Justin’s back! The dress shoe king. He’s knows his stuff and is spot on about C&J tassel loafers here in London, very popular this time of year with city types.
Black is generally considered a formal color, making black loafers more formal than brown loafers or horsebit loafers, but still less formal than black oxfords.
In America at least, dark brown shoes are probably more traditional with a suit and tailoring than black. In England (and more specifically London), the rule was always 'No brown in town.' But US style was built on making the strict British rules more casual. Hence brown shoes and the sack suit. That being said, I'm not a fan of loafers with a worsted wool suit. I think even a derby with worsted wool doesn't work. But I'm in the majority. With a casual suit (flannel, tweed, cotton, or linen) or sport coat and trousers, I think loafers work fine. I almost never wear worsted wool suits, so loafers are what I mostly wear with tailoring from late spring to early fall. Though I sometimes wear a suede chukka. I also think going sockless is fine as long as you aren't wearing a tie.
The comments section is a joke- people saying “I will wear loafers with anything” and “it’s America il do what I want”… classless people that have never worn a tailored made suit with beautiful shoes in their lives. Just don’t buy them and stick to your Jordan’s and let everyone else dress like grown ups.
Loafers look better to me with some wider/relaxed fit pants. They are a ivy style staple and look best with classic cut pants to match. Way comfier and cooler too
I just got some blue suede loafers too and they're dynamite with khakis, oxford cloth button down, and tweed sports jacket! Blue suede is a good way to make khakis seem less stuffy
For me loafers are the only way to go with a suit because they make my foot look smaller ... I tried oxfords once and it felt so disproportionate to my body , and i'm not a small guy...but maybe it's cause my suits are on the slimmer side
Been wearing suits at least once a week (often more) for 20 years. Though I do rarely, yes, loafers and a suit are fine. Just watch for the profiles. The only one I’d say is pushing it is the square-toed loafer made of plastic.
I have a pair of Carmina dk brown suede monk loafers. Very elegant. Very dressy but more evening wear. In a way they're too sleek for a work shoe. But they look amazing with a suit or a smoking jacket for after work events. Monk strap oxfords are awesome for work if you want something a bit unique. I also wear jodhpur boots which are kind of the boot version of a monk.
Loafer? My Uncle explained to me was not what I wanted to be. I think they are good looking but I can't get the image out of my head. So for me all my shoes are tie. They say the rule😅s have changed so do what makes you comfortable .
You can IF you can pull it off. But it's off putting when someone is sending mixed message with their body language even though some people can pull off eccentric body language. Same goes for clothes, which also help us communicate. If you can take some good advice and avoid sending mixed messages that is a good thing.
The rules are for your own good. They exist because some combinations look better than others. That doesn’t mean they can’t be broken, but these rules aren’t really the super archaic ones that just don’t apply in the modern era.
i know, right? but apparently when it's a completely featureless whole cut slipper, the broguing giving it *a* feature helps you not think of house slippers and thereby dresses it up more than if it didn't have one. menswear, amirite?
Ever see holes in a tuxedo slipper? Never. You can’t just say well for this one shoe the rules don’t apply. Whoever told you that is full of it or more likely trying to sell you a pair.
Why would it be a problem to wear loafers with a suit? Especially the more formal black and dark brown calfskin ones. People have been doing that for many years. It's not even coontroversial.
@@Stridewise I bet most of those comments were written by people who don't even wear suits so I'll take their input with a pinch of salt. In Italy, for example, the loafer is the preferred shoe to wear with a suit.
This is also very regional. In the south I rarely even see suit jackets. Lawyers wear suits and not many others. It's not comfortable in the heat/humidity. Walking from parking garage to office door will ruin you.
"Can you wear loafers with a suit?" Bruh... I'm an American living in America, I can wear any damn thing I want to. We don't have to worry about what the King and Queen will do to us... this is the land of the FREE‼️ F the monarchy.
Until you keep getting passed over for promotions. it's all dependent on the culture of your employer and the region you live. These guys are in NY. The NE is very conservative.
Agreed. I can’t do loafers. To my subjective taste, they make any man look like a d$&che. I suspect that many people here - who are predominantly boot fans - will agree.
it's like we say in the video it depends where you are. as an Australian I'd never even considered their existence before I moved to New York, then it took me 10 years to get a pair because I never have to dress nice. Now I quite like them but a different path would have brought me elsewhere!
maybe not with a tie, although smooth leather loafers in an elegant cut work in all but the most formal business environments. So many offices are tie optional at which point loafers make sense. You want to fit in at work. Rigid rule adherence indicates you don't have a true sense of what style is but need someone to tell you what to wear. THAT is dumbing down fashion. You become a mannequin for someone else's fashion sense. if you actually have taste, creativity, flare and are comfortable experimenting with how you dress, you can play with the rules, which gives you authenticity and there's nothing more stylish than that. This is why rock stars always look so good and their agents don't.
