As always, a nice, detailed review. I just bought the Bluetti AC200L and should have waited for this as it adds 50% more WH, my Wireless charging, double the PV input, better DC voltage connections and includes most of the needed cables, all at about $350 more. Thanks for doing the work and just hoped for a review about 2 weeks earlier 😁
Wow, thanks for the in-depth video Jason! I think this option is one of the best ones right now. It checks all the boxes I want in a larger 120v model!
That thing is awesome for the price. My only complaint is the fan noise, but it’s decent compared to the competition. I don’t need 240 volt for things I want to run, but it is really nice for energizing your entire electric panel for your whole house (rather than just a transfer switch).
Jason, I'm wondering about the fan noise; you only measured at full load, but I'm curious what the decibel reading is at low load, at what wattage do the fans ramp up, and how charging effects the fans? I'm considering this for a home office/audio video studio, and I'm wondering if I should just increase my budget to get a Delta Pro 3? I really love the new touch screen on this thing, and the DC capacity would be perfect for powering my network gear more efficiently! If say that $0.35 per wH for a fully spec'ed system is really all you could hope for in a mostly portable system...
Fans are really quiet when under normal usage. They are variable and only ramp up loud when under max loud. They are more pleasant than other budget models for sure.
Looks like a fantastic system. I have the 1500 LFP paired with the EP3000, I'm thinking about adding this one. I did have an issue with my Ep3000 and had to have Pecron repair it. Customer has to pay the shipping back to the factory. My biggest complaint with Pecron is the app, it's crap to be honest. I hope they do an update soon.
@@Bamabrute85 It stopped charging via solar. It would cascade charge from the 1500 but solar charging did not work. I assume they replaced the charge controller. I received it after about 14 days the day I shipped it back to Pecrom, so far so good. Shipping back to them was on me and via FEDEX with Ins the cost was $300. My local UPS store wouldn't ship it.
@@rmclark339 why did you have to pay for shipping if the product was still under warranty? What good is a warranty if you have to pay $300 for shipping?
@@teuton6167 Great question. They told me that's their policy. It was a pretty frustrating back and forth but in the end I needed the EP3000 fixed. Apparently they only have a 30 day window for free return/repairs. I think it's a flaw in their policy that may keep some from buying their products.
What is the comparable Ecoflow product to this? Is it the Delta 3 Pro? This has close to that capacity but at a much lower cost. Would this be a good option compared to the Delta 3 Pro?
The main difference between this one and the DP3 is that the DP3 has 240v output (and slightly higher wattage from the inverter 4000w). If you don't need 240v output, this one is a great option!
Does this unit have a amp limit input like the Anker f3800 Solix? And if you were purchasing a solar generator , would you purchase 2 e600lfp with 240 connector or 1 Anker f3800 Solix?. I'm a beginner and I need all the help I can get.
The only issue with having two separate units and running 240v split phase is that if either side of the panel isn't equal, one battery will discharge faster than the other one. If you need 240v output, I'd recommend the Anker F3800, the Ecoflow Delta Pro 3, or the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra (those all have one unit / one battery system).
Yeah, only at 13v though which most power stations will charge at only 100w with that voltage. Maybe by using a boost converter connected you could get more power.
I am a very unhappy Hysolis Apollo 4K owner....already been through (3) main units and still don't have a properly functioning system. The system is so sensitive and buggy. I am now looking for an alternate setup. We do need 240V split phase as we run an entire off-grid cabin which has a 240V well pump. Does this system charge-share and power-share when connected in 240V split phase? I think that's important. The electrical panel is certainly not balanced. So it really does no good to have all that power available if half of it only goes to one side of the panel. Yes, you can swap the cables around when needed but that's one advantage of the Hysolis system. BUT...for me, the Hysolis has never worked that way properly. The charging share is also important. We have several arrays that point in different directions to catch sun throughout the day. If the units don't charge share, again, your power is limited to whichever unit is lowest on power. So having one unit 50% lower than the other limits overall power availability. Does the system support AC charging via generator? That's our only alternate charge source besides solar. We have to be able to charge that way. The Hysolis is but it's not as simple as they lead you to believe. The wiring from the generator to the Hysolis units must be wired in a specific way and you absolutely must use an inverter generator that produces a pure sign wave. They don't tell you that.
Those are common issues with a dual power station setup. It will be the same with a Bluetti model, Ecoflow model or even a dual Jackery setup. 1) no dual power station setup that know of will balance / load share the split phase legs, including this one so they have to be completely balanced, which is impossible in my opinion. 2) no power station that I know of will charge off a non inverter generator. They all have a sensitive charging system that requires strict voltage and a sine wave. Sounds like you need a single unit with 240v output so no requirement to worry about balancing the legs OR a 48v LFP battery / all in one inverter-charger. You'll still need a higher quality inverter generator for both systems though.
@@Jasonoid We did end up buying a large, dual-fuel, inverter generator and, after a lot of back and forth between our electrician and Hysolis, figured out how wire it to make it work properly. Hysolis didn't even know how to until we asked the questions. It costs us quite a bit of $ for our electrician to teach them how to charge their own units. The new Ecoflow 3 is a single unit 240V split phase system. Hysolis actually offered us a full refund and we could have taken it and just purchased the Ecoflow. But...we want to give Hysolis the chance to correct all this. We've spent so much $ tailoring our setup FOR to Hysolis, we need to give it every chance to work. They Hysolis IS supposed to charge share and self balance power so playing the cord swap game isn't supposed to be necessary. We shall see. But, I'm researching systems now just in case it continues to fail. All these systems make it sound easy.... it's just not. It's expensive and time consuming and incredibly sensitive to a lot of outside factors. But, we don't have a choice. Line power is not an option. It's solar power or no power and we have far too much $ invested at this point to not make it work.
@@michaelknapp5456 off grid power is very expensive, espeically when you don't have the sun around to charge your batteries. 10 to 15 years ago the cost was much much more. These new systems are still expensive but they have reduced the cost significantly vs what it was awhile ago. If I was going with a truly off grid setup I'd probably do a 48v server rack system. I hope you can get all the bugs worked out soon! 👍
I didn't notice any issues like that, I had one array pushing 140voc so I couldn't get much higher than that. They definitely made some good changes to the charge controllers. They are much faster
@Jasonoid I'm using a cell phone hotspot.Because that's all I have to connect with. Does? It have to be connected to the internet.Does it have to have a regular Wi-Fi rooter?Can't I do Wi-Fi direct from myself?Why is everything different about this particular App. This app got the worst review Review , i've ever seen on google play store.
Yes an absolute winner, but you know what I wish one of these power station companies would do? Start a trade-in program. I would love to trade in my Pecron E1500 for this model. If we can do that with cars, why not with power stations? I bet there are many people who would love a deal on a gently-used power station for a cheaper price. Refurbished models are good, and help recycle these things. Hopefully, as an influencer, you can influence the companies you work with to think about this. I think it would be wildly successful.
I am not exactly an influencer but did talk to the company to give engineers certain implemented suggestions as some other companies aswell. Check with BLUETTI for the program you ask about exist.
Own the E600 and love it, was very close to ordering the E1500LFP but after seeing this the E3600 is hard to pass up. Thanks for the in depth video as usual, we've come to expect nothing less. Have a good one!
I love that this has a 30-amp charging cable with passthrough. Do you think it would work with the UPS feature for 120v whole home backup always connected via a 30-amp generator inlet?
