charla The facts aren't though. They are from the last couple years. Just because the clips are from "2014 and earlier" doesn't dismiss the facts that are presented in front of you through the numbers; he's just an average finisher around the rim.
He said in the video that he is going into his 9th year in the nba. Russ aint stopping now when it comes to his insanity at the rim with difficult shots. As long as that continues Russ won't be an elite finisher like kyrie or lebron. The dude played with the best scorer in the nba and he felt like he had to take ridiculous shots at the rim as shown in the video. Can't imagine what will happen when he is the only option on the team. Total scoring volume will increase and his %'s will drop even further
People who call Westbrook the best finisher in the league is the same people who only watches highlights of him dunking. Just because you see someone destroy 7 footers in the rim doesn't mean that guy is a consistent great finisher.
But Westbrook is consistent around the Rim, and guess what, he goes through people whilst trying to finish at the rim. he didn't factor in the fact that Westbrook tries to go through people
+Kreze202 yeah but if this video was made on other superstars it would be way worse westbrook is consistent at the rim this type of video could be made on every NBA player in the leauge stupidest video I've every watched lool
Stats aren't the only thing in basketball tho lol allen iverson led the sixer in the finals with a low percentage and he was also ball hogging. You have to watch the impact of the player in the team not just stats
i was thinking about Rose too... yet Rose was a turnover king back then too... but he definitely finished pretty nicely back then.But no one beats Parker... as much as I don't like his game.
+slyrundog True, Rose did turn over the ball a bunch in his younger days but a lot of those were off wild passes and botched dribbles. His finishing was rarely off in his prime and when it was Noah was there to clean up. But I feel like Rose's layups were more in control than Westbrook's. But Westbrook is a way better dunker. So that's why Rose was a better finisher. Now though those days for Rose are pretty much gone. He does have too much confidence going to rim as when he was young mostly because of injuries.
all they westbrook fans are pretty much saying "well if all those other guards took stupid ass shots they would shot lower % to" lol thats what seperates them from westbrook they DONT take stupid shots lmao
People always say Curry can only shoot and I always tell them he's the best among guards at the rim lol just because he can't poster people apparently he's "only a shooter" people always want to hate on greatness
he gets easy lay ups at the rim thats why he fg is so high evryone is guarding him so closely and he can get past the easily and also because everyone can shoot in gs the defence dowsnt rotate to him a lot of times
Bout time someone recognized that he's overrated. He makes horrible decisions, particularly in the 4th Q. HIs athletic ability and mental drive makes up for it to some extent, but not enough to justify it. If I was Durant I would have left sooner. All he had was a bunch of role players and a "mad" point guard who can't be coached.
Jeez. A great player has a chance to play with a great team after trying to carry an average team...for years. It makes sense to go there. The rest is blah blah to me. WESTBROOK's bad decisions is why they lost in the playoffs. Fuck him already.
Half the game is mental. KD's team was not doing what he needed to be the most comfortable and be the star player. He's not a team leader like Lebron but that's a personality thing. But typically a leader takes most of the blame, in any situation. Take away Russel's bad shot choices (the ones most would agree on as being bad..forced, hogging, out of control etc) and they would have made it to the finals. That's most likely a statistical fact. And Curry was a no show, I don't blame anyone else for that.
loool if stat padding was easy everyone would have good stats ... god you're an idiot so you're basically saying if you wanna be a good player all you gotta do it get 10 points 10 assist and 10 rebounds with 5 opposing NBA players trying to stop you
The title says Russ is not as u think "at the rim". Coach further invokes advanced stats to support his viewpoint on how Russ is not so good at "finishing at the rim". Sadly some people have to bring up other aspects of his game like how he "sucks the defense in when driving", or even mention irrelevant players like Curry, both of which have nothing to do with his "ability to finish at the rim". Illiteracy truly is a big problem. BTW, Russ is one of my favorite players and I most certainly hope that he can improve his efficiency and carry his team back to the WCF.
His FG% is low because he's not a good shooter. And he's way too fond of taking ill-advised jumpers, and he's only average among guards at finishing at the rim. Considering that Curry averaged better than 45% from outside the arc, Westbrook's 29.6% this season looks pretty poor. But this shouldn't be news to anyone that watches OKC games. I love Westbrook's competitive spirit but I've always thought he took too many shots per game. Given his (relatively) low offensive efficiency, it seems the team would have been better served if he distributed more. To say nothing of how getting everyone involved (which is the point guard's JOB) would have helped his teammates get into a rhythm. They've got to be feeling like Russ doesn't trust them when they are standing around wide open and Russ dives into the paint yet again. However, this year his assists per game jumped up to 10.4, so maybe Westbrook himself is starting to realize a better way to win. Too bad he realized it too late to keep KD in OKC.
He states clearly that he is not hating on him. Like coach said, the math don't lie. The numbers and videos are literally right above the box where these people are writing "u just mahd dat he da best gard in da leeg"
These flaws of Russ have always been their even in his athletic prime & peak and Russ never tried to improve his weaknesses. All of Russ’s flaws are coming back to bite him even now
Anti-Anti Fun Percentage. In fact, in 2015-16 he was the best in the league... better than big men and LeBron. He took more than 3 layups per game so it's not an insignificant number. If you just watch him take layups in traffic you'll understand why that's the case. He isn't as explosive or flashy but he's crafty and uses both hands really well, plus he has the threat of the floater
+The Best His passing is overrated. Just because he has a lot of assists doesn't mean he's a good passer. His assists/passing TO's ratio is amongst the worst in the league.
YESSS. I'm sucking of these cretins saying he's so much better on defense than Steph Curry. Just because he's big & athletic doesn't mean he's a good defender.
Agreed! Curry is better than Westbrook in defense! This a fucking fact! Some people are too busy just looking at the player with the ball during live NBA games to notice shit like this. Such an overrated defender...
LaughableBadAbraham Gaming did curry Break Oscar Robinson’s 41 Trip Dub Record Nope Did curry average a trip dub for the whole season nope did curry choke a 3-1 lead YES
Air Sharkz Westbrook choked a 3-1 too... Did Westbrick win 2 mvps? Unanimous MVP? Is Westbrook efficient? Does he have 2 rings? Is he a good leader? Does he make his teammates better? Is he the greatest shooter of all time? Did he deserve his MVP even tho he barely made the playoffs and was a first round exit? Nope Is he a statpadder? YES
Coolhands444 KD choked Russ dident really choke KD shot 12-31 and game 7 he shot 10-31 Westbrook averages 10 APG EVEN with pg and melt curry has klay draymond and the best bench in the nba Russ had no one last year all he had was oladipo who only averaged 15PPG as a SG
Sports fans are generally not the smartest people around, and tend to have very stubborn views. I used to think that Russell Westbrook, despite me not liking a lot of aspects about his game, was at least elite at the rim, so this was a nice video, nuancing my view quite a bit. Just don't expect some mouth-breathing teen to come to the same conclusion, let alone even watching said video before commenting.
Westbrook will never win a ring as long as he is the number one option on his team, KD was smart for leaving. Would have been a lot better if he didn't choose the Warriors, but it's a guaranteed championship.
except that it's not guaranteed. no ring is. the Ws will be great, but chemistry issues, a very weakened, less versatile bench, and lack of great defensive bigs like Bogut will cost them.
And dont forget when there were other "guaranteed championship" teams, they usually did not win the ring. For example Miami Heat with LeBron for the first time, or LaL with Howard, Nash, Kobe. But its true, this warriors team is clearly the strongest out of them. Finalist of the playoffs getting extra superstar on its roster, wow.
