument is pretty cringy already eapecially when somebody just told you that you strawmanned an argument so that you could have a win in your own mind. So once again no you didn't correct me with any fact you used other facts to correct something I didn't say. And then made assertions about my background. My beliefs that you know nothing about. Why don't you make a video about it. See how it goes? And why tell me to recant things I didn't say if you won't recant errors you did say? Recant now!!!! 🤣
Also, did you know all these figures, thinkers, sages, and kabbalaist that you mentioned rose out of a time that spain was ruled by Islam/moors...
Im jewish born in morrocco raised in Canada and only learned about this piece of incredible history a few years ago. I'm ashamed to say...
Re: chabad that i WAS with for 40+ years, ya they push quantum physics, the new science...Spinoza's god.
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@@almo1956 right!! And interesting that maimonides who very well understood the Muslim/Arab influence rejected the early kabbalists. And rejected neoplatonism.
@AshMaiz I like your channel, good stuff. The Ai brought it to me..
funny you should bring that up, I could never figure out why the last chabad house I used to attend had a painting of napoleon...
I'm very clear on that now...
Can you do a video on the b'nia brith? Or have you done one on them already?
The rebbe, according to some, is God
Greater than Moses
@@ShSy-ni6zq So I've heard
Something about talmud? Thank you for the information 😉
In the works
Do you know what they say about Kabbalah ?
Those who say dont know and those who know dont say.
Very easy way out of having to explain why you're a narcissistic cult member ? You know, and everyone who disagrees is stupid right? But you don't have to explain why? Classic
@AshMaiz that's a bit presumptuous but you get a pass cause you're a mensch. My point is that a historical overview of a mystical tradition doesn't illuminate what the mystical effects are on either an individual or the world at large. Simply, you may know some history but I doubt you have any knowledge of the actual experience and yet you feel justified in disparaging it.
@AshMaiz Thats a bit presumptuous but you get a pass cause you're a mensch.
My point is: knowing the history of a mystical tradition doesn’t gives one the experience of that tradition.
You mistake Binah with Daat. Chabad might be able to help you with that.
@@ShalomMF I grew up in chabad lol
@@ShalomMF you know from other comment sill admit where I'm wrong. Id argue personal experience doesn't trump verifiable truth
You read a Wikipedia article and think you are an expert? You are no scholar. Completely self-absorbed.
@@amethyst4990 yes Wikipedia that's all...didn't at aaaalll grownup on the Jewish community and learn as part of my upbringing and culture.
Try again fool
@@amethyst4990 now that you've shown you at are a fool..maybe try refutation of what I said and not just cliched insults
You think Moses was bad.... about his bro , Ponce !😮
@@ShSy-ni6zq ??
1994 not 1993
@@JoeBisk thank you for the correction!
@@AshMaiz הרבי מלובביץ, החליטו שהוא המשיח, חבורת ההזויים..
וכן, זה מזכיר את הדוגמה של ישוע שהחליטו שהוא המשיח
My dear RUclipsr threre is only one truth. There is only one torah that dosent and will never change. And everything that comes from torah is true including kabbalah which you probably only know tge meanjng of the actual word. And everything that us not from torah is false. Its that simple
Lol
You enjoy your idol worship! Have fun!
@@MenachemChanina not judging...to each their own...but call it what it is
@@AshMaiz wow you truly know nothing I don't even know where to start. It's like I walked in to such a messy room and I don't know what I should start cleaning first.
@@MenachemChanina you think you need to clean other people who disagree...got it, psycho
I have the answer, having finished the podcast...... it's just plain ignorance!!!!
@@elaltocompaniaanonima8286 how so? Also, you seem like a very pleasant person. Why are you so butthurt about it?
Nuh... it is witchcraft... demonic deceit.
@@johnnyd2383 ok
@@johnnyd2383 did you watch?
@@AshMaiz yup... I did...
@@johnnyd2383 any feedback?
@@AshMaiz Video is fine. Assessments as well.. I was merely answering the title question.
PS What is "butthead" an ad hominum perchance?
Butt hurt...like unnecessarily upset
Is it just plain ignorans
Are you schizophrenic or something?