I think it would work. Someone else on YT was unsuccessfully trying the opposite, inputting the regular AC cord but outputting the 30a port to his RV. The battery alone met his 30a demands, but when he connected the 120 AC input, it would overload even with it almost fully charged. Why is that? Because you need to input greater than the output for pass-through / UPS to work? Any way around that? He simply wanted to add some juice as the load was much greater and there was plenty of battery. /watch?v=_qRF3Z6kGUw
I own 2 Ankers and 4 different Ecoflows. No Bluetti, no Pecron. What's turned into a "must have" for me is the ability of the Ecoflows to set a percentage above which it will only charge via solar. But if battery gets low enough it draws from AC. It appears this might have the same capability. In their user manual it shows you can set a "Battery Level at which AC charging stops in UPS mode". Can you confirm that if unit is plugged into AC but battery level is above the percentage you choose, it will not charge from AC. But as soon as it hits that level it draws just enough to keep it at that level?
They threw everything they had at it and made it stick. Nicely done. You are right about 240v outputs. So many features are non essential yet we base our buying decisions on it. For 99% of people and 99% of scenarios, this unit does everything we’d want it to.
Pecron is smashing it! The power station market is about like the computer market. If you get one today, next month or next year, you will be able to get a unit with more power and features for less money. Great review!. Nice to see all of that solar power available for testing:D
I just received mine on Wednesday. Other than powering it on, I haven't done anything with it yet. I was waiting for your review to learn more about it before I started messing around with it.
Hmmm just bought the Anker f3800 yesterday with the transfer switch for $3,500 but also got a free everfrost 30 fridge. Priced out pecron stuff to match Anker but it's tricky. The 3600 model is actually just over 3,000 capacity...Anker is 3,840 capacity. Pecron doesnt have split phase output on a single 3600 so buying another battery and the cable ($140 for cable) ... Didn't see a transfer switch..... And no free refrigerator..... I think Anker has the better deal for Labor day. Sure, if you buy another pecron battery you get almost twice the storage I think, output, ports, and solar. Thoughts? Or did I miss something?
They are in different categories. If you need split phase, it's better to have one single unit so the batteries don't become unbalanced. For example, when you have two power stations hooked together for 240v output, they don't 'load share' or balance the 120v legs, so one unit will drop down faster than the other if your legs aren't exactly the same. The benefit of a single unit that outputs 240v, is that it will discharge unevenly and you don't need to worry about load sharing.
I just received mine and they do not come with the jumper cables now. I need to find the proper plug in for the 30 amp 12 volt outlet and have not found one yet. I do have the Pecron DC charger and it is a easy install and works well to recharge this while driving.
All of the cables should be for sale on their website if you need the exact one seen in the video. You might be able to come up with your own setup for cheaper.
Need 220 in the Philippines (Pecron is available here) so I guess I need (2) E3600 's ??? For me , that with 4 batteries at the present dollar conversion rate would be $7,500 usd plus whatever extras I would need to hook up to my panel etc. Will they charge with a 220 wall outlet or a 220 gas generator ? ( Don't really want to chg. with solar ).
On the XT60 test how do you pull over 400 watts from a 12vX30a outlet? Math says that's 360 watts max? And on the 12vX10a car port you were hitting 180 watts? Which should be maxed at 120 watts? Are you simply testing beyond the specifications? Other than that, really enjoy your videos, thanks you.
I always test for max power available. The rated specs are usually ball park numbers and sometimes you can get more or less power. For example, it says 12v output yet it's actually regulated at 13.4v (which is better than 12v). It says 360w but I got 400w. The DC output is killer on this model, so no complaints from me.
I'm testing the surge capability of the saw. The highest wattage / surge amperage is right when the motor starts up 👍 the wattage drops down significantly once the saw is spinning.
This supplies 30 amps of power at 120v. A 50 amp RV will pull up to 50 amps @ 240v of power. It just depends what you are going to be running at the same time.
Awesome testing! Love the touch screen; offers detailed info. I wish they put a little more thought into the screen text. Wording haphazardly drops to the next line if it doesn't fit and text formatting is not consistent. You'd never know at first that the INPUT and OUTPUT buttons each had 2 buttons (DC & AC). GREAT unit needs a little polish with their touch screen and app. I wonder if the touch screen can be updated with a firmware update? Thanks!
@@Jasonoid Thanks. I will email them! EDIT: I was thinking, since you can set different languages, it's much less work for them to just let the text on each language just haphazardly run-on with no formatting. I emailed Pecron and cc'd you- separate email.
Most likely not. Usually residential solar arrays are wired in strings of series with high levels of voltage. This can only take up to 150v input. If you rewired a few solar panels specifically for this unit, they would work.
Yes, I really want split-phase output, without having to buy 2 units. I don't want the lights in my upstairs bathroom to not work, just because that particular circuit didn't make it in to my "critical loads" panel. I know I can't run *everything* in my home off a unit this size, but I'd like to be able to use small loads in any room of my house. Pass-thru charging is my other must-have. Nice to see that this unit has that.
If you don’t need split phase output, you can use a TT-30P to L14-30R (or whatever your transfer switch uses) adapter that wires both legs to the same 120V hot leg from the TT-30. This won’t work for any 240V loads (using hot to hot is 0V!) but it’ll energize both sides of your panel
I have a question that no one ever talks about on these reviews. Does the E3600 and expansion battery discharge and recharge at the same time, and at the same rate? I have been trying to ask Pecron this same question. But they haven't answered my email, and there is no support phone number. So I would be delited if you can either answer this question, or get the answer from Pecron. Thank you
The power ststion main unit and the expansion batteries attempt to charge and discharge together. In my testing they did a fairly good job staying at similar levels.
Another guy told me the same. When the main unit is expanded with extra batteries, all try to stay in equilibrium- discharge and charge as one large battery. Also, if you're charging (or discharging) directly into an expansion battery, same thing- they stay at similar levels. Pretty cool.
I was calculating earlier this year a setup for a camper van. And I love it to see prices dropping after just 6 months. :D With an extension battery just $2600 and NO FURTHER WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. ALL IN ONE. My setup was also around 3000 euros. But with a lot of electric DIY work. This setup is amazing. 3600w output is awesome.
Sorry to see you left out testing how long the power station will run your downstairs refrigerator. I found that information to be valuable in comparing power stations. Hopefully this was just an oversight and not a change in your testing procedures.
See the video @9:48 On larger units like this I run my transfer switch with two refrigerators and many other appliances. I didn't leave out the test, I just ran more stuff in the test than just a fridge.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for your reply. In your review for the Oupes Mega 3, which has the size battery, you did test your downstair refrigerator. While testing with you transfer switch is helpful, it doesn't provide the same level of consistency that is helpful in making comparisons between units compared to testing the same device for ALL stations. Keep up the great work!
Great looking unit. Read through all your comments. Im here in AZ. At what °F, high end & low end will it not charge. We've had 113-116°summer's. Can this be charged at an EV charging station? For fast charging?
@Jasonoid, have you had a chance to check for high EMI? Some of the other reviewers have stated that they are seeing a lot of interference with RF equipment anywhere close to the unit. This is probably the only thing that's stopping me from ordering one.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for pointing that out. I believe what I was wondering is more EMF than EMI. Do you ever use any RF monitors or radios to test for radiated RF noise?
@@carldavis123 when testing with my AM Radio the RF noise goes away after about 2-3 feet on most power stations. Pretty reasonable to stand that far away and be okay.
