Thanks Hobotech for running all these test! I just purchased the E3600 with 4 solar panel package. It’s nice to see real honest run through of a product. 👍🏼
Thank you thank you thank you!❤❤ This is my first Pecron, and charging with solar is the absolute best and is what I’ve been waiting for. 3 SOLAR CONTROLLERS! Wow it’s been great 🎉 I have an array that hits heavy till early morning to 2:30pm and my second array that hits heavy from about 11am till about 8 pm! I was not happy about the proprietary AC wall charge, but now I really don’t care whatsoever because that is not my main case use. I literally have it snapped into the side of the machine, but not plugged into the wall. It’s stationary and I’m not moving my SoGen so I will never lose the cable. I’ve had my unit for about a week now and have been heavily testing it. Not testing it like your test, but just real use. My main goal was to run my 2 led living room lamps, internet router, 55 inch TV, two air purifiers, Roku, one old style table fan and a charging station for laptops and telephones on the other side of the room. It shows that it’s pulling between 90 and 125 Watts all the time depending on what we are using. The goal was to have plenty of power left by Morning that the solar generator could completely recharge every day and it does this extremely easily even on cloudy days.
@@danikaflorence444 The first batch of this item has already been snapped up, I was one of the first batch, This is the best large power station I have ever used! Much better than my AC300 and 35% cheaper!
I sure hope they fix that DC issue because the whole Pecron 15Kwh would be the perect Grid Down or Off Grid setup, and as with all sogens Solar charge times are one of the biggest problems with all battry type so by have around 2500w solar in put is a game changer. Great Video thanks for posting.
We had no problem whipping out my credit card for my new pecron :) I Just ordered ours 2 weeks ago (july 16) .....We on the 2nd batch of orders for the e3600lfp and that should be shipping half way through august we hope. P.S. We will be maxing out this system to 15,360wh as soon as possible, and can not wait to make reviews videos with this bad boy !!!!! P.P.S. YEAH BUDDY !!!!!
For the price pretty great deal. Most of the cons I could care less about except the emf one. I wouldn't sleep next to this. I never use the usb or cig lighter on my power stations. Don't care about apps don't have a smart phone anyways. Great job hobotech like always!
EMF diminishes at a square of the distance, same as microwave oven radiation and fluorescent bulbs, so put this across the room. BTW, a major little known but major EMF culprit is bedside wall plugs with adapters for clock radios etc. You can't be indignant about this if there's a wall wart beside your bed.
I had that same issue with the 1500. Much as I wanted to like Pecron the customer service killed it for me. There was no 1 (800) number to call. It was by email only and took almost a week to get a packing label only to find out I had to pay 100$ shipping and if they found it faulty they would reimburse. Just FYI. And the type C per l port only put out 65 not the 100 watt lie.
Great review Man :) I have a couple other power stations but not quite that big that between them I run my cabin, But really wanted just one unit to run the cabin for 2-3 days of cloud in a row getting a little from solar to keep up until the sun returns, They sound like company that stands behind their products 👍,
I have the original version of this battery. I like the change in the hub specifically the Anderson output instead of the cigarette lighter plug and the USB-C input. I am using my Dr. Prepare to power my 12v refrigerator/freezer. I also charge a few phones, a tablet, and running a powerful fan. The hub is not that powerful. If you plug in more than one device it slows down the charging. I don't use the hub to charge it. I have a 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter to make coffee or to cook meals with an induction cooker. This is my second summer with this battery. I have had zero problems.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Pecron is really coming up with some nice units, with nice features and great pricing. Plus - they keep providing very solid 12v output options with high amperage and connectors. I just love the 12v output options on all of their units for car/truck/van camping. With the exception of the crappy 10a cig outlet, Jackery and Bluetti both have remove all 12v output options on all of their new units which makes them mostly worthless for me with van/truck/van camping.
Excited to hear your review and see it this is worthy. I need a solor generator to run my camper but I need one that can power the AC unit for long times as I'm in a very rural area of southern Florida. Keep on truckin my man!
I received my E3600LFP today. I unboxed it. State of Charge was 65%. I plugged it into an AC outlet. It is charging between 12 and 20 watts when plugged into 120VAC. From the specifications it should do 1800W AC Charging with the 15A cable.
Pecron gifted two of these units to us to try out in trade for an honest review. We live off-grid and most of the power comes from our 6000 watts of solar panels. I paired the two Pecron's together to run our recently installed mini-split AC unit installed in our 24 ft camper trailer. When the compressor on the mini-split kicks on' it's drawing 700 watts and eventually drops down to 150 watts, the lowest number I have seen after running the mini-split all night is 68% power left. During the day the mini-split strictly runs off the solar panels. Haven't tried the 12 volt system in this unit, probably won't either. Our house batteries pretty much cover the rest of our power needs...
The price isn't terrible. Makes me wonder if investing in two of these with the combo connector to power the house, rather than a 8kw generator is a better move. It's just recharging them/maintaining a charge is the only concern. As opposed to keeping propane on hand.
