Riding a Fishbowl to Parkchester - 1998 NY Bus Service
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2011
- The only better way to ride a fishbowl than sticking your elbow out the rear most side window was to ride in the front seat of an 8 cylinder express coach through scenic cityscape. Enjoy this ride as if you were an actual passenger on this last relic of the most recognizable 20th century North American diesel powered transit bus. The new look remained in production into the early 1980s in Canada. Some of these were imported by NYC private bus carriers. New York Bus Service was able to keep these running long after all the others let them go, and I believe, without extensive body rebuilding. Wear and tear was at a minimum since many coaches were only required for two rush hour trips per day. The Madison Avenue bus lane is the only dual bus lane in NYC and was introduced just before the 1982 delivery of this coach. As you can can see, it was well enforced in 1998 and provides substantial time savings. The NYC express bus system grew very rapidly in the late 1960s and early 1970s coinciding with both a decline in the quality of local bus and rail service plus and increased expectation of comfort such as air conditioning. Later in the video I move to the back of the bus where you can really hear the engine as well as the synchronized hum of the rear mounted A/C unit. I believe the model number is T8H-5308A based on my reading of on-line equipment rosters. It is definitely a 96" width with 8 cyinders and no center door and delivered in 1982.
The route begins at Madison Square Park and proceeds up Madison Ave, cuts over to Third Ave somewhere in the Upper East Side, goes up Third Ave to E124th Street in East Harlem, then over the Triboro Bridge, Bruckner Expressway and the entire 1+ miles of the Sheridan Expressway (I-895) then on to Hugh Grant Circle and Metropolitan Oval at the heart of one of the largest private housing developments, Parkchester (built and operated at the time by Metropolitan Life Insurance Co.) There are a few shots of Parkchester as well. Casement windows (the standard in thousands of mid-century NYC apartment houses) are still there. Note the lack of window air-conditioners. The 1930s designed wiring could not handle the load, so they were forbidden. The windows and wiring were upgraded a few years ago, after Stuyvesant Town and Peter Cooper Village in Manhattan were similarly upgraded by Met Life.
The song at 12:57 is Roberto Pregadio Claudia In Motoretta by Roberto Pregadio (Italy 1976)
My favorite 3 minutes of this video start 15:24, Madison and 3rd Avenues scenery floating by.
At 7:13 there is a discussion about one of the sealed beams not working.
By the way, you cowboys can learn a thing or two from the young bro at this big wheel!
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Omg NOOO WAY!!! The guy walking in the Bus at 5:35 in front of the MTA building (which is the Metro North office) is a family friend, Carlton Willams. He definitely lived in Parkchester but unfortunately he passed away several years ago. He was in his early 60s. So sad. I miss him. As you see he was always smiling! 😢
There was so much diversity back then compared to what it is today. I miss all the old/non hybrid buses; REAL buses!
there still is diversity today...
It's not even remotely as diveserse as it was back then...
@@THXEB-nj5wr loved that movie
not in manhattan..i call it boston now cuz everyone is from now..you want diversity? go to to my hometown of Queens
dumbass it’s still fucking diverse, nyc will never stop being diverse
This is when New York was New York!!!!! I grew up in Bronxdale. I used to catch the Pelham Bay Park bus at White Plains road and Bruckner. I miss the old Redbirds on the 6 line. the city had more flavor to it then, now it's dead to me.
@debiase101 not just J/M/Z Redbirds were on A/C/E lines.
when ny was ny? bitch wtf is it now? its dead to you? good gtfo and never come back
Back When NYC Buses had Character and loved all the Different paint schemes
Sad how EVERY Bus seen in this video no longer exists, By 1998 The 1981-83 GMC RTSs started to retire, with the 1983s being the 1st ones to go in 2000 and the 1981s retiring in late 2002, the 1982 RTSs were gone by mid 2003, while the 1984 -86 RTSs lasted up until 2006. Most of the MCI Classics have been retired between 2007 & 09, even 1996 Novabus RTS #9118 is now retired!!! Liberty Lines MCI Classic #3071 later became MTA Bus #7889 and was retired in 2009, but luckily it's sister #3006 is proudly preserved in the Museum & 1998 Novabus RTS #9514 is currently in service at Grand Avenue Depot in Brooklyn. I was 2 years old when this was recorded
@@javie2064 this was pretty much my era i was 2 around the time this was taped
Also, the Bronx got rid of all their RTS's full-time by early 2008. Sure some 1990s, 1993s, 1996s and 1999s came to West Farms during the 2010s, but not the same when they were running in Kingsbridge and Gun Hill. Feels weird seeing the Bx36 use the Grant Circle back then.