While it's a nice unit that is very appropriate for some applications, for someone with few skills with wiring or electronics, I simply disagree with the idea that a power station is the best way to go in this size/weight/price range. Being 79 pounds and $1500, it simply is going to be stationary for 90% of use cases, whether stationary in a house, in an RV, in a boat, or whatever. In which case, I prefer building a system with components. Being stuck with specific specs on the inputs and outputs is problematic to me. By the time the battery fades in 10 or 15 years, the specs of the inputs/outputs will be so obsolete as to be a joke. I can envision having to just plug newer output ports into a 120V power strip plugged into it, long after having one 100W PD and one 27W PD and a bunch of 18W USB-A outputs are not matched to the devices people are charging in the year 2035. Various very compact 300 Ah (3840 Wh) drop-in LiFePO4 batteries weighing from 53-58 lb were priced from $432 to $500 on Prime Day recently. For the extra $1000 for this, you can buy a lot of nice components with a lot more flexibility in both capability, and in location of the various parts of the system. Plus have 25% more energy storage. At what size someone should switch from looking at power stations, to looking at building a custom system with components, depends upon both the person and their needs. Often, for someone who can do some very basic wiring and schematic reading (say, replacing a car battery, and wiring 120V outlets and switches with confidence, but not necessarily figuring out 3-way switches or having soldered electronic kits) the answer is simply the size/price point where they carry the thing around everywhere, versus want it installed somewhere. I guess there are use cases where you install it on a hand truck and use it in various places, though that can be done with components also. If just plunking it in one place, then paying power station prices just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, unless I just so happen to want all displays, controls, inputs and outputs being in one place. More often, I'd want the bulky battery and most of the chargers, inverters, and stuff tucked away someone unseen, and the inputs, outputs, and displays somewhere else, maybe in several locations.
Another great and thorough review. This is for me the perfect setup, I need 240v for my well pump. $3,200 for 7200W and just over 6,000 Wh is a perfect fit for my budget.
Great video Jason. Seems like Pecron hit it out of the ball park with this unit. For me it checks all the boxes I ever wanted. Had this unit been out when I first got into buying solar power banks I would not have had all the different units. Because of the variety of units and the lack of knowledge I had then I bought solar panels for all of the units that were sold as packages. Pecron will allow all the variety of solar arrays that I own to be used which is great. Even better is the that their expansion batteries can be used independently and be charged by themselves too. Had I known about this unit 4 weeks ago I would have seriously considered buying it instead of the EG4 setup I'm getting. I don't need 240 as my needs are for temporary grid outages and all I need is enough power for the fridge a couple of lights and a window unit that can cool the bedroom at night for about 4 to 6 hours. Thanks for your video.
Shelley, Question for you: What are you going to do for EXTENDED power outages, i.e. days-on-end? With the current authoritarian political "Green New Deal" mindset of "ending all fossil fuels," you know those mega-outages are coming and will only increase.
@@danielschear556 I do have redundancies. For example I have 2 2200I generators that could power my batteries, one of them being the companion. I also own 4 12V Fridge/freezers where I can have hooked up to my Jackeries 500, each running a dometic fridge for 44 hours before charging. I've run them with the Jackery non stop for 3 weeks at one time using a 100w solar panel only. I alternate charging the Jackery every other day between them. I would transfer food from the residential fridge and freezer to my 12V. I have a set power and a Joytutus that would be my freezers. The Joytutus has been running as a freezer for 3 years non-stop. I also converted my generators to propane have 6 Jerry cans for ethanol free fuel. I had less stuff than I do now and survived 8 days without power/ or water during the freeze. Just getting ready to put up a small solar array of 1200 watts. Since the Freeze I have accumulated another 200 pounds of propane. I don't want to be off grid as I love air conditioning too much and financing a solar system that would provide me days of comfort with a/c would be astronomical especially since what I pay for electricity is pennies on the dollar. At my age my break even point would never come to be.
@Jasonoid Were you able to control the Pecron from the app remotely without being on the same WIFI network? The app for my E1500LFP won't refresh unless I'm on Bluetooth or on the same WIFI network as it. If I'm on 4g or another WIFI network, I cant do a single thing to control it through the app.
Sunny beach Pecron... thats a banger! If the big names and the 9 or so others don't have these features and capabilities in their newest models, they soon will or had better. I'm trying to justify an AC180 (@$525 US) for my RV so I'm not in the market for these units, but if I was... this damn thing would already be on its way! 😛
Thanks for the coupon 🎉 I just ordered, and i will be waiting to test all my job equipment. Last time i tried my 2000lfp with the big saw, it just couldn't handle it, during lunch time it just handled excellent the hot plate to cook my food, and with the new port i will be able to charge faster with my gas generator before it gets dark in case of emergency
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Jason for this great review which was highly anticipated. I'm excited to see the evolution of the Pecron brand. I loved the all the options of this generator.
SO NICE to see the XT60 30A output. I understand why sometimes 45A or 75A Anderson PP's are used but at the end of the day the smaller PP's are pretty much a radio thing and the XT60 is FAR more universal across RC stuff and all other aspects of Lithium Ion because AMASS has such a perfect selection of connectors with the XT90S, AS150, SH 8.0....So unless you really need a QS-10 or like the QS-8 I can't understand choosing any other connector. It gets expensive stocking parts for all the "popular" connectors and I decided to say fuck it to everyone that was using something besides AMASS lineup, QS, bullets, 4mm 32A bananas with 7 leaves, and JST XH 2.54mm...grudgingly I am considering getting a kit for the VH that's like 3.8mm or 3.9mm thats necessary for the balancing boards that can do several amps...I almost like it more than the JST XH. It can be super time consuming having to custom make a JST cable but I figure if you stock 3S, 4S, 5S, 6S, 7S, 8S, 10S, 12S, 14S, and 16S (in small numbers except for the stuff you do the most. If you do mostly LiFePO4 then 4S, 8S, and 16S are all you really need. Lipo people can do 3S-6S and be pretty good) Just buy a 10 pack of male to female extensions and male to male 200mm+ to cut in half and add some ring terminals to...super cheap on Aliexpress if you shop correctly. If you're still shopping on Amazon for anything related to hobby electronics or LiFePO4 you are paying a 30% premium (sometimes up to 100% premium) to buy from *Aliexpress stocked in the US
I currently have the E2000LFP. I bought it primarily for emergency power grid loss. It work's great but now I'm considering adding the 3600. I could use it for my kitchen appliances(including fridge) and relegate the 2000 to my second refrigerator in the garage. Appreciate the vid!
Hello, good review. For some reason, my DP wont run my 13500 BTU RV AC unit. Any idea why? I thought the surge would be less than 7200 watts. Thank you.
[ sorry off topic - but nice review above ] in this Video -> "Fast Charge yoiur large Power Station off 12 Volts !" - What kind of DC to DC converter are you using ? Thanks !
Hey Jason, great review as always. Best power station reviews on RUclips. I received my Pecron 3600 last week and also have the fast charger. Jason I have Newpowa- 2 x 100 12v -VMP 19.06 , IMP 5.26 solar panels I was planning on installing on my van roof in Parallel for the sake of better partial shade performance. So will I have to connect in series to use these panels with the pecan? Also would it be better to purchase 2 x 100 24w panels and connect parallel. Maybe 1 x 200 12v or 24v. panel. Any suggestions? I want to be able to solar charge and alternator fast charge when driving and solar charger when parked when in town. Im planning on getting ground panels for when we are in full shade. Thanks
You need at least 30V to get the XT60 MPPT to turn on. That’s two or more “12V” panels in series or 1+ “24V” panel Tbh you could probably wire the 12V panels in parallel and slightly overpanel the 150W 12V input. Then connect the 500W Pecron alternator fast charger to one of the XT60 inputs, and leave one XT60 input open for a portable ground array.