Great point coach! He's been in the league for almost a decade yet his game has not truly mature. I hope he does this season and may coach Donovan improve his game. #NoHate
He just stated okc # 1 in offensive rebounds. He just ball hogs for those stats because since they most likely get that offensive rebound the team is not getting harmed. His percentage says it all
"Curry can't finish around the league and sucks at defense" -every person ever. I'm not a curry fan but that's bs. He's the best finisher at the guard position in the league by far and he had the most steals in the league and is very fundamental.
Woah, Curry is not the best finisher in the leauge man. I would give the best guard finisher to Kyrie Irving without a doubt. Kyrie finishes in harder situations, and has a vast array of finishes. Not to take anything from Curry, he's good and all, but as good as Kyrie at finishing.
+Fabrice Uwihirwe kyries a great finisher but he doesn't have the absolutely unreal floater that curry has. Dude can throw it up 40 feet high and it will still go in. Stats don't lie he has the highest driving layup percentage in the league
I've been a fan of the channel for a long time. For some reason watching your videos makes it a lot more fun to learn the basketball foundimentals. Thank You Coach Nick, I hope You keep enlighting us in the present and future.
I wonder how these numbers are affected by high pressure situations. Either in the 4th quarter or when the game is within a basket? I suspect that they take a dip because Russ does have a tendency to force plays during crunch time.
Russ just needs to slow down. Tony Parker used to be just like him in the sense that he was really athletic and one of the fastest players in the league. He learned to let plays develop and slow down and look at him now, 4x champion, 6x all-star, Finals MVP etc.
None of those guys are as hyped as Westbrook. The reason he keeps making these videos is because some of the people on his twitter just flat out reject statistics in favour of personal bias towards Westbrook. They see facts proving them wrong and dismiss their ignorance by assuming that Coach Nick hates Russ. Just because you have some sort of bias towards a player doesn't mean everyone does.
Pass the f*cking ball Russ! -James Harden -Kevin Durant -Reggie Jackson -Serge Ibaka Seriously OKC kept the bonehead and passed up on a potential NBA championship dynasty! 9 years in the league and still blowing 4th quarter leads like nobody's business. That should have been a stat covered here. Pivotal 4th quarter turnovers.
The thing is. Okc's owner prob ****s with Westbrook. I mean. The man is a mad man. But still didnt trade him off. But traded Harded, made Ibaka leave, KD leave. For what? a *mad man* that just knows how to drive and kick? oh. no? just pure drive? oh. ok.
Preach brother! I'm really rooting for Russ and the Thunder this coming season, as long as they're not playing my Hawks. I hope Russ gets to watch this video and take the constructive criticism and uses it to improve his game, they're team, and morale over there.
Russell Westbrook 2015-16 Season PPG APG RPG PER 23.5 10.4 7.8 27.64. Playoffs: PPG APG RPG 26.0 11.0 6.9 He shot 45% from the field, which is actually pretty gooD. In the playoffs, he upped his averages to 26.0 11.0 and 6.9 with 2.6 steals and 0.1 blocks, as he led his team to within one game of the NBA Finals against the statistically greatest NBA team ever. He also led the playoffs in total assists, even though he played one less series than Curry and LeBron. He was also tops in offensive box plus/minus, and second in overall box plus/minus AND value over replacement player to LeBron James. Respect? Appreciation? No. We MUST find something negative, ANYTHING negative, to say about him. Smh.
Great vid honestly. perfect for when arguing with a biased Westbrooke fan. You should start a not as good as you think series or better than you think series it'd be much apperciated.
I'm a thunder fan but this shit true, but it doesn't matter now because our best player is gone, and 2016 was our best chance to win a chip... It's over
Coach Nick: I thoroughly enjoy your teaching and videos. It's a breath of fresh air to see someone actually critique, analytically, these players because if not for this hard evidence, everything becomes a generality. So many fans are "highlight" driven fans that actually know little about the game of basketball. Many have not even sat down to watch a full game, and I think that in the case of Russ, he intoxicates one's objectivity with his superior athleticism leading to so many fans out there that believe he is something he just is not, an elite-level point guard! I am from OKC, and have stood firm in the belief that Russ will never win a championship unless he changes his game. He needs to stop shooting so many threes (30% is not good enough), gain control over his body/athleticism (as you've shown here in this video), and become a student of the game so that his horrid shot selection can be rectified before it's too late and he wakes up to find himself retired with no rings.
A lot of hate on this video and I don't know why, Russell Westbrook is crazy athletic and explosive, but he has no body control and as a result is super sloppy, if he could control himself and develop a Kyrie Irving type of lay up package utilizing his crazy athleticism, his field goal percentage would go way up.
Westbrook exploits his athleticism, so when it comes to finishing.... he's overly off balanced because his timing+explosion doesn't give him the right footing. I don't think he really has a lot of that 'English' touch when it comes to laying it in too. But also when he's contested in the paint he literally wants to go right through the defender as well. But he still is a great finisher regardless
Hey man, great video. longtime OKC fan here to weigh in on some stuff. I agree with everything in your video, it's statistics! My biggest complaint with Russ is his tendency to fall on the ground from driving to the basket too hard and not getting back on D. However, I'd be curious see how he has improved over the years on this factor. This was a HUGE problem with him early on, but it seems to me(just from watching) that he has improved on this issue recently. His assists per game have increased from dumping the ball to Serge, Enes and Steven bc I think he realized he won't get as many fouls. I think he is finishing better than he was 2-3 years ago, but there are definitely underlying issues that you brought up. I'm curious to see how he is going to adapt without KD. Hopefully he continues to pass the rock, but if he acts like he did two years ago we won't make the playoffs. PS I think Detroit benefited from Reggie Jackson's similar tendencies because of Drummond. Drummond is a beast! Maybe you'll see Steve help Russell at a better rate this year.
Joseph Frantz lol thanks but at this point I don't think russ is gonna change. he's still great and etc but he needs a guy like andre miller next to him. Like a nice backup point guard you can put next to him during crunch time
If he was like Chris Paul they'd be much worse Only players to average 20-10 (ppg-apg) in a playoff run past the 2nd round - Magic Johnson (3x) - 1986, 1987, 1991 - Kevin Johnson (2x) - 1989, 1990 - Steve Nash (2x) - 2005, 2006 - Russell Westbrook (1x) - 2016 Only player to average 25-10 (ppg-apg) in a playoff run past the 2nd round - Russell Westbrook (1x) - 2016 Oh, here's CP3's only notable playoff accomplishment - tied most all star teams (9) without passing the 2nd round, soon to hold this record alone
+Hayden Eden Lol harden isnt better and cp3 isn't please stop stats don't lie and all the pro analysis say hes t5 gtfo with that shit loool harden and cp3 better ? tahahhhah
Good vid, coach. Must have taken a lot of work. I agree with you on Russ. I love watching him play and he's def a great player, but his greatness comes down energy and athleticism, not skill. He makes a ton of boneheaded decisions and hurts his team almost as much as he helps. Would love to see him improve, but not sure he has the maturity to do so.
It's a shame for our country that the coach didnt have this level of interest in economics or something lol if he put his mind toward analyzing space travel we'd land on Mars by 2019 I'm convinced haha
+BBALLBREAKDOWN lol when will you stop hating on Westbrook? Is he erratic at times? Yes. Is he attempting tough shots? Yes. Why don't you break down Currys choke job in the last 2 finals?
+BBALLBREAKDOWN lol when will you stop hating on Westbrook? Is he erratic at times? Yes. Is he attempting tough shots? Yes. Why don't you break down Currys choke job in the last 2 finals?