I'm a real fan of batteries and solar but it's just a fact that even a small $350 generator produces 24000 kilowatt hours over the course of 24 hours for 5 gallons (or less). And $500, 4000w produces 96,000kwh for $30 worth of propane. So if you're going to be without power for a week after a natural disaster, there is no reasonably priced substitute for gasoline or patrol generator. However these batteries are excellent for the first night of a disaster when it may not be safe to set up a generator. 3 kilowatt hours is going to keep your refrigerator going about 12 to 20 hours but if you unplug for 2 hours out of every three then you're going to triple that duration. It's going to do a great job of providing you with lighting cable modem and a fan. And it can run a 5000 BTU window unit for about 7 hours. There is a place for having a battery and a generator. But in any serious outage, you still need a generator And remember to change the oil and check the air filter on it per the schedule. And of course don't leave gasoline in it. I prefer propane as you appear to prefer.
Your issue by having a preproduction model may not be fixed in the retail product. I had a similar problem with my e2000lfp and they’ve been making those for a long while!!
Hey, Bud. Nice to see you out there. Sorry I haven't been around to see your show all the time. I've got a couple of 1500 Jack Reese and I'm explaining this tea. Because I was running my fridge and back my pick up. And I plugged in the Jackie and that thing burnt my finger so bad it hurt. Anyways, I'm a member's spirit and a statue of forest figured it out. Ask you, thank you. I'm learning a lot from you. We showed have saved my money more.
I just received my 3600 unit with 2 additional batteries for a total of 9200 whr. I installed it on my boat. I’m using it to run my AC stuff like Air Conditioning and Microwave. I hope those upgrades are already included but for some reason I feel they aren’t. We will see how it goes.
so the extra batteries are an extra 2800watt hours each?, how are they working for you so far, thinking of getting the 3600 with 1 extra battery, thanks for your feedback
@@HumbleLife8 It’s working good so far but I’ve inly had it installed for a week. I think each extra battery is 3000 w/hr and I have 2. I just wired my shore power 30 amp cord to feed directly into the pecron. Then from the Pecron, I feed into the 120v panel on my boat. So it acts like a huge UPS. I am able to run my AC for 12 hrs.
@@bimini99 Hey thats great, I hope it serves you well, I think I will be pulling the trigger on it and maybe one extra battery that is more than enough, we have an electricity plan that is free nights from 9pm to 9am so we will charge these up all night and run our home on battery power all day for 12 hours then rinse and repeat, free energy, thanks for sharing
I want to use that 30 amp d/c out, but I’m not familiar with XT60e-f I am using XT60 solar connectors that came with my 3600lfp, I’m loving them! Much better than my barrel plug on my Bluetti EB240! I’m expecting my EP3000 expansion battery by Tuesday. I saw that it comes with some connectors that use that d/c out. I’m disappointed that Pecron isn’t selling accessories for the 3600LFP on their website.
Yeah, somethings shouldn't be "ENGINEERING SAMPLE" unless they tell you in advance so you can make this a "PREVIEW" instead of a "REVIEW". That's on them. Also, good on you for being honest since I'm sure they provided this 1600USD product for you, to review.
IF you set up dedicated solar panels to recharge this, what would you use? Who's brand/wattage per panel. I'll guess multiple panels in series x 2 strings for the 2 main MPPT controllers.
First of all I’ve had great customer support from Pecron using the chat function. I have a question for you all. Can the 30A dc outputs from the 3600 and from the expansion battery be hooked in parallel? It would be nice to have the 60 A dc for the RV.
Great review and a lot of work to present to us, thank you! With the DC circuit failure, understanding the problem with trying to replicate the test and failure with the second unit, It would be interesting to know if both units shipped to you failed, indicating a system issue, and if so, what did they find and repair to fix it. Pecron units used to have only a 110 volt AC output, which put me off, I am glad to see 120 V on this unit, but am concerned that under a hard load it drops down to 115. Again, thanks for the hard work, look forward to your next reviews.
Cool to see you use the FD200 discharger since you have the 30A output. Definitely brought the time down. I've seen a few other Lipo dischargers come out recently (like SkyRC BD380 which is a slight step up from the BD350 but looks like it has more features)
I believe that the issue with your machine is an isolated case. Last week, I finally received the two E3600LFP units I purchased, and I’ve been using them for the past few days without any problems. Now, I can’t wait to get the 240V box so I can set up a complete system! Looking forward to more tests of your 240V output!
Did you find a source for the Data Cable, or is it just an RJ45 Cat6 ethernet cable? Pecron doesn't identify the cable or offer it as an accessory. @HOBOTECH where did you get your cable?
Thanks for the video and the coupon. Picked up one of these units and I've been happy. Had a question about what do use to be able to use the fully charged battery as a stand alone power source. After charging the battery using the E3600LFP generator, I want to use the battery to power some house hold items like a table top fan. I don't know what equipment that lets me do that.
Really random thing I'd like to see when the display shows the battery voltage: voltage drop when at no load/50% inverter load/100% inverter load. Just curious to see if they are using good cells in there and don't have cheap materials with high resistance like brass connectors, brass bus bars, or undersized wire.
So many choices. So I DJ and have a pair of Evolve 30 Ms along with MacBook Pro and Mackie channel mixer. However when needed I do run a ham radio setup. This might be the one. It appears I can direct connect Ham radio but will it be clean enough?
Hello, after hurricane Milton, I have been looking at solar generator. I'm considering purchasing a qty of 2 Pecron E3600LFP & 8 Pecron EP3000. Can this configuration hook up to a transfer switch to my home breaker box?