Great info. #10 though, sorry but the more accessories you add, the more casual it becomes, so whole cut slipper is the most formal. I personally hate broguing, cap toe line etc. I like my stuff elegant yet manly, clean, aka more of a whole cut style on everything, even double monk straps, i prefer whole front area clean, like for example oct tenth double monk strap. Fitz look in this video is amazing, those suede loafers in dark brown is amazing. I also only like ONLY penny loafers, or belgian loafers (clean, elegant). 1. Whole cut black oxford. 2. Double monk straps in burgundy/oxblood museum calf (sexiest shoes there is). It is a panty dropper, more than chukka boots etc. 3. Suede dark brown penny loafers- summer evenings/nights. 4. espadrilles from Castaner in punched suade for max breathability. For morning and day hot summers, mid to late spring, early fall (on warm days). 5. Can add white and black dress leather sneakers, the clean ones (fall, spring when rainy etc). If i lived in warm/hot climate, i would be espadrilles and suade penny loafers 99% of the time (if not holding corporate job). If corporate job and allows, then unlined black leather penny loafer.
@@Stridewiseyou looked great. 90% of the way there. To the point where I told myself that I should throw on a tie and jacket today because even Nick did.
Justin’s back! The dress shoe king. He’s knows his stuff and is spot on about C&J tassel loafers here in London, very popular this time of year with city types.
his transatlantic expertise is perfect for a topic like this
I love my jfp butterfly loafers. They’re so money.
i'm glad that you too are entranced by butterfly loafers
Black is generally considered a formal color, making black loafers more formal than brown loafers or horsebit loafers, but still less formal than black oxfords.
In America at least, dark brown shoes are probably more traditional with a suit and tailoring than black. In England (and more specifically London), the rule was always 'No brown in town.' But US style was built on making the strict British rules more casual. Hence brown shoes and the sack suit.
That being said, I'm not a fan of loafers with a worsted wool suit. I think even a derby with worsted wool doesn't work. But I'm in the majority.
With a casual suit (flannel, tweed, cotton, or linen) or sport coat and trousers, I think loafers work fine. I almost never wear worsted wool suits, so loafers are what I mostly wear with tailoring from late spring to early fall. Though I sometimes wear a suede chukka. I also think going sockless is fine as long as you aren't wearing a tie.
I love color 8, ox blood, burgundy, cordovan color. I figure those would go beautifully with a suit, navy or gray.
Yes, burgundy sounds like it'd be too unusual but it's actually one of the best colors that can pair with both cool tones and earth tones
I have Brown, Black, and Snuff Suede Tassel Loafers, I'm a huge fan of SUEDE SHOES
Most Definitely, it's a GREAT LOOK
Leisure Suit Larry wore blue suede loafers
oh no, I just got a pair
@@Stridewise Don't worry. Leisure suits are going to come back in style soon.
@@Stridewise LOL!
The comments section is a joke- people saying “I will wear loafers with anything” and “it’s America il do what I want”… classless people that have never worn a tailored made suit with beautiful shoes in their lives. Just don’t buy them and stick to your Jordan’s and let everyone else dress like grown ups.
i thought saying 'all these rules are made up' at 09:19 would have saved us from such comments but i guess it was a bit late in the video
I think a less formal beige linen suit with some light suede loafers are a good summer look if your in a warmer climate.
I love loafers. I wore them with sweatpants yesterday
anarchy!
My only complaint is that it was too short.
Haha i always get worried that a video over 10 minutes is too long, competitors keep them under 10!
@@Stridewise You should take into account how interesting your guest is instead. Don’t worry what others do.
Loafers look better to me with some wider/relaxed fit pants. They are a ivy style staple and look best with classic cut pants to match. Way comfier and cooler too
i'm trying out merz b schwanen's chin001 pants here, they're enormous
I wear my brown suede Jm Wesron loafers with light grey double breasted suit often, with socks of course 😅
the right socks can help you get away with anything
I have Justin's blue suede tassel loafers. What's should those be paired with?
I just got some blue suede loafers too and they're dynamite with khakis, oxford cloth button down, and tweed sports jacket! Blue suede is a good way to make khakis seem less stuffy
For me loafers are the only way to go with a suit because they make my foot look smaller ... I tried oxfords once and it felt so disproportionate to my body , and i'm not a small guy...but maybe it's cause my suits are on the slimmer side
Been wearing suits at least once a week (often more) for 20 years. Though I do rarely, yes, loafers and a suit are fine. Just watch for the profiles. The only one I’d say is pushing it is the square-toed loafer made of plastic.
are you talking about the ones i wear in this video? that's box calf!
@@Stridewise nope, I don’t take shots at people who work hard to produce good video content. I’m talking about the ones you find at the mall.
What about monk strap loafers?!
I have a pair of Carmina dk brown suede monk loafers. Very elegant. Very dressy but more evening wear. In a way they're too sleek for a work shoe. But they look amazing with a suit or a smoking jacket for after work events. Monk strap oxfords are awesome for work if you want something a bit unique. I also wear jodhpur boots which are kind of the boot version of a monk.
Loafer? My Uncle explained to me was not what I wanted to be. I think they are good looking but I can't get the image out of my head. So for me all my shoes are tie. They say the rule😅s have changed so do what makes you comfortable .
why everyones pants so short??