Awesome review. I subscribed and look forward to watching your other content. I ordered my E3600LFP on the 16th and expected delivery is Mid-August. I feel even more confident in my purchase after watching your thorough review.
I have a question. My old Bluetti will not accept charge from solar of just 200 W it Hass to be 400 to 600 W in series to get it to even except charging from solar. Now I know this is an older version, but this high capacity pair con, does it have the same? Can you hook 200 W up to it and it will still accept a charge from solar? 200 is about all I have. That charge is the smaller battery units. 600 charge is the large Bluetti. Will 200 watts still be able to put some solar energy into this pecern?
The older Bluetti you have will charge with two 12v solar panels in series, so two 200w panels for 400w, or even two 100w panels in series (it needs 32v miniumun to charge). You don't need three panels / 600w to start the charging. This power station has the low voltage charging port good for 150 watts where you can connect a 200w panel. If you want to use the large charge controllers, you'll also need at least 32v input to charge (at least two panels in series).
Can the expansion batteries charge with solar via its 400w input while cascading with the E3600LFP? Thanks in advance. Great video. Your review of this unit was outstanding. Thanks again
I just ordered the Pecron E300LFP to replace my River 2, because the River 2 couldn't handle the surge of the compressor on my Iceco refrigerators. Looking to get E1500LFP when the price comes down a little more so I can use it to 0ower 2 refrigerators at once in the truck.
Just curious what your thoughts are about Pecron's customer service and their quality? Thanks for another great video. Really considering purchasing this one.
I don't have too much experience with them personally. I know that if something breaks they like to verify what the issue is. That requires sending pictures or videos of the issue to their support group. Sometimes I have heard that they will ship out a part for you to fix it if you are comfortable, if not shipping needs to be paid by the customer which can be costly.
Fantastic unit for the price, thanks for another thorough review! I’ve noticed on a few recent power stations that you got a higher usable watt % via AC over DC. I always thought that is was more efficient to run appliances under DC, as you’re not spending energy powering the inverter. Im guessing that for small loads this still holds true, but wondering if you’ve observed at what point it’s more efficient to run loads under AC instead?
Correct, if the AC load is large there is less loss of power to the inverter over time. If you have a load that sits idle on and off like an AC fridge you'll see less efficiency since the inverter is using more power in the background. Hard to see the hard numbers since ei don't have access to the battery cables on the power station to see the actual current or wattage the inverter uses, it's all an estimation.
Nice review! You showed how it handles a table saw serge at start up. I’m looking for a unit that can handle the surge of an RV air conditioner. Will the 3600 handle that?
Yep, 120 volts X 30 amps = 3600 watts. Surge seems to work well. Hard thing to test numbers wise. Watch the AC testing portion of the video to learn more.
I just ordered this today afer being with out power randomly for over 4 hours, and the promo code on today's date 09/16/24 worked fine and went ahead and added 2 additional batteries and it kept the discount on the entire purchase. Thank you @Jasonoid for the review. PS love the spreadsheet
Every time it's getting more and more clear that campers really do not need the separate component set-up.
What a beast for that price.
Pecron keeps getting better. This one looks darn near perfect.
As always, a nice, detailed review. I just bought the Bluetti AC200L and should have waited for this as it adds 50% more WH, my Wireless charging, double the PV input, better DC voltage connections and includes most of the needed cables, all at about $350 more.
Thanks for doing the work and just hoped for a review about 2 weeks earlier 😁
Wow, thanks for the in-depth video Jason! I think this option is one of the best ones right now. It checks all the boxes I want in a larger 120v model!
Great presentation. I really enjoyed it. Pretty awesome unit with great features. Also, great looking unit.
returning to this rabbit hole. very useful info. Liked and subbed
Great video.. and nice system. Quick question does it has the ability to set time to charge, as in time-of-use with AC features..
Great channel!
Thank you!
That thing is awesome for the price. My only complaint is the fan noise, but it’s decent compared to the competition.
I don’t need 240 volt for things I want to run, but it is really nice for energizing your entire electric panel for your whole house (rather than just a transfer switch).
The fan noise isn't too bad, they don't rev up that high very often, just under peak load.
Just received mine from your previous link. Hope you got credit for it I haven't unboxed yet.
Let me know what you think about it! I love this thing.
@@Jasonoidnext up is finding the best portable solar panels for this thing and extra battery to go off grid with my truck camper.
@@Jasonoid and when my smart charger arrives I will get that installed on my truck.
I could buy it now but if I start working out maybe in a year I'll be able to lift it. 😅
Hey, it's pretty heavy! 😂
I got mine and also purchased the cart. The cart is nice but the unit is still heavy but doable.
Jason, I'm wondering about the fan noise; you only measured at full load, but I'm curious what the decibel reading is at low load, at what wattage do the fans ramp up, and how charging effects the fans? I'm considering this for a home office/audio video studio, and I'm wondering if I should just increase my budget to get a Delta Pro 3?
I really love the new touch screen on this thing, and the DC capacity would be perfect for powering my network gear more efficiently! If say that $0.35 per wH for a fully spec'ed system is really all you could hope for in a mostly portable system...
Fans are really quiet when under normal usage. They are variable and only ramp up loud when under max loud. They are more pleasant than other budget models for sure.
@@Jasonoid Thanks Jason, I appreciate your response! So, being a RUclipsr, would you have a problem shooting videos in the same room with this unit?
@@johndelabretonne2373 I think it would do okay under normal use, running my office and computer 👍
Great video! I'm going to order one! Any suggestion on solar panels that will work well with this battery to use at my home?
Use this process to get six 400 watt panels, three per charge controller:
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Thank you.
You're welcome!
Looks like a fantastic system. I have the 1500 LFP paired with the EP3000, I'm thinking about adding this one. I did have an issue with my Ep3000 and had to have Pecron repair it. Customer has to pay the shipping back to the factory. My biggest complaint with Pecron is the app, it's crap to be honest. I hope they do an update soon.
What kind of issue did you have with the EP3000? I just got mine in the mail yesterday.
@@Bamabrute85 It stopped charging via solar. It would cascade charge from the 1500 but solar charging did not work. I assume they replaced the charge controller. I received it after about 14 days the day I shipped it back to Pecrom, so far so good. Shipping back to them was on me and via FEDEX with Ins the cost was $300. My local UPS store wouldn't ship it.
Thanks for sharing your honest opinion and experience! I'm glad they were able to fix it but it stinks you had to pay shipping.
@@rmclark339 why did you have to pay for shipping if the product was still under warranty? What good is a warranty if you have to pay $300 for shipping?
@@teuton6167 Great question. They told me that's their policy. It was a pretty frustrating back and forth but in the end I needed the EP3000 fixed. Apparently they only have a 30 day window for free return/repairs. I think it's a flaw in their policy that may keep some from buying their products.
What is the comparable Ecoflow product to this? Is it the Delta 3 Pro? This has close to that capacity but at a much lower cost. Would this be a good option compared to the Delta 3 Pro?
The main difference between this one and the DP3 is that the DP3 has 240v output (and slightly higher wattage from the inverter 4000w). If you don't need 240v output, this one is a great option!
Not available in Canada!Why?
You can always email them as ask if theres a planned date for Canada
Does this unit have a amp limit input like the Anker f3800 Solix? And if you were purchasing a solar generator , would you purchase 2 e600lfp with 240 connector or 1 Anker f3800 Solix?. I'm a beginner and I need all the help I can get.
