I ride a 27.5. Was going to order a Martello 2.8 front and Agarro 2.6 in rear. Then I thought why not go 2.6 Agarro on my 40mm rims. This was an excellent video.
Martello front Agarro rear is one of my favorite combos. Except I had weird issue with Agarro getting cuts in the rubber between the knobs. I had to plug it three times and had never had another tire do that on those trails. I'm going to try again with the Agarro because it was such a good design for rear and balance of grip, cornering traction, and rolling resistance
ive run agarro and mazza combo on a bike, then went full martello, and then finally agarro/martello. this go around i was able to source agarro in 2.35 and 2.6 so i'll put that set up on my ryve 115, i can already confidently assume that the agarro rear on this bike will destroy the ground control im running r/n looking forward to testing agarro f+r. should be decent in our kitty litter and loose over hardpack trails in S. AZ. again, going on a DC ryve 115 so no big expectations to pound thru rock gardens, just light trail riding with FLOW in mind. BUT..i did go w/ the 2.6 in front since i push this little bike kinda hard and wanted a wider (2.4 expected) rubber footprint to get over the slabs
Can you give an update? I'd really like to know how it performed on our Arizona loose over hardpack (kitty litter) trails. I'm running Maxxis Rekon 2.4 up front at 22psi, and I'm having problems loosing traction and washing out. I'm done with that tire.
@@AZRob. rekon might be ok on the rear. the martello has very mellow ramping on the lugs so it's not the fastest front tire. it does have huge sidewall lugs tho, but still retains a really round profile. i have washed out on big sister and RMR but i was hauling ass LOL rear option is agarro or (wtb) trail boss depending on how hard you like to lean in flat corners.
Great video! I'm in Colorado front range riding loose over dry, nothing technical. Currently running Dissector/Aggressor combo, but it's probably overkill for my skills so I'm looking for a faster combo without sacrificing grip in the front end. I'm 57 and just not a fan of taking dirt naps if I can avoid it haha. I'm concerned about the front grip. Wondering if the Agarro would provide adequate front end grip or would you suggest a more aggressive tire? Also interested if you've had any experience with the Syerra as I am interested in those also. Thanks for your time!
Recently had installed the Agarro on the back of my '18 Karate Monkey and absolutely love it (!). Still sturdy enough for Northern Nevada/Eastern Sierra rock gardens but, livelier that what i usually run (Martello) on the rear. Still like a Martello on the front though; nice having a burlier (2.8) tire on the front as passive 'suspension'. First ride was a far shreddier blast and the climbs were faster and smoother; felt like i was (metaphorically) dancing on the trail more. New tire mix should work nicely on upcoming bikepacking trip (whenever Winter Finally decides to leave that is...).
Ya its surprising how much grip it offer but yet still rolls really fast. Every time I think about putting a burlier tire on I forget just how grippy and fast it is
I went from barzo's front and rear to agarro's front and rear but I wan't a fan, pretty much all my riding is on either hardpack or loose over hard, and the agarro was very sluggish by comparison, the agarro is about 220g heavier per tyre, and its very noticeable, it added nearly half a kg of rotational weight to my bike, and in my conditions I don't really think there was any noticeable improvement in grip, the agarro feels like it has more grip so you push a bit harder in a corner but then you loose the front, and when you lose it you loose it quickly without much warning. So I replaced them with syerra's front and rear and they're my new favorite tyre, they're only about 100g heavier than the barzo, but they roll nearly as well, almost to the point where I don't know if I would be able to tell any difference in a blind test, they're 60tpi so you can run lower pressures, I went from 20psi in the front on the agarro to 18psi on the syerra, I even think the syerra has more edge grip than the agarro, because there's about an 8mm wide channel between the transition knobs and the edge knobs, where the agarro doesn't have a channel, the knobs are also spaced further apart on the syerra.
I really like in this video how you only pointed the camera at your face for like two minutes, and it was still pretty far away. It was mostly focus on the action.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I really appreciate all of your content. Since you ride both the Agarro and the Mazza, why do you prefer the Agarro for trail riding? Is it just noticeably lighter and faster without much of a difference in traction? I ride my local trails including Lowell-Dracut-Tyngsboro State Forest on a pair of Mazzas which are great. I prefer them over the Minions that they replaced. No more torn side knobs either! I had Rekons before the Minions but they didn't have enough traction for me. Didn't consider the Agarro until now because I figured it was similar to the Rekon. I'd be interested in your opinion of the Rekon vs Agarro if you've ridden both.
After having raced xc for a few years I became used to riding fast XC tires through terrain I ride all the time. The xc tires from vittoria are extremely good and I got so used to having a fast set up for my local trails I just prefer a faster rolling tread. In all honesty the mazza is pretty overkill for LDT but, if that's what makes YOU more confident than that's good. That's what's great about mtb its a personal sport and what's good for me may not work for your current point in your cycling journey...
Also I don't have any experience on the relocation and I don't think you would notice a difference in traction on rocks etc. With the agarro... it may even be better. The mazza would be better for fall though once it gets leafy
Hey there man great contet! Saudações de Brasil. I have a Crossking 2.3 Protection/Barzo 2.25 trail (f/r) but i'm starting to see some small puncures leaking on the CK (while on the Barzo none), so i started to search for a new tire to replace the CK. I have a Top Fuel 8 and until now I was considering the Forekaster V2 or the new Nobby Nic supertrail, both 2.4. Seeing this video made me consider heavily the Agarro in this case, could you please give your opinion on this? The Agarro would be similar to these or better as a front tire? Regarding Vittoria, i do agree with you that they provide a very good quality tire.
