Cyberpunk 2077 Patch 1.2 Analysis: Good News For PS4 Pro... But What About Other Consoles?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
- Join Tom Morgan for the definitive breakdown for Cyberpunk 2077 on all of the last generation consoles. Xbox One, PS4, Xbox One X and PS4 4 Pro are all extensively tested and re-tested, with the 1.2 code compared to the last 1.1 milestone. The result? CD Projekt RED has optimised - and there are improvements, especially with PlayStation 4 Pro. But with the other systems, there's still much more work required.
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I’ve gotten dozens of hours of entertainment from this game and I’ve never even played it.
This is the funniest game i've ever not played
@Esuard Leder you mean 2022 summer sale?
In before the guy saying "well i played on my 2000$ PC and it works fine i don't see the issue"
@@amokana lol this guy 😂
@@amokana Bruh, even on a good PC, this game is a buggy pos. I've played it on PC.
Looks like they just want to mainly fix ps4/pro version so they can put it back on the PS store and start selling it again
Of course
Exactly. Once, the main bugs are fixed. They’re out.
Yep, seems like that's their main focus
Not really, it just happens that the ps4 versions are running better than the XBox versions. Same patches and fixes, just for whatever reason it seems the XBox one and one x somehow can't run it as well which is surprising since the x is more powerful than the pro. Cdpr fucked up big-time with last gen release. Hopefully current gen release will fair better.
@@jerryskid420 business makes business decision shocker. More at 11.
I love how you use the term "streaming optimizations" for "stuff doesn't load"
This is digital foundry who somehow live in another dimension where this isn't the most buggy broken game of all time and the PC version runs of magical code that is nothing like what the console versions run on.
@@RoyBrown777 it's CPU bound, of course the hilariously stronger (and more expensive) PC CPU works better.
@@SimonBuchanNz Series X also works much better. But the game still feels like it has performance problems, in my experience. And it was (I haven't played it since January) also glitchy on the much more powerful SX CPU.
This game should not have been released for the last-gen systems. But that's where 160+ million console owners are, so...
@@RoyBrown777 Their dimension is 'spin'.
On the other hand, Tom got all over the performance of RE3 Remake last year for One X, and his demand that the game run at 60 FPS led to the game being downgraded massively as far as resolution.
There doesn't seem to be any consideration for assets, streaming or overall resolution in Tom's videos.
In this video, the Pro grabs a couple more frames -- depending on scene -- while ending up with a notable escalation in asset pop-in (or simply asset loss).
Yet Tom acts as if that is a clear "win".
Borderline myopic in my opinion.
Nonetheless, this game is likely never going to reach a level where it has a stable mix of FPS and assets. Not on PS4/One and their Jaguar CPUs.
Game's decent on Series X but still felt shaky in spots (back in January; haven't played it since).
When life gives you lemons, and all that you know. :(
“The game runs slow when loading assets.” CDPR: “Well... just don’t load those assets?”
I would like to see Digital Foundry try adding a SSD to see if it improves the texture popping. Still might be a CPU bottle neck but could also improve the texture popping and scene loading.
Hater
@@changsiah2 shill
@@ShinyMooTank I played it on a pc with HDD. Never had these issues. And also tried it on my SSD and the only difference was in loading screens. And it doesn't even matter. If the game was running in 60 fps on a base ps4 it would only help people to faster realize how shity the game itself is. People should just move on.
@@The_StrangeMan what
CP is the ultimate case study as to why you should never overhype games and to keep your expectations in-check.
Nah it's the ultimate case study on what you should not do as a game development company
@@RomeHam yeah I think even with the expectations of a typical game this is unacceptable.
People still won't learn. For everyone else there's r/patientgamer
its the ultimate case study for greed, there are aspects of this game that are phenomenal. The art design to the character models (when it loads) are fuckin epic. The overall design of the game is truly amazing from cars to highly detailed guns and interiors. If they delayed this game for a year and half i am sure this game wouldve been great but no they wanted to cash in the pandemic lockdown christmas monies
Frankly they lied. This wasn’t overhype. It was misleading marketing. People constantly asked how base consoles would run the game, they said it would be fine.
I still can't believe this game went gold a few months before the disaster...
They struck "gold" from the Xbox and Stadia deals alright
I actually wonder if it ran better prior to completion, but then the patches made it worse up to release? I've been wondering myself, but that's just a theory.
@@everrsor Wow, a current gen console like Series X runs fine compared to a last gen console like Xbox One!? Who would've thought?...
It didn't. The execs lied, devs were furious with them. Look it up.
hater
I see they're focusing on the PS4 in hopes of getting back on the PS store lol
I hope it never comes back, will be a very strong lesson to other devs who release incomplete games just to fix it later and win awards.
Yeah, biggest install base, plus it runs decently on PS5.
It doesn’t deserve to return. They fixed almost nothing for the base PS4. CDPR deserve nothing other than shit for this.