@@busforcejesus I remember that
@@kalelc1996 Now, it's the Orion VII Old Gens (and the Next Gens) are meeting the same fate. The 1st Gen CNGs were the first to be retired in 2018, the 2nd Gen CNGs were all gone by May 2019, the 1st Gen Hybrids were gone by August 2019, the 2005 2nd Gens retired from Manhattanville by September 2019 (and the entire fleet by November 2020), and now, it's the 2006s and 2007s that are starting to retire. They're gonna be all gone by early-2022. The Next Gens will be gone by mid 2022-2023.
Not exactly true. There are some Classics that went into the hands of private collectors.
Terrific video man! All vehicles today are or shit or boring compared to the ones is this footage.
Thank you, its one of my favorite videos. I wish I did many more and would have had I possessed an early HD camera.
We had the coolest RTSs & Classics. I was 1 1/2 when this was filmed but I was living in NYC at the time & I'm glad to be back in the city
That driver can really wheel that bus! I haven't heard him toot the horn even once I just can't figure how GM who was the dominant bus builder in North America lost it all. They managed to ,lose the locomotive dominance as well. Now they make Buicks in China.
I know what you mean GM is not what they use to be. When the sold the bus motor choch division. In 1986 they started having problems. In 1996 when they sold GMC white to Volvo And in 2000 when the sold Electric Motive Division (EMD) to Caterpillar. They been having a lot of problems whit there cars.
GM wanted to get out of the Bus Business and wanted to simply focus on cars and pickup trucks, but they did build 2 amazing buses between that of the RTS and the Fishbowl the last Fishbowl to officially retire from Revenue service was in the US was in Wisconsin in 2014.
@@raymondj.2351 what town in Wisconsin still had fishbowl in 2014
@@jimmytrussel488 Disregard that last statement, I had the State of Wisconsin on my mind when it was actually the New York Bus Service Fishbowls that retired in 2014. Wasau, WI was the Transit System that received the last US built Fishbowls before they continued on with manufacturing those buses in Canada.
@Raymond J. oh ok thanks I was shocked when u said that I know Milwaukee and racine wi still had fishbowl in the early 2000s
I miss RTS!
I drove those fishbowls for New York Bus service many moons ago. To this day I miss it. Great memories.
Great video, back when New York was special. Love all those 95-98 Crown Vic cabs darting around. Things just suck now.
The cab company is ran by noting but cheap Japanese plastic
Holy Christmas, I miss those days!!! Those were my teenage years when I started breaking out and exploring the city and surroundings at the tail end of the era when there was still EQUIPMENT out there! Killer music too! Outstanding!
Wow When Life was Normal.. Love The Big Apple !
Cool! Back when there were no crap Orion VII Hybrid buses in NY.
Did you know that New York Bus Service also had a school bus division? I seen some Wayne Lifeguards wearing the "New York Bus Service" name on it. Finding pics of these buses are extremely rare.
New York City - The best city in the damn world, period.
Thanks for posting this very excellent video!
The endless summer ad of Parade of Shoes stores
Wasn't it the year before the endless summer of Men In Black playing on every radio everywhere?
Lol some rts'es were brand new in this video!!! So sad most of them are gone now
holy fucking shit this is 2 stroke heaven every damn corner has a at least 5 screaming jimmys going around
dude..love the music..specially going through the projects!!! LOL!!!
those aren’t the projects anymore duncehead
awesome video reminded me of my childhood days in the 90's Thanks
95xx was short lived in Walnut, they was actually the first buses to relocate on 9/7/1998
thank you for this. brought tears to my eyes to see parkchester during the time that i still lived there and grew up!
What a great video!! Thanks for posting. this really brings back a lot of memories for me.
1st comment in 8 years my guy
I miss tht front seat position when riding the bus. I started sitting there in the front befor ethe rts busses were about to retire since I knew I would never get the chance to sit on that front seat by the front door again. Cool video on this Fishbowl bus which at the time was probably on its way out too right?
Bless you for this great time capsule. Having been born and raised in the Unionport section of The Bronx, I remember great summer rides on that old fishbowl! I recall catching this very bus along Madison Avenue back in the summer of 2001 after my pops took me and my brothers to see the remake of PLANET OF THE APES at the old Ziegfeld multiplex in Midtown. Before the madness, but hey, we'll always have the memories 🇵🇷🇺🇸😊
Wow! Just discovered this video !! Love it !!!! In the early 90's I drove for Funaway Tours and I remember I used to do Friday and Saturday evening Atlantic City line runs that would start in Parkchester . We would leave about 6pm and return about 6am the next day.