Lol the fact that he didn't expose Curry doesn't mean Curry doesn't have his problems too. And the fact that he used statistics to expose Westbrook doesn't mean he's hating on Westbrook. And Curry chocking in the finals is common knowledge. why would he have to spend time talking about a topic that's widely known instead of having interesting discussions on other more counterintuitive arguments?
+Jasper Jamm the lay ups that Russell attempts are alot harder than a regular attack that most guards do. It's that a fault of questionable shot selection? May be. Or is it coaching fault that he is not put into a position to succeed? For the shots that Westbrook is forced to take he is shooting a pretty great %. Can u imagine if a good philosophy was instilled in Okc? Where Westbrook could get easy cuts to the basket like steph get and everybody on GSW gets? Or if Westbrook had a better big man to whom RW could drop the ball to could finish around the rim incase the defense is pluggin up on him? This guy never gives Westbrook credit for anything. With all his flaws Westbrook is a top 5 player in the league and it's pure blind haterism to deny him that title
Westbrook still plays like this in 2021. Westbrook is 🔥🗑️. He would doe best as a 6th man getting 20-25 minutes a game on a team with an alpha player and coach!
no its just cp3 been getting exposed by curry everytime they've played. Since curry crossed back in 2014 2015 he's been getting crossed by curry everytime theynplay
Simon And 3rd all time in scoring, 1st among non-big men. And even then, the only guys above him are Malone (played his whole career with stockton) and KAJ (played part of his career with Oscar and another with Magic). Meanwhile Derek Fisher is the best PG Kobe ever played with, yet still topped Jordan in all time scoring. Also Kobe didn't play many minutes as a rookie and played injured in his last few seasons. Those seasons aside he averaged 27 ppg over a 15 season stretch (that's longer than MJ's entire career). And MJ's 37.1 ppg season was very similar. 28 FGA and 12 FTA per game, 48% shooting, 18% 3 point shooting, and a lower eFG than 06 Kobe (48% to Kobe's 49%). I suppose MJ is also an overrated scorer by your metric ? And the ppg difference is even smaller if you consider pp100p, which strips MJ of the advantage of a higher pace than 06 Kobe. Their usage rates and true shooting percentages were even identical. There is literally no way to call Kobe's scoring overrated without directly implying that MJ's is also.
The problem with russell is he doesnt maximize his two step gather... elite finishers like lebron maximizes this two gather steps to a point that it seems like theyre traveling...
Great vid Coach. Been having similar problems finishing at the basket myself (although I'm athletically challenged compared to Russ), so was good to see the issue broken down like this
Lord DJ I'd say Kawhi one, PG two and maybe Lillard three. Remember, 06 Kobe made the playoffs on a shit team, averaged 35.6 ppg (highest since 80s Jordan, second highest since 60s Wilt) while scoring 81 in a game and didn't even finish top 3 in MVP voting that year
WhateverReally I agree PG or Dame were my picks to win this year people are sleeping on them heavy. I had Curry as my 3rd option but I don't think he has a chance now since Durant joined I do expect to still have a great season though.
To say Russel is not superstar is just plain stupid, u have a guy that is best triple double player ever and u say that.. This stats are true but it doesn't mean that he is not a superstar, if he could just learn to control he's speed, power and to learn to trust he's teammates he would be unstoppable, maybe even the best player that world has ever seen, period.
this dude is putting curry in everything.. Curry is only at the top of paint finishing because he takes less shots and only open shots in the paint... he is misleading as fuck. this video is retarded, how is a top 5 finisher in the league overrated at finishing???
Even with all his faults especially that TERRIBLEEEE decision making, he's arguably the hardest pg to guard in the league. Also he has several avenues of attack unlike someone like kyrie. Much scarier player even without the handles.
good job keep up th good work and about triangle offense video I make my brother watch it (12 years old) and now he is understanding what their coaches try to teach him appreciated
Ronaldo Mendoza KD shot 12/42 from the 3 point line the entire WCF, russ hit more 3's than him with less attempts... What the fuck was russ supposed to do if KD cant even fucking shoot the ball...
well it's not too surprising considering he had a terrible FG% last season. He's gonna AVG nearly a triple double this year but that FG% will be lucky to be over 40%
This is just literally a video of why Russell Westbrook is a top 5 finisher at the rim in the game. Defense are expecting him to drive to the rim, more than any other NBA player, ARGUABLY. Because he's the most explosive. Not only this but OKC is one of the worst shooting teams in the league. So players tend to pay attention to Russ. While all these remain facts, Russ shoots 50% at the basket. If Russ had better shooters on the court with him Its a whole different story. You don't take anything in consideration, just his bad smh.
What also proves my point is how every time he drives, almost everyone on the wing or the corner are wide open. When he drives every defender on the floor comes to help. I've even seen Kevin Durant begging on the wing wide open a lot every game.
Yeah, but that counters what you said that he needs better shooter on his team. He had Durant wide open time and time again but as you saw didnt pass the ball consistently even when the lane was crowed by 3 defenders. (Ibaka was open in the corner a lot too, and he can make those wide open with some consistency) If we talk about talent and potential yes he is probably the best. But his shot selection is horrendous at times. So he is not as efficient as he could be. Stephen Curry is far more efficient in the paint even tho he doesnt have half of the physical ability of Wetbrook. That should tell you something.
Brqinstorm Kevin Durant likes to make his own shots. Btw it's hard to find Durant sometimes because he quietly calls for the ball standing on the wing. Serge Ibaka is inconsistent at times. One time he's bricking 3's. Other times he can't miss. You're right about Russ' shot selection. I'm one of the biggest Russ fans in the world but he pisses me off when deffers to 3's.
Brqinstorm What Nick fails to mention while comparing his finishing to Kyrie, Curry, Paul etc. Is Russ being a top player in the league, he has one of the worst 3 point shots in the league. So of course him mainly being a in the paint, mid range scorer is gonna have an effect on his FG%. TBH this is either biased analysis or obvious facts he didn't take in consideration.
I'm a HUGE #GOATBROOK fan (LAKER FAN HERE). Since Kobe retired, he's been my favorite player along with Melo. You're video is spot on, but that's pretty much it. He's a great competitor. His impact is just as good as the top PG's in the league. Just because he isn't as a good finisher at the rim, doesn't make him trash. Kyrie is by far the best FINISHER at the rim. No argument. Curry is a great finisher as well because most of the time, his shots are not contested. Most of Curry's buckets around the rim are because of his system, which isn't a knock. WESTBROOK gets more contact as he is one of the best BLOW BY defenders in the league. Don't get it twisted, Goatbrook is great. TOP 5 players easily in the league.
This is literally a video about why Russ is a top 5 finisher at the rim in the game. The difference between Kyrie, Westbrook, and Curry is Westbrook shoots 30% from the 3. Being the most athletic player on the court, teams are always looking for him to drive, and when he does, the whole team collapses to help. OKC is not a good shooting team. They thrive in the paint. Teams know this. I've even seen KD wide open on the wing many times because they are focused on helping, Nick doesn't point any of these facts out. While these remain facts, Russ shoots 50% from the paint, which is very consistent, considering ALOT of his layups are double contested, with help D. Russ is indeed a great finisher.
BBALLBREAKDOWN I did watch it. But considering you didn't consider any of the factors I listed above, you lost a lot of credibility. You as a content creator should take everything in consideration. Because numbers will lie to you in a instant.
All Tree Of Ya'll i wouldn't say he's a GREAT finisher, but isn't as horrible as this video makes it out to be. He's a great athlete and sure, he may not be smart most times, but i'll take the risks. CP3 is a great finisher tho. But Kyrie wins it for me. Curry is over rated. Not hating. Swap Westbrook and Curry and let's see if it's still the same stats after it's all said and done.