@@carpetfluff35 decently? Shit crashed on me more after patch 1.1 than it did before
@@splashydiamond this isn't about releasing incomplete games, it's about CDPR tucking with Sony by saying that they would refund it without asking Sony and by saying that they skipped certification, Sony then fucked them extra hard.
This is a lesson for publishers to not fuck with Sony.
I was wondering why it was dark outside today. Turns out the skybox just didn't load in yet.
lies
@@changsiah2 Yes..it's true. The skybox STILL hasn't loaded in. I'm getting amazing performance, though, so it's fine.
I still love how people talk like this game wasn't intended to run on a ps4 and xbone, despite being announced in 2013.
2012
Not saying the game shouldn't run on PS4 but what does the announcement date have to do with on what system it runs when the game releases? They didn't even start developing until 2016.
@@tripnils7535 the ps5 and xbox series x diddnt release till 2020. Its to point out that they knew exactly the specs they had to work with and couldnt. Because people like to say the game is held back by the ps4 and xbone versions, when it was developed with those versions in mind. Not the ps5 or the series x. Other games can do, and have surpassed what cyberpunk wanted to do on those now older consoles.
I just like to laugh at people who make excuses for a shitty companies broken game because they made a game they never played a part of their identity before it even came out.
Also a growing pre production should have been working on it since before it was announced. So thats why announcement date is relevant.
@@gojira4444 well apparently cdpr were making the game with pc in mind first off. so they were basically building the game at the highest graphical settings, then they scaled down for the consoles later on. Which in my mind is definitely a horrible way to make a video game lol. So now its hard to fix the game on consoles because they basically have to fix everything to get it to run right.
I think CP is trying to do things which are way too much for last gen consoles to handle,vertical details, dense citiy, crowded with people, ultra realistic graphics, wall running, parkour,flying cars ,(if cdpr plans to make these features possible)then do you think all this shit can run on ps4 pr pro or x , hell no , I think all what they can do is work on the game, relese the orginal game for next gen consoles and pc and just release a downgraded version for last gen consoles
still can't wrap my head around how hard cd project dropped the ball on this one
They probably focus on ps4 so it can come back to their store
It's still a mess on PS4. I'm playing on PS4 Pro and it gets a graphical downgrade after 1.2.
@@V_1.0 I think improvements were made for indoor areas, pictures and other objects that didn't render at all previously and characters. But the City look more washed up when your driving, probably to help framerate.
I hope Sony never get back this gargabe online
@@johnbishop2536 exactly. And the global illumination have been changed too.
@@noobdebusca1757 I have the Blu-ray media of game. I can retore the day one version. It's look better in PS 4 Pro than 1.2 version. The graphical downgrade is a mess. Ridiculous. RIP CDPR !
The One S is beyond saving
like og ps4
@@diddymies base PS4 runs better
Imagine the One non S
🤣🤣🤣
It was messed from the start. Too bad there were folks who bought this instead of the Ps4 and sacrificed power, exclusives and VR.
Ah yes, lets increase the frame rate by just not loading things! Brilliant!
Pretty much.
This is a genuine answer when you have a bottleneck , you have to lessen the CPU usage. The things are loaded , just later ..
This is called culling, right?
Well.. I mean how else can you make it run better? Disable effects, objects etc. Recreating new lower quality models or other things seem like too much of an effort, and it would probably need serious reworking of the whole game, and it would take forever.
Again, this is what happens when you try to make things run on systems that just can't handle them. You will either have to render a really compromised version of the game to get good performance or if not it will run like crap.
or use magic
9:30 They removed the lighting so you can't see the game. Genius!
Graphics problem, be gone!
Soooo... Now we not only have a empty city but also no furniture, light and Details. Great Update
“Sex teen thyme the ‘D’ tail.” Hodd Toward
DF is still gonna be checking 2077's performance on the base xbox 5 years from now.... I swear
10 years later AND still checking performance of craphestda games on ps5 so yeah...
😂
with "Is it fixed yet?" in the title
5 years development, 2 years of patching.
Hi 😃
More like 2 years if development and 5 years of patching
3 yrs of development, God knows how many years of patching
Biggest misconception. Ppl don’t realize the game was 9 years of marketing. 2 years of actual work lol
100 years of patching
I can't wait to play this game in 5 years
now its a dark city instead of night city XDD
“I expect nothing & I’m still let down”.
dont see why when you did get an improvement
@@clownavenger0 The frame rate improving but assets now taking longer to load in is not what I’d personally consider an improvement.
@Anonymous Panacea I already have a PS5 but that doesn’t stop this from being a disappointment especially for people who don’t have a suitable PC or next gen console.
@@SaberYT longer? Did you forget what it was?
@@clownavenger0 The comparisons in the video clearly shows that some assets in 1.2 take longer than in 1.1.
This game will become next Rise of Tomb Raider on this channel. I expect 5 or more videos about CP2077...
They haven't even released the proper next gen versions of the game yet, or potentially the multiplayer if that ever happens. Possibly 10 videos?
@@thelegend-e7919 yeah you're right... also if expansion or two will came out, we can expect 10 or more videos,lol
Cyberpunk 2077 will never be like RDR2. In fact, NMS and Cyberpunk are totally different games, their might be no redemption
They've already made 11 videos about Cyberpunk...
