CHECK OUT THE ARCH: gohobo.io/arch BougeRV Yuma CIGS: gohobo.io/yuma BougeRV N-Type TopCon Bifacial: gohobo.io/topcon Everything else: Use global code "HOBOTECH" on all accessories
I mounted four of the Arch 200w panels on my metal roof patio cover. I used six magnets on each panel to secure them. They have weathered two tropical storms so far this year. At 7 lbs a piece this 74 yr old had no issue getting them mounted. They straddle ribs in the metal roof which permits air circulation.
I have 4 of their regular 200 watt panels on the roof of my van. They have been working great for over a year. I also have their fridge/freezer. This company makes good products.
After many years, I still love this channel. Incredibly useful info, discounts, and a bottle of Saurian brandy on the workbench. Professor Hobo rocks++!
Great review, in terms of value for money BougeRV seems to be crushing it right now, but without solid reviews from someone I can trust like this channel it's hard to be sure!!
I have this exact panel wired in series with two of the bouge RV 200W glass panels. The current ratings are close enough that it works just fine. I had to do this because the front of my van is curved.
That IP68 rating would be great for pretty much everyone. When these get mounted, they are usually taped or screwed directly to the roofs of rigs. So, they could be sitting in pools of water, where hard panels are usually mounted up off the roof keeping them out of that pool of water. Great design, and awesome video once again!
How do you think they would do in a CO High Rockies winter on a truck camper? I just bought a four season Northern Lite Truck camper and am wanting to make the right choice in panels for a four season full time live in system. Thank you for any advice you may be willing to share!
@Umi-imU-We-Are-One being on a flat surface, like all panels you won't have the full output but on a white roof with some gaps you might do pretty good. Colder temperatures do increase output of panels. I think this it would be my go to panel for sure.
They are great. Probably better suited than the yuma panels on most RV/camper rigs. For sailboats, (note not powerboats), I prefer the yuma due to higher chance of shading from rigging. Also the fully flexible roll up design makes shipping and storage easier when traveling in the Caribbean. I do like that BougeRV is interested in the sailing community. For too long solar equipment for boats has been outrageously expensive with 150 watt panels easily costing $1k. I will be testing these panels on my own sailboat in Panama. P.S. how’s it looking with international shipping? Central America and Caribbean? Oh and the price of $239 for 200 watt is awesome.
Great review! This panel is clearly super awesome, BUT, I am not seeing ANY UL certifications, nothing in the user manual about the IP68 rating (tho they do mention that on their website, I find it odd that there are literally NO certifications in the user manual). Why make such a tough panel, and then gimp it by not publishing any of the certifications in the manual ? I don't get it. Where's the UL certifications?
Kneel on a board like a 4'x4' piece of plywood or a wide plank if you have to do work up there. You should do this anyway. Oops too late! ...is too late when you hear a "crunch". Don't tell me they are made to be walked on. It's the heel landing which puts hundreds of pounds per square inch - on two square inches - deforming the roof.
I use this panel as my sunroof cover on my cybertruck. It's pretty tough. My wife accidentally ran over a section of it and it's still good. Not a fan at how floppy it is. I wish they made a slightly stiffer version that is just as light.
Nice I could indeed make a generator out of that kit. Just need a12v buck, fuse box, case/box and a few plugins. I got a ton of view for my last generator I built.
@ 20.1V 3 of these 200w panels would be great for over watting Sogens with a max input of 60v giving you a 100w buffer getting you close to that magic 500w input, Great Video, thanks for posting.
Another great review Professor. I'm certainly looking at their product line. My little tinkering line is when I'm testing a new purchase of a solar panel, I didn't know, if my battery bank is full the controller doesn't allow any power to flow. So I thought the panel was flawed. My thought is make sure there's a place for the power to flow to get a true reading of panels output. Thanks again
I've used flexible panels before and don't recommend doing a flush mount with them. Mine degraded fairly quickly and I attribute it to them getting too hot. Needs airflow to go underneath them to keep them cool. What happened was that the metal/foil traces between individual cells became separated and I believe this was due to the heat (expansion contraction).