The only issue with having two separate units and running 240v split phase is that if either side of the panel isn't equal, one battery will discharge faster than the other one.
If you need 240v output, I'd recommend the Anker F3800, the Ecoflow Delta Pro 3, or the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra (those all have one unit / one battery system).
Thank you young man for your response.Can I email you with more questions? I'm new to all of this and need a lot of help.
@@CharlesBurks-v5q I offer basic consulting here on this website:
asqme.com/@Jasonoid
So with that XT60 DC output you could transfer storage to another battery's solar input?
Yeah, only at 13v though which most power stations will charge at only 100w with that voltage. Maybe by using a boost converter connected you could get more power.
I am a very unhappy Hysolis Apollo 4K owner....already been through (3) main units and still don't have a properly functioning system. The system is so sensitive and buggy. I am now looking for an alternate setup.
We do need 240V split phase as we run an entire off-grid cabin which has a 240V well pump.
Does this system charge-share and power-share when connected in 240V split phase? I think that's important. The electrical panel is certainly not balanced. So it really does no good to have all that power available if half of it only goes to one side of the panel. Yes, you can swap the cables around when needed but that's one advantage of the Hysolis system. BUT...for me, the Hysolis has never worked that way properly. The charging share is also important. We have several arrays that point in different directions to catch sun throughout the day. If the units don't charge share, again, your power is limited to whichever unit is lowest on power. So having one unit 50% lower than the other limits overall power availability.
Does the system support AC charging via generator? That's our only alternate charge source besides solar. We have to be able to charge that way. The Hysolis is but it's not as simple as they lead you to believe. The wiring from the generator to the Hysolis units must be wired in a specific way and you absolutely must use an inverter generator that produces a pure sign wave. They don't tell you that.
Those are common issues with a dual power station setup. It will be the same with a Bluetti model, Ecoflow model or even a dual Jackery setup.
1) no dual power station setup that know of will balance / load share the split phase legs, including this one so they have to be completely balanced, which is impossible in my opinion.
2) no power station that I know of will charge off a non inverter generator. They all have a sensitive charging system that requires strict voltage and a sine wave.
Sounds like you need a single unit with 240v output so no requirement to worry about balancing the legs OR a 48v LFP battery / all in one inverter-charger. You'll still need a higher quality inverter generator for both systems though.
@@Jasonoid We did end up buying a large, dual-fuel, inverter generator and, after a lot of back and forth between our electrician and Hysolis, figured out how wire it to make it work properly. Hysolis didn't even know how to until we asked the questions. It costs us quite a bit of $ for our electrician to teach them how to charge their own units.
The new Ecoflow 3 is a single unit 240V split phase system. Hysolis actually offered us a full refund and we could have taken it and just purchased the Ecoflow. But...we want to give Hysolis the chance to correct all this. We've spent so much $ tailoring our setup FOR to Hysolis, we need to give it every chance to work. They Hysolis IS supposed to charge share and self balance power so playing the cord swap game isn't supposed to be necessary. We shall see. But, I'm researching systems now just in case it continues to fail. All these systems make it sound easy.... it's just not. It's expensive and time consuming and incredibly sensitive to a lot of outside factors. But, we don't have a choice. Line power is not an option. It's solar power or no power and we have far too much $ invested at this point to not make it work.
@@michaelknapp5456 off grid power is very expensive, espeically when you don't have the sun around to charge your batteries. 10 to 15 years ago the cost was much much more. These new systems are still expensive but they have reduced the cost significantly vs what it was awhile ago. If I was going with a truly off grid setup I'd probably do a 48v server rack system. I hope you can get all the bugs worked out soon! 👍
The solar charging on the 1500LFP would drop if the voc got above 80 out of 95, does this one have a similar issue(at like 135 voc/ 150?)
I didn't notice any issues like that, I had one array pushing 140voc so I couldn't get much higher than that. They definitely made some good changes to the charge controllers. They are much faster
Will this power station run a 220 volt mini -split like a Mr Cool? OR the 120 volt ; 12,000 BTU mini-split?
it only has a 120v inverter, so it won't power 240v loads. It should work fine on a 12,000btu mini split if it's 120v.
Do you know if this qualifies for the Residential Green Energy 30% Tax Credit Program?
Anything 3072wh or larger should qualify.
@@Jasonoidthis makes this deal even better
what is Idle consumption ???
It's in the video, and in my spreadsheet.
Has anyone been able to connect their Wi fi to their cell phone?
If you setup a wifi Hotspot in your phone using 2.4ghz, it should work. It does not support 5.8ghz frequencies.
@Jasonoid I'm using a cell phone hotspot.Because that's all I have to connect with. Does?
It have to be connected to the internet.Does it have to have a regular Wi-Fi rooter?Can't I do Wi-Fi direct from myself?Why is everything different about this particular App. This app got the worst review Review , i've ever seen on google play store.
@@Ebiczebulaniousthere supposed to update the app soon to fix a lot of bugs.
14% IDLE POWER IS LOT OF WASTE ENERGY !!THATS NO, NO FOR ME !
Uhhhh, it's 14% over 12 hours. That's WAY better than most power stations. The Bluetti AC300 and AC500 are double that amount...
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Some really nice and robust DC output options. Pecron is really knocking it out of the park.
1500 pretty rockin price.
Not many power stations with this many features will have that price.
Great review and fantastic bang for your buck with great output and capacity.
One of the best buys right now!
Yes an absolute winner, but you know what I wish one of these power station companies would do? Start a trade-in program. I would love to trade in my Pecron E1500 for this model. If we can do that with cars, why not with power stations? I bet there are many people who would love a deal on a gently-used power station for a cheaper price. Refurbished models are good, and help recycle these things. Hopefully, as an influencer, you can influence the companies you work with to think about this. I think it would be wildly successful.
I am not exactly an influencer but did talk to the company to give engineers certain implemented suggestions as some other companies aswell. Check with BLUETTI for the program you ask about exist.
Bluetti and ecoflow have trade in programs that I know of
@@Tech4Ten Thanks I will check it out. I have a Bluetti, but no Ecoflows.
I totally agree with the TRADE-IN idea, as I also own an E1500LFP.
Where are you from? Used market is solid
Own the E600 and love it, was very close to ordering the E1500LFP but after seeing this the E3600 is hard to pass up. Thanks for the in depth video as usual, we've come to expect nothing less. Have a good one!
I love that this has a 30-amp charging cable with passthrough. Do you think it would work with the UPS feature for 120v whole home backup always connected via a 30-amp generator inlet?
I can't remember the max UPS wattage but it's fairly high, Ill need to look that one up. It might be on their website.
I think it would work. Someone else on YT was unsuccessfully trying the opposite, inputting the regular AC cord but outputting the 30a port to his RV. The battery alone met his 30a demands, but when he connected the 120 AC input, it would overload even with it almost fully charged. Why is that? Because you need to input greater than the output for pass-through / UPS to work? Any way around that? He simply wanted to add some juice as the load was much greater and there was plenty of battery. /watch?v=_qRF3Z6kGUw
I’ve been checking your channel for the whole week everyday hoping you tested this unit. Can’t wait to see the results. Your the best
My only problem with pecron is the app. It needs alot of work. Devices will not stay connected, or connect though Bluetooth, Wi-Fi
Great presentation. I really enjoyed it. Pretty awesome unit with great features. Also, great looking unit.