@@thelegend-e7919 the multiplayer is cancelled
When your patch is as big as a full retail game, you know your game is fucked up
O COD felt that one.
Nothing on Earth can make me buy this game on the ps4. The patch alone is bigger than the 100gb ps5 blue ray disc. Rubbish game.
And it's far from fixed with that patch.
@@lfcobrikom5612 Can always buy it on PS4 and wait until you get a PS5
you mean released before it was done. a 500 bullet point patch notes list is great. But it means the game was not finished in December 2020.
"Is PS4 Pro easy to recommend as a entry-level 30FPS experience?"
*_NPC degrading into sub-PS1 graphics_*
The timing couldn't have been worse lmao
"sub-PS1 graphics" LIAR
I also loved how he said the base PS4 version isn't much better while driving through an unrendered vending machine.
Its kinda sad for real. I was hoping to see this game get better but I guess everybody was right that this just isn't a game for last gen consoles.
Nothing is further from reality. Believe it or not, the game was created with the PS4 / Pro xBO / X generation in mind, and windows PC of course.. In fact, there are no native PS5 and xBSx versions, but patches on previous generation versions and little else.
"Cyberpunk 2077 was announced in May 2012. Trailers for the game were released in January 2013,[102] at E3 2018,[103] and at E3 2019. The game was initially confirmed for Microsoft Windows, with PlayStation 4 and Xbox One announced at E3 2018."
On the other hand PS4 / Pro xBO / X do not understand nervous shareholders of the unsolvent and pretentious CyberPoroject whose biggest fail was to launch the base version of PS4 without optimizing with more than 100 million potential buyers. The rest is history.
Not to mention the corrugated press "specialized" in penalizing Days Gone (a game of 9), for its initial bugs, and instead initially rewarding Cyberbugs2077 with 10s and 9s. A game released completely BROKEN on each and every system, including PC Windows.
PS4/Pro GOTYs God of War and The Last Of us II are soon forgotten. Two of the best games of the generation both playable, graphically and technically.
I wanna see Cyberpunk HDD vs SSD in the console. Will it improves texture popping or scene loading time. CPU still be a bottleneck but will there be any improvements at all
Watching this game is quite entertaining, ironically
hater
@@changsiah2 lick CD project boot, better yet give personal service to Badwoski
Time stamp dude wadup
@@changsiah2 i love the game, but it's objectively trash.
CDPR: Even the last gen consoles run pretty well now…
Everybody: Well…
Press X to doubt
End of generation consoles always end up like this
The well in question:
No no no, they said: "It ran surprisingly well!". 🙃
I used to think cyberpunk 2077 was a tragedy...but now I realize it's comedy
too late to realize that now
✈️✈️✈️
Honestly, besides the performance issues, it is an amazing game.
@Leina Tama idk, I thought the game was quite amazing. Maybe it's just the type of game I vibe with. I also played the game on a 3090 and never had a crash. So maybe that has something to do with it.
@@StatusQuo209 I didnt play the game but i watched Maximillian Dood play it on twitch for some time , and just like Max this game did not appeal to me at all , it felt pretty boring and empty with zero originality.
by patch 2.0 CP2077 will just be a 2d side scroller.
😂👌
they gotta lock that 30 fps down man, give them a break 😂
Hater
@@amnril you
@@changsiah2 what makes you say that? I just thought it was funny what he said. I love the game and can’t wait for the new console upgrade. I accept your incoming apology for getting it 100% wrong !!
"It is improved, but not by enough to call 1.2 any kind of success." Savage, but true.
Looks like someone forgot to pay the electric bill on 1.2.
So in summary... There's slight improvements but there's still lots of problem. Wait for the PS5 and XSX dedicated versions.
No this is the summary:
PS4 Pro = Much improved
PS4 = Slightly improved
Xbox One X = Slightly improved
Xbox One = No difference or marginal improvement
No patch in the world will fix the lackluster story and subpart side missions. This game is average at best even without the graphics issues and bugs
This game will not fit in the ps5 blue ray disc as the patches alone may exceed 100gb
@@amokana The side quest and main story are amazing what are you talking about
@@Jonatan606 All the versions are broken sub-optimal versions of the game seeing only a few negligible FPS improvements, so wouldn't concur at all.
Applied some Mr Sheen to polish a turd basically and it's only very slightly more shiny.
Looks like they finally released the Beta for this game
I can't wait until they release the full game! Honestly, the most promising early access game I've seen.
Still feels like pre-alpha build tbh
@@WalrusTash this comment is very honest!
Tbh it plays like every other $60 game that's been releasing in the past few years
i got the game on release but will hold off on a play though until I see that bugs are no more and performance is increased. still waiting for an 3070 so at least it will give CDPR a long time to fix.