I watched your video last night and I am considering getting this battery generator. My situation is that I live in FL where the potential for power outages is fairly high during the summer months however we can go many years with no outages. I have a dedicated 50a outlet that I can plug my gas/propane generator into using a 30/50 adaptor. I would want to use the gas generator during the daytime and the Perron in the evenings. So can I recharge the Perron with the gas generator by plugging it into a 110v on the generator or should I plug it into a wall outlet? Perhaps it does not matter? Thanks for your sound advice. JR
Thank you very much. I've been wanting solid info on this. I have an e2000 with 2 batteries but the 30 Amp inverter would make a huuuge difference. I can put the e2000 innthe shop and be 100% off grid.
@@HOBOTECH That's rather glib of you, especially since you don't provide any proof for your rash statement. At any rate, I hope you're wrong because I have two Dabbsson 1300's along with two expansion batteries that I use in UPS mode to support my wife's use of an oxygen concentrator. So far, all is going well. No joke!
They also need to focus on fixing their app. I have problems remotely controlling the E1500LFP while away from home. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...
Another fantastic review, per your usual standards. My question concerns the solar charging rate. You said it would take about 2.5 hours to go from 0 to 100%, if you get the full 2,500 watts of possible input. I thought that was odd, since the battery is just under 3,100wh. I would expect this to charge in 1.5 hours, at most, unless there is something which slows the charging down substantially, as it completes topping off?
I guess to get around the AC charging while using 240v is to use AC to DC charging to mimic solar charging. The EG4 Chargeverter is what I am thinking of. Does anyone think this may work or if there are cheaper alternatives to charge this Pecron with a gas generator while utilizing the 240v power?
Dear professor, thanks for making me purchase ecoflow river 2 after watching your videos. However I wonder if you have plans to review wall mounted high frequency solar inverters without built-in batteries. I would love to see different things from you.
I noticed there was a temperature reading on the Pecron display showing up to 95 C during the battery capacity test(s). That's 203 F. Very hot. Perhaps the cooling fans weren't running at the right speed.
how do I become a protect tester? I would love a lab like yours. one question will it charge the battery at a spacial time of the day or night to save money from my power company.. just loved what I have learned. thanks....
@@HOBOTECH Got it, thank you for the quick response. What would you purchase? EcoFlow Delta Pro 3 or Pecron E3600LFP solely for charging an EV? 240v 30 amps. Thank you!
I only have a little Pecron...it's very portable though and goes everywhere with me. It's easy to charge up but full charge doesn't last very long (ask wife). Other downside is it's very temperature sensitive and almost non-existent for low temps
So would you buy this to power your freezer full of food when you are told to evacuate because of hurricane? I live on Florida gulf coast and this year was back to back storms and I stayed to feed my gas powered generator. Also can you suggest solar panels to charge it up daily. If necessary? This is the first time seeing your channel and I enjoyed it. I am old and NOT techie or electrician. Thanks in advance. John
Do any of these larger power stations allow me to stop charging when the unit reaches 80% charge? Or maybe they all do? Thanks for all your great videos!
Hey Prof, what does E stand for in the XT60E connectors? I know it indicates it's mountable with mounting holes, but what does E stand for? Just curious. Thx. EDIT: "Edge"? As in like a flange?
I hope I don't regret the decision to go with Pecron for my portable/emergency power. The EP3000 I purchased had to be returned because the solar charge controller stopped working. Pecron did fix it under warranty and it working fine at the moment. One word of caution, after 30 days the buyer is responsible for shipping even if the power station is still under warranty. The retail version of the 3600 LFP will be out soon so I hope they fixed the issue HOBOTECH experienced.
Must just be for the bigger or older units? my e300lfp blew its ac circuit after about 2 months or so. I sent a video of it not working and they sent me a new one.
@@LeoLiburon I was told that had the issue occurred within the first 30 days of purchase they would have sent me a new one but since I was outside the 30 day window I had to ship it back at my expense. They did repair it and then sent it back to me at their expense. My concern is that these units don't stand up over time to heavy use.
@rmclark339 I'm saying I had mine over 60 days, and they sent me a new one, so the difference might be the size, or it might be the cost, it is the smallest unit. We shall see iirc many like Bob ramblin run them 24/7 with near no issue. It's a dice everyone has to roll name brand or not. I will stick with them cause it was no hassle even when I did have an issue. If I get burned, then I will think about paying 2 or 3 times the price for another name.
Yes, this is true....we have been running our e2000lfp (full 8kw system) (24-7-365 since late 2022) and we have been running our e1500lfp (full 7.5kw system) (24-7-365 since late 2023) all documented on videos on the channel since the beginning :) We split the load for my workshop and they run it with 3,000 watts of solar panels :) note: every company has pos and negs. but we have been happy with what we bought and received from pecron so far. (We own almost their entire lineup now, from the e2000lfp forward, including the 500 watt car charger and we just ordered the e3600lfp last week) Once we max out the e3600lfp with 4 batteries very soon, we will run the entire shop on that 15,360wh system and put the e200lfp (8.000wh) in our rv :) P.S. I have no problem whipping out my pecron when I need it....Great, Thanks a lot hobotech, now you have me doing it as well.....LOL ^ That sounds so bad when I read this !!!!! HAHAHAHAHAA !!!!!
I had high hopes for this unit. Other youtubers gave it glowing reviews, but The Professor really breaks it down and tells us like it is. Gonna have to pass until/unless they address the problems.