I own 2 Ankers and 4 different Ecoflows. No Bluetti, no Pecron. What's turned into a "must have" for me is the ability of the Ecoflows to set a percentage above which it will only charge via solar. But if battery gets low enough it draws from AC.
It appears this might have the same capability. In their user manual it shows you can set a "Battery Level at which AC charging stops in UPS mode". Can you confirm that if unit is plugged into AC but battery level is above the percentage you choose, it will not charge from AC. But as soon as it hits that level it draws just enough to keep it at that level?
It’s heavy as hell!
It's as heavy as a 3072wh LFP battery. Big batteries are heavy.
They threw everything they had at it and made it stick. Nicely done.
You are right about 240v outputs. So many features are non essential yet we base our buying decisions on it.
For 99% of people and 99% of scenarios, this unit does everything we’d want it to.
Can you do 400 watts of solar into the battery while also doing 2400 of solar into the head unit?
Hi, great video. A real shame it’s not available in UK…
Pecron is smashing it! The power station market is about like the computer market. If you get one today, next month or next year, you will be able to get a unit with more power and features for less money. Great review!. Nice to see all of that solar power available for testing:D
My solar power is finally at a really good place. With the updated 1200w shed array and the 1600w carport, testing is really fun now!
Is a Smart-Phone/ I-Pad mandatory for use in conjunction with this? I was thinking of getting one for an elderly relative. Thanks.
You don't need a smart app, all the settings are available via the touch screen as well.
@@Jasonoid Thanks.
36kg is into impractical territory for something portable especially as it doesn't look like it has wheels, impressive all the same though.
I don't see someone moving this much, they do have a cool dolly it can sit on if you need something more portable
I just received mine on Wednesday. Other than powering it on, I haven't done anything with it yet. I was waiting for your review to learn more about it before I started messing around with it.
Who cares if it is any good, just so long as it is cheap!
Using just one of the solar charge ports. Can you over panel it as long as you don't exceed the 150 volts going in?
Yes, you can overpanel the power station. You can actually use parallel mode which allows double the amps.
Hmmm just bought the Anker f3800 yesterday with the transfer switch for $3,500 but also got a free everfrost 30 fridge.
Priced out pecron stuff to match Anker but it's tricky. The 3600 model is actually just over 3,000 capacity...Anker is 3,840 capacity. Pecron doesnt have split phase output on a single 3600 so buying another battery and the cable ($140 for cable) ... Didn't see a transfer switch..... And no free refrigerator..... I think Anker has the better deal for Labor day.
Sure, if you buy another pecron battery you get almost twice the storage I think, output, ports, and solar.
Thoughts? Or did I miss something?
They are in different categories. If you need split phase, it's better to have one single unit so the batteries don't become unbalanced. For example, when you have two power stations hooked together for 240v output, they don't 'load share' or balance the 120v legs, so one unit will drop down faster than the other if your legs aren't exactly the same. The benefit of a single unit that outputs 240v, is that it will discharge unevenly and you don't need to worry about load sharing.
I just can't get past the looks. IMO, it looks like a cheap old-time unit.
Everyone has their own preference, I totally understand 👍
Can you use their app to monitor the extension battery, if used on its own ? With the 12V port, it might be all I need for my HAM gear.
The app only connects to the main head unit. If a battery is connected you can see the status of the battery through the app, but not stand alone.
I just received mine and they do not come with the jumper cables now. I need to find the proper plug in for the 30 amp 12 volt outlet and have not found one yet. I do have the Pecron DC charger and it is a easy install and works well to recharge this while driving.
All of the cables should be for sale on their website if you need the exact one seen in the video. You might be able to come up with your own setup for cheaper.
Need 220 in the Philippines (Pecron is available here) so I guess I need (2) E3600 's ???
For me , that with 4 batteries at the present dollar conversion rate would be $7,500 usd plus whatever extras I would need to hook up to my panel etc.
Will they charge with a 220 wall outlet or a 220 gas generator ? ( Don't really want to chg. with solar ).
Available in local online shops in Philippines like Lazada and Shopee.
Excellent comprehensive review. You rock
Useless if I can not bye it in Europe. Is the USA the only market you make videos for?
I don't live in Europe so there is no way to test those products. Do you test or review US designed products on your channel?
On the XT60 test how do you pull over 400 watts from a 12vX30a outlet? Math says that's 360 watts max?
And on the 12vX10a car port you were hitting 180 watts? Which should be maxed at 120 watts?
Are you simply testing beyond the specifications?
Other than that, really enjoy your videos, thanks you.
I always test for max power available. The rated specs are usually ball park numbers and sometimes you can get more or less power.
For example, it says 12v output yet it's actually regulated at 13.4v (which is better than 12v). It says 360w but I got 400w. The DC output is killer on this model, so no complaints from me.
When using a saw you need to actually cut some real lumber 4x4's and see the actual load. Just clicking a switch means nothing!!
I'm testing the surge capability of the saw. The highest wattage / surge amperage is right when the motor starts up 👍 the wattage drops down significantly once the saw is spinning.
Hey Jason I need consultation. This stuff hard to understand
I need help finding what is needed for my cargo van
I can answer simple solar and battery design questions here:
asqme.com/@Jasonoid
Is your Pecr on? With this power station it absolutely will be :-)
LOL
Would this be a good choice for a 50amp RV?
This supplies 30 amps of power at 120v. A 50 amp RV will pull up to 50 amps @ 240v of power. It just depends what you are going to be running at the same time.
If you used both 12V 30A outputs, does the expansion battery show power usage on the screen?
Yes, the screen adds up all the outputs and shows it on the screen.
@@Jasonoid Nice
Awesome testing! Love the touch screen; offers detailed info. I wish they put a little more thought into the screen text. Wording haphazardly drops to the next line if it doesn't fit and text formatting is not consistent. You'd never know at first that the INPUT and OUTPUT buttons each had 2 buttons (DC & AC). GREAT unit needs a little polish with their touch screen and app. I wonder if the touch screen can be updated with a firmware update? Thanks!
That is great feddback! You should email them with a couple screenshots of what you see and they should be able to make a change.
@@Jasonoid Thanks. I will email them! EDIT: I was thinking, since you can set different languages, it's much less work for them to just let the text on each language just haphazardly run-on with no formatting. I emailed Pecron and cc'd you- separate email.
I have a 10 kW solar roof. Can I hook this up to my solar array?
Most likely not. Usually residential solar arrays are wired in strings of series with high levels of voltage. This can only take up to 150v input. If you rewired a few solar panels specifically for this unit, they would work.
Thank you for a very extensive review - you answered all of my questions plus many i didnt think you could ask!
Glad it was helpful!
Yes, I really want split-phase output, without having to buy 2 units. I don't want the lights in my upstairs bathroom to not work, just because that particular circuit didn't make it in to my "critical loads" panel. I know I can't run *everything* in my home off a unit this size, but I'd like to be able to use small loads in any room of my house.
Pass-thru charging is my other must-have. Nice to see that this unit has that.
Thanks for sharing your feedback!
If you don’t need split phase output, you can use a TT-30P to L14-30R (or whatever your transfer switch uses) adapter that wires both legs to the same 120V hot leg from the TT-30.
This won’t work for any 240V loads (using hot to hot is 0V!) but it’ll energize both sides of your panel
I have a question that no one ever talks about on these reviews.
Does the E3600 and expansion battery discharge and recharge at the same time, and at the same rate?
I have been trying to ask Pecron this same question. But they haven't answered my email, and there is no support phone number.
So I would be delited if you can either answer this question, or get the answer from Pecron.