Can't wait to play the full release in 2 years
For free with Ps plus or for $9.99 on a discount
In gamepass
Nah. Maybe 3 or 4 years
I give it 1 year until CDPR give up completely on this game and try to make a new game to try to save face
@@pulseofme4949 i'm pretty sure development on at least one new game has already started. They can't just pump out a new game at a moments notice. CDPR has a 4 year development cycle. And for Cyberpunk even that wasn't enough
I think the 2077 is the year they're planning to get this game fixed.
That's very optimistic thinking of you.
“The sky above the port was the color of a sky box texture still loading in.” - William Gibson, Neuromancer
Nice reference !
What’s sad is that PS4 Pro now has removed props and NPCs in some areas of the world, making Cyberpunk look even more lifeless than it already is. Also, the lighting change genuinely disgusts me in the new patch. It’s like Night City got a complete power outage.
Its a really odd choice. Surely they could have made the game look worse but kept the lighting and in turn improved the frame-rate. At the moment its a weird middle-ground where it doesnt look gtreat but also doesn't perform great either. I'm grateful I've had a better experience on PS5 but I know not everyone is able to get one or even wants one right now.
@R T PS5 here. This game is still lifeless trash. It's just not fun tbh. Still a ton of bugs, bad physics, etc. Its times like this that I regret even getting a PS5 so early.
PS4 Pro here too @Silver and R T I agree, NC looks worse now, there really is no reason for me to return to this game. I am over CP77. Such a shame.
@R T yup. In terms of sheer disappointment this shit is right up there with season 8 of Game of Thrones.... like holy shit what a letdown....
Even on my high end pc with plenty of npcs this game is still lifeless and soulless cant believe this company made the witcher 3
Wait... lighting is completely broken, assets are missing and textures are failing to load... and you're chalking it up as a positive because the FPS is now a couple frames higher? Can I please have some of what you're smoking?
Thank you! I was looking at the differences like... Uhm..
He is far from normal in his head.
Cant wait to buy this game for PS5 for like 15 bucks a few years from now
Haha I'll give it another 8 months or so
@@Condamine123456 it won't be fixed until then though
that's what i'll be doing too. In 2 years from now i'll be buying the complete edition of this game with all the expansions included for like 15-20 bucks, and hopefully the game will be patched/fixed by then.
@@filipesantos5361 exacto
You mean this black friday?
This game went from “it’ll be fixed after the day one patch” to “I’ll wait a couple weeks to play it” to “I’ll wait a few months to play it” to “I’ll play it when it’s on sale for $19.99 with all the DLCs for free in a couple years”
Couple years? It's already been on sale for 30 bucks and it's only been out for 4 months. By 6 months it'll probably be 20 bucks.
Played it on pc and payed 60 bucks no regrets it was great on pc
@@switchdeck9164, lol, shit standards are shit.
@@MrTormentor89 😂
in my country physical edition for ps4 is everywhere 20$ lol
They really should have waited at least until late 2021 to release this
That's not possible with all the people crying.
last gen dinosaur consoles can't run this game. so just dont release it on those consoles.
@@Matt-bg5wg people would then cry that cd project got sponsored by Sony and Microsoft to force users to buy their new consoles 😂😂😂
@@Matt-bg5wg They promised so they had to deliver, if it didn't work out it's entirely their fault. To be honest it looks they can optimize it to run well enough on these consoles, if you take in account that what is basically an early access they released already runs as it does.
@@floppyD Games get cancelled all the time....
CP2077 is actually designed so intelligently. Making the game impossible to run to cover the bad gameplay is genius
To cover the lieesssss
It's a blessing in disguiseeeee
I stated this game on a high end pc and I clicked on the map and there were markers everywhere with no explanation.. this game was lazy and phoned in.. Gerralt is mad
It'll be 2077 before this games stable
Original
So 2077 is a reference to either the game being finished or when that zebra crossing finally renders on PS4 Pro.
No wonder why Sony won't let this piece of crap in their store.
@@Aristowi I bought it in day one to play on my PS5 and got a refund about 5 hours in.
2077 is the amount of patches we will need
😂😂
Hope you like playing the opening of this game Tom as you will be playing it forever testing the endless patches for it.
Maybe they could put the names of everyone who bought it at launch in the credits as beta testers when it’s patched again.
Lmaoo
This is so f*cking sad. I was soooo hyped. And now this 50$ game only lay on my shelf unfinished. Damn CDPR you guys were the chosen ones.
@Garrus Vakarian lol, this game is still bad in terms of gameplay, story, attention to detail, gameplay mechanics, ragdoll physics, character interaction and the worst part of it all are the glitches that won't let you play through a mission
@@ishan_karma2794 blablabla. Plays like a dream on series x in quality mode and it was hell a fun. Only wish it was longer
Only in your imagination...
@@drunkensailor112 I enjoyed it on pc. Story was a ton of fun. But the city is boring
What the "next generation" has been so far: older games running better on newer consoles, Cyberpunk patches, and a remake of an 11 years old game.
?
Yeah, console gamers finally got to experience a GPU/CPU upgrade that PC users have been experiencing for decades.
I hope Returnal delivers this month
Yep. I don't see a good reason to purchase a PS5 or Series X right now.