I'm probably the only reviewer that was a FDA certified tester in a previous life. I also don't bend over for brand deals and reject over 99% of offers.
@@HOBOTECH Your integrity is an increasing rarity and a much welcome relief, especially in this economy. I thank you on behalf of all those on a fixed income who aren't tech savvy!
QUESTION: BOUGHT 2 PECRONS using HOBOTECH code. Will it cause problems if I leave the Pecron 1500 plugged in 24/7 and have my tv connected to the pecron as a battery backup?
Regarding the QA person who was fired: WHAT IF it worked during testing, and something got knocked around in shipping? We've all seen what rough handling can do, and sometimes the outside of the box doesn't show apparent damage. Pecron should at least test & evaluate the defective unit first, then fire away.
Just bought a 200L been thinking I should’ve waited for this. Full 30 amp from the 30 amp plug. And I think the 30 amp is bi directional where 200l is only discharge.
It’d be even nicer if this unit had 2-30amps so you could UPS pass through and charged your battery while being back up and running your camper. Even better run 30 amp out of your generator then just turn off your generator when your happy with the charge level and not have to move around plugs.
Have been considering a diesel generator for backup power when winter storms hit in Montana. Haven't gone without power for more than 12hrs yet, but I'd like to put a couple of these on a transfer switch when the retail versions are available. The massive solar input is what I'm drawn to. Is there any other brand of SoGen that would work like this (at this price)?
thank you for your solid review. As I am new to figuring out solar back up (primarily for home refrig/freezer and large chest free serduring power outage. I checked out your store link - and am looking at Renogy solar panels which I assume you would not link unless they work with the Pecron E3600. Looking at prime deals - is this compatible: Renogy 400W Lightweight Portable Solar Suitcase? I appreciate your help.
I love Pecron but the fact that they sneakily rushed out a beta unit to you is gonna make me think twice about going with them again when my 2000lfp eventually dies in 10+ years. At least Montek was honest with you. Can't wait to see your review on their final units btw. Also, Pecron still having DC burnout issues is also not inspiring. They have a history of that and really need to stop cutting corners on their DC stuff.
can we constantly use the pecron down to 5% of with power. i remember someone said lifepo4 battery would be damaged if we discharge below 10% or let it dead at 0%
The only problem with any lithium batteries in any power station is if you leave it at zero percent for too long. They reserve some power for the computer...so zero isnt really zero....once it is then the computer can no longer control the charging.
hey prof hobo, did you ever try a Vtoman Jump 1800? if not, can you please bring it ro your secret lab to test it and compare it with other solar generators?
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Those Pecrons sound Well Endowed!
This video is rated Pecron 13
@BeatMalls-pl1sg LOL
Thanks Hobotech for running all these test! I just purchased the E3600 with 4 solar panel package. It’s nice to see real honest run through of a product. 👍🏼
Thank you thank you thank you!❤❤
This is my first Pecron, and charging with solar is the absolute best and is what I’ve been waiting for. 3 SOLAR CONTROLLERS! Wow it’s been great 🎉 I have an array that hits heavy till early morning to 2:30pm and my second array that hits heavy from about 11am till about 8 pm!
I was not happy about the proprietary AC wall charge, but now I really don’t care whatsoever because that is not my main case use. I literally have it snapped into the side of the machine, but not plugged into the wall. It’s stationary and I’m not moving my SoGen so I will never lose the cable. I’ve had my unit for about a week now and have been heavily testing it. Not testing it like your test, but just real use. My main goal was to run my 2 led living room lamps, internet router, 55 inch TV, two air purifiers, Roku, one old style table fan and a charging station for laptops and telephones on the other side of the room. It shows that it’s pulling between 90 and 125 Watts all the time depending on what we are using. The goal was to have plenty of power left by Morning that the solar generator could completely recharge every day and it does this extremely easily even on cloudy days.
This item isn’t even out yet.
@@danikaflorence444 The first batch of this item has already been snapped up, I was one of the first batch, This is the best large power station I have ever used! Much better than my AC300 and 35% cheaper!
@@danikaflorence444Wrong
@@danikaflorence444 lol
Pretty sure it's 2 not 3 solar charger controllers.
I really like the 2400-watt (max) solar input and the TT-30amp outlet 👍 Thanks, Prof. Hobo! 🤠
Thanks for your honesty and review. Always better to spend more on more reputable products.
I sure hope they fix that DC issue because the whole Pecron 15Kwh would be the perect Grid Down or Off Grid setup, and as with all sogens Solar charge times are one of the biggest problems with all battry type so by have around 2500w solar in put is a game changer. Great Video thanks for posting.
Great review. Very witty. Really amusing. Love Hobotech.❤
Thanks for your honesty!
The pecron’s are now shipping from California.
Pre order sales are shipping, i just received my FedEx tracking number
We had no problem whipping out my credit card for my new pecron :)
I Just ordered ours 2 weeks ago (july 16) .....We on the 2nd batch of orders for the e3600lfp and that should be shipping half way through august we hope.
P.S. We will be maxing out this system to 15,360wh as soon as possible, and can not wait to make reviews videos with this bad boy !!!!!
P.P.S. YEAH BUDDY !!!!!
Your battery capacity tests ROCK!!!!
This is why I love your channel. I am tempted, but may wait for their retail version. Meanwhile, I will go and browse what else they offer.