(1) Great analysis! (2) Critical, sound, unbiased, solidly supported analysis is the only sure path for improvement, and this becomes ever more relevant as one intends to reach higher in the performance scale. (3) I can't avoid admiring Russ for his tenacity, devotion, athleticism and plasticity, but this does not prevent me from noticing big flaws in his game, which, much to his chagrin and suffering of his teammates and Thunder's fans. (4) Is this a matter of many years of bad coaching, or rejection of good coaching, or is it just a matter of personal ceiling? (5) From the last few games I watched, it seems that Russ is actually improving his game, serving his teammates more frequently than before. Maybe the presence of Paul George and Carmelo Anthony helped him in this area. (6) Anyway, I wish RW fixes those aspects of his superb game that deserve improvement, so he can bring his team to championships, and get the rewards that he so hardly strives to achieve.
I don't understand how people can call you a hater when facts are presented in their face. It makes no sense.
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Fact hater!
because this video can be made on every NBA player in the leauge and these clips are all 2014 and earlier its a stupid video
charla The facts aren't though. They are from the last couple years. Just because the clips are from "2014 and earlier" doesn't dismiss the facts that are presented in front of you through the numbers; he's just an average finisher around the rim.
He said in the video that he is going into his 9th year in the nba. Russ aint stopping now when it comes to his insanity at the rim with difficult shots. As long as that continues Russ won't be an elite finisher like kyrie or lebron. The dude played with the best scorer in the nba and he felt like he had to take ridiculous shots at the rim as shown in the video. Can't imagine what will happen when he is the only option on the team. Total scoring volume will increase and his %'s will drop even further
People who call Westbrook the best finisher in the league is the same people who only watches highlights of him dunking. Just because you see someone destroy 7 footers in the rim doesn't mean that guy is a consistent great finisher.
+Kreze202 great point!
are you dumb lmfao he makes layups on like 3 people
charla That's why i said he's not a consistent great finisher. He can finish over a whole team, but not consistently
But Westbrook is consistent around the Rim, and guess what, he goes through people whilst trying to finish at the rim. he didn't factor in the fact that Westbrook tries to go through people
+Kreze202 yeah but if this video was made on other superstars it would be way worse westbrook is consistent at the rim this type of video could be made on every NBA player in the leauge stupidest video I've every watched lool
The Truth Hurts. All he did was use stats and facts, but some of you still want to be ignorant. Worst type of people on earth.
LeBron\Westbrook fans can't take the facts man
just westbrook fans what does this have to do with lebron
+Adam Amr lebron fans too
+KOBE BRYANT kobe fans even more
Stats aren't the only thing in basketball tho lol allen iverson led the sixer in the finals with a low percentage and he was also ball hogging. You have to watch the impact of the player in the team not just stats
2011 d rose was the best pg finisher no doubt. Russ can be that but he's too reckless and take wildshots almost like for shaqtin a fool lol
i was thinking about Rose too... yet Rose was a turnover king back then too... but he definitely finished pretty nicely back then.But no one beats Parker... as much as I don't like his game.
+slyrundog True, Rose did turn over the ball a bunch in his younger days but a lot of those were off wild passes and botched dribbles. His finishing was rarely off in his prime and when it was Noah was there to clean up. But I feel like Rose's layups were more in control than Westbrook's. But Westbrook is a way better dunker. So that's why Rose was a better finisher. Now though those days for Rose are pretty much gone. He does have too much confidence going to rim as when he was young mostly because of injuries.
+vsc1988 nah. I'd say Rose was a better dunker too
Setofhornsandahalo but he hits em
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all they westbrook fans are pretty much saying "well if all those other guards took stupid ass shots they would shot lower % to" lol thats what seperates them from westbrook they DONT take stupid shots lmao
Lmao Westbrook stans and haters can be retarded asf, this comments section is hilarious.
chefsteph for3 x kd boi curry takes em but they go in 😂😂
Mr.1400 Curry. You jealous that Westbrook can dunk. I would be too if i was a curry fan.
Russwest likewise could be said about how Westbrook loves to put on a curry imitation, except all he gets is bricks
David Sefuiva lol still mvp
People always say Curry can only shoot and I always tell them he's the best among guards at the rim lol just because he can't poster people apparently he's "only a shooter" people always want to hate on greatness
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Just like they want to hate on Lebron
He still shoot more than 6 three pointers per game and if the 3's don't go in he has a bad game
he gets easy lay ups at the rim thats why he fg is so high evryone is guarding him so closely and he can get past the easily and also because everyone can shoot in gs the defence dowsnt rotate to him a lot of times
Bout time someone recognized that he's overrated. He makes horrible decisions, particularly in the 4th Q. HIs athletic ability and mental drive makes up for it to some extent, but not enough to justify it. If I was Durant I would have left sooner. All he had was a bunch of role players and a "mad" point guard who can't be coached.
So not go to the best team he can, makes sense.
Jeez. A great player has a chance to play with a great team after trying to carry an average team...for years. It makes sense to go there. The rest is blah blah to me. WESTBROOK's bad decisions is why they lost in the playoffs. Fuck him already.
Because he doesn't get setup right by his PG. ISO ISO ISO
+Kalu Abay faxxxx
Half the game is mental. KD's team was not doing what he needed to be the most comfortable and be the star player. He's not a team leader like Lebron but that's a personality thing. But typically a leader takes most of the blame, in any situation. Take away Russel's bad shot choices (the ones most would agree on as being bad..forced, hogging, out of control etc) and they would have made it to the finals. That's most likely a statistical fact. And Curry was a no show, I don't blame anyone else for that.
Personally I think Westbrook isn't as good overall as anyone thinks all people do is look at the stats all he does is stat pad lol
But the video is all about analytics tho lol
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loool if stat padding was easy everyone would have good stats ... god you're an idiot so you're basically saying if you wanna be a good player all you gotta do it get 10 points 10 assist and 10 rebounds with 5 opposing NBA players trying to stop you
Are you dumb ? Do you know what stat padding is ? Trying to call other people idiots lol
+Stay Icy I'm saying you're acting like stad padding is easy even if he does do which he doesnt
The title says Russ is not as u think "at the rim". Coach further invokes advanced stats to support his viewpoint on how Russ is not so good at "finishing at the rim". Sadly some people have to bring up other aspects of his game like how he "sucks the defense in when driving", or even mention irrelevant players like Curry, both of which have nothing to do with his "ability to finish at the rim". Illiteracy truly is a big problem. BTW, Russ is one of my favorite players and I most certainly hope that he can improve his efficiency and carry his team back to the WCF.
Nobody ever wondered why his fg % so low ?
His FG% is low because he's not a good shooter. And he's way too fond of taking ill-advised jumpers, and he's only average among guards at finishing at the rim. Considering that Curry averaged better than 45% from outside the arc, Westbrook's 29.6% this season looks pretty poor. But this shouldn't be news to anyone that watches OKC games. I love Westbrook's competitive spirit but I've always thought he took too many shots per game. Given his (relatively) low offensive efficiency, it seems the team would have been better served if he distributed more. To say nothing of how getting everyone involved (which is the point guard's JOB) would have helped his teammates get into a rhythm. They've got to be feeling like Russ doesn't trust them when they are standing around wide open and Russ dives into the paint yet again.
However, this year his assists per game jumped up to 10.4, so maybe Westbrook himself is starting to realize a better way to win. Too bad he realized it too late to keep KD in OKC.
@@Qichar1. FG% is a trash stat.