Panels from 5 years ago are designed differently. We do have to acknowledge that quality improves and something that was both recommended and few years ago can now be a totally viable option. Try these out and see if it’s true!
@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk It is true however that every framed glass panel has space behind it; It's the standard we use to compare. A simple extruded wire mesh, like used in concrete forming, or a metallic fence grid would work.
From specifications, 200W over said dimension makes the panel effective efficiency 17.2% ! May be cell active area is smaller than the panel area that makes 23% efficient?
I heard you say you were in Arizona during monsoon season. I recently passed through Flagstaff and there was a monsoon going on, I had no idea that’d happen because I’d never been there. Regardless, much of that area is gorgeous and congrats on living there!
Super-awesome video as usual. Only open question for me is how does efficiency fall off with a moderately-curved installation, such as on an arched trailer roof, or on a golf-cart roof slightly curved to the sides: does the part of the panel that is not normal to the sun kill much of the overall panel power similarly to when there is an obstruction on the panel, or does the off-angle portion of the panel simply produce less power as expected, and not impede the production of the portion of the panel that is normal to the sun? (And with a curved installation, SOME portion of the panel will ALWAYS be non-normal to the sun...)
I would think a slight curve of 20-30% won’t have much negative impact. But in the 45-90° range you might only get half the output. And over 90° we start out with 50% output at max and fast degrading after that. I think the extreme flexibility is more a “durability” sales argument, not a practical installation suggestion. Best way to get the real number is to test it out with your specific installation scenario
What are your thoughts on mounting them onto the leading edge or cap of a travel trailer? I ask because its the closest to my batteries/controller and would keep the wiring to minimum while also covering some areas that are wrinkled due to age of the trailer.
I'd like to build a lightweight 1000 Watt portable array. I wonder how these would stand up to being mounted in an aluminum frame for a long period of time where they would be subjected to long-term sun exposure, wind, etc. At some points, I'd like to be able to carry the array into the garage with the legs folded in. Glass panels are too heavy for me to do this (often).
I have a AC180 with the max PV input being 60 volts and 3 of these in series by the specs would be 60.3v that should be fine right? Since that's OCV and not constant voltage.
Check out Hobotech review of the AC180. He usually tests to see how far over voltage you can go. Some units allow up to 15 volts extra. I would think that 0.3v over will be fine.
If you want flexibility like the YUMA and other flexible panels, but want high area efficiency like the Topcon and other similar panels Well then you could say the ARCH........ bridges that gap
How would you configure solar panels to support the Anker Power House 767. Solar input specs are XT60 Input 11-32V⎓ 10A; 32V-60V⎓ 20A (1000W Max). Doesn't seem like I can get anywher close to 1000W input with solar.
@@HOBOTECH Thanks, HOBO, but my concern is whether the materials will hold up to the constant exposure to sea water. IP68 will prevent acute intrusion, but chronic exposure is a separate issue. I really enjoy your content and careful testing 👍. This panel seems to be an ideal solution to RV’s, vans, trailers, & boats 😎
Woud anyone recommend this for a roofrack on a Land Cruiser? It's a 1x2" slatted type. I guess it would have to be taped down because I only see 3 holes on each side of this panel.
I'm doing something similar.. except mounting on a tonneau cover on a truck. I use the industrial adhesive Velcro and it works great. The challenge is to find a good flexible panel that will actually last. I'm been through about 5 in the past 4 years, but giving this a try next. By the way this one is on an Amazon lightning deal today at 20% off... even cheaper than HOBO, but only a few hours left.
@HOBOTECH haha. No but for real though. I've checked these out because I'd like to put them on my van roof and was wondering if they can handle the weight of me walking on them.
Um, if your solar panel is submerged on a boat, you have a problem that a solar panel isn’t going to solve. 23% efficiency? I guess I’ll stick with my rigid panels for a while longer…
@@HOBOTECH how are you doing hobo yes I saw the video it was informative …. Yes, it definitely flat but I would never fold it to put it away just saying….