You can do whatever you want. These style “rules” drive me nuts. If you want to wear loafers with a suit, do it.
09:19
You can IF you can pull it off. But it's off putting when someone is sending mixed message with their body language even though some people can pull off eccentric body language. Same goes for clothes, which also help us communicate. If you can take some good advice and avoid sending mixed messages that is a good thing.
The rules are for your own good. They exist because some combinations look better than others. That doesn’t mean they can’t be broken, but these rules aren’t really the super archaic ones that just don’t apply in the modern era.
What suburban neighborhood are those shots taken in? Looks Jersey.
those ones are in philly!
some of them are hudson heights in manhattan
brogue patterns are MORE casual not less. Smoother equals more formal.
i know, right? but apparently when it's a completely featureless whole cut slipper, the broguing giving it *a* feature helps you not think of house slippers and thereby dresses it up more than if it didn't have one. menswear, amirite?
Ever see holes in a tuxedo slipper? Never. You can’t just say well for this one shoe the rules don’t apply. Whoever told you that is full of it or more likely trying to sell you a pair.
I wear loafers with invincible socks all the time....even w my 3 piece suit and tie....😅😅😅😅....
I like loafers. But definitely a hard fit for alot of people amd im no different.
I feel like there's no way to buy them online because the fit has to be just right
Why would it be a problem to wear loafers with a suit? Especially the more formal black and dark brown calfskin ones. People have been doing that for many years. It's not even coontroversial.
read some of these comments and learn how controversial it is
@@Stridewise I bet most of those comments were written by people who don't even wear suits so I'll take their input with a pinch of salt. In Italy, for example, the loafer is the preferred shoe to wear with a suit.
@@ABC-rh7zc yes this is all covered in the video!
This is also very regional. In the south I rarely even see suit jackets. Lawyers wear suits and not many others. It's not comfortable in the heat/humidity. Walking from parking garage to office door will ruin you.
Tassel loafers are never coming back, Justin.
In the UK they never left
@@Molach101 loafers are such a great lens to view cultural differences
string loafers instead
"Can you wear loafers with a suit?"
Bruh... I'm an American living in America, I can wear any damn thing I want to.
We don't have to worry about what the King and Queen will do to us... this is the land of the FREE‼️
F the monarchy.
Until you keep getting passed over for promotions. it's all dependent on the culture of your employer and the region you live. These guys are in NY. The NE is very conservative.
Loafers shouldn’t be worn with anything. They look ridiculous
Agreed. I can’t do loafers. To my subjective taste, they make any man look like a d$&che. I suspect that many people here - who are predominantly boot fans - will agree.
Not as ridiculous as your mom
nude with loafers? fortune favors the bold
I've never owned loafers and never will, dreadful look, nothing compliments them
it's like we say in the video it depends where you are. as an Australian I'd never even considered their existence before I moved to New York, then it took me 10 years to get a pair because I never have to dress nice. Now I quite like them but a different path would have brought me elsewhere!
Loafers are the ugliest shoes ever
worse than crocs?
Loafers with a suit are only for someone with no taste or style. This is the dumbing down of fashion and style
Tell that to James Bond 🙂
I think you're on the wrong channel. Go back to gentleman's gazette
maybe not with a tie, although smooth leather loafers in an elegant cut work in all but the most formal business environments. So many offices are tie optional at which point loafers make sense. You want to fit in at work. Rigid rule adherence indicates you don't have a true sense of what style is but need someone to tell you what to wear. THAT is dumbing down fashion. You become a mannequin for someone else's fashion sense. if you actually have taste, creativity, flare and are comfortable experimenting with how you dress, you can play with the rules, which gives you authenticity and there's nothing more stylish than that. This is why rock stars always look so good and their agents don't.
Great info. #10 though, sorry but the more accessories you add, the more casual it becomes, so whole cut slipper is the most formal.
I personally hate broguing, cap toe line etc. I like my stuff elegant yet manly, clean, aka more of a whole cut style on everything, even double monk straps, i prefer whole front area clean, like for example oct tenth double monk strap.
Fitz look in this video is amazing, those suede loafers in dark brown is amazing. I also only like ONLY penny loafers, or belgian loafers (clean, elegant).
1. Whole cut black oxford.
2. Double monk straps in burgundy/oxblood museum calf (sexiest shoes there is). It is a panty dropper, more than chukka boots etc.
3. Suede dark brown penny loafers- summer evenings/nights.
4. espadrilles from Castaner in punched suade for max breathability. For morning and day hot summers, mid to late spring, early fall (on warm days).
5. Can add white and black dress leather sneakers, the clean ones (fall, spring when rainy etc).
If i lived in warm/hot climate, i would be espadrilles and suade penny loafers 99% of the time (if not holding corporate job). If corporate job and allows, then unlined black leather penny loafer.
Formal? No. Semi-formal? No. With a suit? Yes!
Don't know Nick... your outfit this time isn't in 😔
I thought he looked great.
i'm only just figuring out sports coats, didn't even know you're supposed to unbutton them when you sit
@@Stridewiseyou looked great. 90% of the way there. To the point where I told myself that I should throw on a tie and jacket today because even Nick did.