The phrasing is off the charts
Thanks for showing everything. The good and the bad.
For the price pretty great deal. Most of the cons I could care less about except the emf one. I wouldn't sleep next to this. I never use the usb or cig lighter on my power stations. Don't care about apps don't have a smart phone anyways. Great job hobotech like always!
wonder what the emf readings are sitting over a battery in a Tesla
@@gradylucas5265 That's a great question!
EMF diminishes at a square of the distance, same as microwave oven radiation and fluorescent bulbs, so put this across the room. BTW, a major little known but major EMF culprit is bedside wall plugs with adapters for clock radios etc. You can't be indignant about this if there's a wall wart beside your bed.
My pecron lfp 2000 has been wonderful so far. Got it on preorder from hobos link for like $659 shipped
U got a great deal, I paid double for mine, I also add the additional batteries, I'm been using my set up without any issues.
I had that same issue with the 1500. Much as I wanted to like Pecron the customer service killed it for me. There was no 1 (800) number to call. It was by email only and took almost a week to get a packing label only to find out I had to pay 100$ shipping and if they found it faulty they would reimburse. Just FYI. And the type C per l port only put out 65 not the 100 watt lie.
Great review Man :) I have a couple other power stations but not quite that big that between them I run my cabin, But really wanted just one unit to run the cabin for 2-3 days of cloud in a row getting a little from solar to keep up until the sun returns, They sound like company that stands behind their products 👍,
I have the original version of this battery.
I like the change in the hub specifically the Anderson output instead of the cigarette lighter plug and the USB-C input.
I am using my Dr. Prepare to power my 12v refrigerator/freezer.
I also charge a few phones, a tablet, and running a powerful fan.
The hub is not that powerful.
If you plug in more than one device it slows down the charging.
I don't use the hub to charge it.
I have a 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter to make coffee or to cook meals with an induction cooker.
This is my second summer with this battery.
I have had zero problems.
Excellent presentation. Thank you. Pecron is really coming up with some nice units, with nice features and great pricing. Plus - they keep providing very solid 12v output options with high amperage and connectors. I just love the 12v output options on all of their units for car/truck/van camping. With the exception of the crappy 10a cig outlet, Jackery and Bluetti both have remove all 12v output options on all of their new units which makes them mostly worthless for me with van/truck/van camping.
You are the best, thanks for doing what you do.
Excited to hear your review and see it this is worthy. I need a solor generator to run my camper but I need one that can power the AC unit for long times as I'm in a very rural area of southern Florida. Keep on truckin my man!
I received my E3600LFP today. I unboxed it. State of Charge was 65%. I plugged it into an AC outlet.
It is charging between 12 and 20 watts when plugged into 120VAC.
From the specifications it should do 1800W AC Charging with the 15A cable.
Pecron gifted two of these units to us to try out in trade for an honest review. We live off-grid and most of the power comes from our 6000 watts of solar panels. I paired the two
Pecron's together to run our recently installed mini-split AC unit installed in our 24 ft camper trailer. When the compressor on the mini-split kicks on' it's drawing 700 watts and eventually drops down to 150 watts, the lowest number I have seen after running the mini-split all night is 68% power left. During the day the mini-split strictly runs off the solar panels. Haven't tried the 12 volt system in this unit, probably won't either. Our house batteries pretty much cover the rest of our power needs...
do you have the link to your review on the two 3600 units? are you still using them and how is it going so far?
The price isn't terrible. Makes me wonder if investing in two of these with the combo connector to power the house, rather than a 8kw generator is a better move. It's just recharging them/maintaining a charge is the only concern. As opposed to keeping propane on hand.
I'm a real fan of batteries and solar but it's just a fact that even a small $350 generator produces 24000 kilowatt hours over the course of 24 hours for 5 gallons (or less).
And $500, 4000w produces 96,000kwh for $30 worth of propane.
So if you're going to be without power for a week after a natural disaster, there is no reasonably priced substitute for gasoline or patrol generator.
However these batteries are excellent for the first night of a disaster when it may not be safe to set up a generator. 3 kilowatt hours is going to keep your refrigerator going about 12 to 20 hours but if you unplug for 2 hours out of every three then you're going to triple that duration.
It's going to do a great job of providing you with lighting cable modem and a fan. And it can run a 5000 BTU window unit for about 7 hours.
There is a place for having a battery and a generator. But in any serious outage, you still need a generator
And remember to change the oil and check the air filter on it per the schedule.
And of course don't leave gasoline in it.
I prefer propane as you appear to prefer.
I'm waiting for the 2.1 gigawatt Mr Fusion connector cable. Drastically reduces charge times. I heard Jackery is coming out with one.
U R having 2 much fun playing with your Pecron, Hobo!
Compared to my smal Pecron e600 you should get at least 7 hours of 5000 btu ac without solar.
Thanks for telling it to us straight, bummer your test pecron went limp on the dc.
Your issue by having a preproduction model may not be fixed in the retail product. I had a similar problem with my e2000lfp and they’ve been making those for a long while!!
Hey, Bud. Nice to see you out there. Sorry I haven't been around to see your show all the time. I've got a couple of 1500 Jack Reese and I'm explaining this tea. Because I was running my fridge and back my pick up. And I plugged in the Jackie and that thing burnt my finger so bad it hurt. Anyways, I'm a member's spirit and a statue of forest figured it out. Ask you, thank you. I'm learning a lot from you. We showed have saved my money more.