2. Russ has bad efficiency bc he sucks in shooting in anywhere on court.
I'm a Westbrook fan, but this is true...
Wow! LaVine is already a top 5 finisher is two seasons, that's insane!
***** what's up
***** I like Westbrook and I think that Coach Nick made him sound like he was a shitty finisher, when really he's still well above average
***** ya. He's the best at getting to the rim, but he just can't put it in for some reason. Not enough touch for how face he's going
***** for sure
+JaMario Fantasia agreed
He states clearly that he is not hating on him. Like coach said, the math don't lie. The numbers and videos are literally right above the box where these people are writing "u just mahd dat he da best gard in da leeg"
+topnotch3232 🏀👊👍
couldn't agree more, Westbrook has so much room to grow and improve it's kind of mind blowing that he hasn't really got any better.
Coaching could correct some of these flaws if you could get him to listen. He only seems to know one style of play and that's Playground style.
These flaws of Russ have always been their even in his athletic prime & peak and Russ never tried to improve his weaknesses. All of Russ’s flaws are coming back to bite him even now
Curry is 1st in finishing around the basket but y'all haters still gonna say he's overrated and only shoots three lmao
Percentage or shots hit?
Kyrie Irving?
Syrupy Curry is a better finisher than Kyrie. Curry has a lot more variety around the rim.
If you watched the tape youll see that curry shppts more and drives less,kyrie is the opposite
Anti-Anti Fun Percentage. In fact, in 2015-16 he was the best in the league... better than big men and LeBron. He took more than 3 layups per game so it's not an insignificant number. If you just watch him take layups in traffic you'll understand why that's the case. He isn't as explosive or flashy but he's crafty and uses both hands really well, plus he has the threat of the floater
Had to come back to this after watching him on the lakers
Do a vid on his overrated defense and passing
Defense definitely overrated, not his passing though
+The Best His passing is overrated. Just because he has a lot of assists doesn't mean he's a good passer. His assists/passing TO's ratio is amongst the worst in the league.
YESSS. I'm sucking of these cretins saying he's so much better on defense than Steph Curry. Just because he's big & athletic doesn't mean he's a good defender.
Agreed! Curry is better than Westbrook in defense! This a fucking fact! Some people are too busy just looking at the player with the ball during live NBA games to notice shit like this. Such an overrated defender...
Facts
When I used to play basketball when I was younger, I had this similar problem. I would drive as hard as I could, but then I'd lose control.
This video aged like fine wine all the things Coach nick talked about is one of the many reasons Westbrook had Arguably his worst season
Curry > Westbrick
Sasuke Jaeger r u out of ur mind what drugs do take?!
Its actually true and the only person on drugs is u if u think wesbrick is better than curry
LaughableBadAbraham Gaming did curry Break Oscar Robinson’s 41 Trip Dub Record Nope Did curry average a trip dub for the whole season nope did curry choke a 3-1 lead YES
Air Sharkz Westbrook choked a 3-1 too...
Did Westbrick win 2 mvps? Unanimous MVP? Is Westbrook efficient? Does he have 2 rings? Is he a good leader? Does he make his teammates better? Is he the greatest shooter of all time? Did he deserve his MVP even tho he barely made the playoffs and was a first round exit?
Nope
Is he a statpadder?
YES
Coolhands444 KD choked Russ dident really choke KD shot 12-31 and game 7 he shot 10-31 Westbrook averages 10 APG EVEN with pg and melt curry has klay draymond and the best bench in the nba Russ had no one last year all he had was oladipo who only averaged 15PPG as a SG
God, so much hate in the comments... Like, come on. At least give the damn video a chance before making unrelated assumptions
it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion with any of them
there mad cause he's telling straight facts
Sports fans are generally not the smartest people around, and tend to have very stubborn views. I used to think that Russell Westbrook, despite me not liking a lot of aspects about his game, was at least elite at the rim, so this was a nice video, nuancing my view quite a bit.
Just don't expect some mouth-breathing teen to come to the same conclusion, let alone even watching said video before commenting.
Westbrook will never win a ring as long as he is the number one option on his team, KD was smart for leaving. Would have been a lot better if he didn't choose the Warriors, but it's a guaranteed championship.
Not guaranteed
+E Boogie yeah it pretty much is
no, you have to factor in possible injuries, chemistry issues or simply just underachieving.
except that it's not guaranteed. no ring is. the Ws will be great, but chemistry issues, a very weakened, less versatile bench, and lack of great defensive bigs like Bogut will cost them.
And dont forget when there were other "guaranteed championship" teams, they usually did not win the ring. For example Miami Heat with LeBron for the first time, or LaL with Howard, Nash, Kobe. But its true, this warriors team is clearly the strongest out of them. Finalist of the playoffs getting extra superstar on its roster, wow.
This video aged like wine 🍷
Russ: Good player, bad efficiency.
Which is not the kind of player I prefer.
But I still enjoy watching his game.
Like Kobe
If the lakers only watched videos of these RUclips before the trade
Great point coach! He's been in the league for almost a decade yet his game has not truly mature. I hope he does this season and may coach Donovan improve his game. #NoHate
+Josef Rey Villanueva haha, Thx!
He averaged 23 points 7 rebounds and 10 assists per game and plays defense what are you talking about
He just stated okc # 1 in offensive rebounds. He just ball hogs for those stats because since they most likely get that offensive rebound the team is not getting harmed. His percentage says it all
I couldn't argue both of you. You have good points. I just want his play to elevate from statistical greatness to smarter plays.
Bro........ Donovan Mitchell coached him. *cough* 4-2 win *cough* best player on the Jazz
Wall > Westbrook when it comes to comes to finishing at the rim
In my opnion
Your stupid. In my opinion.
lol
I can agree...wall is a better pg overall...just sad he doesn't get as deep in the playoffs as he deserves to be in the WEAKstern Conference.
true his team isnt as good so hes very overlooked
This aged well
2021 and I am still arguing with these Westbrook Stans on the internet. He hasn't changed at ALL!
kyrie is the best finisher no doubt
Super Kawhiii yah no doubt
Super Kawhiii kyrie is overrated
Craftiest*
LOLS
rose and kyrie
Here from the future and fans are finally realizing Russ is an overrated finisher at the rim.
"Curry can't finish around the league and sucks at defense" -every person ever. I'm not a curry fan but that's bs. He's the best finisher at the guard position in the league by far and he had the most steals in the league and is very fundamental.
lmfao
Woah, Curry is not the best finisher in the leauge man. I would give the best guard finisher to Kyrie Irving without a doubt. Kyrie finishes in harder situations, and has a vast array of finishes. Not to take anything from Curry, he's good and all, but as good as Kyrie at finishing.
+Fabrice Uwihirwe kyries a great finisher but he doesn't have the absolutely unreal floater that curry has. Dude can throw it up 40 feet high and it will still go in. Stats don't lie he has the highest driving layup percentage in the league
Curry doesn't drive in much and steals don't mean you can play defense
+Mo Lester But holding the opposing PG's lower than their average shooting % is.WTF?
Bet you if someone made of video of dissing curry, every one would agree with him. Why do y'all hate on greatness??
because Curry... he's just a bitch. He's good; great even. But he's still just a little fucker
how is he a bitch
Lol ppl can't even come up with a reason they hate him😂just say he's to cocky for celebrating or they hate his fans
chefsteph for3 x kd boi he had a privileged upbringing.
DDTV KD for example never acts as cocky as Curry does, yet KD is the more complete player.
I've been a fan of the channel for a long time. For some reason watching your videos makes it a lot more fun to learn the basketball foundimentals. Thank You Coach Nick, I hope You keep enlighting us in the present and future.