I love the agarro as a fast rolling grippy tire. I usually ran my top fuel with a 2.6 front and 2.4 rear agarro. Barzos are great but they are more an XC tire. The agarros are heavier but worth the weight penalty imo
Big fan of the barzo mezcal combo for xc racing but dunno if I'd wanna run it for aggressive trail riding... the agarro is heavier but has tons more grip... not racing anymore I tend to go with better traction over weight and speed
I just tried the XR4's on the new top fuel and didn't hate them. They did feel a little thin for my liking though but I didn't have many issues. I guess I just like the feel of the agarros better... maybe I'm just used to vittoria's casings
My terrain doesn't have many rock slabs, mostly just loose over hardpack. Thinking about removing half the transition knobs to allow the cornering knobs to dig in more
They do pretty well. The extra siping on the knobs does wonders for traction. Over the years seeing the improvement of vittorias tires and my own technique I'm sure, riding wet roots is not a problem. Vittoria vs other brands you need to air down a little as Vittoria tends to have a stiffer casing if that makes sense
Thanks for sharing. Your trail looks super nice ! Would you say that it's faster than a dissector front and rear combo ? I want less rolling resistance.
Love the video mate, very informative. I’ve just ordered a pair of trail Martello in 2.35. Any experience of riding them front and rear? Thanks kindly, paul.
Paul yes I ran them for years... they are a great all around fast tire and very predictable. Since the Mazza though for enduro I tend to just stick with mazza as the traction is pretty superior for enduro...
@@Projectnortheast yeah I think I will get a mazza for the front end for the foreseeable future. I’m uk based and I’m sure you are aware of our conditions 😂
@@Projectnortheast yup, that’s pretty much it. The one thing that concerned me is the Trails casing strength, I read they aren’t particularly tough when it comes to rock gardens etc. we’ll see. 👌🏼
Have you ridden the Syerra yet? Curious on either the setup you have here or Agarro 2.6 F & Syerra 2.4 R. Agarro looks a lot grippier, more durable and longer lasting but the Syerra is a little lighter and maybe faster rolling. Question is if it is worth it or just stick with the 2.6/2.35 Agarro setup. I've never ridden a Vittoria, but when I wear out the DHF/DHR that came on my Evil Follwing MB, I think I may want to go a little lighter and faster so those 2 are up on my list to try.
I would stick to a beefier tire for a following as its a pretty capable bike... so putting too small of a tread on it would most likely lose some of the fun factor. The agarro will roll much faster than the dhf/dhr combo
I ran barzo and mezcal for xc racing and they were good but for trail riding I prefer the extra traction and more robust tire in the agarro. I run them front and rear. I mean over all it's a pound over a barzo mezcal combo if your not racing and counting seconds it doesn't really matter as the agarro still has really good low rolling resistance
Whare this trail location at I’m from Massachusetts and I’m looking for nice trails like this one? Nice videos I’m thinking about getting the same tire maxxis wareout to fast for me
Vittoria tires are great, been on Martello, Agarro and Barzo and each of those have been great in their respective categories. Where are the trials you're on in this vid?
I'm a heavy cyclist (100-105 kg) and plan to do a 6-day 620km marathon in the Polish mountains. I am trying to find the right tyres for that. The terrain will be a mix of typical mountain walking trails, some single tracks for mtb and some paved roads. I need versatile tyres which will support my weight in rough conditions, but will also be reasonably fast-rolling. I was thinking of Agarro front and back, but were hoping to get a 2-ply reinforced version of this tyre for the back. There is no 2-ply version of this tyre. Do you think the normal version will be tough enough? Thank you for any tips and recommendations.
I think if anything you could put an XC insert which would save you from any pinch flats. The weight difference wouldn't be that different than running a 2 ply tire and you would have the added benefit of being less likely to pinch flat while riding lazy which is bound to happen on a long race like that.
I mean it's good for both really. I run front and rear. If your doing strictly XC then the barzo is a good candidate. I run a 2.6 agarro front and a 2.4 rear. You could go with a lighter faster rolling rear tire but then you have the added risk of puncture which for me if I'm not racing I just want a fast rolling grippy reliable trail tire, which the agarro is all those things...
@@Projectnortheast Thank you for the reply. I'm doing more than xc but more what people call downcountry now. So I want a front with some grip & rear that's still like xc, but not fast xc like the Tereno or Conti RaceKings are. I am also in the desert so mud's not an issue for me.
Been running Mazza/Aggaro front/rear for MA north shore and its been great on my trail bike. Only negative for me is the sidewalls on the Aggaro wear out before the knobs. I guess my rear tire just rubs the side of rocks because I'm not the most precise rider?
Yeah that could be... I am hoping they offer a 2 ply version on the agarro in the future which would help with that. Currently it's only available in a single ply unlike all the other enduro tires
Vittoria trail versions I would say are equivalent to exo ➕️. Vittoria enduro casing is comparable to DH casing. Vittoria doesn't offer a lighter version which I would consider the regular exo to be
Mezcal is more of a fast rolling XC tire. While it's good for traction in most conditions I would say it has more to do with intended use. If your racing or riding XC primarily I would go with a Barzo front and mezcal rear. If mostly trail riding I would run agarro front and back. Both set ups I think offer good wet and dry performance... but xc your terrain is less steap and speed is the priority. Trail riding can be steeper and traction is the name of the game
For my trail bike on these tires usually like 22 front 25 rear. I don't use the airliners for trail riding but I use one in the rear for my enduro bike and I don't think I could ride my enduro without the airliner now... has saved me like 1000 times
Well I don’t have a enduro bike just a cross country with a longer travel and my issue is low pressure, I mean! 25 I can’t even think about it, low for me is 38 if I go lower that that my tires feel wobbly, maybe my rims are narrow I think is 23 mm Inner, I want this tires but I wish they had it on 2.10 2.35 is my max .
