Its because Toriyama didnt like drawing tails. So he came up with this bs excuse. I personally hate that Saiyans no longer have tails. It was a cool defining feature.
@@LegionIscariot yeah he should've at least kept it through the namek saga (grew it back in the healing chamber or while he was on life support on his way to friezas planet) it would've added more grist to the story and Frieza facing off with an oozaru would've made the battle with him more epic plus he didn't have think super Saiyan could be achieved without a tail like he explained in thought when Goku first got to namek
So wouldn't this automatically make GT officially non canon cause, even though Goku got wished to a smaller version of self, he ended up growing a tail again as if he was maturing all over again, but his strength still stayed the same?? How's that explained?
wait a second. vegeta's power level as a great ape was 180,000, so it means that he in his great ape form at the saiyan saga could mop the floor out of the ginyu force. So, I think dbz kakarot is right. but i heard this somewhere else that the tail can grow 3 times maximum for a saiyan when cut off. this explaination is right because goku's tail was removed 3 times by oolong, roshi and grandpa gohan.
@BaansuUchiha what yes it is. Goku used kaioken against vegeta (a 2x multiplier) and goku power was at 8,000 before kaioken. Meaning vegeta had to be above a power level of 1,600
@@DragonBallCode No it doesn't and just saying spouting random nonsense sure doesn't help. It IS a multiplier and the excuse was pathetic. It was literally nothing but an excuse. Animating tails moving around constantly is a hassle, end of story.
i have a doubt when zeno destroyed the universe 7 from the future and goku brought him to the past now there is still 10 universes in the future but no zeno to control them so anyone can go on a rampage and destroy universes in the future and do whatever they want they need not fear zeno anymore 🤯.....
WAIT BUT IF 17 BROUGHT BACK ALL THE UNIVERSE THEN HE BROUGHT BACK THE OTHER UNIVERSE THAT WERE ERASED!!!! BY ZENO AND ZENO CHOSE NOT TO ERASE THEM AGAIN AFTER THEY CAME BACK!!! AND THIS HAPPEND IN THE MANGA WE COULD BE SEING THIS IN THE NEW DBS MOVIE COMMING 2022!!
Can anyone please tell me how are all the villains like frieza and his men, cell, babadi, etcetera allowed to be in their physical form in afterlife???....... Wasn't only the people who dies for a greater good allowed to keep their bodies???
Maybe it always grows back, but he just cuts it off away from view. Same with all the other Saiyans since it's a fact that Toriyama didn't like drawing tails. We don't get to see Goku being intimate with Chi Chi too, but it happens lol
In GT, Bulma created a machine that lets Vegeta transform into a great ape without a tail, so Vegeta going super Saiyan 4 is because of the machine Bulma made and not because of him having his tail back.
Wait how did planet sarada or planet vegeta even SURVIVE, like every full moon, the entire planets population turns into great apes, if somebody is in a building look out the window, see the full moon, they just break down the entire housedont they?
This doesn't make sense vegetas power level jumping to 24000 is nowhere near his oozaru form a saiyan should have to lose 10% of their full power without their tails thats what i think and not be able to tap into their full potential as super Saiyans without one
So in Gohan's case if the tail does not grow back if the saiyan exceed the power of a great app does this mean that already Gohan at his youngest age already exceeded the power of a great ape cause we see his tail grow 2x from birth nd on Sai saga wen they wre battling Vegeta the it was nonore ? Plus if I can ask does not a great ape always be beyond the host individual as a saiyan that y it would be found that ever saiyan who transform into the ape get a multiply of his power 10x so nomatter how powerful a saiyan can be that great ape living inside them also growns in power beyond their normal state
It doesn't make sense Great ape transformation is basically a multiplier Doesn't matter what's your base level is, that transformation will give you 10x boost It would make sense to not grow a tail after attaining super saiyan transformation, making the great ape transformation useless, and thus not needed the tail to grow Which means vegeta and Gohan should have been able to grow up their tail back As Vegeta was in danger during namek saga and Gohan until the time chamber
Akira Toriyama would make any excuse to make the plot make sense. when it slowly doesn't at some points of the series. like how super form works than out of no where he says "S-cells and saiyans only have them if they're good guys" and yet Vegeta wasn't a full good guy at the time he had his super form. I think the s-cells activate if saiyans gets a Z boost. like a backup system rather what Tori's telling us. because that makes more sense rather "you have to be a good guy to have those cells." crap. the tail part didn't make sense. also on the fact in the past he said he didn't want a tail because of laziness. and his other excuse after that is trying to make Goku "human". U6 saiyans I let slide because all universes and worlds don't have the same rules and timelines. but THIS tails don't grow back just because they on a higher level? that's almost the same excuse of why he didn't want to keep drawing in goku's tail. and I just finish off this one youtuber saying that there tails are actually suppressing them.