Yup, and the pandemic has delayed "next-gen" games even further
They should have never put them games on last gen
Unless CP2077 was a 2021 or beyond release it was always going to be on last gen consoles.
@@Dangerman-zg3ui they knew beforehand how demanding the game was and the base PS4 and Xbox One was running on 2011 mid tier gaming PC equivalent system ,
I’d give AMD FX 6300 + AMD 7950 as a comparison to measure the horsepower of the base PS4 / Xbox 1. No way this hardware can run cyberpunk at 1080P 60FPS. It will run at 1080P 30FPS with low to medium settings at best.
MGS : TPP ran at 60FPS with roughly medium settings because the world was very empty.
Tbh this game looks no worse than GTAV on PS3 at this point, on the PS4 pro, and considering how long the last generation was, it makes sense as well.
I think it's passable at this point.
This has nothing to do with hardware limitations , the PC version is proof enough so lets call it what it is , CD Project screwed it up period.
@@reviewrustyitalianasscrack9996 It's pretty obvious that they screwed it up. I don't think that even needs to be said anymore. But the hardware is objectively a limitation. No open world game of this scale would have been able to run this well on the last gen. They did lie about it. They lied about a lot more than just the performance on consoles. But at this point, i just cut my losses at 4 hours played, and am just going to go finish Ghosts of Tsushima lol.
How to increase frames of your game: remove some details of textures, fucking genius
That's a legit solution, all things considered
Their methods are beyond us mere mortals
What would you do to help performance?
They should just allow the game to render the low poly NPC's permanently, that way i can laugh instead of crying at how bad the game plays. That may even increase the frames to 60fps on base ps4.😂
@@Scorpwind umm, i don't know, maybe take a few notes from Grand theft Auto 5 from back in 2013???. I mean, if Rockstar did it, why couldn't cd projekt?
It’s kind of amazing how both Bethesda and CDPR (two companies that were quite heavily respected among the gaming communities) could absolutely thrash their reputations with a single game release.
Well Bethesda kinda went down hill gradually with Fallout 4 and the 76. CRPD jumped off a cliff with Cyberpunk.
Honestly the amount of respect and faith that was put in CDPR was sort of ridiculous. They've made only one good videogame and even that launched with several problems and has very mediocre clunky gameplay. Companies like Bethesda and bioware had several years and multiple incredible games to their name before sadly ruining their reputations gradually over time. The fact that CDPR after 1 good game was put on the same pedestal as companies like rockstar and naughty dog who have excellent track records over several decades and multiple GOTYs to their names was always kind of crazy to me.
@@nomercy8989 nice analogy, but wtf, fallout 4 was amazing, they went downhill with other shit but that game was cool didnt live up to the expectaction but those were put in place but gamers in the first place, mostly because of fallout 3 and NV
This game has finally killed any chance of me pre-ordering any game in the future. I officially have no hope left for the gaming industry.
So you wouldn't pre-order anything anymore?
It's a good news actually! :-)
Good plan. Pre-ordering has always been for chumps since games went to digital delivery.
Except resident evil village.. Now that’s a game I’m going to preorder
Downgrad to save framerate, that's all they can do to optimise the game?
Pretty much.. downgrade the game so the system can run it.. old hardware doesn't get better with time..
Lack of ssd on old gen is the main reason
well, downgrade is most common thing for optimising games. especially when they focusing on consoles instead of pc.
witcher 3 was downgraded cus console focus, and 2077 wasnt downgraded cus pc focus
would be interesting to compare pc graphics 1.0 of 2077 to last patch
They broke the game developer ABC: if you develop a game for multiple consoles, develop the game for the weakest one, then add on that for the better versions. It's clear CDPR did the opposite, they developed Cyberpunk for next gen and now they're trying to make it fit for old gen by downgrading it, except you can downgrade a game til a certain point.
@@giovannibrena3913 yep, this is pretty much what they did. Aimed for next gen consoles ideally, PS4 pro/One X for last gen at worst, and then completely forgot about the base consoles. I play on PC and I’m still experiencing the odd issue, but it’s perfect compared to consoles.
WE ALL need to stop buying these games at release. Teach these companies to FINISH THE PRODUCT. It really is easy to fool us with hype leading up to release; we buy it, then, we are too lazy to return it. They are laughing all the way to the bank. And yes I'm looking at myself in the mirror while saying this.
Hype? It was straight up false advertising with their 2018 gameplay demo, which is still up on their youtube channel btw. No Man's Sky was all hype because the game was shrouded in mystery right until launch. So it was pure hype and vague promises from Sean Murray that got people on the hype train and buy the game. CDPR straight lied telling us that "this is how the game is going to be" and the final game was not even close to what was promised.
But I overall agree with your message. Wait for 2-3 days after the game is out and reviewed. In a world of digital downloads, there is absolutely no point in pre-orders.
i preorder certian games after i see it and done a tone of youtube videos.
that is what promote me to pre order scarlet nexus that comes out on june 25th
I refunded my game. Bought it on GOG.