Hey, quick question please. Is your rim 30mm internal width? I'm interested in the 2.35 width. Is this true size or it is a little bit wider than 2.35? Thanks
My current rims are 29mm internal. My previous rims were 23mm internal with the same tires. Unfortunately I didn't measure the tires. I tend to care more about performance than #s that in the end don't really matter that much
Hi . I drive a savage and force 2.35 Michelin. The agarro attracts me because it resembles the michelin force with bigger nails. But in front of the Wild seems to me bigger and with bigger buttons than the agarro. I therefore hesitate (for the Trail, light enduro on semi-rigid and I weigh 62 kg) to pass on Agarro behind and in front. There would also be the martello to put in front but the weight scares me. What do you recommend ?
@JMRS63 Tioga Edge22 2.5 on front. Rolls as fast or a little faster than Agarro and the same or a little more cornering grip than Martello. Brakes as well or a little better than Martello too. Weight is between 950-1000 grams.
@@frankschock9981 Since my message, I bought a martello for the front and agarro for the back. I was in Michelin wild am up front and Force am at the back. I returned very quickly to the Michelin. I first tried the martello in front and found that it rolls faster than the Wild but it grips much less on the angle and does not give confidence. I tried the rear agarro and it grips more than the force am but it feels heavier and less rolling.
Hi there! Are these similar to Maxxis Dissectors? I am running a Kona Honzo DL and like my minion/dissector setup, apart from the fact that I’ve never seen a tyre degrade so fast as the dissector… I’ve bought a Martello for my other full suspension, and am slowly looking at springing from Maxxis to Vittoria. Im on Germany, where it’s quite wet and loamy for 7 months for information, quite loose, but quite dry in summer (3 months) very rooty forestry area, hardly any rock gardens.
I honestly can't tell you as I've never run dissectors. They are definitely some of the best fast rolling trail tires I've found though. They wear fairly well as well
@@Projectnortheastthank you for the fast response. So I am thinking these are the puppies I am after. Exactly why you said about wear is the biggest minus point for Maxxis. That and they don’t operate in colder temperatures. I am riding similar to what you show in your video minus the rocks, and maybe more rooty. Thank you again for the quick response!
@@tplambert I ran vittoria barzo's before I switched to the agarro and I got 2 years out of the rear before I replaced it, and I usually ride my bike a few times per week, except for in the winter, they seem to last very well, I wonder if it has something to do with the graphene.
@@benjy288 thanks! Well I ordered Barzo a few days ago for my XC. A few less knobs than my mountain kings, but the biggest knob is the one sitting on the bike 😎. I will see how the Barzo holds up!
Loved the video! Can you comment on using the 2.35 in the rear and the 2.6 in the front? I am running the 2.6's both front and rear in my 2021 TF and love them so far, the bike feels like a fast, plush, but not the most nimble mountain goat. I wonder how the 2.35's would change that. I ride in Alaska but similar ground as in this video.
I've never really thought I needed anything much bigger than a 2.4 honestly for any condition except on my fatbike. I'm just not a plus tire fan at all, it always seemed gimmicky without actually offering much benefit. But, I did try the 2.6 on the front and I'm kindof 50/50 on whether I'd run the 2.6 again or just run the 2.35 front and rear. I guess nowadays it'll be whatever is in stock lol. I would maybe try the 2.35 in the rear first as that's going to be the first one to wear out...
I'd prolly run a barzo up front paired with a syerra as they are both XC oriented. The agarro is more trail/light enduro. It's about 200g heavier as well
@@downtoridemtb No, I can't find an Agarro anywhere. I did just put Syerra on as a rear yesterday. It is paired to a Bontrager XR4 up front. Only have one ride, but it feels slightly more grippy than a Recon/Recon combo. Maybe not quite as fast rolling but almost.
It would depend on what type of riding. I usually don't pick a tire for the bike, but the tire for the terrain. If it's mostly smooth and fast with good dirt and mellow grades I'd go syerra. If you have technical terrain rocks, roots, and things get steep sometimes I'd go for the agarro.
Fairly easy mounting but I always use a compressor so most tires are easy. The only stubborn tires I've had in the past I leaned a trick to let the tire rest inside out for a while before putting on as it spreads the beads out for easy mounting but never have to do that with the agarros. As far as sealant I'm not picky but use either stans, vittoria, or bontrager sealant usually just whatever I have on hand at the time
While these aren't the lightest tires for strictly trail riding they roll very fast and the grip is pretty insane. Also have run them for some light enduro and never had to worry about the durability.
@@Projectnortheast Thanks for the response, The last set up I had Rekon 2.6 rear and Dissector 2.6 front...was pretty fast but I didn't care for the Dissector turning, kinda had the gap between outside nubs and the inside ones...not confident turning. Out of the 3 combos here, Rekon/Dissector, Agarro/Agarro, and Syerra/Agarro, which would be my fastest rolling combo. All 29 x 2.6, except the Syerra, only comes in 2.4....My rims are 35mm id. Thanks again!!
@@mcduffrobert the fastest rolling is going to be the agarro syerra but I find the agarro front and rear my perfect combo as I get very aggressive with my trailbike as in full on black diamond enduro runs and I want a rear tire that is going to hold up to the abuse. I feel the agarro is the perfect in between tire . Not XC but still fast rolling, not enduro but still confidence inspiring and reliable
@@mcduffrobert how did you like the Syerra and Aggaro combination? I’m considering this now, and like you, as an alternative to the Rekon and Dissector combo.
