I Tested 3 Types of Solar Technology - Surprising RESULTS

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  • Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
  • 200W BougeRV CIGS (amazon*) → amzn.to/4fuBLF6
    200W BougeRV TOPCon (amazon) → amzn.to/3WvQLd9
    200W 9BB PERC (Renogy brand, amazon) → amzn.to/3A5WBdD (BougeRV is out of stock)
    Thank you to BougeRV for sending me these panels to test. I have purchase links to their website below (18% discount code: FRUGAL18). The CIGS panel is really amazing but it is (currently) significantly more expensive than the rigid panel wattage equivalent. Let me know your solar related questions and content suggestions below!
    CIGS → www.bougerv.co...
    TOPCon → www.bougerv.co...
    PERC → www.bougerv.co...
    - The 18% discount code: FRUGAL18 is for certain solar panels. The good news is that inputting the code doesn't negate other codes that might give a bigger discount on other products in your cart.
    * As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases.

Комментарии • 58

  • @litnoregrets7551
    @litnoregrets7551 10 дней назад +3

    Just came across this. Thank you. This is great. Love the way you tested. Lots of great data.

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  10 дней назад +2

      Thank you! I tried my best to keep the conditions consistent across all 3 for the tests.

  • @Jasonoid
    @Jasonoid Месяц назад +8

    I enjoyed seeing all three of these panel types tested, sweet video and excellent testing. I was pretty surprised how closely they performed in wattage. It looks like the normal 200w Monocrystalline panel is the best value, as long as you keep the shade off as much as possible. With the larger 400w panel prices being so good right now, these panels aren't super attractive unless you have a specific need for a small array.

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching! Those are great thoughts!

  • @gabandbren
    @gabandbren Месяц назад +4

    Thanks so much for making this, we need more people like you! 😂One thing I wish you talked about more is the power to size ratio, specifically since you mentioned RV applications. The same 200W CIGS panel is ~47% larger than the 200W TOPcon, and that's also not including the additional space that running wires takes (since they can run underneath an elevated rigid panel). That was definitely not something we considered when doing a flexible panel install on our RV roof, but I wish we had. Of course this doesn't matter if space isn't a concern - weight can definitely be a pretty big factor as well. But I still love seeing the data, thanks again! 🙌

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  Месяц назад

      Thanks! That’s a good suggestion. What panels did you put on your RV roof?

    • @SeekingBeautifulDesign
      @SeekingBeautifulDesign Месяц назад +1

      I 2nd this. W/m2 and $/W are perhaps the biggest factors for the majority of installations. Maybe just add a note in the comments with these metrics (of course $/W is dropping generally, tariffs aside).

    • @gabandbren
      @gabandbren Месяц назад +2

      @@solarguy We have the BougeRV Arch panels, but actually would not recommend because we've hot spots/low output in 3 of our 10 panels in only a couple months of use. They have specific instructions on how to flat mount them, and market them as more heat-resistant/durable than other flexible panels but unfortunately that hasn't been the case. I'm pretty convinced now that the only realistic flexible option is CIGS 🙃

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  Месяц назад

      Thanks for letting me know. Sorry to hear about the disappointing results!

  • @jessstone7486
    @jessstone7486 Месяц назад +2

    Interesting! The CIGS is very cool, that flexibility would come in handy in some applications.
    Thanks for keeping us up to date!

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  Месяц назад +2

      They are pretty amazing. Hopefully the price on them will come down soon. I've had them on my RV roof for over a year and I recently measured them making 100% of their wattage value. Thanks for watching!

    • @NorCalNiche
      @NorCalNiche Месяц назад

      They’re garbage long term. Don’t buy them

  • @jamesmason7124
    @jamesmason7124 Месяц назад +8

    A lot of people have been testing those cigs panels, the technology seems cool but they don't last long and for over $500 each i won't be buying them. I do like those topcon panels

    • @ca-dz9vb
      @ca-dz9vb 14 дней назад +1

      HE Says. That the cigs panels are very Durable ok and you claim they don’t last and hpold up very Long. . Which is it ? Just curious did you research on Consumer reports or what was your source ?/

    • @jamesmason7124
      @jamesmason7124 14 дней назад

      ​@@ca-dz9vbthere are a lot of reviews on RUclips and please don't believe me and do more research on those flexible panels, do what you want but for me I'm going for the topcon panels for my bus

    • @SolarizeYourLife
      @SolarizeYourLife 14 дней назад +1

      I wish they would make cigs under glass panels!!! So much more protection...

    • @ZxAMobile
      @ZxAMobile 4 дня назад +2

      Proof? These are the MOST durable panels EVER, I have a lot of proof to the contrary.

  • @travismoore7849
    @travismoore7849 17 дней назад +2

    For the bifacial panel why not use a emergency Mylar blanket as a reflector so that the sun shines on both sides at the same time?

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  17 дней назад +1

      That would definitely help the gain from the backside. I have some I was going to use for another solar project but maybe I can make a video on bi-facial gain with reflectors since I also have a bunch of mirrors too.

  • @murdiesel
    @murdiesel 25 дней назад +1

    Great video. I have 4 BougeRV Cigs 200 watt self adhesive on my truck camper. They pump the power. They are pricey but the weight ratio to power is awesome.

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  24 дня назад

      Thanks for watching! Glad you like them.

    • @robertbryant173
      @robertbryant173 23 дня назад +1

      How long have you had them up? How are they holding up?

    • @murdiesel
      @murdiesel 23 дня назад +1

      @@robertbryant173 As soon as I got my NorthStar 850sc in October 2022. They have been covered when not in use until this past July and will find out in October their condition. They are a power house and used as a solar tax write off as well.
      So far so good

  • @pappusOrganics
    @pappusOrganics 13 часов назад +1

    good stuff good tests

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  13 часов назад

      Thank you for watching!