Good times ! In late 1997 I worked for Premier outta the the Bronx as well. That MC9 that so rudely cut you off was a premier. No, that wasn't me driving 😊. January 98, I move to Los Angeles, I lasted 6 months. Moved back to the city June 6th of 98. This video looks like it was shot May or June of 98 based on the movie billboards. Anyway , love this video for so many reasons, the fishbowl, the city in 98, the other cool buses! NY bus service also ran the "deck and a half" New York talk for the 4905 till well into the millennium. I live in Williamsburg Bk now and own a converted 1984 MC9 that I bought from Campus Coach in 2008. Another Bronx bus company that doesn't exist anymore. Amazing video ! Thanks for posting!
Thank you for this video I honestly just wanted to see all the stores I use visit as a kid in parkchester
I did not live in the Bronx back in 1998, but I remember these private bus lines operating in the city. The local Queens bus service on the Green Bus Lines was horrific. The City now runs all bus lines and these Bronx Express lines are all now numbered. I now ride the BxM10 which probably was the Morris Park line with New York Bus Service.
I'm a a Staten Island boy, but I remember once having to take that Green Line bus out to Howard Beach once, for a job interview I'd never heardf of it before then.
I also remember taking another privately run bus that went to Mill Basin in Brooklyn, was that also Green Line?
I still miss the New York bus service and command bus line and Jamaica bus line and Green bus line in New York city it was part of my childhood
@6:25 on the left hand side of the street there is a ny1 news microwave truck. I was working for them at the time this was recorded.
We were at that location a lot covering press conferences at the mta building.
Thanks for the memories Trainluvr.
This is a totally - awesome video,
from a totally - awesome time,
in a totally awesome City !!!
You're welcome
Ah, the good years of life.
The old Cookies billboard!!!!!! A few blocks down there was the infamous Marlboro ad on the side of a building off White Plains Rd.
Great channel for things Buses and Trains, NYCTA and MaBSTOA!! You do a fantastic job!
I remember sitting on my grandparents terrace in CO- Op watching NY Bus service and Steinway transit go by great memories in this video
Wow. Just wow. The whole video was juat a Kickstart to my senses. Brought back so many memories
i remember that guy. the supervisor standing at the stop. Took Express bus for many years.
Parkchester back in the day this video rocks...Good Job !
Awesome video when I was a teen i visited nyc for first time and being from pgh had no idea where to go but i found 1490 and rode to morris park.This was a great ride and then i had a mci classic back but the gm was great.Long live the memory of new looks.
Yep, this is great! Thanks. Love the detail.
This is a great video! Great footage and I'm glad you were able to post this. I remember taking these buses when I was a kid but on Liberty Lines. This is great footage of Manhattan and the Bronx. The music is great also. Again great video!
Stay tuned, my next video is a special about express buses.
Sweet momma. Fantastic footage of these vintage buses.
I found out from an operator who was told by a Dispatcher in Eastchester Depot who is an old head from New York Bus Service that BxM11 used to be under New York Bus Service before it went to Liberty Lines Express.
16:22 Spanish Harlem, that's where I live! I was 6 at the time of recording.
Nice lol I remember Roy Rogers
Amazing footage OMG!!!
this really takes me home. thanks.
Late 90s NYC...pre 9/11 it really seemed to be a different city than it is today.
Thank You!
Crazy that these legendary bus routes grew up to be BxM's, BM's, and QM's today. These are the true express routes I remember.
Miss Jennifer Banks still is. Only NYBS used the termini names on their old schedules. The BxM Numbers was added later in the 80s
Late 1990's - Sept 10, 2001 was the golden age of America.
Peak USA.
Great recording of riding a classic American icon to the Bronx. When I was younger I preferred riding the subway between the Bronx and Manhattan but now I appreciate the scenery that traveling on the bus offers. Plus, since the seats face forward, it feels a bit safer to doze off on a commuter bus for a quick nap rather than on the subway.
ACLTony I’m from Los Angeles and rode the same thing
That is today's BxM6 you're riding by the way. Also, I never knew the Bx36 used the Grant Circle back in the day!
8V71N Detroit Diesel engine with V730 Allison Transmission in the GMC Fishbowl of course I see one in the Lakewood garage Ex New York Bus Service bus # 1481 is for history lessons
Current bus route you took:BXM6
Awesome!
GREAT GREAT VIDEO Most all this equipment is now gone!!
Built in 1982 wow it was built the year I was born. The bus was a 16 years old bus at the time in 1998.