Thanks for sharing and great video shredding your local forest there. I live in GA and we have much climbing and descending..nothing is flat around here...not even the parking lots. I want to get away from the current Dinosaurs of mountain bike tire technology and move on to something newer and better. I'd like the best combination of speed, weight, and grip...of course. I've got a sneaking suspicion that Vittoria might have some fantastic technology that the world needs to know more about. Currently running a 2.25 Rekon Maxx Speed 3C/EXO rear, and a front 2.4 Dissector 3C/EXO. Would that somewhat compare to changing out to Agarro's front and rear... or is that even comparable to my current setup? My 2019 Jet Niner Trail bike has 130/120 travel and tire wise is currently is set up for light fast rolling speed. Total Bike weighs 26.8 lbs currently with Reynolds Black label limited edition 309/289 wheels. Happy to purchase stuff from Backcountry to support you. Willing to consider a few different trail combinations. Thanks again for sharing.
Jamie, so the vittoria tires, the agarro specifically I think, is kindof in between those 2 maxxis tires. Smaller lugs than the dissector but I'm betting the agarro is faster rolling. The Rekon is really an XC tire so hard to compare as it's probably atleast 150g lighter. So, if you were to switch to an agarro say front and rear I think it would be a slightly heavier set up for you. But, probably more durable than a rekon and possibly slightly faster rolling. For me it's always a balance of finding that tire that just works for me in every condition for trail riding and the agarro just is that tire, it's taken everything I've thrown at it. Hope that helps...
@@Projectnortheast Yes, your reply helps. Splitting that difference and ending up with something faster rolling or similar along with possibly a more durable side wall than the recon appeals to me.. especially if there is more grip for climbing and equally as much for descending. Does anyone have them in stock that you know of? Backcountry only has the E-Agarro. Would you suggest sticking with same spec'd front and rear for this setup? 2.3 trail versions front and rear... or 2.6 front? MY 29 front wheel is 30mm inner, and rear is 28mm. I was thinking the 2.35's would probably be right front and rear if they run true to size.
@@JamieMMac Ya if your looking for that then they may be perfect for you. I currently run a 2.6 front which measures more like a 2.5 and I use a 2.35 rear. Not sure who has them in stock as of right now. I appreciate the support through backcountry but don't feel obligated I'm glad to help. The best way to support the channel if your looking to is through Patreon...
How are the Agarro's on wet roots? Seems like wet everything is the 2023 riding season theme in Maine (when you can ride). I am between Mazza Front/Aggaro Rear or Mazza Front/Martello Rear on my Rascal.
For a rascal I'd prolly lean toward a mazza martello combo. But I run a martello front and aggaro rear on my fuel ex and it's pretty awesome. It just depends on how steep of terrain and how much braking traction you need...
Not really sure what grade 3 and 4 trails means but that would be a fast trail set up for xc and trail riding but definitely not suited for enduro style riding
I just got this tire last week on the front, 27.5 x 2.6. I've never had an mtb tire like this. And I've had about 20. It's rounded like an xc tire but has relatively thick knobs to handle chunk. And very fast, significantly faster than a Rekon. Weight is not a factor with this tire, even on a level surface it glides fast. But it doesn't brake great and honestly, it's pretty sketchy on the front. The side knobs are far below the center. So you are on roller skates with this. I think the 2.35 version would make a great back tire. Front is fast but this tire has very imbalanced traits. You want that elusive KOM, this tire can deliver it but be careful, you have been warned.
I ride a 27.5. Was going to order a Martello 2.8 front and Agarro 2.6 in rear. Then I thought why not go 2.6 Agarro on my 40mm rims. This was an excellent video.
Martello front Agarro rear is one of my favorite combos. Except I had weird issue with Agarro getting cuts in the rubber between the knobs. I had to plug it three times and had never had another tire do that on those trails. I'm going to try again with the Agarro because it was such a good design for rear and balance of grip, cornering traction, and rolling resistance
ive run agarro and mazza combo on a bike, then went full martello, and then finally agarro/martello.
this go around i was able to source agarro in 2.35 and 2.6 so i'll put that set up on my ryve 115, i can already confidently assume that the agarro rear on this bike will destroy the ground control im running r/n
looking forward to testing agarro f+r. should be decent in our kitty litter and loose over hardpack trails in S. AZ.
again, going on a DC ryve 115 so no big expectations to pound thru rock gardens, just light trail riding with FLOW in mind. BUT..i did go w/ the 2.6 in front since i push this little bike kinda hard and wanted a wider (2.4 expected) rubber footprint to get over the slabs
Can you give an update? I'd really like to know how it performed on our Arizona loose over hardpack (kitty litter) trails.
I'm running Maxxis Rekon 2.4 up front at 22psi, and I'm having problems loosing traction and washing out. I'm done with that tire.
@@AZRob. rekon might be ok on the rear. the martello has very mellow ramping on the lugs so it's not the fastest front tire. it does have huge sidewall lugs tho, but still retains a really round profile. i have washed out on big sister and RMR but i was hauling ass LOL
rear option is agarro or (wtb) trail boss depending on how hard you like to lean in flat corners.
Facts! Mazza in the front agarro in the rear. 🤙🏽
Going to give this combo a try soon.
Sold. Coming from XR4 . Good grip. Wanted something with more rolling speed.