  • @extendedp1
    @extendedp1 13 дней назад +1

    Great video, thanks! Subbed.
    I was hoping you were going to test an amorphous panel, and see how it does in the shade. Do they still make those? Thanks

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  11 дней назад +1

      Thanks! I'm not sure.

  • @justinharmon8082
    @justinharmon8082 Месяц назад +3

    Now run the test again but on an elevated rack with white/reflective surface behind.

    • @kawaiisenshi2401
      @kawaiisenshi2401 Месяц назад

      Wooooh id enjoy this~

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  Месяц назад +4

      It would be setting up the test to ensure that the bi-facial panel gains more than the other two. Are you hoping to see how much better it would do?

    • @Premier-Media-Group
      @Premier-Media-Group 24 дня назад

      ​@@solarguyand temps beneath the panels

  • @briankeithwood
    @briankeithwood 15 дней назад

    I would LOVE to see a $ / kw breakdown. If the 2nd and 3rd place (fixed frames) were wildly different in price, that would be a tipping factor for me.

  • @solifugus
    @solifugus Месяц назад +1

    CIGs are gallium-based? That is cool. I heard of this only is solar panels meant for operation in space because the gallium will survive wild extreme temperature variations and last for a far long time than other kinds of solar cells. The specialty gallium cells for spacecraft are custom and crazy expensive, though. Gallium isn't cheap. It's also used for state-of-the-art LED lights. As for the partial shade experiments, my guess is that the results were most strongly impacted by the wiring, not the cells themselves.

  • @NoahZimmerman
    @NoahZimmerman 10 дней назад +1

    Do you happen to know what the voltage was for the perc panel while it was in the shade? I’m putting panels on my rv roof and often camp in shady spots, so I would really appreciate if you could let me know. Thanks

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  9 дней назад

      I went back and looked at my footage and the perc in full shade looked like 16v

  • @solarguy
    @solarguy  Месяц назад +3

    Thank you for watching! Please consider subscribing and liking this video (it helps!). Post any questions or suggestions as new comments.

  • @flindersmj
    @flindersmj 18 дней назад +1

    After reading your collected data, I wonder why a 4 hous test isn't exactly twice what the two hour test recorded. Why is that?

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  18 дней назад

      The main difference would be because the angle of the sun since it's moving throughout the time. The data that really matters is comparing the panels when they are at the same angle, temperature, load, solar irradience, etc. If the factors were all the same the whole time, then yes, a 4 hour test should show roughly double a 2 hour test. Thanks for watching!

  • @uncle_creepy2743
    @uncle_creepy2743 Месяц назад

    Costs??

    • @mr.c6674
      @mr.c6674 Месяц назад +2

      Click the links

  • @strayangel3210
    @strayangel3210 Месяц назад +2

    Let's address the elephant in the room, that thing is twice the size. For the space it's not really an accurate measurement.

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  Месяц назад +1

      It's obvious the CIGS is longer and thinner. That's not what I was testing. They are all rated for 200W so that is the consistent part. I was testing the technology side by side in the same circumstances.

    • @strayangel3210
      @strayangel3210 Месяц назад +1

      @@solarguy I do know cigs are some of the bendables. I appreciate your testing. I'm bias against bendable panels, I know this. But..... Fitment is one of the three primary principles of engineering, impossible to overlook.

    • @jbranche8024
      @jbranche8024 23 дня назад

      ​@solarguy Thank You for all your time and effort to try to help us understand the potential performance of these different panels, I know it is a lot of work.

    • @ZxAMobile
      @ZxAMobile 4 дня назад +1

      @@strayangel3210Cigs has nothing to do with traditional bending panels. It’s way more reliable

  • @rockyhighwayroad7365
    @rockyhighwayroad7365 28 дней назад +3

    Who cares about Celsius? Just keep things in Fahrenheit

    • @ConcreteLand
      @ConcreteLand 26 дней назад +6

      The rest of the world understands the metric system. Why you falling behind?

    • @paul1979uk2000
      @paul1979uk2000 26 дней назад +6

      The rest of the world cares, also the US military and scientist in the US also care lol, in other words, almost everyone cares apart from the US population, and even then, many of them care.

    • @TimeSurfer206
      @TimeSurfer206 22 дня назад +1

      I'm an American Electrician, and all I have ever had to say about Imperial measurements is, "Eff that shi*."

    • @ZxAMobile
      @ZxAMobile 4 дня назад +1

      Agreed, Celsius is so annoying. It’s a meaningless measure.

  • @dennisdickinson8337
    @dennisdickinson8337 Месяц назад

    1st
    Amps are more important
    Ohm's law 101 it will show you the actual power going into grid or battery
    &
    When they talk about solar efficiency is just the footprint the size of the panel for the output

    • @solarguy
      @solarguy  Месяц назад +1

      Ohms law has 3 variables. How are amps more important?

    • @dennisdickinson8337
      @dennisdickinson8337 Месяц назад

      @@solarguy ohm's law shows us if you multiply volts buy amps give us watts
      If you test at the meter are the main at any solar installation you'll see you only putting in about 15 percent to the grid
      Same with charging batteries as the battery gets full amps go down what Watts stay the same
      And then you can do that 4th grade math to figure out actual what's going into grid or battery

    • @dennisdickinson8337
      @dennisdickinson8337 Месяц назад

      @@solarguy there are some other fun science fair projects you can do
      Like line voltage minus PV voltage what should be 274 here in the US then divide the result by line voltage multiplied by 100 which will show you the percentage going into grid or battery which will coincide exactly with the first test

    • @TimeSurfer206
      @TimeSurfer206 22 дня назад

      @@solarguy They aren't, unless you want more power loss from heat.
      Dennis is demonstrating how "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."