I NEED YOUR HELP WITH MY FOV SETTINGS - One FOV Setting Is Not Good For All Aircraft - PLEASE HELP!
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2024
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Too all, I have followed all the steps in the DCS Forums since this problem first occurred months ago when DCS Options changed and put the FOV Setting on a slider in the menu. Around that time is when it stopped saving Cockpit Angles, and there is discussion about it was merged or got corrupted when mixed with SnapView Saving, but for me, it works for a short while, until I leave the program or come back the next day and my settings have reverted to default in the cockpit.
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Juice I don’t know if you have solved your issue but here is what I did to make things work for me. Like you I do not use zoom, I am running triples. I have my FOV setup for each airframe as if I were in the cockpit, I have 43” Hisense TVs and a DIY flight chair. My position and distance from the monitors are so it’s as if I’m in the cockpit, so I had FOV issues. I finally solved my FOV issues by creating a custom LUA for my monitor setup, I don’t think it matters if your using 1 or triples monitors I am not sure about VR but I’m assuming FOV is FOV. Now what’s different in my custom LUA I have the added additional lines as follows:
useAsoluteAngleShift=true
useAbsolutFOV=true
FOV=01.6500 in my setup
by adding these 3 line in my custom lua I am now able to set a custom FOV for every airframe.
Pros: I have the exact FOV that makes me feel I’m in the cockpit
Cons: By adding the 3 lines you lose functionality of the FOV slider in DCS and zoom functionality in DCS is disabled. Which I don’t use anyway. FOV changes are done via 2 lua’s your custom monitor lua, and SpanViews.lua
Conclusion: Once you have all airframes setup…PITA😂, I have never had to make any changes(except for the occasional tweak) even after DCS updates. Let me know if this helps.
Fair Winds and Following Seas
This sounds great...does it apply one FOV to all the aircraft or can you individually set each cockpit?
Hit me up if you would like to talk more about it on Discord and thanks for the tip!
juice_awg
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP So your custom monitor lua sets the I guess main FOV and then I tweak in cockpit for each airframe using the SnapViews lua via in game adjustments. The I believe it’s RightCntrl RightShift number pad 8 up 2 down plus and minus for back and forth if I remember correctly. It never changes unless I change it😎
I'll have to walk through it thanks.
I don't know if it's a solution for everybody, but here's what I do:
In any aircraft there is a Zoom axis (not the Headtracker axis, but the pilot view zoom).
I add either the friction lever on the throttle, or the lever in front of the flightstick to that axis. Now tune the axis as slider, set Saturation Y to the degrees of FOV I want in that particular aircraft. Default is 100° so the Saturation percentage equals degrees, but whatever just tune the setting until it fits with the axis in the resting/maximum position.
Now everytime i hop in a cockpit I once actuate the axis and it jumps to the axis setting. I can leave it there or use the lever to zoom in gradually, only zooming out to a fisheye FOV isn't possible as the maximum FOV is your setting.
You could use any available analog axis, if you don't need the Zoom in game. If you need the Zoom, use an axis anyway as it has the best dynamic result.😎
Thanks Shagrat! That's pretty much what the video Patrik linked talks about too. Surely looks like a workaround, but I'd really like to find out what broke the initial function that worked for almost 15 years and is still labeled and advertised in the program to find out how to fix it. All my many sliders are occupied and I will consider this after we exhaust all efforts to resolve the core issue and revert the function or better yet, move the cockpit FOV slider to each individual aircraft options under the special tab and remove it from the main overall menu within game. All the information on that tab in game is for the entire game, so if internal FOV is there, the problem might be that it's trying to apply a specific setting from the tab to every aircraft which is unique.
That’s how I have been doing it since they put the option of zoom on a slider.
All my axis sliders are set to other mission things like Radar Antenna elevation or light controls in the cockpit. We'll get a solution I'm sure, I just hope soon.
Totally unaware of these settings!. I'll be going through them next time in sim. Thanks Juice!!!
Thanks, it was great when it worked.
I also feel your pain. I own all the modules, and got tired of struggling with FOV and Zoom settings. I predominantly use the TM Hornet grip on the VKB WarBRD base, and use the little rocker switch in the center as “zoom in slow” “zoom out slow” and the center depress as “Zoom Normal”. Using this on all modules, except the Hawg and Viper, has been a great help. That said, I really like the idea of each module having an FOV setting under the Special tab.
Nice, think many refer to that as the "Boat Switch" and a good idea. There's an interesting third dimension when tuning everything that has to do with the HUD glass information and HMD size when using zooms.