Great video! I'm in Colorado front range riding loose over dry, nothing technical. Currently running Dissector/Aggressor combo, but it's probably overkill for my skills so I'm looking for a faster combo without sacrificing grip in the front end. I'm 57 and just not a fan of taking dirt naps if I can avoid it haha. I'm concerned about the front grip. Wondering if the Agarro would provide adequate front end grip or would you suggest a more aggressive tire? Also interested if you've had any experience with the Syerra as I am interested in those also. Thanks for your time!
Cool vid. I’m in for two agarros! Thx!
Recently had installed the Agarro on the back of my '18 Karate Monkey and absolutely love it (!). Still sturdy enough for Northern Nevada/Eastern Sierra rock gardens but, livelier that what i usually run (Martello) on the rear. Still like a Martello on the front though; nice having a burlier (2.8) tire on the front as passive 'suspension'. First ride was a far shreddier blast and the climbs were faster and smoother; felt like i was (metaphorically) dancing on the trail more. New tire mix should work nicely on upcoming bikepacking trip (whenever Winter Finally decides to leave that is...).
Ya its surprising how much grip it offer but yet still rolls really fast. Every time I think about putting a burlier tire on I forget just how grippy and fast it is
I’m running the Arrago front/Morsa rear on my Following V3 and it’s been great 🤙
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Sick Video!! Nice One!!
I went from barzo's front and rear to agarro's front and rear but I wan't a fan, pretty much all my riding is on either hardpack or loose over hard, and the agarro was very sluggish by comparison, the agarro is about 220g heavier per tyre, and its very noticeable, it added nearly half a kg of rotational weight to my bike, and in my conditions I don't really think there was any noticeable improvement in grip, the agarro feels like it has more grip so you push a bit harder in a corner but then you loose the front, and when you lose it you loose it quickly without much warning.
So I replaced them with syerra's front and rear and they're my new favorite tyre, they're only about 100g heavier than the barzo, but they roll nearly as well, almost to the point where I don't know if I would be able to tell any difference in a blind test, they're 60tpi so you can run lower pressures, I went from 20psi in the front on the agarro to 18psi on the syerra, I even think the syerra has more edge grip than the agarro, because there's about an 8mm wide channel between the transition knobs and the edge knobs, where the agarro doesn't have a channel, the knobs are also spaced further apart on the syerra.
Since making the video, do you still run the Agarro front and rear, or have you modified your setup? Thanks, great video.
I really like in this video how you only pointed the camera at your face for like two minutes, and it was still pretty far away. It was mostly focus on the action.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. I really appreciate all of your content.
Since you ride both the Agarro and the Mazza, why do you prefer the Agarro for trail riding? Is it just noticeably lighter and faster without much of a difference in traction?
I ride my local trails including Lowell-Dracut-Tyngsboro State Forest on a pair of Mazzas which are great. I prefer them over the Minions that they replaced. No more torn side knobs either!
I had Rekons before the Minions but they didn't have enough traction for me. Didn't consider the Agarro until now because I figured it was similar to the Rekon. I'd be interested in your opinion of the Rekon vs Agarro if you've ridden both.
After having raced xc for a few years I became used to riding fast XC tires through terrain I ride all the time. The xc tires from vittoria are extremely good and I got so used to having a fast set up for my local trails I just prefer a faster rolling tread. In all honesty the mazza is pretty overkill for LDT but, if that's what makes YOU more confident than that's good. That's what's great about mtb its a personal sport and what's good for me may not work for your current point in your cycling journey...
Also I don't have any experience on the relocation and I don't think you would notice a difference in traction on rocks etc. With the agarro... it may even be better. The mazza would be better for fall though once it gets leafy
Hey there man great contet! Saudações de Brasil. I have a Crossking 2.3 Protection/Barzo 2.25 trail (f/r) but i'm starting to see some small puncures leaking on the CK (while on the Barzo none), so i started to search for a new tire to replace the CK. I have a Top Fuel 8 and until now I was considering the Forekaster V2 or the new Nobby Nic supertrail, both 2.4. Seeing this video made me consider heavily the Agarro in this case, could you please give your opinion on this? The Agarro would be similar to these or better as a front tire? Regarding Vittoria, i do agree with you that they provide a very good quality tire.
I love the agarro as a fast rolling grippy tire. I usually ran my top fuel with a 2.6 front and 2.4 rear agarro. Barzos are great but they are more an XC tire. The agarros are heavier but worth the weight penalty imo
i'm running Barzo front and rear rifht now on my Top Fuel. i may consider the agarro next or the new down country tire the Vittoria Syerra
Big fan of the barzo mezcal combo for xc racing but dunno if I'd wanna run it for aggressive trail riding... the agarro is heavier but has tons more grip... not racing anymore I tend to go with better traction over weight and speed
I always come back to XR4’s. Decent grip and light. I hear good things about the Agarro though.
I just tried the XR4's on the new top fuel and didn't hate them. They did feel a little thin for my liking though but I didn't have many issues. I guess I just like the feel of the agarros better... maybe I'm just used to vittoria's casings
@@Projectnortheast XR4 is likely thinner but I’ve never cut one.
I've got a trek rail with xr5s
Everyone who owns a rail says they're absolute garbage for whatever reason
My terrain doesn't have many rock slabs, mostly just loose over hardpack. Thinking about removing half the transition knobs to allow the cornering knobs to dig in more
How do they do on wet root ups? Northeast right now is frost/thaw and flurries. Roots are always wet.
They do pretty well. The extra siping on the knobs does wonders for traction. Over the years seeing the improvement of vittorias tires and my own technique I'm sure, riding wet roots is not a problem. Vittoria vs other brands you need to air down a little as Vittoria tends to have a stiffer casing if that makes sense
Thanks for sharing. Your trail looks super nice ! Would you say that it's faster than a dissector front and rear combo ? I want less rolling resistance.