I just received my 3600 unit with 2 additional batteries for a total of 9200 whr. I installed it on my boat. I’m using it to run my AC stuff like Air Conditioning and Microwave. I hope those upgrades are already included but for some reason I feel they aren’t.
We will see how it goes.
so the extra batteries are an extra 2800watt hours each?, how are they working for you so far, thinking of getting the 3600 with 1 extra battery, thanks for your feedback
@@HumbleLife8
It’s working good so far but I’ve inly had it installed for a week. I think each extra battery is 3000 w/hr and I have 2. I just wired my shore power 30 amp cord to feed directly into the pecron. Then from the Pecron, I feed into the 120v panel on my boat. So it acts like a huge UPS. I am able to run my AC for 12 hrs.
@@bimini99 Hey thats great, I hope it serves you well, I think I will be pulling the trigger on it and maybe one extra battery that is more than enough, we have an electricity plan that is free nights from 9pm to 9am so we will charge these up all night and run our home on battery power all day for 12 hours then rinse and repeat, free energy, thanks for sharing
I want to use that 30 amp d/c out, but I’m not familiar with XT60e-f
I am using XT60 solar connectors that came with my 3600lfp, I’m loving them! Much better than my barrel plug on my Bluetti EB240! I’m expecting my EP3000 expansion battery by Tuesday. I saw that it comes with some connectors that use that d/c out.
I’m disappointed that Pecron isn’t selling accessories for the 3600LFP on their website.
Yeah, somethings shouldn't be "ENGINEERING SAMPLE" unless they tell you in advance so you can make this a "PREVIEW" instead of a "REVIEW". That's on them. Also, good on you for being honest since I'm sure they provided this 1600USD product for you, to review.
Good Evening Tom ! Thank You. TAKE CARE..
IF you set up dedicated solar panels to recharge this, what would you use? Who's brand/wattage per panel. I'll guess multiple panels in series x 2 strings for the 2 main MPPT controllers.
That's a nice unit for home owners, that could power my two refrigerators, emergency window unit, and most of my kitchen appliances.
Highly amusing, " ..for those who like really big Pecrons..."
Very great info and fantastic review. Thanks!!
The 'Deadhed' video playing during the UPS test was an admirable choice.
First of all I’ve had great customer support from Pecron using the chat function. I have a question for you all. Can the 30A dc outputs from the 3600 and from the expansion battery be hooked in parallel? It would be nice to have the 60 A dc for the RV.
Great review and a lot of work to present to us, thank you!
With the DC circuit failure, understanding the problem with trying to replicate the test and failure with the second unit, It would be interesting to know if both units shipped to you failed, indicating a system issue, and if so, what did they find and repair to fix it.
Pecron units used to have only a 110 volt AC output, which put me off, I am glad to see 120 V on this unit, but am concerned that under a hard load it drops down to 115.
Again, thanks for the hard work, look forward to your next reviews.
Cool to see you use the FD200 discharger since you have the 30A output. Definitely brought the time down. I've seen a few other Lipo dischargers come out recently (like SkyRC BD380 which is a slight step up from the BD350 but looks like it has more features)
At over 3 kw could also potentially qualify for 30percent tax credit if meeting other requirements
I believe that the issue with your machine is an isolated case. Last week, I finally received the two E3600LFP units I purchased, and I’ve been using them for the past few days without any problems. Now, I can’t wait to get the 240V box so I can set up a complete system! Looking forward to more tests of your 240V output!
Did you find a source for the Data Cable, or is it just an RJ45 Cat6 ethernet cable? Pecron doesn't identify the cable or offer it as an accessory. @HOBOTECH where did you get your cable?
Thank you!!! I ordered mine for my motorhome. Amazing!
Thumbs up 👍 for testing this out.
Thanks for the video and the coupon. Picked up one of these units and I've been happy. Had a question about what do use to be able to use the fully charged battery as a stand alone power source. After charging the battery using the E3600LFP generator, I want to use the battery to power some house hold items like a table top fan. I don't know what equipment that lets me do that.
Really random thing I'd like to see when the display shows the battery voltage: voltage drop when at no load/50% inverter load/100% inverter load. Just curious to see if they are using good cells in there and don't have cheap materials with high resistance like brass connectors, brass bus bars, or undersized wire.
So many choices. So I DJ and have a pair of Evolve 30 Ms along with MacBook Pro and Mackie channel mixer. However when needed I do run a ham radio setup. This might be the one. It appears I can direct connect Ham radio but will it be clean enough?
Hello, after hurricane Milton, I have been looking at solar generator. I'm considering purchasing a qty of 2 Pecron E3600LFP & 8 Pecron EP3000. Can this configuration hook up to a transfer switch to my home breaker box?
yes , and shoot , with that whole full system if you added the 2400 watts of solar panels, you could technically go off the grid with your whole house
is it 240v and 60amps combined? would you be able to wire a circuit panel using a 60amps breaker for the 240v line?
Great bang for your buck compared to the big brands
I watched your video last night and I am considering getting this battery generator. My situation is that I live in FL where the potential for power outages is fairly high during the summer months however we can go many years with no outages. I have a dedicated 50a outlet that I can plug my gas/propane generator into using a 30/50 adaptor. I would want to use the gas generator during the daytime and the Perron in the evenings. So can I recharge the Perron with the gas generator by plugging it into a 110v on the generator or should I plug it into a wall outlet? Perhaps it does not matter? Thanks for your sound advice. JR
Thank you very much. I've been wanting solid info on this. I have an e2000 with 2 batteries but the 30 Amp inverter would make a huuuge difference. I can put the e2000 innthe shop and be 100% off grid.