I love preordering. Better than funding a Kickstarter
Cdpr said on the deno multiple times that that demo was a work in progress and not everything would make it into the game. I can only name two things in that demo that arent in the game.
By my calculations, the "playable" game will arrive in a 2terabyte package
just dont ask the size of the "enojoyable" version
Its so sad that they didnt delay it to 2021.
They needed at least another 3 years to make it acceptable. And I'm not even talking about glitches or bugs. Got my money back. POS.
2022 AT LEAST
best performance at the cost of a now darker world with way less affects.
Got a better idea? 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@propersod2390 yes, to ignore You. pitiful fanboy
@@XcN3Retrogameplays Wow you really answered my question there. Guess getting rid of extra effects is the only way to improve performance of games on older machines 🤡🤡🤡🤡
At 1:00 you don't even need to shoot. The game is 100% fixed so the van will always crash in the same place. "Next generation of open-world immersion" lol.
Yeah but if you don't shoot then you will die. At least on highest difficulty.
@@LukeR1M not sure about the highest difficulty, but it's pathetic nonetheless
Will you do a video on Series X and PS5?
That was gonna be my question as well.
For PS5 I can tell you it definitely crashes more often now after 1.2...
For ps5 and series x just wait on the full next gen version. No need for digital foundry to put more resources in this garbage
So they remove a bunch of lights and objects ?
That's what it seems like on the PS4 Pro. Those scenes of driving and shoot outs look so dark it's pathetic it's considered an 'improvement' on the PS4 Pro.
@@Cxs1a3 better than massive controversy. Delays didnt hamper breath of the wilds success
@@Cxs1a3 Very true, but ultimately it was all about the money. There's a LOT of last gen Playstation and Xbox units floating around, that's a huge cash cow that CD Projekt Red simply couldn't bypass. And in the end their gamble paid off. Even counting in refunds, CD Projekt Red set records for digital sales.
lol, they couldn't spend the time on heavily optimizing the game so they said "you know how we can fix the framerate and loading fast?..... Let's take out the lighting system, let's stop certain things from loading at all, let's remove a few more things from the graphical engine".
Yeah. I'd take the FPS even if it means loosing quality. Kind of a bandaid approach but I would hate to play anything sub 30fps even with motion blur
Does replacing the hdd with a ssd have any effect on pop-in on either ps4 pro or Xbox one x? Or is this all cpu limited?
I have an SSD in my PS4 Pro and it doesn't make a difference, only slightly faster loading times on your saves.
I played on xbox one x with a ssd, the most persistent issues I had were crashing and low fps
Digital foundry videos are the only videos I don't mind commentary on RUclips
Cdpr: let's remove objects and call it a patch!
They should hire low spec gamer!
That's actually exactly what really needs to happen. The old consoles crappy Jaguar CPU's, are the main problem. They just need to trim out or cut back on any unnecessary and useless in-game assets and clutter. Things like neon lights, bushes, trashcans, barstools, grass, trees ect,
It's not as if other companies like Rockstar or Bethesda for example, didn't/don't also do the same cutbacks when it comes to open world games, on the last gen consoles, compared to PC or the new gen.
@The Last Carolingian in Kartvelia Yep, they are now backed in a corner. They have a game full of assets, that really needs reducing in order to gain fps. However if they cut them back, they know that the old gen console gamers will be up in arms yet again. This time about how they've are now taking 'stuff' away. The same will be true, if they cut back drastically on texture detail or even worse dial back the resolution. The best they can hope for, is that hell of a lot of minor, but widespread tweaks. They might just hopefully gain enough to manage a fairly stable 30fps, without losing too much in the way of assets or graphical fidelity.
One thing is for sure, they've learned a lesson not to rush a game and not to try and overdo things.
@The Last Carolingian in Kartvelia think about it that’s what developers do to the switch versions of games all the time so why’s it suddenly a bad thing to do
@@fafski1199 , the biggest hit to CPU in open world games (or any other genre) is the skeleton animation and related physics with the terrain and destructible object, whereas the GPU is mostly hit by calculations of shadow and reflections. The regular Xbox One and PS4 could push a huge amount of geometry, but they are fairly weak in terms of calculations of animations and physics. Lets not forget that the CPU of PS3 was slightly more powerful than the weak Jaguar CPU of PS4. Also, only a very few games on Xbox One utilize its additional very fast memory - the 32MB ESRAM. That's because the developers are lazy and usually develop their games to run nice on PS4, and then they cut the resolution to port it on Xbox One without using its advantages over PS4: ESRAM and faster CPU. This is a totally wrong approach.
A wise solution would be to preserve the geometry but reduce the quality of the shadows. This could easily give them 5-10 frames per second boost in performance. The geometry of a few trash can bins, signs, street chairs and fences does nearly zero impact on the performance. It's the shadows and reflections on them that cause the hit, so these effect should be reduced to their minumum settings for those basic objects. That's for the GPU.