Hard to say as I've never had a dissector set up... but I can tell you they are fast, grippy, and pretty dang durable
Great job! My terrain in northern AL is similar to this trail. If not the Agarro, what is your next choice for lightest XC tire combo? Thanks.
When I raced XC my go to combo was a mezcal rear barzo front... super awesome xc tire set up
Love the video mate, very informative. I’ve just ordered a pair of trail Martello in 2.35. Any experience of riding them front and rear? Thanks kindly, paul.
Paul yes I ran them for years... they are a great all around fast tire and very predictable. Since the Mazza though for enduro I tend to just stick with mazza as the traction is pretty superior for enduro...
@@Projectnortheast yeah I think I will get a mazza for the front end for the foreseeable future. I’m uk based and I’m sure you are aware of our conditions 😂
@@paulevans1278 ya conditions are pretty similar here in the north east usa..USA... wet mud and all roots and rocks
@@Projectnortheast yup, that’s pretty much it. The one thing that concerned me is the Trails casing strength, I read they aren’t particularly tough when it comes to rock gardens etc. we’ll see. 👌🏼
Have you ridden the Syerra yet? Curious on either the setup you have here or Agarro 2.6 F & Syerra 2.4 R. Agarro looks a lot grippier, more durable and longer lasting but the Syerra is a little lighter and maybe faster rolling. Question is if it is worth it or just stick with the 2.6/2.35 Agarro setup. I've never ridden a Vittoria, but when I wear out the DHF/DHR that came on my Evil Follwing MB, I think I may want to go a little lighter and faster so those 2 are up on my list to try.
I would stick to a beefier tire for a following as its a pretty capable bike... so putting too small of a tread on it would most likely lose some of the fun factor. The agarro will roll much faster than the dhf/dhr combo
Better than Barzo? So maybe that in the front and Barzo or Mezcal in the rear? I am looking at a 2021 SB 115 T-2. Dirt Wire lives in that area
I ran barzo and mezcal for xc racing and they were good but for trail riding I prefer the extra traction and more robust tire in the agarro. I run them front and rear. I mean over all it's a pound over a barzo mezcal combo if your not racing and counting seconds it doesn't really matter as the agarro still has really good low rolling resistance
Whare this trail location at I’m from Massachusetts and I’m looking for nice trails like this one? Nice videos I’m thinking about getting the same tire maxxis wareout to fast for me
I say it right in the beginning of the video... lowell dracut forest.
Vittoria tires are great, been on Martello, Agarro and Barzo and each of those have been great in their respective categories.
Where are the trials you're on in this vid?
Lowell Dracut state forest
@@Projectnortheast thank you!
I'm a heavy cyclist (100-105 kg) and plan to do a 6-day 620km marathon in the Polish mountains. I am trying to find the right tyres for that. The terrain will be a mix of typical mountain walking trails, some single tracks for mtb and some paved roads. I need versatile tyres which will support my weight in rough conditions, but will also be reasonably fast-rolling. I was thinking of Agarro front and back, but were hoping to get a 2-ply reinforced version of this tyre for the back. There is no 2-ply version of this tyre. Do you think the normal version will be tough enough? Thank you for any tips and recommendations.
I think if anything you could put an XC insert which would save you from any pinch flats. The weight difference wouldn't be that different than running a 2 ply tire and you would have the added benefit of being less likely to pinch flat while riding lazy which is bound to happen on a long race like that.
@@Projectnortheast that's an interesting suggestion, thank you
thank you for the review. Would you say this is better as a front or rear tire for trail lite-aggressive xc riding?
I mean it's good for both really. I run front and rear. If your doing strictly XC then the barzo is a good candidate. I run a 2.6 agarro front and a 2.4 rear. You could go with a lighter faster rolling rear tire but then you have the added risk of puncture which for me if I'm not racing I just want a fast rolling grippy reliable trail tire, which the agarro is all those things...
@@Projectnortheast Thank you for the reply. I'm doing more than xc but more what people call downcountry now. So I want a front with some grip & rear that's still like xc, but not fast xc like the Tereno or Conti RaceKings are. I am also in the desert so mud's not an issue for me.
@@mellissanash7517 I would run an agarro front and rear or if you wanted a more aggressive front tore maybe add a martello in front...
@@Projectnortheast Martello would be to aggressive for what I want to ride, but thank you.
agaro+mezcal for fast xc/dc ?
Been running Mazza/Aggaro front/rear for MA north shore and its been great on my trail bike. Only negative for me is the sidewalls on the Aggaro wear out before the knobs. I guess my rear tire just rubs the side of rocks because I'm not the most precise rider?
Yeah that could be... I am hoping they offer a 2 ply version on the agarro in the future which would help with that. Currently it's only available in a single ply unlike all the other enduro tires
Nice video
looks like a Maxis Recon , do they have the carcass protection similar to EXO+? if so what's it called?
Vittoria trail versions I would say are equivalent to exo ➕️. Vittoria enduro casing is comparable to DH casing. Vittoria doesn't offer a lighter version which I would consider the regular exo to be
Aggarro front and mezcal rear. Is it a good combination for wet and dry?
Mezcal is more of a fast rolling XC tire. While it's good for traction in most conditions I would say it has more to do with intended use. If your racing or riding XC primarily I would go with a Barzo front and mezcal rear. If mostly trail riding I would run agarro front and back. Both set ups I think offer good wet and dry performance... but xc your terrain is less steap and speed is the priority. Trail riding can be steeper and traction is the name of the game
What is your PSI and do you recommend using the Vittoria air liners? Please and thank you.