Greatings and salutations, i am writing this question in total delight. I'm old.... Solar good. You have brought me up to speed.For that alone i can't thank you enough! Iam looking to buy your love. I need help, beyond what I should. How ever i would gladly buy you a coffee - heck ill buy you steak dinner.. O want to be a part of your knowledge. Iam trying to apply all the codes, l am your nest new best friend. Im an old man i live in a teepee, range tent. Solar good.. I need the boge rv site that you have all the codes up on your site, please help me, like i said, hugs and kisses are optional. Please help me out with planning size watts Im putting them on top of the horse trailer. Thank you on advance Mr. Techan, you ol hobo Thank you for you
@@HOBOTECH Good morning Mr Tech. I'm hoping this note finds you in a good way. Sir, I'm trying to rig my horse trailer to solar, solar good! I'm currently running on jackery 1000 gen I want it on my trailer for all the right reasons.. I have been looking into bouge RV. I'm old enough to not except something for nothing However I am old enough to not so much understand? I want to run a refrigerator, the heater and air conditioner, I have a shower, want to be able to last for about three days, no sun... I truly appreciate you! Please help me I'am not as smart as your cat, or my horse. Thank You for you! Claud, PLEASE. Thanks in advance Claud
CHECK OUT THE ARCH: gohobo.io/arch
BougeRV Yuma CIGS: gohobo.io/yuma
BougeRV N-Type TopCon Bifacial: gohobo.io/topcon
Everything else: Use global code "HOBOTECH" on all accessories
These might be the ones! The longer my boat takes to finish, the better the solar options get, haha!
That’s the same way I look at it with my projects haha
I mounted four of the Arch 200w panels on my metal roof patio cover. I used six magnets on each panel to secure them. They have weathered two tropical storms so far this year. At 7 lbs a piece this 74 yr old had no issue getting them mounted. They straddle ribs in the metal roof which permits air circulation.
I have 4 of their regular 200 watt panels on the roof of my van. They have been working great for over a year. I also have their fridge/freezer. This company makes good products.
After many years, I still love this channel. Incredibly useful info, discounts, and a bottle of Saurian brandy on the workbench. Professor Hobo rocks++!
I have 8 of these installed on my motorhome. They work well and provided a stealthy installation.
200W panels? Do they come in any higher wattage?
Great review, in terms of value for money BougeRV seems to be crushing it right now, but without solid reviews from someone I can trust like this channel it's hard to be sure!!
I have this exact panel wired in series with two of the bouge RV 200W glass panels. The current ratings are close enough that it works just fine. I had to do this because the front of my van is curved.
I was just about to ask if you can use both, the Bifacial as well as the Cigs, and or Arch?
Hobo, I seriously thought you were going to break out into a rap when you were scratching on the solar panel. Very nice review and thanks for sharing.
That IP68 rating would be great for pretty much everyone. When these get mounted, they are usually taped or screwed directly to the roofs of rigs. So, they could be sitting in pools of water, where hard panels are usually mounted up off the roof keeping them out of that pool of water. Great design, and awesome video once again!
Great information and I’m sold. I’m buying that product. Thank you.
I bought three of these panels earlier this year for my RV and am absolutely happy.
I just got the bougerv 200 watt Bifacial and it rocks! 200+ watts consistently! Even at 95°F outside lol
How do you think they would do in a CO High Rockies winter on a truck camper? I just bought a four season Northern Lite Truck camper and am wanting to make the right choice in panels for a four season full time live in system. Thank you for any advice you may be willing to share!
@Umi-imU-We-Are-One being on a flat surface, like all panels you won't have the full output but on a white roof with some gaps you might do pretty good. Colder temperatures do increase output of panels. I think this it would be my go to panel for sure.
They are great. Probably better suited than the yuma panels on most RV/camper rigs.