As for the CPU optimization, all the NPC's in the game should be adjusted to use as few bones as possible for their animations. This means that every random NPC on the street which is not part of the main story should not have animated fingers, because they account for 30 extra animated bones. A game character who does not move his or her fingers usually has just 20 bones total. With moving fingers on both hands the number of bones that use skeletal animations jumps to 50, which is 150% increase of processing requirements.
CDPR also has serious issues with their game engine, which is unable to properly sort the Level of detail (LOD) of all objects in the visible portion of the screen. This is why you can easily see in the game certain characters or non-moving objects having their rough low detailed model at close distance, whereas other NPS' or objects at a bit longer distance are properly rendered with their higher LOD.
It's interesting to think that CDPR must internally be prioritising which platforms to address first, most likely based on player base size as that approach benefits the most people. I'd love to know what the ordering looks like
I think they prioritize the PS to get back to the store asap...
@@franzusgutlus54 lol fair point, that's gotta be a massive factor all the time it's unlisted
@@franzusgutlus54 which is dumb af, since they should prioritize the weakest hardware (Xbox One) so more powerful systems get better
Lets hope those hackers finally release the source code for the game so that the community can fix their game for them.
This isn't Bethesda (they are trying to fix anything whatsoever, after all). I'm pretty CDPR will do what they can, but I think the bigger issue is they promised a game on consoles that just can't handle it.
Pretty sure the hackers sold it back to CDPR. It remains to be seen whether they will honor the deal of not leaking it anyway.
4:22 Maybe it's just me but seeing those city streets being lit very minimally like on 1.2 just made it a hell of a lot more atmospheric.
If I had to choose, I'd rather temporary freezes rather than full blown crashes.
Sad but true
I’d choose none, and go for greater companies like Rockstar 🙂
@@The_StrangeMan Yes, RockStar shill spoted, spend more on those shark cards.
@@A7XKoRnRocks1 I don’t even play GTAO anymore, but keep the L for yourselves. Go back to sleep samurai, the city hasn’t rendered.
How about choosing a finished product?
1.2, turn off lights to gain fps
1.3, turn off npc to gain even more fps
1.4, turn off world, success! 120fps!
honestly should just ditch last gen and refund everyone on those platforms since the cpus just can't handle it. it's waste of time for both devs and players.
1.5, cancel the game, go to real life for 32K 1000FPS
Great work DF appreciate all you do thank you so much.
Thanks for holding CD Projekt Red accountable!!
Why are you shouting?
So the game finally came out of alpha and now we're in beta. See you guys in 2023 when it is finished.
we'll get there by 2077*
Stop being so optimistic. ETA, 2033.
They might ditch this game and go for witcher 4 instead for ez money
Nice, another trip to Thomas' Café.
The music in this game is so damn good
Ain't that the truth.
Happy Easter guys
You too!
This game was announced when PS4/XB1 didn't even come out and (apparently) started active development before PS4 Pro came out. They claimed that the gameplay demo ran on a GTX 1080Ti at 4K and locked 30fps.
WHAT WERE THEY DOING?
Cant wait for this game to get out of Early Access towards the end of 2022
looolllll :D
You're pretty optimistic.
Early Access?!. This thing is still in its beta phase.
I managed to get a 3070 for msrp and finally got to play the game. Its really crazy to see the difference between the two platforms
Just played Crysis 3 (2013) on PC with Xbox Gamepass. What a beautiful and amazing looking game ! Even almost 8 years later the 2021 games looks inferior to Crysis 3. Shame that game reviewers gave it poor rating.
The ps4 pro running better than its 20% more powerful counterpart really shows the sheer amount of laziness received from CDPR. There is actually no reason for that to ever happen.
The Xbox one x runs at a higher resolution and graphics settings so that's why. They could reduce the graphics quality or resolution but I don't think this is what they would want to do.
@@frozenskelly2702 techincally they do want that. Pretty sure people prefer less resolution but better framerate, but the problem isn't resolution, it's mostly a cpu issue since it dips when there's nany objects on screen.
@@frozenskelly2702 The Pro was smoother even before they downgraded the asset streaming in this patch. It's mainly the higher resolution on X causing dips. 1440p is a little too high for One X in this game
@@majdsaadems Agreed, just lowering resolution puts more strain on the CPU, they would realistically need to change the quality/amount of assets and/or effects and systems such as AI, physics and particles.
@@gamerZANZUS They should completely remove dynamic scaling and make the resolution FIXED!
There is way too much happening in the background of the engine and dynamic scaling completely wreck everything up for old console generation!
At least I believe so!
Reinstalling in 2 years when it's out of EA
wait a little longer for the remastered version lol
ea has some fun games. like the need for speed games and star wars bf 2.
I have lost all interest in this game. It will never match up to the gameplay demo that was shown in 2018 and its not like they can go and change story missions now to have better and branching dialogues. This is not going to be Witcher 3 which, might I add, had technical issues on launch as well. But there was a great underlying game to salvage. Unlike here.
@@凛さづき When it is out of (E)arly (A)ccess lol
@@PurushNahiMahaPurush Of course it won't be like the 2018 demo. Because that was just a DEMO.