The music is fine but I like to listen to the Detroit Diesel that's music to our ears
Wow $3....Versus $6.75. Good ol days though
Pretty cool video I never been to New York but one day i will go. But i grew up in Oakland Ca in the San Francisco Bay Area and in the 80's and early 90's i rode many New Look GM Buses by the local Ac Transit and San Francisco's Muni also remember the Old Flyer Trolly Buses on Muni in San Francisco. Seeing this video of New york in the 90's makes me nostalgic reminds me of San Francisco and Oakland of the late 80's and 90's. Whats the artist and song name of the Song that plays at 13:00 MAN THAT'S A COOL SONG CATCHY TUNE.
I looked at the cassette and found that I had written the playlist from this 1997 web stream called Vik's Lounge. The name of the tune is Claudia in Motoretta - Roberto Pregadio
And that route is now the BxM6
What mta building was that and tell me what location is that is?
Wow I Didn't Know In 1998 they Still Using The GMC Fishbowl Buses as An
Express
PARKCHESTER IN 98 NO FUCKING WAY !!!!! that’s my hood god things was so different back then.
Near Zaros Bread Basket and 177 Street Station
Interesting to know that the RTS on the Bx36, #9514, is still in service today :)
That's a cool fact thanks for noticing. In 1981 there were still lots of green 1961 fishbowls still rattling around over potholes.
The New Look production from USA and Canada extends to 1986
22 yrs later ........ da expressway now a parkway, two rather dangerously accessible parks ( Starlight Park n West Farms Rapids Park ) n a BUNCH of residential developments😊🙃😊
Me n hubby both work for NYCTA I’ve been a RailRoad Clerk/Station Agent for 29yrs now n He’s been a Bus Operator for 24 yrs now💪🏽💪🏽We’ll b sayin bye ✌️ real soon 😎
Also two fareboxes, in front one from MTA with the Metrocard and coins, the other one for dollar bills
Bx36 Parkchester Vía Pugsley Ave. to George Washington Bridge
Man, do I miss u fishbowls with that AT>
33:45 Them dance moves tho
I can't believe this was 1998.
The NYBS fleet hubodometers are on left rear tire
Loved the video! When the music kicked in, not so much.
Roy Rogers!!!
Great video. The engines are 6V92T and the model is S8H5308A. These were available with 6 or 8 cylinder engines
Exit Door light, not usual on suburban units
can you get a footage of Yonkers ny in the early 1990's
All that shaking and rattling really does lull you to sleep when you are on the bus.
👍
Back then They Had The MCI older models and Also the RTS
I have seen different nyc private line bus such as new york bus service, liberty lines,queens surface, and especially a jamaica bus at 1:25, and i never saw not even one green bus line, triboro coach or even a command bus and it is rush hour.
OOPS! i was wrong, i did see a command bus at 00:27 and 1:09
That was a Command Classic @ 00:27 & @ 1:09
At 1:30 a Parade of Shoes store Summer Sale sandals ad
New York Bus ordered these with the 6 cylinder turbo charged engines with the Allison V730 transmission. Even though the bus model says 8 in it, most carriers spec'd out the turbo 92 because of better mileage.
I was just 2 years old.
Now thats what im talking about! Buses from the olskool :-D
lindo cuando Nueva York era Nueva York
There's a way to convert the camcorder footage to true 60fps, if you're interested, i'll tell you how.
I wonder how that operator is doing now
I watched at 1.5 speed-more interesting that way.
queens surface bus at 3:45 and 10:35
at 3:45 queens surface
like bus
I'm sorry what did you say?
Yes just look around my channel.
If you look closely at 34:22 you see an Asian lady wearing a white shirt and a black skirt crossing the street and pause at 35:31, you see the same Asian lady standing on the left hand side on the train platform.
Good catch. Totally different broad, unless she's a flying nun.
@@trainluvr It is the same person.
@@rknine7998 pants are different. She would have had to turn around and follow me onto the 6 then express from 125 just to wait for the same train- at 6 PM after she was spotted walking away from the Parkchester Station.
REAL OLD SCHOOL Conductor in the End on the s/b 6... THIORTY THIORD
31:52 Black & Asian couple
More like Dominican or Puerto Rican & Asian couple
You got any more W.H. R29-36 videos on the 6 by any chance if u do can u please upload it thanks ALSO NICE VIDEOS
Funny you should ask, as I am preparing to upload some Hi-8s soon, and one is of what you ask for.
My Father worked for Queens Transit and he later retired from Queens Surface
I wish I invest in stocks like apple. Facebook, Amazon, tesla, etc etc lol back then
There was no such thing as Facebook and Tesla back then in Amazon didn't go public until 2000