I feel like that can't be cannon tho CUASE GT GOKU SUPASS GODS your tail can make u main tain a form that even when you havent mastered it thats where the tail gives you more of a power up!
imagine if vegeta was the last one standing at TOP...."i wish my tail back! and revenge on Yajirobe's hand that cut it! sever that hand from his body!"
To put it simply for those who never watched DB: As a Saiyan in their prime of youth, they will always grow their tails back. Once outside their youth (an adult) they will lose their ability to regrow their tails and basically get significantly “nerfed” in terms of capabilities. But at least they get that Zenkai boost everytime they get near 🪦
As of later in Z- Toriyama stated he disliked drawing tails so discontinued the presence of tails after Gohan became a teen, which he (would) have regrown it by then (as Goku was meant to regrow it before the final tournament in original DB but Kami permanently removed it for him by the age of 15-18 during his training). The “fan base” excuse of Hybrids not gaining tails because of their Earthling side is already inconsistent as Gohan (a hybrid Saiyan) had a tail since the very beginning but simply stopped being drawn and was decided to not be drawn for any Saiyans and hybrids later in the series including Trunks-Goten and now Pan.
![DragonBall Z Ultimate Tenkaichi Cutscene: Yajirobe Cuts off Great Ape Vegeta's Tail [720p HD]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Nwf2ILMosEA/mqdefault.jpg)
Its because Toriyama didnt like drawing tails. So he came up with this bs excuse.
I personally hate that Saiyans no longer have tails. It was a cool defining feature.
@@LegionIscariot yeah he should've at least kept it through the namek saga (grew it back in the healing chamber or while he was on life support on his way to friezas planet) it would've added more grist to the story and Frieza facing off with an oozaru would've made the battle with him more epic plus he didn't have think super Saiyan could be achieved without a tail like he explained in thought when Goku first got to namek
Freiza can keep his tail but the saiyans based off the monkey king can’t keep their tails that’s weak
I think Toriyama just forgot.
99% of plot holes
So wouldn't this automatically make GT officially non canon cause, even though Goku got wished to a smaller version of self, he ended up growing a tail again as if he was maturing all over again, but his strength still stayed the same?? How's that explained?
In GT, the kais gave Goku special training to grow a new tail so he can become a great ape, then become super saiyan 4.
wait a second. vegeta's power level as a great ape was 180,000, so it means that he in his great ape form at the saiyan saga could mop the floor out of the ginyu force. So, I think dbz kakarot is right. but i heard this somewhere else that the tail can grow 3 times maximum for a saiyan when cut off. this explaination is right because goku's tail was removed 3 times by oolong, roshi and grandpa gohan.
@BaansuUchiha 18,000 x 10 is 180,000
@BaansuUchiha what yes it is. Goku used kaioken against vegeta (a 2x multiplier) and goku power was at 8,000 before kaioken. Meaning vegeta had to be above a power level of 1,600
The last time Goku's tail was removed was by Kami, I believe.
Probably age, goku and gohan regrew tails as kids and since vegeta was the only adult left …
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I thought it was because he lost while an adult
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Isn't the great Ape transformation a multiplier
It does make one stronger but maybe it has a limit.
@@DragonBallCode No it doesn't and just saying spouting random nonsense sure doesn't help. It IS a multiplier and the excuse was pathetic. It was literally nothing but an excuse. Animating tails moving around constantly is a hassle, end of story.