For sailboats, (note not powerboats), I prefer the yuma due to higher chance of shading from rigging. Also the fully flexible roll up design makes shipping and storage easier when traveling in the Caribbean.
I do like that BougeRV is interested in the sailing community. For too long solar equipment for boats has been outrageously expensive with 150 watt panels easily costing $1k.
I will be testing these panels on my own sailboat in Panama.
P.S. how’s it looking with international shipping? Central America and Caribbean?
Oh and the price of $239 for 200 watt is awesome.
Damn you HOBO , now I have to buy another BougeRV product ! This one looks perfect for my TT. Thanks for the info. Godspeed.
I've used the 100w versions of these for a while. They are incredible great panels for the money.
That’s good news the flex panels have gotten way better.I might have a use for one or two on my rv front cap.
Great review. I am still loving my Yuma Panels mounted on my RTT.
Thanks for sharing your experience and have a great day. 😊
Great review!
This panel is clearly super awesome, BUT, I am not seeing ANY UL certifications, nothing in the user manual about the IP68 rating (tho they do mention that on their website, I find it odd that there are literally NO certifications in the user manual). Why make such a tough panel, and then gimp it by not publishing any of the certifications in the manual ? I don't get it.
Where's the UL certifications?
another great video. when you bent the panel so one end was touching the other, that was 360 ie a full circle.
These looks pretty strong . I wonder if you can walk on them?! If so, my entire RV roof would be these panels!
Kneel on a board like a 4'x4' piece of plywood or a wide plank if you have to do work up there. You should do this anyway. Oops too late! ...is too late when you hear a "crunch". Don't tell me they are made to be walked on. It's the heel landing which puts hundreds of pounds per square inch - on two square inches - deforming the roof.
I use this panel as my sunroof cover on my cybertruck. It's pretty tough. My wife accidentally ran over a section of it and it's still good. Not a fan at how floppy it is. I wish they made a slightly stiffer version that is just as light.
Nice I could indeed make a generator out of that kit. Just need a12v buck, fuse box, case/box and a few plugins. I got a ton of view for my last generator I built.
Good Evening ! Thanks Tom. TAKE CARE..
I have 2 of those and they work grear, if not better than the heavier ones.
Thank you Professor!
Appreciate all you do for us.
Those panels seem to be pretty nice...and not a bad price at all!
@ 20.1V 3 of these 200w panels would be great for over watting Sogens with a max input of 60v giving you a 100w buffer getting you close to that magic 500w input, Great Video, thanks for posting.
Another great review Professor. I'm certainly looking at their product line. My little tinkering line is when I'm testing a new purchase of a solar panel, I didn't know, if my battery bank is full the controller doesn't allow any power to flow. So I thought the panel was flawed. My thought is make sure there's a place for the power to flow to get a true reading of panels output.
Thanks again
Perfect intro! Nice and quick. Another great review!
I've used flexible panels before and don't recommend doing a flush mount with them. Mine degraded fairly quickly and I attribute it to them getting too hot. Needs airflow to go underneath them to keep them cool. What happened was that the metal/foil traces between individual cells became separated and I believe this was due to the heat (expansion contraction).
Panels from 5 years ago are designed differently. We do have to acknowledge that quality improves and something that was both recommended and few years ago can now be a totally viable option.
Try these out and see if it’s true!
These are far more robust and designed for high temps. Old flex panels are junk which is why most only offer a 1 year warranty.
@TheCornucopiaProject-bd5jk It is true however that every framed glass panel has space behind it; It's the standard we use to compare. A simple extruded wire mesh, like used in concrete forming, or a metallic fence grid would work.
@@mikemotorbike4283 I’ll be using many flexible panels on a sailboat. No permanent install. It’ll be a nice weather setup.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing
Another great review and explanation Professor, thank you.
I would love to see a head to head comparison the Yuma cigs vs the arch.
Watch both reviews and decide?
thank you great info
From specifications, 200W over said dimension makes the panel effective efficiency 17.2% ! May be cell active area is smaller than the panel area that makes 23% efficient?