For my trail bike on these tires usually like 22 front 25 rear. I don't use the airliners for trail riding but I use one in the rear for my enduro bike and I don't think I could ride my enduro without the airliner now... has saved me like 1000 times
Well I don’t have a enduro bike just a cross country with a longer travel and my issue is low pressure, I mean! 25 I can’t even think about it, low for me is 38 if I go lower that that my tires feel wobbly, maybe my rims are narrow I think is 23 mm Inner, I want this tires but I wish they had it on 2.10 2.35 is my max .
@@ProjectnortheastWhat’s your weight?
Great Review!
@@johnleehan I'm 160 lbs
I only ride vittoria now. Won’t run anything else unless something somehow is gripper.
Hey, quick question please. Is your rim 30mm internal width? I'm interested in the 2.35 width. Is this true size or it is a little bit wider than 2.35? Thanks
My current rims are 29mm internal. My previous rims were 23mm internal with the same tires. Unfortunately I didn't measure the tires. I tend to care more about performance than #s that in the end don't really matter that much
Hi . I drive a savage and force 2.35 Michelin. The agarro attracts me because it resembles the michelin force with bigger nails. But in front of the Wild seems to me bigger and with bigger buttons than the agarro. I therefore hesitate (for the Trail, light enduro on semi-rigid and I weigh 62 kg) to pass on Agarro behind and in front. There would also be the martello to put in front but the weight scares me. What do you recommend ?
Someone to help me ? Please
@JMRS63 Tioga Edge22 2.5 on front. Rolls as fast or a little faster than Agarro and the same or a little more cornering grip than Martello. Brakes as well or a little better than Martello too. Weight is between 950-1000 grams.
@@frankschock9981 Since my message, I bought a martello for the front and agarro for the back. I was in Michelin wild am up front and Force am at the back. I returned very quickly to the Michelin. I first tried the martello in front and found that it rolls faster than the Wild but it grips much less on the angle and does not give confidence. I tried the rear agarro and it grips more than the force am but it feels heavier and less rolling.
Hi there! Are these similar to Maxxis Dissectors? I am running a Kona Honzo DL and like my minion/dissector setup, apart from the fact that I’ve never seen a tyre degrade so fast as the dissector… I’ve bought a Martello for my other full suspension, and am slowly looking at springing from Maxxis to Vittoria. Im on Germany, where it’s quite wet and loamy for 7 months for information, quite loose, but quite dry in summer (3 months) very rooty forestry area, hardly any rock gardens.
I honestly can't tell you as I've never run dissectors. They are definitely some of the best fast rolling trail tires I've found though. They wear fairly well as well
@@Projectnortheastthank you for the fast response. So I am thinking these are the puppies I am after. Exactly why you said about wear is the biggest minus point for Maxxis. That and they don’t operate in colder temperatures. I am riding similar to what you show in your video minus the rocks, and maybe more rooty.
Thank you again for the quick response!
@@tplambert I ran vittoria barzo's before I switched to the agarro and I got 2 years out of the rear before I replaced it, and I usually ride my bike a few times per week, except for in the winter, they seem to last very well, I wonder if it has something to do with the graphene.
@@benjy288 thanks! Well I ordered Barzo a few days ago for my XC. A few less knobs than my mountain kings, but the biggest knob is the one sitting on the bike 😎. I will see how the Barzo holds up!
Loved the video! Can you comment on using the 2.35 in the rear and the 2.6 in the front? I am running the 2.6's both front and rear in my 2021 TF and love them so far, the bike feels like a fast, plush, but not the most nimble mountain goat. I wonder how the 2.35's would change that. I ride in Alaska but similar ground as in this video.
I've never really thought I needed anything much bigger than a 2.4 honestly for any condition except on my fatbike. I'm just not a plus tire fan at all, it always seemed gimmicky without actually offering much benefit. But, I did try the 2.6 on the front and I'm kindof 50/50 on whether I'd run the 2.6 again or just run the 2.35 front and rear. I guess nowadays it'll be whatever is in stock lol. I would maybe try the 2.35 in the rear first as that's going to be the first one to wear out...
Would you run the Agarro up front with a Syerra as a rear tire?
I'd prolly run a barzo up front paired with a syerra as they are both XC oriented. The agarro is more trail/light enduro. It's about 200g heavier as well
Did you ever try this combo? Been considering it myself.
@@downtoridemtb No, I can't find an Agarro anywhere. I did just put Syerra on as a rear yesterday. It is paired to a Bontrager XR4 up front. Only have one ride, but it feels slightly more grippy than a Recon/Recon combo. Maybe not quite as fast rolling but almost.
130/120 bike. You picking these or the Syerra Pivot Trail 429 for reference.
It would depend on what type of riding. I usually don't pick a tire for the bike, but the tire for the terrain. If it's mostly smooth and fast with good dirt and mellow grades I'd go syerra. If you have technical terrain rocks, roots, and things get steep sometimes I'd go for the agarro.
@@Projectnortheast Pisgah Area Nc
@@brucehumphries6889 pisgah I would opt for the agarros for sure... more durable and you want the traction
Thanks for the video. I would like to know if it was easy to mount and what sealant you applied. Thanks
Fairly easy mounting but I always use a compressor so most tires are easy. The only stubborn tires I've had in the past I leaned a trick to let the tire rest inside out for a while before putting on as it spreads the beads out for easy mounting but never have to do that with the agarros. As far as sealant I'm not picky but use either stans, vittoria, or bontrager sealant usually just whatever I have on hand at the time
@@Projectnortheast Thanks a lot
@@tayorsnr81 anytime!
How is the rolling resistance on these tires, for pedaling to the trail?