That 60fps ps4 menu tho..... 👀
0:57 this is the best expression of cyberpunk 2077... LMFAO
I'm curious how does a pc handle this from ps4/Xbox one era?
Just wait 7 years for a remake on the PS6. Simple.
Such a shame that they have to focus on last gen instead of delaying the game and announcing it as exclusively current gen.
They've missed the boat by a mile if they ever want to make it exclusively current gen. They're already in legal trouble now, and they made most of their money off last gen sales of this game...
@@michaelsteffensen6844 exactly! They’ve created so much debt for themselves in their focus on current gen they would have been better off dealing with cancelled preorders.
The Game that can't be finished.
Literally.
Yeah it can. All games are like this at some stage, they just aren’t publicly playable like Cyberpunk is.
@@najib9093 The will keep feeding you crap because you keep eating it. stop buying these half baked broken cash grabs.
Star citizen would like a word
@@splinterborn I didn’t buy or preorder anything. I always wait for games to be cheap and fully completed.
Just talking facts, this is standard beta form of the game and in 2022, it should be complete because that’s when devs initially expected it to release.
I'd rather a slightly lower framerate than removing the window light sources in the cyberwear trafficers' hideout at the start of the game. It looks awful without the window lighting. I'm really glad I already played most of the game and got to experience it with full lighting prior to this patch.
The game was already more or less fine performance-wise on PS4 Pro, what they really need to fix is the damn crashes, not make the game look noticeably worse in exchange for a 5FPS increase, or at least offer the option to priorities graphical quality and detail or framerate.
Watching a video like this helps make sure I don't take my luck for granted. I was fortunate enough to nab a Series X at launch, which meant I got to play this game at 60fps on console and actually enjoy the experience. I would be so frustrated if I had tried to play this on my base XB1 or PS4, wait for months for a fix, and still had a poor framerate.
"I have a bad feeling about this."
I have a SSD in my ps4 pro. That makes a huge difference in games like this. Even texture load in is much better in all games
I'm surprised they didn't think of this and test that variable out. It does make a very noticeable difference, good call.
@@brettlivingston595 They have shown in the past how SSD's do help. Even as far back as Fallout 4 on Xbox One and Skyrim and Rage. Suprised they havnt tried it on this yet.
Honestly ps4 pro with a cheap SSD ( $50 for a 500gb or $90 for 1TB) is a game changer. The overall gameplay is night and day and nearly PS5 like smoothness in its current state. Considering how PS5 is still so hard to get, if you are short on funds I highly recommend this! Im a big COD player and I went from bad frame rate and horrible texture pop in to no delay textures and much smoother gameplay
Oh and I had a PS5 I ended up selling due to lack of games, and just rocking the SSD PS4 Pro
Damn, that system menu is SMOOTH, though! 😂🤣
"It's like a high end PC". - Richard
Remember, the patch really hammers the glitches found in quests. Performance isn't there yet but it wasn't the true goal of this patch I feel, it was the mission specific bugs mostly
I pre-ordered this, but will only play it next year.
@@ILikeGoodMusic313 I had the illusion that it will be an even greater game than Witcher 3. Well, .....
CDPR: Here is a huge list of pointless changes we made. Look at how long it is!
Customers: But it's still just as broken as it was 4 months ago.
SHUT UP AND JUST LOOK AT IT !!!!
Should have never been announced for last gen consoles. Im tired of seeing game annoucements years ahead of time its better to surprise us with a annoucement and release it less than a year away
3:15 even the magazine doesn't load in time
2 more patches I'd say and maybe it becomes playable....Maybe.
Digital Foundry have you tested this with SSD on the console
I tested, work slightly better
@@Crit360 is pop in better?
More or less crashes?
And which SSD did you use?
I want to know this also. Wish they would test it. I use a Samsung 860 Evo 1TB. I should just try it out.
@@WllKiedSnake Do it if you can, I'm as curious as you what the results will be.
@@acemanyellow13 There are a few vids out before this patch showing a SSD does improve these things. Maybe people have tried it with this patch.
Conference call... "Hey guys what can we do to fix the pop in"... "Let's just not load the textures at all and there is no pop in" "Genius!" They need to cut their losses this game is beyond saving.
And turn the street lights completely off so the GPU doesn't have to render it, you forgot that bit.
Game really needed a delay this is sad lol
Game should have come on 2022 only for next gen
I love that they said it will come out "when it's ready" twice during teasers lol
The game needed to be fucking cancelled. They had nearly 10 years to make sure it worked. Another delay was never going to fix it. Delays rarely ever are actually used to make sure the game works at launch.
Nah, who’s gonna get in the dollaaaaas before Christmas?
@@The_StrangeMan late Nov 2021 or 2022 would've been smarter.
I expect the first thing was to get the game working better and a more dedicated performance patch will come later.
9:21 the actual caveat is that many of the objects on screen are loading so slowly that they aren't being rendered. That's why the frame rate is higher.
That’s so called streaming optimization. 🙈😂