I wonder how these numbers are affected by high pressure situations. Either in the 4th quarter or when the game is within a basket? I suspect that they take a dip because Russ does have a tendency to force plays during crunch time.
He is like 11% or 13% on shots to tie or win the game.
+LongJohn Silverthorne that's not accurate
Tony Parker will be one of the best finishers at the rim until he retires.
Russ just needs to slow down. Tony Parker used to be just like him in the sense that he was really athletic and one of the fastest players in the league. He learned to let plays develop and slow down and look at him now, 4x champion, 6x all-star, Finals MVP etc.
Everyone..or almost everyone sees the truth now
Truth holds through time. This is primary example. Enjoy watching coach Nick breaking down Westbrook game,
3 Best point guards
1.Stephen Curry
2.CP3
3.Kyrie Irving
Worst point guard ever
100000.Westbrook
People praise Westbrook more for his ability to get to the rim more than his ability to finish...... Same concept goes for any super-athletic player
So many salty Westbrook fans who misinterpret facts as "biased". Still an amazing player though. Good vid, Nick.
Every player has weaknesses, he only posts about Westbrooks weaknesses ...hmm
He wasn't implying he had just weaknesses. He was saying that he was an overated slasher. Won't don't you understand?
Just from the first couple of vids I watched he criticized Jimmy Butler's slashing game, Antetokounmpo's shooting, and D Rose after the injury.
All those guys have one video. Westbrook has like 6
None of those guys are as hyped as Westbrook. The reason he keeps making these videos is because some of the people on his twitter just flat out reject statistics in favour of personal bias towards Westbrook. They see facts proving them wrong and dismiss their ignorance by assuming that Coach Nick hates Russ. Just because you have some sort of bias towards a player doesn't mean everyone does.
Pass the f*cking ball Russ!
-James Harden
-Kevin Durant
-Reggie Jackson
-Serge Ibaka
Seriously OKC kept the bonehead and passed up on a potential NBA championship dynasty! 9 years in the league and still blowing 4th quarter leads like nobody's business. That should have been a stat covered here. Pivotal 4th quarter turnovers.
The thing is. Okc's owner prob ****s with Westbrook. I mean. The man is a mad man. But still didnt trade him off. But traded Harded, made Ibaka leave, KD leave. For what? a *mad man* that just knows how to drive and kick? oh. no? just pure drive? oh. ok.
Preach brother! I'm really rooting for Russ and the Thunder this coming season, as long as they're not playing my Hawks. I hope Russ gets to watch this video and take the constructive criticism and uses it to improve his game, they're team, and morale over there.
Most unbiased, informational , and interesting basketball videos on RUclips !!! Love your videos keep em coming Coach 👍
Russell Westbrook
2015-16 Season
PPG APG RPG PER
23.5 10.4 7.8 27.64.
Playoffs:
PPG APG RPG
26.0 11.0 6.9
He shot 45% from the field, which is actually pretty gooD. In the playoffs, he upped his averages to 26.0 11.0 and 6.9 with 2.6 steals and 0.1 blocks, as he led his team to within one game of the NBA Finals against the statistically greatest NBA team ever. He also led the playoffs in total assists, even though he played one less series than Curry and LeBron. He was also tops in offensive box plus/minus, and second in overall box plus/minus AND value over replacement player to LeBron James. Respect? Appreciation? No. We MUST find something negative, ANYTHING negative, to say about him. Smh.
Preeeeeeeech ain’t seen nun bout stephs shooting or anything we just HAVE to find something wrong with a determined and aggressive player such as Russ
Hey coach where do u find these really advanced stats? Like fouls from driving and stuff.
Try basketball-reference. I haven't checked whether they have it or not, but they have a lot of advanced stats
yea sadistic it doesn't have stats that advanced lol.
synergy. It's not free tho
Westbrook fans " but he plays so hard".
Coach " he is still hurting the team".
Great vid honestly. perfect for when arguing with a biased Westbrooke fan. You should start a not as good as you think series or better than you think series it'd be much apperciated.
Hey coach can you do a video about how the Spurs will do without Tim Duncan
I'm a thunder fan but this shit true, but it doesn't matter now because our best player is gone, and 2016 was our best chance to win a chip... It's over
W
This is so accurate today
Who's watching this in 2022😭😭😭😭
Russ has to shoot 20 shots a game to get 10pts 10reb and 10 assists and people think hes good lol
Coach Nick: I thoroughly enjoy your teaching and videos. It's a breath of fresh air to see someone actually critique, analytically, these players because if not for this hard evidence, everything becomes a generality.
So many fans are "highlight" driven fans that actually know little about the game of basketball. Many have not even sat down to watch a full game, and I think that in the case of Russ, he intoxicates one's objectivity with his superior athleticism leading to so many fans out there that believe he is something he just is not, an elite-level point guard!
I am from OKC, and have stood firm in the belief that Russ will never win a championship unless he changes his game. He needs to stop shooting so many threes (30% is not good enough), gain control over his body/athleticism (as you've shown here in this video), and become a student of the game so that his horrid shot selection can be rectified before it's too late and he wakes up to find himself retired with no rings.
Watching this in 2022 hurts
A lot of hate on this video and I don't know why, Russell Westbrook is crazy athletic and explosive, but he has no body control and as a result is super sloppy, if he could control himself and develop a Kyrie Irving type of lay up package utilizing his crazy athleticism, his field goal percentage would go way up.
Flippin Birdiez layup package
There is 0 hate in this video its just numbers
Westbrook exploits his athleticism, so when it comes to finishing.... he's overly off balanced because his timing+explosion doesn't give him the right footing. I don't think he really has a lot of that 'English' touch when it comes to laying it in too. But also when he's contested in the paint he literally wants to go right through the defender as well. But he still is a great finisher regardless
Commented this ^ before i watched the video, sure enough that was true
Can we appreciate the analysis?! this is great and in depth, high quality, obviously knows the game. Shouts out to Coach Nick
fair video. you were spot on about those fastbreaks after Russell flailing thru the air.
man i'm sure glad 2k don't got u in charge of ratings
Coach just mad that curry will not be the best pg next season
Lol what?
The Frech Prince Yes
+Danny Williams ok we will see
The Frech Prince Fair enough
Who gonna be better than him? Westbrick? LOL or Irving with his fluke finals performance? Foh
Really interesting breakdown, especially on footwork.
+M0ebius Thx!
Hey man, great video. longtime OKC fan here to weigh in on some stuff. I agree with everything in your video, it's statistics! My biggest complaint with Russ is his tendency to fall on the ground from driving to the basket too hard and not getting back on D. However, I'd be curious see how he has improved over the years on this factor. This was a HUGE problem with him early on, but it seems to me(just from watching) that he has improved on this issue recently. His assists per game have increased from dumping the ball to Serge, Enes and Steven bc I think he realized he won't get as many fouls. I think he is finishing better than he was 2-3 years ago, but there are definitely underlying issues that you brought up. I'm curious to see how he is going to adapt without KD. Hopefully he continues to pass the rock, but if he acts like he did two years ago we won't make the playoffs.
PS I think Detroit benefited from Reggie Jackson's similar tendencies because of Drummond. Drummond is a beast! Maybe you'll see Steve help Russell at a better rate this year.
I've been saying this for so long. Finally found this video to help my case. He's been a joy to watch, but that's just it.
If only he had a Chris Paul-like IQ.