While these aren't the lightest tires for strictly trail riding they roll very fast and the grip is pretty insane. Also have run them for some light enduro and never had to worry about the durability.
This what i'm going with.....Agarro 2.6 front, and the new Syerra 2.4 in the rear....29'ers. Polygon T8
Agarro front and rear is also pretty killer
@@Projectnortheast Thanks for the response, The last set up I had Rekon 2.6 rear and Dissector 2.6 front...was pretty fast but I didn't care for the Dissector turning, kinda had the gap between outside nubs and the inside ones...not confident turning. Out of the 3 combos here, Rekon/Dissector, Agarro/Agarro, and Syerra/Agarro, which would be my fastest rolling combo. All 29 x 2.6, except the Syerra, only comes in 2.4....My rims are 35mm id.
Thanks again!!
@@mcduffrobert the fastest rolling is going to be the agarro syerra but I find the agarro front and rear my perfect combo as I get very aggressive with my trailbike as in full on black diamond enduro runs and I want a rear tire that is going to hold up to the abuse. I feel the agarro is the perfect in between tire . Not XC but still fast rolling, not enduro but still confidence inspiring and reliable
@@mcduffrobert how did you like the Syerra and Aggaro combination? I’m considering this now, and like you, as an alternative to the Rekon and Dissector combo.
I was waiting for this video :) Did you happen to weight them? Are they accurate with Vittoria website?
Pretty accurate yes
The 27.5x2.6 is listed at 940g but it's only 915g. As mentioned in a previous comment don't worry about this tire's weight. It's very fast.
Recently got a 29x2.6 Agarro at 960 grams
Thanks for sharing and great video shredding your local forest there. I live in GA and we have much climbing and descending..nothing is flat around here...not even the parking lots. I want to get away from the current Dinosaurs of mountain bike tire technology and move on to something newer and better. I'd like the best combination of speed, weight, and grip...of course. I've got a sneaking suspicion that Vittoria might have some fantastic technology that the world needs to know more about. Currently running a 2.25 Rekon Maxx Speed 3C/EXO rear, and a front 2.4 Dissector 3C/EXO. Would that somewhat compare to changing out to Agarro's front and rear... or is that even comparable to my current setup? My 2019 Jet Niner Trail bike has 130/120 travel and tire wise is currently is set up for light fast rolling speed. Total Bike weighs 26.8 lbs currently with Reynolds Black label limited edition 309/289 wheels. Happy to purchase stuff from Backcountry to support you. Willing to consider a few different trail combinations. Thanks again for sharing.
Jamie, so the vittoria tires, the agarro specifically I think, is kindof in between those 2 maxxis tires. Smaller lugs than the dissector but I'm betting the agarro is faster rolling. The Rekon is really an XC tire so hard to compare as it's probably atleast 150g lighter. So, if you were to switch to an agarro say front and rear I think it would be a slightly heavier set up for you. But, probably more durable than a rekon and possibly slightly faster rolling. For me it's always a balance of finding that tire that just works for me in every condition for trail riding and the agarro just is that tire, it's taken everything I've thrown at it. Hope that helps...
@@Projectnortheast Yes, your reply helps. Splitting that difference and ending up with something faster rolling or similar along with possibly a more durable side wall than the recon appeals to me.. especially if there is more grip for climbing and equally as much for descending. Does anyone have them in stock that you know of? Backcountry only has the E-Agarro. Would you suggest sticking with same spec'd front and rear for this setup? 2.3 trail versions front and rear... or 2.6 front? MY 29 front wheel is 30mm inner, and rear is 28mm. I was thinking the 2.35's would probably be right front and rear if they run true to size.
@@JamieMMac Ya if your looking for that then they may be perfect for you. I currently run a 2.6 front which measures more like a 2.5 and I use a 2.35 rear. Not sure who has them in stock as of right now. I appreciate the support through backcountry but don't feel obligated I'm glad to help. The best way to support the channel if your looking to is through Patreon...
How are the Agarro's on wet roots? Seems like wet everything is the 2023 riding season theme in Maine (when you can ride). I am between Mazza Front/Aggaro Rear or Mazza Front/Martello Rear on my Rascal.
For a rascal I'd prolly lean toward a mazza martello combo. But I run a martello front and aggaro rear on my fuel ex and it's pretty awesome. It just depends on how steep of terrain and how much braking traction you need...
Thanks for the Feedback!
Whats the name of this trail?
Grady Wilson and a few others at Lowell dracut
@@Projectnortheast oh no way! I need to get there then. Prettty close by and for some reason never been to either. Thanks!
Hi from NZ. Have looked at several reviews off Vittoria tyres. How do you think Agarro front and Barzo rear would work on mainly grade 3 and 4 trails
Not really sure what grade 3 and 4 trails means but that would be a fast trail set up for xc and trail riding but definitely not suited for enduro style riding
@@Projectnortheast Cool thanks. Grades 3 and 4 trails here are intermediate trails
I just got this tire last week on the front, 27.5 x 2.6. I've never had an mtb tire like this. And I've had about 20. It's rounded like an xc tire but has relatively thick knobs to handle chunk. And very fast, significantly faster than a Rekon. Weight is not a factor with this tire, even on a level surface it glides fast. But it doesn't brake great and honestly, it's pretty sketchy on the front. The side knobs are far below the center. So you are on roller skates with this. I think the 2.35 version would make a great back tire. Front is fast but this tire has very imbalanced traits. You want that elusive KOM, this tire can deliver it but be careful, you have been warned.
Where was this at? I couldn’t understand what you said lol. I’m half deaf. But that’s my bad.
Lowell Dracut state forest