How do you mount to roof of van? Does it get hot without air circulation on the roof? Deciding on regular vs flex panels
I heard you say you were in Arizona during monsoon season. I recently passed through Flagstaff and there was a monsoon going on, I had no idea that’d happen because I’d never been there. Regardless, much of that area is gorgeous and congrats on living there!
What is the point of flexibility if efficiency drops so dramatically when light isn't consistent across the panel?
Hello Professor!!
Super-awesome video as usual. Only open question for me is how does efficiency fall off with a moderately-curved installation, such as on an arched trailer roof, or on a golf-cart roof slightly curved to the sides: does the part of the panel that is not normal to the sun kill much of the overall panel power similarly to when there is an obstruction on the panel, or does the off-angle portion of the panel simply produce less power as expected, and not impede the production of the portion of the panel that is normal to the sun? (And with a curved installation, SOME portion of the panel will ALWAYS be non-normal to the sun...)
I would think a slight curve of 20-30% won’t have much negative impact. But in the 45-90° range you might only get half the output. And over 90° we start out with 50% output at max and fast degrading after that.
I think the extreme flexibility is more a “durability” sales argument, not a practical installation suggestion.
Best way to get the real number is to test it out with your specific installation scenario
Anyone with data about typical out installed tightly to typical gentle curved surface would be appreciated.
Great intro sfx!
Why hasn't the Aureus solar tech been used on a large scale? 100% efficiency, 24hrs a day.. utilizes UV light.
I love my Yuma panels, but this helps me when I need to recommend a durable panel to folks who don't want to spend that much
👍 You da man Hobo Oden da Cat
Wonder if these will delaminate
Thank you, so is this a CIGS panel or no? I can't tell from the website. Thanks
Not CIGS, it's fiberglass.
Oh i like what I see 😊
Was it still making power under water?
What are your thoughts on mounting them onto the leading edge or cap of a travel trailer? I ask because its the closest to my batteries/controller and would keep the wiring to minimum while also covering some areas that are wrinkled due to age of the trailer.
Greeeeeeeeaaaaatingsssssss. Positive Comment!!!
Wondering if white panels would make any difference being overall cooler, ive only ever seen black
Good idea. Try painting your panels white and let us know if it's cooler. You'll have to use special plastic paint so it will adhere to the panel.
@@forwimp make the panels white from factory
I'd like to build a lightweight 1000 Watt portable array. I wonder how these would stand up to being mounted in an aluminum frame for a long period of time where they would be subjected to long-term sun exposure, wind, etc. At some points, I'd like to be able to carry the array into the garage with the legs folded in. Glass panels are too heavy for me to do this (often).
I want to see a comparison of the two ecoflow generators. Should a person spend another $200 for the new generator?
Video will be out Friday
Fiberglass resin fades and yellows after a few years, same issue with this one?
Thanks
Will that panel work with the BLUETTI AC200P .
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I have a AC180 with the max PV input being 60 volts and 3 of these in series by the specs would be 60.3v that should be fine right? Since that's OCV and not constant voltage.
Check out Hobotech review of the AC180. He usually tests to see how far over voltage you can go. Some units allow up to 15 volts extra. I would think that 0.3v over will be fine.
If you want flexibility like the YUMA and other flexible panels, but want high area efficiency like the Topcon and other similar panels
Well then you could say the ARCH........ bridges that gap
Are the Bouge RV components built by a Renogy?
How would you configure solar panels to support the Anker Power House 767. Solar input specs are XT60 Input 11-32V⎓ 10A; 32V-60V⎓ 20A (1000W Max). Doesn't seem like I can get anywher close to 1000W input with solar.
Is it environmentally qualified for marine (salt water) environments?
IP68 means there is no water intrusion, salt or otherwise
@@HOBOTECH Thanks, HOBO, but my concern is whether the materials will hold up to the constant exposure to sea water. IP68 will prevent acute intrusion, but chronic exposure is a separate issue.