Hey Professor, is that a new Peavey amp? Very nice little portable rig.
Love the detailed testing!
I can’t believe you double fisted your Pecron. Impressive. Nice reviews.
Bummer. I've been going back and forth between this 1 and the Dabbsson 3500. Looks like I'll go with the Dabbsson. Thanks!!!
That brand is a joke.
@HOBOTECH Dabbsson is no good??? Thanks in advance. Much appreciated!
@@HOBOTECH That's rather glib of you, especially since you don't provide any proof for your rash statement. At any rate, I hope you're wrong because I have two Dabbsson 1300's along with two expansion batteries that I use in UPS mode to support my wife's use of an oxygen concentrator. So far, all is going well. No joke!
They also need to focus on fixing their app. I have problems remotely controlling the E1500LFP while away from home. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't...
My E3600LFP trips when I get past 1800 watts on one of the front plugs. It looks like yours runs well over 4000 watts.
Another fantastic review, per your usual standards. My question concerns the solar charging rate. You said it would take about 2.5 hours to go from 0 to 100%, if you get the full 2,500 watts of possible input. I thought that was odd, since the battery is just under 3,100wh. I would expect this to charge in 1.5 hours, at most, unless there is something which slows the charging down substantially, as it completes topping off?
Thats the rate at 1700w with the AC cable only.
With a big enough alternator you should be able to do two of the Pecron 500w alternator chargers.
I guess to get around the AC charging while using 240v is to use AC to DC charging to mimic solar charging. The EG4 Chargeverter is what I am thinking of. Does anyone think this may work or if there are cheaper alternatives to charge this Pecron with a gas generator while utilizing the 240v power?
Dear professor, thanks for making me purchase ecoflow river 2 after watching your videos. However I wonder if you have plans to review wall mounted high frequency solar inverters without built-in batteries. I would love to see different things from you.
I noticed there was a temperature reading on the Pecron display showing up to 95 C during the battery capacity test(s). That's 203 F. Very hot. Perhaps the cooling fans weren't running at the right speed.
Screen bug. It's actually in Fahrenheit.
how do I become a protect tester? I would love a lab like yours. one question will it charge the battery at a spacial time of the day or night to save money from my power company.. just loved what I have learned. thanks....
Had a quick question... I saw the units operating around 71°C & 84°C! Is that correct? That seems almost double what is advertised and way too hot!
It's a screen bug. The reading is in F.
@@HOBOTECH Got it, thank you for the quick response. What would you purchase? EcoFlow Delta Pro 3 or Pecron E3600LFP solely for charging an EV? 240v 30 amps. Thank you!
I only have a little Pecron...it's very portable though and goes everywhere with me. It's easy to charge up but full charge doesn't last very long (ask wife). Other downside is it's very temperature sensitive and almost non-existent for low temps
thank you for the failure info looking forward to the update
What is the maximum length of the battery interconnects (center to center) ? And what's the deal w/ XT60E, won't XT60 work?
So would you buy this to power your freezer full of food when you are told to evacuate because of hurricane? I live on Florida gulf coast and this year was back to back storms and I stayed to feed my gas powered generator. Also can you suggest solar panels to charge it up daily. If necessary? This is the first time seeing your channel and I enjoyed it. I am old and NOT techie or electrician.
Thanks in advance.
John
Get the panels they recommend if you're not sure.
Do any of these larger power stations allow me to stop charging when the unit reaches 80% charge? Or maybe they all do? Thanks for all your great videos!
The major brands offer that feature.
So the question I want to know is can you have all the expansion batteries and the two main units running 240 watts.
Yes
Is it feasible to use UPS pass thru charging while hooked up to shorepower/pedestal to power the RV and charge the 3600 plus expansion batteries?
can you compare solar generators? I've heard a lot about the Flex Tactical 1500 Power Station but can't find competition comparisons
You won't because it's vaporware.
Hey Prof, what does E stand for in the XT60E connectors? I know it indicates it's mountable with mounting holes, but what does E stand for? Just curious. Thx. EDIT: "Edge"? As in like a flange?
My wife asked me who I’m gonna please with that little pecron?! I said me! I love my little pecron!
What is your recommendation from everything you have tested?
Buy American.
I hope I don't regret the decision to go with Pecron for my portable/emergency power. The EP3000 I purchased had to be returned because the solar charge controller stopped working. Pecron did fix it under warranty and it working fine at the moment. One word of caution, after 30 days the buyer is responsible for shipping even if the power station is still under warranty. The retail version of the 3600 LFP will be out soon so I hope they fixed the issue HOBOTECH experienced.
Must just be for the bigger or older units? my e300lfp blew its ac circuit after about 2 months or so. I sent a video of it not working and they sent me a new one.
@@LeoLiburon I was told that had the issue occurred within the first 30 days of purchase they would have sent me a new one but since I was outside the 30 day window I had to ship it back at my expense. They did repair it and then sent it back to me at their expense. My concern is that these units don't stand up over time to heavy use.