Who else has a Chris Paul iq but Chris Paul
MarcusTv dope pro pic of Yusuke lol and true. A better IQ*
if only and then add a touch of steph's shooting just enough to make opponents respect him from deep then we'd bear witness to a goat in the making
Joseph Frantz lol thanks but at this point I don't think russ is gonna change. he's still great and etc but he needs a guy like andre miller next to him. Like a nice backup point guard you can put next to him during crunch time
If he was like Chris Paul they'd be much worse
Only players to average 20-10 (ppg-apg) in a playoff run past the 2nd round
- Magic Johnson (3x) - 1986, 1987, 1991
- Kevin Johnson (2x) - 1989, 1990
- Steve Nash (2x) - 2005, 2006
- Russell Westbrook (1x) - 2016
Only player to average 25-10 (ppg-apg) in a playoff run past the 2nd round
- Russell Westbrook (1x) - 2016
Oh, here's CP3's only notable playoff accomplishment
- tied most all star teams (9) without passing the 2nd round, soon to hold this record alone
westbrook overrated highly
More than 30 triple doubles is overated ?
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+The Frech Prince yeah he is a stat padder
+Theredman10 if westbrook wasn't with okc they would have been trash
this man is hating, that only 1 part of his game that could be fixed mentally
hes a top 5 player in league and is a superstar.
+David Guzman he needs to slow down...
+ItsMichaelAkin what you dont understand is this video could be made on EVERYONE in the nba
Top 5 player No, superstar Yes. Steph, Harden, Lebron, Durant, cp3 are better
+Hayden Eden Lol harden isnt better and cp3 isn't please stop stats don't lie and all the pro analysis say hes t5 gtfo with that shit loool harden and cp3 better ? tahahhhah
Lol ironic that the jordan commercial with westbrook taking flight was the ad for the video before it started
I really like westbrook but when I watch the games, I just want to yell at him!
Good vid, coach. Must have taken a lot of work.
I agree with you on Russ. I love watching him play and he's def a great player, but his greatness comes down energy and athleticism, not skill. He makes a ton of boneheaded decisions and hurts his team almost as much as he helps. Would love to see him improve, but not sure he has the maturity to do so.
This video is so relevant now lmao
SPIT THAT TRUTH COACH
This Russell Westbrook guy runs fast in slow-mo.
Breathtaking indeed.
I have this problem, too.
My athleticism is at Olympic levels. When I drive to the grocery store I leave a mess of fruits & veggies in my wake.
so why is finisher one of his 2k badges ?
Im sleep
bruh Im scleep
That's 2k nigga... You really gonna listen to a video game
+Ricky Martinez hell yeah , There's a reason why LeBron is rated higher than curry
+Michael E. You're a fucking moron
and people say Westbrook is better than curry. delusional
It's a shame for our country that the coach didnt have this level of interest in economics or something lol if he put his mind toward analyzing space travel we'd land on Mars by 2019 I'm convinced haha
+realitities2 haha! Well, I'm putting a fair amount of brain energy into this election, so fingers crossed!
+BBALLBREAKDOWN lol when will you stop hating on Westbrook? Is he erratic at times? Yes. Is he attempting tough shots? Yes. Why don't you break down Currys choke job in the last 2 finals?
+BBALLBREAKDOWN lol when will you stop hating on Westbrook? Is he erratic at times? Yes. Is he attempting tough shots? Yes. Why don't you break down Currys choke job in the last 2 finals?
Lol the fact that he didn't expose Curry doesn't mean Curry doesn't have his problems too. And the fact that he used statistics to expose Westbrook doesn't mean he's hating on Westbrook. And Curry chocking in the finals is common knowledge. why would he have to spend time talking about a topic that's widely known instead of having interesting discussions on other more counterintuitive arguments?
+Jasper Jamm the lay ups that Russell attempts are alot harder than a regular attack that most guards do. It's that a fault of questionable shot selection? May be. Or is it coaching fault that he is not put into a position to succeed? For the shots that Westbrook is forced to take he is shooting a pretty great %. Can u imagine if a good philosophy was instilled in Okc? Where Westbrook could get easy cuts to the basket like steph get and everybody on GSW gets? Or if Westbrook had a better big man to whom RW could drop the ball to could finish around the rim incase the defense is pluggin up on him? This guy never gives Westbrook credit for anything. With all his flaws Westbrook is a top 5 player in the league and it's pure blind haterism to deny him that title
Westbrook still plays like this in 2021. Westbrook is 🔥🗑️. He would doe best as a 6th man getting 20-25 minutes a game on a team with an alpha player and coach!
Coach Nick always speaking facts. Should've beeen subbed to you a long time ago but this time it's guaranteed.
And yet Westbrook and Curry are considered the best point guards but Chris Paul isn't...
Cp3 is criminally underrated it's not even funny
People sleep on CP3 because LAC aren't so big compared Cleveland and Golden State.
Do you see what happens when he matchs up against them especially curry?! That's why...
+dope thing$ Yeah he plays just as well as them, if not better. He's just not as flashy when does it so people don't give him credit
no its just cp3 been getting exposed by curry everytime they've played. Since curry crossed back in 2014 2015 he's been getting crossed by curry everytime theynplay
wait so Reggie's stats around the rim are better than Russ?
+R u b e n R o d the stat I showed was that he drives a little bit more than Russ per game... I don't remember if he shoots better...
Please coach do an analysis on his overrated passing game
And an analysis on Bryant's overrated scoring.
cough cough 35 points a game with kwame brown on his team. 3rd in allltime scoring
Kobe's a top 3 scorer all time. Hold this massive L
cough cough 45FG%, 27 shots and 10 FTs a game. 1st in alltime missed shots
Simon And 3rd all time in scoring, 1st among non-big men. And even then, the only guys above him are Malone (played his whole career with stockton) and KAJ (played part of his career with Oscar and another with Magic).
Meanwhile Derek Fisher is the best PG Kobe ever played with, yet still topped Jordan in all time scoring.
Also Kobe didn't play many minutes as a rookie and played injured in his last few seasons. Those seasons aside he averaged 27 ppg over a 15 season stretch (that's longer than MJ's entire career).
And MJ's 37.1 ppg season was very similar.
28 FGA and 12 FTA per game, 48% shooting, 18% 3 point shooting, and a lower eFG than 06 Kobe (48% to Kobe's 49%). I suppose MJ is also an overrated scorer by your metric ?
And the ppg difference is even smaller if you consider pp100p, which strips MJ of the advantage of a higher pace than 06 Kobe.
Their usage rates and true shooting percentages were even identical. There is literally no way to call Kobe's scoring overrated without directly implying that MJ's is also.
The problem with russell is he doesnt maximize his two step gather... elite finishers like lebron maximizes this two gather steps to a point that it seems like theyre traveling...
Great vid Coach. Been having similar problems finishing at the basket myself (although I'm athletically challenged compared to Russ), so was good to see the issue broken down like this
Unpopular opinion : Westbrook won't even finish top 3 in MVP voting next season
He'll finish top 3 but I don't expect him to win due to team record.
Lord DJ I'd say Kawhi one, PG two and maybe Lillard three.
Remember, 06 Kobe made the playoffs on a shit team, averaged 35.6 ppg (highest since 80s Jordan, second highest since 60s Wilt) while scoring 81 in a game and didn't even finish top 3 in MVP voting that year
WhateverReally I agree PG or Dame were my picks to win this year people are sleeping on them heavy. I had Curry as my 3rd option but I don't think he has a chance now since Durant joined I do expect to still have a great season though.
Lord DJ He will, but with KD on his team and MVP voters' EXTREME reluctance to award a same player 3 years in a row, I don't think Steph has a chance.
+WhateverReally lillard ? lool
To say Russel is not superstar is just plain stupid, u have a guy that is best triple double player ever and u say that..