Hi Juice, we are going through so many changes lately that is sometimes hard to keep track of all. Very good info here. I should have to re-watch the previous video to put myself into context with FOV. Maybe ED fixes this soon and someone explains how to set this up for once. If we had spent all time flying rather than finding out how to solve these thing we would be Air Aces 😂. But this is what it is and still love it.
We found more information about this and passed it on the way to ED. See the pinned comment on this video.
Thank heavens for months now I thought I was going mad as it would appear to save them not work the next boot up. I use both screen and VR so been mainly on VR because of it and have a sore neck
Hey Juice, judging by that red exclamation mark in keybinds you have changed to some new controller?
I had the same issue when I changed TWSC throttle to STECS where DCS didn't show my last saved (TWSC) keybind cause I disconnected the old throttle, so you can right click on the zoom axis fields and clear combo or set back to default, maybe that's whats causing it. Or simply reattach old controller and see if something is still bound to the command. If my assumption is correct that is:)
Thanks for the info!
DCS FOV SAVED SETTINGS PROBLEM [SOLVED] "Here's How!" Thanks @stevenspanglo8705 For Sharing The Fix
ruclips.net/video/JQrmu1IkqZ0/видео.html
I used to use the slider on my TM Warthog to unrealistically zoom, but stopped because it actually hindered Situational Awareness development. After stopping, my ability to know where the enemy, the target, the runway, etc was greatly improved because it forced me to form a better understanding by using my radar, permission planning skills, wingman calls, AWACS communication and more to form the 3-D picture of the battle space. I now use this slider for the radar antenna elevation control.
hey juice On your controls page at the bottom, where it says disable hot plug, click that to turn it off. its on right now, when its off it will say enable hot plug. That could be the other issue. its reconnect every time you start dcs.
Cool, thanks for the heads up.
hey Juice, track IR pro user here, been using your FOV saving tech for couple years no problems here with the default settings. But did you check the general tab where your aircraft list is, make sure dcs didn't bind something in the views on there, seems every other update it puts them back, not all but one or two. like view center etc.
Are you able to message me a screenshot?
juice_awg on discord
I wasn't really aware it was an option. I set up my TrackIR FOV with zoom keys and TrackIR center every time I get in an aircraft.
Thanks! When you set it up to go fly and then leave that aircraft do you have to set it up again when you come back to the airplane the next time? That’s pretty much the case FTNoIR but we used to be able to program each aircraft to the desired settings and then save it with the right numb pad zero and then once you jumped in the jet for the next flight you just hit enter on the number pad to recall your previously saved settings for that aircraft.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I set it every time in every acft. No 'saved' setting (which would be really nice to have).
That’s the point of this video is that it used to have that function and it is still mappable it’s just not working. Thanks for your input on how it’s working for you it helps 👍
Yes, this is a pain, drives me nuts. R/Alt+0 is not working.
It does for me, as well as the NumPad Enter to recall the saved settings, however it only works until you exit DCS. Thanks for the feedback, I'm glad it's not just me.
Hey juice was having the same problem what I found is you had to do all your settings save it then exit DCS and then reload DCS if you do that after you save your settings, then they stay if you don’t and you can set it all up, save it fly and then exit. It will not save them. I don’t know why it’s very irritating, I hope this helps
Ohhhhh, I’ll give it a try. So I can basically sit on the ground set all the settings, change aircraft set the settings, change aircraft set the settings. As long as I don’t takeoff it’ll work or do I have to set one aircraft, then leave without flying come back in and set another aircraft, then leave without flying?
Steven! I think you have the best input to what might help solve the problem...I tested it. Do you have time to chat on Discord sir?
juice_awg
Sure
My user name is in the previous message.
There are mods that try to help the view and give everything more depth and remove that janky feeling that everything is flat and distorted. As for the problem you have, it is a problem everyone has. I personally solved it by getting TrackIR. Your idea would solve it permanently though. DCS resetting things is common though. I don't think I go a day without some setting being back to default.
This helps but it doesn’t solve the problem internally to DCS as the function is prescribed in the settings and the fact that it worked before it was broken.
I feel your pain sir. Someone save us and describe how this darn system actually works now! 👿
I'm sure it was broken with an update to the new slider for FOV. When you take something that was .lua defined for each aircraft and tie it to a common slider that covers everything, it's going to push the input saving to the master file and neglect the custom view lua saved.
Yes, this is annoying for sure. I just now have zoom on a slider, mapped enter key to reset, and if it's not right, I'll just use zoom to move fov. But it's a constant fiddle whilst air side. Think when I reset the fov goes to 80 or 88%. Though even now, I'm sure my enter key wasn't working and the fov was too far zoomed out the last time I got into DCS. Hmmmm
Any way to make it a single analog push to achieve yet?