@rmclark339 I'm saying I had mine over 60 days, and they sent me a new one, so the difference might be the size, or it might be the cost, it is the smallest unit. We shall see iirc many like Bob ramblin run them 24/7 with near no issue. It's a dice everyone has to roll name brand or not. I will stick with them cause it was no hassle even when I did have an issue. If I get burned, then I will think about paying 2 or 3 times the price for another name.
Yes, this is true....we have been running our e2000lfp (full 8kw system) (24-7-365 since late 2022)
and we have been running our e1500lfp (full 7.5kw system) (24-7-365 since late 2023)
all documented on videos on the channel since the beginning :)
We split the load for my workshop and they run it with 3,000 watts of solar panels :)
note: every company has pos and negs. but we have been happy with what we bought and received from pecron so far.
(We own almost their entire lineup now, from the e2000lfp forward, including the 500 watt car charger and we just ordered the e3600lfp last week)
Once we max out the e3600lfp with 4 batteries very soon, we will run the entire shop on that 15,360wh system and put the e200lfp (8.000wh) in our rv :)
P.S. I have no problem whipping out my pecron when I need it....Great, Thanks a lot hobotech, now you have me doing it as well.....LOL
^ That sounds so bad when I read this !!!!! HAHAHAHAHAA !!!!!
I had high hopes for this unit. Other youtubers gave it glowing reviews, but The Professor really breaks it down and tells us like it is. Gonna have to pass until/unless they address the problems.
I'm probably the only reviewer that was a FDA certified tester in a previous life. I also don't bend over for brand deals and reject over 99% of offers.
@@HOBOTECH Your integrity is an increasing rarity and a much welcome relief, especially in this economy. I thank you on behalf of all those on a fixed income who aren't tech savvy!
Great Video. If I bought 2 of these could I eventually use them as part of a Hybrid system and connect to my main panels?
Your solar array needs to be within the solar input voltage range.
Good value but I’m partial to Bluetti for their performance and Ecoflow for their customer support
This is a bulked up bluetti but want longer term reliability however the ac300 needs a separate battery
QUESTION: BOUGHT 2 PECRONS using HOBOTECH code. Will it cause problems if I leave the Pecron 1500 plugged in 24/7 and have my tv connected to the pecron as a battery backup?
Are you able to partially charge an electric vehicle with the E3600LFP with without combining two units with a 240V plug?
You can level 1 charge any EV with any power station over 2000w
Hopefully units like this will motivate Bluetti to lower their prices.💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Regarding the QA person who was fired: WHAT IF it worked during testing, and something got knocked around in shipping? We've all seen what rough handling can do, and sometimes the outside of the box doesn't show apparent damage. Pecron should at least test & evaluate the defective unit first, then fire away.
Just bought a 200L been thinking I should’ve waited for this. Full 30 amp from the 30 amp plug. And I think the 30 amp is bi directional where 200l is only discharge.
Yeah spoke too fast of course you cover it
It’d be even nicer if this unit had 2-30amps so you could UPS pass through and charged your battery while being back up and running your camper. Even better run 30 amp out of your generator then just turn off your generator when your happy with the charge level and not have to move around plugs.
PH, Dang I was all over that until I saw no 24vdc for my ZB!
So I can't use my XT60I on the 12V 30amp XT60EF to connect my diesel heater, is this correct?
You just need an adapter.
Did you ever find XT60EF male to XT60 female (or male) adapter? If so, where? Thx.
@@rgraz4929 I never looked for the adapter or bought the unit.
Great video.
IM waiting for mine to ship
Have been considering a diesel generator for backup power when winter storms hit in Montana. Haven't gone without power for more than 12hrs yet, but I'd like to put a couple of these on a transfer switch when the retail versions are available. The massive solar input is what I'm drawn to. Is there any other brand of SoGen that would work like this (at this price)?
Can you charge this with the EcoFlow Alternator Charger??
If you watch my review on that product, you can answer your own question.
Nice review.
Hi do the e3600lfp click 2 time when powering on
thank you for your solid review. As I am new to figuring out solar back up (primarily for home refrig/freezer and large chest free serduring power outage. I checked out your store link - and am looking at Renogy solar panels which I assume you would not link unless they work with the Pecron E3600. Looking at prime deals - is this compatible: Renogy 400W Lightweight Portable Solar Suitcase? I appreciate your help.
If you watch my latest videos about volts, amps, and watts, you'll figure it out.
Looks like they have changed the connectors for solar input charging from my older E2000LFP version. Best deal for me is probably just a second E2000.
I love Pecron but the fact that they sneakily rushed out a beta unit to you is gonna make me think twice about going with them again when my 2000lfp eventually dies in 10+ years. At least Montek was honest with you. Can't wait to see your review on their final units btw.
Also, Pecron still having DC burnout issues is also not inspiring. They have a history of that and really need to stop cutting corners on their DC stuff.
can we constantly use the pecron down to 5% of with power. i remember someone said lifepo4 battery would be damaged if we discharge below 10% or let it dead at 0%
The only problem with any lithium batteries in any power station is if you leave it at zero percent for too long. They reserve some power for the computer...so zero isnt really zero....once it is then the computer can no longer control the charging.
Can you plug up a 48 volt ebike battery on the solar inputs ?
hey prof hobo, did you ever try a Vtoman Jump 1800? if not, can you please bring it ro your secret lab to test it and compare it with other solar generators?