This stats are true but it doesn't mean that he is not a superstar, if he could just learn to control he's speed, power and to learn to trust he's teammates he would be unstoppable, maybe even the best player that world has ever seen, period.
best triple double player ever? lol nooo
Oscar Robertson is the best triple double player ever... he averaged a triple double for the whole season
Likes couch say, "The Math don't lie"
Hes never going to be close to even curry. much less jordan
this dude is putting curry in everything.. Curry is only at the top of paint finishing because he takes less shots and only open shots in the paint... he is misleading as fuck. this video is retarded, how is a top 5 finisher in the league overrated at finishing???
Even with all his faults especially that TERRIBLEEEE decision making, he's arguably the hardest pg to guard in the league. Also he has several avenues of attack unlike someone like kyrie. Much scarier player even without the handles.
Like honestly who has such an explosive first step?? This dude is scary
Kyrie or Curry are hardest to guard. Westbrook is the easiest to sag off on
Kyrie can shoot, drive, and has better handles than Westbrook
All these hype beasts comparing Kyrie to the big dogs FOH
Nobody is afraid of WB scoring . Im more afraid of Kyrie or Steph with the ball because they are better scorers .
This channel is good. Keep it up!!
good job keep up th good work and about triangle offense video I make my brother watch it (12 years old) and now he is understanding what their coaches try to teach him appreciated
+Mert Bodur that's great to hear! Thx!
you have got to be the biggest curry fan, make better content next time.
+Tyrone Van Wees what the heck does this have to do with Curry?
This video had nothing to do with curry stop hating so hard
Ur too salty
i like green eggs and ham
you know we can all make comments that have nothing to do with the video tyrone, fuck off
6 months from now BBALL BREAKDOWN new video "why Russell Westbrook is the best finisher in the league."
btw Nick, did you take fga's into consideration?
nah he is gonna be even more reckless now that KD ain't there to bail him out
+Chuyi Vue KD choked that's the reason they lost to the Warriors if KD could have as you say bailed him out why didn't he do it when it mattered
+John Wall Because Westbrook stuck back to his hero ball.
Ronaldo Mendoza KD shot 12/42 from the 3 point line the entire WCF, russ hit more 3's than him with less attempts... What the fuck was russ supposed to do if KD cant even fucking shoot the ball...
love how this man is trying his hardest to make westbrook seem like a bad overrated player and make curry a "lockdown" defender.
+KTH I never said anything remotely like he's a bad player. Not even close.
lmao i never said tht u SAID u make westbrook seem bad i said u SEEM TO MAKE HIM seem bad and overrated
Data and analytical thinking at it's best! More power Coach Nick!
well it's not too surprising considering he had a terrible FG% last season. He's gonna AVG nearly a triple double this year but that FG% will be lucky to be over 40%
He is a Horrible player PERIOD!!!!!
This is just literally a video of why Russell Westbrook is a top 5 finisher at the rim in the game. Defense are expecting him to drive to the rim, more than any other NBA player, ARGUABLY. Because he's the most explosive. Not only this but OKC is one of the worst shooting teams in the league. So players tend to pay attention to Russ. While all these remain facts, Russ shoots 50% at the basket. If Russ had better shooters on the court with him Its a whole different story. You don't take anything in consideration, just his bad smh.
What also proves my point is how every time he drives, almost everyone on the wing or the corner are wide open. When he drives every defender on the floor comes to help. I've even seen Kevin Durant begging on the wing wide open a lot every game.
Yeah, but that counters what you said that he needs better shooter on his team.
He had Durant wide open time and time again but as you saw didnt pass the ball consistently even when the lane was crowed by 3 defenders.
(Ibaka was open in the corner a lot too, and he can make those wide open with some consistency)
If we talk about talent and potential yes he is probably the best.
But his shot selection is horrendous at times. So he is not as efficient as he could be.
Stephen Curry is far more efficient in the paint even tho he doesnt have half of the physical ability of Wetbrook. That should tell you something.
Brqinstorm Kevin Durant likes to make his own shots. Btw it's hard to find Durant sometimes because he quietly calls for the ball standing on the wing. Serge Ibaka is inconsistent at times. One time he's bricking 3's. Other times he can't miss. You're right about Russ' shot selection. I'm one of the biggest Russ fans in the world but he pisses me off when deffers to 3's.
Brqinstorm What Nick fails to mention while comparing his finishing to Kyrie, Curry, Paul etc. Is Russ being a top player in the league, he has one of the worst 3 point shots in the league. So of course him mainly being a in the paint, mid range scorer is gonna have an effect on his FG%. TBH this is either biased analysis or obvious facts he didn't take in consideration.
Russell The Monstar Westbrook youre an idiot dude. If you shoot 50% on LAYUPS thats an issue. You dont know what the hell youre talking about.
I'm a HUGE #GOATBROOK fan (LAKER FAN HERE). Since Kobe retired, he's been my favorite player along with Melo.
You're video is spot on, but that's pretty much it. He's a great competitor. His impact is just as good as the top PG's in the league. Just because he isn't as a good finisher at the rim, doesn't make him trash. Kyrie is by far the best FINISHER at the rim. No argument. Curry is a great finisher as well because most of the time, his shots are not contested. Most of Curry's buckets around the rim are because of his system, which isn't a knock.
WESTBROOK gets more contact as he is one of the best BLOW BY defenders in the league. Don't get it twisted, Goatbrook is great. TOP 5 players easily in the league.
This is literally a video about why Russ is a top 5 finisher at the rim in the game. The difference between Kyrie, Westbrook, and Curry is Westbrook shoots 30% from the 3. Being the most athletic player on the court, teams are always looking for him to drive, and when he does, the whole team collapses to help. OKC is not a good shooting team. They thrive in the paint. Teams know this. I've even seen KD wide open on the wing many times because they are focused on helping, Nick doesn't point any of these facts out. While these remain facts, Russ shoots 50% from the paint, which is very consistent, considering ALOT of his layups are double contested, with help D. Russ is indeed a great finisher.
+All Tree Of Ya'll if u watched this and thought Russ is a top 5 finisher in the league, then you should watch it again...
BBALLBREAKDOWN I did watch it. But considering you didn't consider any of the factors I listed above, you lost a lot of credibility. You as a content creator should take everything in consideration. Because numbers will lie to you in a instant.
BBALLBREAKDOWN Which BTW I'm not sure if you have an argument for other than statistics.
All Tree Of Ya'll i wouldn't say he's a GREAT finisher, but isn't as horrible as this video makes it out to be. He's a great athlete and sure, he may not be smart most times, but i'll take the risks.
CP3 is a great finisher tho. But Kyrie wins it for me. Curry is over rated. Not hating. Swap Westbrook and Curry and let's see if it's still the same stats after it's all said and done.
Wow 3:35 that would take so long coach u deserve more subs.
(1) Great analysis! (2) Critical, sound, unbiased, solidly supported analysis is the only sure path for improvement, and this becomes ever more relevant as one intends to reach higher in the performance scale. (3) I can't avoid admiring Russ for his tenacity, devotion, athleticism and plasticity, but this does not prevent me from noticing big flaws in his game, which, much to his chagrin and suffering of his teammates and Thunder's fans. (4) Is this a matter of many years of bad coaching, or rejection of good coaching, or is it just a matter of personal ceiling? (5) From the last few games I watched, it seems that Russ is actually improving his game, serving his teammates more frequently than before. Maybe the presence of Paul George and Carmelo Anthony helped him in this area. (6) Anyway, I wish RW fixes those aspects of his superb game that deserve improvement, so he can bring his team to championships, and get the rewards that he so hardly strives to achieve.