Yep same here, drives me insane all my modules are the same as you mentioned, my F-16, F-18, P-51, Apache and the Gazelle. It’s kind of off putting, really love DCS but things as basic as this shouldn’t be happening 👎
Don’t fret, you’re not alone, ED is looking into this and investigating what changed that broke is key to finding the fix. DCS has notoriously been a situation of fixing something or introducing new features that affect others, sometimes breaking it. Good examples include the A/A TACAN or the Viper AAR Fly-By-Wire gains, it happens ans understandable. Back mapping and forensics is key to the solution as well as avoiding future issues.
Use the axis tune on the zoom axis. I use -11 for most. It’s the bottom slider but I forget what it’s called.
Again, a workaround, but not a solution to the problem. The feature is there and programmable just not functioning or holding the savings.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP sorry I’m not sure what you mean. It does save between game restarts. You can set exactly how much you like, it’s perfect for me.
I mean, it’s not a preset push button one time to read return to what you saved you have to still dial it in right?
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP yeah it is. Its not a button, but if you return your zoom slider to the middle, it will always be the same. Works great for my warthog because it has a middle detent
This is my antenna elevation slider in all radar jets and my propeller RPM lever in warbirds. Thanks for the tip and it is shared by many. I don’t mind waiting until ED solves the problem.
I didn't know it was s thing. Thsnk you
Thank you for letting us know. Getting an idea of those who didn't know about it helps determine a lack of knowing which skews feedback data where people are reporting it but that might be underrepresented because some people didn't know it existed. This same thing is evident in the GAMMA settings in game. Default to most guys looks too washed out. I think it starts at 2.2 by ED and I run between 1.3 and 1.8 depending on the lighting and map. Lots to do in DCS for sure!
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP Thanks for keeping noobs like me up to date
🫡 you’re probably more talented than you give yourself credit for if you’re flying DCS you’ve already made the good choice of what virtual combat simulation to explore in. Keeps me as an old guy from getting too old 😜
I think that FOV 80 is neutral 1:1, not 100.
Open beta has a bug with the default snapview.
Thanks, default FOV is different for all my aircraft. I jumped in one without it being set up yet, and it was 109° FOV
Never used this, I just reset trackir use the zoom and or move to reset trackir so when I sit normal it’s where I want it. Unlike you I’ll absolutely used that zoom wheel, one my eyes suck and half the time I gotta zoom or lean in to read gauges, two binoculars aren’t uncommon tools for cas or spotting so I use it. Add to that due to pixels, everything looks like a dot , friend or foe. So being able to get positive ID trumps waiting till your merged, and hell sometimes we still shoot at each other in a furball because some can’t tell you nearly colliding.
Yeah right, a pair of binoculars were in every fighter pilots pocket when I launched them out during my career 🤣 I should’ve said video gamers don’t need to worry about it. You better get back to war thunder before your team misses you 😜thanks for the feedback on T IR 5.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP sure thing. Never played war thunder ever. Might as well be ace combat where f16 carry 20 sidewinders 😂🫡
Thor Wunder!
The default FOV was about 70 . It recently changed to over 100. I think it is because so many people have wide screens now. They changed it for the wide screen guys.
ED Developers have acknowledged that it’s not working. So, I’m thinking it’s broken. By chance, are you referring to external FOV or internal? I’m finding default FOV differences in many aircraft. 100.1 is an odd number and a rounded number would most likely be considered if “intentional”during development. My contact is talking to the team about it.
@@AIRWARFAREGROUP I only play on servers with no external view.
All I know is that for many years I have bound a "zoom in slow" key and a snap back to normal key. I left the snap back to normal key at default zoom. Which was about the same as your 70 degree setting.
This all worked fine for me until recently when the default zoom became fish eye.
I also notice that many of my friend use wide screens and they are often talking about zooming out to fit their wide screen. When I watch screen capture it looks fish eye on my screen which is not wide ratio. I assumed that DCS changed default zoom to accommodate the many wide screen users.
When they say "it" is broken. They may mean the custom settings being saved. Any aspect of this system could be bugged. Which are bugs and which are features remains unclear. There is a reason for them to make fish eye default though. I assume your screen is not wide ?
Yeah, the main settings you can still go into the external view FOV before going into those servers, but good for you, I like it when more people turn up the realism in DCS. I have taken some of my guys out on missions off the carrier and didn’t tell them that we were going to turn off external views, and F10 map markers and boy where they lost at first. 😜
i! did you solved the problem?
I have found out that it’s working, but some missions are causing it to rivert to default. ED is focusing on that now.