Thank you
The power ststion main unit and the expansion batteries attempt to charge and discharge together. In my testing they did a fairly good job staying at similar levels.
Another guy told me the same. When the main unit is expanded with extra batteries, all try to stay in equilibrium- discharge and charge as one large battery. Also, if you're charging (or discharging) directly into an expansion battery, same thing- they stay at similar levels. Pretty cool.
I was calculating earlier this year a setup for a camper van. And I love it to see prices dropping after just 6 months. :D With an extension battery just $2600 and NO FURTHER WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE. ALL IN ONE. My setup was also around 3000 euros. But with a lot of electric DIY work. This setup is amazing. 3600w output is awesome.
Sorry to see you left out testing how long the power station will run your downstairs refrigerator. I found that information to be valuable in comparing power stations. Hopefully this was just an oversight and not a change in your testing procedures.
See the video @9:48 On larger units like this I run my transfer switch with two refrigerators and many other appliances. I didn't leave out the test, I just ran more stuff in the test than just a fridge.
@@Jasonoid Thanks for your reply. In your review for the Oupes Mega 3, which has the size battery, you did test your downstair refrigerator. While testing with you transfer switch is helpful, it doesn't provide the same level of consistency that is helpful in making comparisons between units compared to testing the same device for ALL stations. Keep up the great work!
Great looking unit. Read through all your comments. Im here in AZ. At what °F, high end & low end will it not charge. We've had 113-116°summer's. Can this be charged at an EV charging station? For fast charging?
@Jasonoid, have you had a chance to check for high EMI? Some of the other reviewers have stated that they are seeing a lot of interference with RF equipment anywhere close to the unit. This is probably the only thing that's stopping me from ordering one.
I showed that test in the video, under AC testing.
@@Jasonoid Thank you for pointing that out. I believe what I was wondering is more EMF than EMI. Do you ever use any RF monitors or radios to test for radiated RF noise?
@@carldavis123 when testing with my AM Radio the RF noise goes away after about 2-3 feet on most power stations. Pretty reasonable to stand that far away and be okay.
While it's a nice unit that is very appropriate for some applications, for someone with few skills with wiring or electronics, I simply disagree with the idea that a power station is the best way to go in this size/weight/price range. Being 79 pounds and $1500, it simply is going to be stationary for 90% of use cases, whether stationary in a house, in an RV, in a boat, or whatever. In which case, I prefer building a system with components.
Being stuck with specific specs on the inputs and outputs is problematic to me. By the time the battery fades in 10 or 15 years, the specs of the inputs/outputs will be so obsolete as to be a joke. I can envision having to just plug newer output ports into a 120V power strip plugged into it, long after having one 100W PD and one 27W PD and a bunch of 18W USB-A outputs are not matched to the devices people are charging in the year 2035.
Various very compact 300 Ah (3840 Wh) drop-in LiFePO4 batteries weighing from 53-58 lb were priced from $432 to $500 on Prime Day recently. For the extra $1000 for this, you can buy a lot of nice components with a lot more flexibility in both capability, and in location of the various parts of the system. Plus have 25% more energy storage.
At what size someone should switch from looking at power stations, to looking at building a custom system with components, depends upon both the person and their needs. Often, for someone who can do some very basic wiring and schematic reading (say, replacing a car battery, and wiring 120V outlets and switches with confidence, but not necessarily figuring out 3-way switches or having soldered electronic kits) the answer is simply the size/price point where they carry the thing around everywhere, versus want it installed somewhere. I guess there are use cases where you install it on a hand truck and use it in various places, though that can be done with components also.
If just plunking it in one place, then paying power station prices just doesn't make a lot of sense to me, unless I just so happen to want all displays, controls, inputs and outputs being in one place. More often, I'd want the bulky battery and most of the chargers, inverters, and stuff tucked away someone unseen, and the inputs, outputs, and displays somewhere else, maybe in several locations.
Great power station, would have to be the Hulk to move it around.
They have a dolly for it if you want. With two poeple it's not bad. Carry handles are beefy!
I think Bruce Banner could handle it.
Another great and thorough review. This is for me the perfect setup, I need 240v for my well pump. $3,200 for 7200W and just over 6,000 Wh is a perfect fit for my budget.
Not available in Canada yet
Yeah, not sure on that timeline. You could always email them to find out.
love talking bull so 49 cents awh that is0.0136 cents a joule sounds like free energy.
Great video Jason. Seems like Pecron hit it out of the ball park with this unit. For me it checks all the boxes I ever wanted. Had this unit been out when I first got into buying solar power banks I would not have had all the different units. Because of the variety of units and the lack of knowledge I had then I bought solar panels for all of the units that were sold as packages. Pecron will allow all the variety of solar arrays that I own to be used which is great. Even better is the that their expansion batteries can be used independently and be charged by themselves too. Had I known about this unit 4 weeks ago I would have seriously considered buying it instead of the EG4 setup I'm getting. I don't need 240 as my needs are for temporary grid outages and all I need is enough power for the fridge a couple of lights and a window unit that can cool the bedroom at night for about 4 to 6 hours. Thanks for your video.
No problems with an EG4 setup, those are sweet and are probably more durable and scalable in the long run. Kinda comparing apples to oranges.
Shelley, Question for you: What are you going to do for EXTENDED power outages, i.e. days-on-end? With the current authoritarian political "Green New Deal" mindset of "ending all fossil fuels," you know those mega-outages are coming and will only increase.
@@danielschear556 I do have redundancies. For example I have 2 2200I generators that could power my batteries, one of them being the companion. I also own 4 12V Fridge/freezers where I can have hooked up to my Jackeries 500, each running a dometic fridge for 44 hours before charging. I've run them with the Jackery non stop for 3 weeks at one time using a 100w solar panel only. I alternate charging the Jackery every other day between them. I would transfer food from the residential fridge and freezer to my 12V. I have a set power and a Joytutus that would be my freezers. The Joytutus has been running as a freezer for 3 years non-stop. I also converted my generators to propane have 6 Jerry cans for ethanol free fuel. I had less stuff than I do now and survived 8 days without power/ or water during the freeze. Just getting ready to put up a small solar array of 1200 watts. Since the Freeze I have accumulated another 200 pounds of propane. I don't want to be off grid as I love air conditioning too much and financing a solar system that would provide me days of comfort with a/c would be astronomical especially since what I pay for electricity is pennies on the dollar. At my age my break even point would never come to be.
@Jasonoid Were you able to control the Pecron from the app remotely without being on the same WIFI network? The app for my E1500LFP won't refresh unless I'm on Bluetooth or on the same WIFI network as it. If I'm on 4g or another WIFI network, I cant do a single thing to control it through the app.
Sunny beach Pecron... thats a banger! If the big names and the 9 or so others don't have these features and capabilities in their newest models, they soon will or had better. I'm trying to justify an AC180 (@$525 US) for my RV so I'm not in the market for these units, but if I was... this damn thing would already be on its way! 😛
Thanks for this video. I am planning to go off grid and know next to nothing about powering my tiny home. This explains a lot. Tks again.
Thanks for the coupon 🎉
I just ordered, and i will be waiting to test all my job equipment. Last time i tried my 2000lfp with the big saw, it just couldn't handle it, during lunch time it just handled excellent the hot plate to cook my food, and with the new port i will be able to charge faster with my gas generator before it gets dark in case of emergency
This is such a beast verse the E2000LFP! You'll be impressed 👍
Thanks, Thanks, Thanks Jason for this great review which was highly anticipated. I'm excited to see the evolution of the Pecron brand. I loved the all the options of this generator.