So basically sayain tails are like human teeth
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Because of pants and confusion
Akira Toriyama said this A Loong time Ago
when he actually cared about DragonBall
Next video: How many arms has piccolo regrown?
4 maybe 8
I’m curious if retaining the tail will affect transformations.
SUPER SAIYAN 4
It’s how u get ssj4
Is that why Bardock was able to regrow it then?
2:40 that appeance of GOKU should have been another universe episode where the didn’t bump his head
This has been my head canon for a while now. Also explains the SS4 form perfect balance of their human and ape forms
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that doesn't make sense, transforming into great increases their power by 10x, therefore the great ape power is dependent on a Saiyan's original form
nice video man
i have a doubt when zeno destroyed the universe 7 from the future and goku brought him to the past now there is still 10 universes in the future but no zeno to control them so anyone can go on a rampage and destroy universes in the future and do whatever they want they need not fear zeno anymore 🤯.....
WAIT BUT IF 17 BROUGHT BACK ALL THE UNIVERSE THEN HE BROUGHT BACK THE OTHER UNIVERSE THAT WERE ERASED!!!! BY ZENO AND ZENO CHOSE NOT TO ERASE THEM AGAIN AFTER THEY CAME BACK!!! AND THIS HAPPEND IN THE MANGA WE COULD BE SEING THIS IN THE NEW DBS MOVIE COMMING 2022!!
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Can anyone please tell me how are all the villains like frieza and his men, cell, babadi, etcetera allowed to be in their physical form in afterlife???....... Wasn't only the people who dies for a greater good allowed to keep their bodies???
I’m actually posting a video on that subject in a couple of weeks!
@@DragonBallCode oh wow 😀, great...
this is something i hav thought about a long time ago
on both gohan and vegeta🤦♂️😂😅
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Why does the tail come back when they do mega power ups like ssg
Maybe it always grows back, but he just cuts it off away from view. Same with all the other Saiyans since it's a fact that Toriyama didn't like drawing tails.
We don't get to see Goku being intimate with Chi Chi too, but it happens lol
Explain how buu was born or who made him.
And explain about the destroyer who before beerus.
🤔
@@DragonBallCode yess. One of thr youtuber said that the destroyer who was before beerus made him to destroy.
Its like Toriyama forcefully wanted to close this issue and didn't matter even if it is a lame logic
2:40 goku would look better in green honoring his father’s armor
I agree with you AND THEN YOU STILL HAVE BARDOCKS BANDANA FLOATING SOMEWHERE OUT IN SPACE IN THE DBZ TIMELINE!!!!
Vegeta tails did grew back in dragon Ball GT cause he became a super Saiyan 4 for his first time recently with that explains it that's my theory
In GT, Bulma created a machine that lets Vegeta transform into a great ape without a tail, so Vegeta going super Saiyan 4 is because of the machine Bulma made and not because of him having his tail back.
0 dislike in the video name every single character in db og
Nice! I didn’t even realize that!
@@DragonBallCode omg there is a dislike now
Its friza lmao
@@akilaxhami7287 No it's because it's a dumb video with no real point. So of course it'll get dislikes. Garbage should be exposed.
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Nothing. I’ve just been busy with life
I think it's bc he's an adult
Wait how did planet sarada or planet vegeta even SURVIVE, like every full moon, the entire planets population turns into great apes, if somebody is in a building look out the window, see the full moon, they just break down the entire housedont they?
if ssj blue goku transformed into a great ape, his power wouldnt increase?
This is why we will never get SSJ4 in cannon. That transformation is the true God Ki Yamoshi the first Saiyan God has a tail
Bc toryiama didn’t want them anymore
@VIBIN JOTARO same tbh
I'm getting into it viciously I need more info
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didn't gohan regrow it during the fight with vegeta?
He did
This doesn't make sense vegetas power level jumping to 24000 is nowhere near his oozaru form a saiyan should have to lose 10% of their full power without their tails thats what i think and not be able to tap into their full potential as super Saiyans without one
I wouldn't say they don't need their tails anymore. What about the 4th level of Super Saiyan? You can only achieve it with a tail.