I really enjoy your content and careful testing 👍. This panel seems to be an ideal solution to RV’s, vans, trailers, & boats 😎
Grand rising! Anybody from Florida that installs
Max system voltage is 1000v dc. That's impressive.
Woud anyone recommend this for a roofrack on a Land Cruiser? It's a 1x2" slatted type. I guess it would have to be taped down because I only see 3 holes on each side of this panel.
I'm doing something similar.. except mounting on a tonneau cover on a truck. I use the industrial adhesive Velcro and it works great. The challenge is to find a good flexible panel that will actually last. I'm been through about 5 in the past 4 years, but giving this a try next. By the way this one is on an Amazon lightning deal today at 20% off... even cheaper than HOBO, but only a few hours left.
NICE
But is it walkable?
If you could find a leash for it.
@HOBOTECH haha. No but for real though. I've checked these out because I'd like to put them on my van roof and was wondering if they can handle the weight of me walking on them.
Can you walk on them?
They really need to work on their web site, it's terrible.
I've been telling them this for 2 years now...
Um, if your solar panel is submerged on a boat, you have a problem that a solar panel isn’t going to solve.
23% efficiency? I guess I’ll stick with my rigid panels for a while longer…
Can a panel be used as a wind turbine…. To increase efficiency on a sunny windy day…. ?
187 watts
Hey Professor hobo, in the video you said the panel is water resistant and on the Bouge RV website, it says the panel is waterproof. So which is it?
Rewatch the video because he clearly did not say that and even put it in his pool… 🤦
@@jamesyahnhe did say both. The panel has a IP65 and IP68 rating. Which is weird. But fully submerging it suggests IP68 works
I accidentally said water resistant in the intro but they are IP68 waterproof.
@@HOBOTECH OK no worries. We still love you 🌻 Also, my best regards to your cat. I have his twin brother!
Hobo tech nose?
they need to make one that folds in half...
Get two 100w panels and use zip ties.
@@HOBOTECH pecron has it handled
I think folding it will take extra space … I’ll stick with the flat panel, but the fiberglass is lighter. I do like that.
Did you watch the review? The panel is flat...
@@HOBOTECH how are you doing hobo yes I saw the video it was informative …. Yes, it definitely flat but I would never fold it to put it away just saying….
LOL = inside this panel is a fiberglass core, so the core of this panel is fiberglass....."How strong is it?"
Greatings and salutations, i am writing this question in total delight.
I'm old....
Solar good. You have brought me up to speed.For that alone i can't thank you enough! Iam looking to buy your love.
I need help, beyond what I should.
How ever i would gladly buy you a coffee - heck ill buy you steak dinner..
O want to be a part of your knowledge.
Iam trying to apply all the codes, l am your nest new best friend. Im an old man i live in a teepee, range tent. Solar good..
I need the boge rv site that you have all the codes up on your site, please help me, like i said, hugs and kisses are optional.
Please help me out with planning size watts
Im putting them on top of the horse trailer.
Thank you on advance Mr. Techan, you ol hobo
Thank you for you
Visit gohobo.io/fb you can ask your questions there
@@HOBOTECH Good morning Mr
Tech. I'm hoping this note finds you in a good way.
Sir, I'm trying to rig my horse trailer to solar, solar good!
I'm currently running on jackery 1000 gen
I want it on my trailer for all the right reasons..
I have been looking into bouge RV.
I'm old enough to not except something for nothing
However I am old enough to not so much understand?
I want to run a refrigerator, the heater and air conditioner, I have a shower, want to be able to last for about three days, no sun...
I truly appreciate you!
Please help me
I'am not as smart as your cat, or my horse.
Thank You for you!
Claud,
PLEASE. Thanks in advance
Claud
Ar 1.5X this is pure comedy masquerading as ...
What did you get in exchange for this review? Oh never mind, I know the agreement prevents you from disclosing the details of the agreement.
Why do you bother watching reviews? If anyone says anything good, you automatically assume they are being paid.
I bought three of these panels earlier this year for my RV and am absolutely happy.