SO NICE to see the XT60 30A output. I understand why sometimes 45A or 75A Anderson PP's are used but at the end of the day the smaller PP's are pretty much a radio thing and the XT60 is FAR more universal across RC stuff and all other aspects of Lithium Ion because AMASS has such a perfect selection of connectors with the XT90S, AS150, SH 8.0....So unless you really need a QS-10 or like the QS-8 I can't understand choosing any other connector. It gets expensive stocking parts for all the "popular" connectors and I decided to say fuck it to everyone that was using something besides AMASS lineup, QS, bullets, 4mm 32A bananas with 7 leaves, and JST XH 2.54mm...grudgingly I am considering getting a kit for the VH that's like 3.8mm or 3.9mm thats necessary for the balancing boards that can do several amps...I almost like it more than the JST XH. It can be super time consuming having to custom make a JST cable but I figure if you stock 3S, 4S, 5S, 6S, 7S, 8S, 10S, 12S, 14S, and 16S (in small numbers except for the stuff you do the most. If you do mostly LiFePO4 then 4S, 8S, and 16S are all you really need. Lipo people can do 3S-6S and be pretty good) Just buy a 10 pack of male to female extensions and male to male 200mm+ to cut in half and add some ring terminals to...super cheap on Aliexpress if you shop correctly.
If you're still shopping on Amazon for anything related to hobby electronics or LiFePO4 you are paying a 30% premium (sometimes up to 100% premium) to buy from *Aliexpress stocked in the US
Excellent points! Thanks for sharing!
Good Afternoon ! This looks like a winner. TAKE CARE..
Please stay with HAPPY COWBOY local brand and avoid EVIL DRACULA out of town brand.
Sincerely, Ecoflow
Isn't Ecoflow an out of town brand, too? Lol
I currently have the E2000LFP. I bought it primarily for emergency power grid loss. It work's great but now I'm considering adding the 3600. I could use it for my kitchen appliances(including fridge) and relegate the 2000 to my second refrigerator in the garage. Appreciate the vid!
I think the E3600 is a great upgrade to the E2000!
Hello, good review.
For some reason, my DP wont run my 13500 BTU RV AC unit. Any idea why? I thought the surge would be less than 7200 watts. Thank you.
Install a SoftStart to your RV A/Cs.
[ sorry off topic - but nice review above ] in this Video -> "Fast Charge yoiur large Power Station off 12 Volts !" - What kind of DC to DC converter are you using ? Thanks !
I'm using this:
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Hey Jason, great review as always. Best power station reviews on RUclips. I received my Pecron 3600 last week and also have the fast charger. Jason I have Newpowa- 2 x 100 12v -VMP 19.06 , IMP 5.26 solar panels I was planning on installing on my van roof in Parallel for the sake of better partial shade performance. So will I have to connect in series to use these panels with the pecan? Also would it be better to purchase 2 x 100 24w panels and connect parallel. Maybe 1 x 200 12v or 24v. panel. Any suggestions? I want to be able to solar charge and alternator fast charge when driving and solar charger when parked when in town. Im planning on getting ground panels for when we are in full shade. Thanks
You need at least 30V to get the XT60 MPPT to turn on. That’s two or more “12V” panels in series or 1+ “24V” panel
Tbh you could probably wire the 12V panels in parallel and slightly overpanel the 150W 12V input. Then connect the 500W Pecron alternator fast charger to one of the XT60 inputs, and leave one XT60 input open for a portable ground array.
Awesome review. I subscribed and look forward to watching your other content. I ordered my E3600LFP on the 16th and expected delivery is Mid-August. I feel even more confident in my purchase after watching your thorough review.
Good choice! It's a nice unit!
I have a question. My old Bluetti will not accept charge from solar of just 200 W it Hass to be 400 to 600 W in series to get it to even except charging from solar. Now I know this is an older version, but this high capacity pair con, does it have the same? Can you hook 200 W up to it and it will still accept a charge from solar? 200 is about all I have. That charge is the smaller battery units. 600 charge is the large Bluetti. Will 200 watts still be able to put some solar energy into this pecern?
The older Bluetti you have will charge with two 12v solar panels in series, so two 200w panels for 400w, or even two 100w panels in series (it needs 32v miniumun to charge). You don't need three panels / 600w to start the charging.
This power station has the low voltage charging port good for 150 watts where you can connect a 200w panel. If you want to use the large charge controllers, you'll also need at least 32v input to charge (at least two panels in series).
This is for people who don’t need a generator
Can the expansion batteries charge with solar via its 400w input while cascading with the E3600LFP? Thanks in advance. Great video. Your review of this unit was outstanding. Thanks again
I did not test that specifically but it doesn't mention that being an issue in the owners manual. I think it would work just fine.
I just ordered the Pecron E300LFP to replace my River 2, because the River 2 couldn't handle the surge of the compressor on my Iceco refrigerators. Looking to get E1500LFP when the price comes down a little more so I can use it to 0ower 2 refrigerators at once in the truck.
The E1500lfp is awesome! I just used it last week while camping.
I'm new to all of this. Looking for something to run my camper. So is that equal to 300ah batteries?
It's equivalent to about 230ah of 12v LFP batteries.
Just curious what your thoughts are about Pecron's customer service and their quality? Thanks for another great video. Really considering purchasing this one.
I don't have too much experience with them personally. I know that if something breaks they like to verify what the issue is. That requires sending pictures or videos of the issue to their support group. Sometimes I have heard that they will ship out a part for you to fix it if you are comfortable, if not shipping needs to be paid by the customer which can be costly.
You don’t show fridge or tv or both
Fantastic unit for the price, thanks for another thorough review!
I’ve noticed on a few recent power stations that you got a higher usable watt % via AC over DC. I always thought that is was more efficient to run appliances under DC, as you’re not spending energy powering the inverter. Im guessing that for small loads this still holds true, but wondering if you’ve observed at what point it’s more efficient to run loads under AC instead?
Correct, if the AC load is large there is less loss of power to the inverter over time.
If you have a load that sits idle on and off like an AC fridge you'll see less efficiency since the inverter is using more power in the background.
Hard to see the hard numbers since ei don't have access to the battery cables on the power station to see the actual current or wattage the inverter uses, it's all an estimation.
Nice review! You showed how it handles a table saw serge at start up. I’m looking for a unit that can handle the surge of an RV air conditioner. Will the 3600 handle that?
I wasn't able to test it on a RV airconditioner so I can't say for sure, but it did handle the startup load from the saw really well.
Thanks Jason, awesome video, long-awaited😃. I noticed that one of the controllers was actually taking in more than 1200 watts. Nice!!!
That is correct, it sticks right around 1200w, sometimes a little extra 👍
Does the 30A outlet actually provide a full 30A if not how much? Also how large of a surge load in wattage say for 5-10sec will it be able to put out?
Yep, 120 volts X 30 amps = 3600 watts.
Surge seems to work well. Hard thing to test numbers wise. Watch the AC testing portion of the video to learn more.
I ordered mine yesterday. When I was researching it seemed to check all the boxes without a big name or price tag attached to it.
Nice!
I just ordered this today afer being with out power randomly for over 4 hours, and the promo code on today's date 09/16/24 worked fine and went ahead and added 2 additional batteries and it kept the discount on the entire purchase. Thank you @Jasonoid for the review. PS love the spreadsheet
You'll enjoy this unit! It's a beast! Hopefully you won't be out of power again!