Super Sayin 4 isn't canon
@VIBIN JOTARO I'm pretty sure that only the movies are in a different timeline and that GT just isn't canon
@VIBIN JOTARO Golden Ape and Super Saiyan 4 are different.
@@llIllIlI that isn't cannon bud
Can you do a video about a theory if turles was in vegeta's squad
So in Gohan's case if the tail does not grow back if the saiyan exceed the power of a great app does this mean that already Gohan at his youngest age already exceeded the power of a great ape cause we see his tail grow 2x from birth nd on Sai saga wen they wre battling Vegeta the it was nonore ?
Plus if I can ask does not a great ape always be beyond the host individual as a saiyan that y it would be found that ever saiyan who transform into the ape get a multiply of his power 10x so nomatter how powerful a saiyan can be that great ape living inside them also growns in power beyond their normal state
It doesn't make sense
Great ape transformation is basically a multiplier
Doesn't matter what's your base level is, that transformation will give you 10x boost
It would make sense to not grow a tail after attaining super saiyan transformation, making the great ape transformation useless, and thus not needed the tail to grow
Which means vegeta and Gohan should have been able to grow up their tail back
As Vegeta was in danger during namek saga and Gohan until the time chamber
I great idea would be to have the Saiyan's grow their tails back in some "return to their origins" type storyline.
No, it wouldn't be great. Are they fucking lizards? How would that even be possible?
Akira Toriyama would make any excuse to make the plot make sense. when it slowly doesn't at some points of the series. like how super form works than out of no where he says "S-cells and saiyans only have them if they're good guys" and yet Vegeta wasn't a full good guy at the time he had his super form. I think the s-cells activate if saiyans gets a Z boost. like a backup system rather what Tori's telling us. because that makes more sense rather "you have to be a good guy to have those cells." crap. the tail part didn't make sense. also on the fact in the past he said he didn't want a tail because of laziness. and his other excuse after that is trying to make Goku "human". U6 saiyans I let slide because all universes and worlds don't have the same rules and timelines. but THIS tails don't grow back just because they on a higher level? that's almost the same excuse of why he didn't want to keep drawing in goku's tail. and I just finish off this one youtuber saying that there tails are actually suppressing them.
R u on insta?
I feel like that can't be cannon tho
CUASE GT GOKU SUPASS GODS your tail can make u main tain a form that even when you havent mastered it thats where the tail gives you more of a power up!
But GT is not canon
@@DragonBallCode ik but I want it to be cannon ITS LIKE Z ITS BETTER AND HAS MORE DROMATIC DETAIL THEN SUPER
Do you like rumsshi or sidra more? The reason
Sidra is a snak
@@DragonBallCode did you know rumsshi is stronger than sidra
GOLD Coler in dragon ball heroes dont look that strong then when he was in dbz
Proud that its still 0
dragon ball z kakarots story is very similar to dragon ball z kais story
@Spider Man agreed
@Spider Man true
imagine if vegeta was the last one standing at TOP...."i wish my tail back! and revenge on Yajirobe's hand that cut it! sever that hand from his body!"
Plot
It would be cool if vegeta wished for his tail back and learned how to control ape form and it makes him stronger then goku.
Yeah, but already knew how to control it.
Can you make a video but its hard
What was before Zeno?
No body knows lmao
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You do know Majin vegeta is stronger than Supersaiyan 3 right
To put it simply for those who never watched DB: As a Saiyan in their prime of youth, they will always grow their tails back. Once outside their youth (an adult) they will lose their ability to regrow their tails and basically get significantly “nerfed” in terms of capabilities. But at least they get that Zenkai boost everytime they get near 🪦
As of later in Z- Toriyama stated he disliked drawing tails so discontinued the presence of tails after Gohan became a teen, which he (would) have regrown it by then (as Goku was meant to regrow it before the final tournament in original DB but Kami permanently removed it for him by the age of 15-18 during his training).
The “fan base” excuse of Hybrids not gaining tails because of their Earthling side is already inconsistent as Gohan (a hybrid Saiyan) had a tail since the very beginning but simply stopped being drawn and was decided to not be drawn for any Saiyans and hybrids later in the series including Trunks-Goten and now Pan.