The cat aspect nearly cost Sigorney her role. It was played by several cats trained specifically for their stunts and was very costly. She showed some signs of serious allergy to them and later stated she knew if it came between her and the cats, they would have chosen her to recast. They were not about to eat the cost already sunk into them and rewrite the script for that so she was grateful to learn it wasn't the cats that she was actually allergic to. Apparently it was a combination of the glycerin they used to immate sweat along with the cat hair. Once they stopped using the glycerin, her skin reaction died down and she was fine filming with them.
I have heard that story as well. Maybe they wouldn’t have actually fired her but maybe she felt like they would since that was her first major movie role.
Regarding Aliens: The reason why she agrees to go back to lv426 is NOT the prospect of getting her job back. The reason is to face her post-traumatic stress disorder (she has nightmares constantly), hence the midnight call to Burke. She agrees to come if they destroy the alien(s).
He got several aspects wrong on Aliens. First off a Salvage Ship finds Ripley and brings her back to the base. Second- It IS the same planet, LV-426 from Alien. Ripley’s take of the xeno is what motivates the WY Corp to send someone to look for the derelict ship and what they find is death. When the colony stops transmitting is when they decide to send the Colonial Marines and Ripley as a guide. There were more errors but I pretty much lost my will to listen to much more.
That and her 11 year old daughter died at the age of 68, so there really wasn't anything to go back home to. I would probably be all pissed off and want to go back to destroy the species as well at that point.
@@tylerskiss And there are two reasons why they send in the USCMC, one it's in United Americas Territory and two at this point in time, some of the USCMC Brass had stocks in Weyland Yutani so they had an obligation to the company to help them get a hold of said specimen of the Xenomorph, but after these marines are attacked from say about twenty marines down to four from the attack from the Xenomorphs and all the Marines side with Ripley cause they know she's dealt with this creature before and survived, which in turn makes Burke desperate to try too get Ripley and Newt Implanted with an embryo of the xenomorph which fails.
Mistakes about Aliens: -Ripley was in cryosleep for 50 years -the planet is the same planet. While Ripley was in Cryosee, the company built a colony on that planet -watch the director's cut. Ripley learns her daughter grew , lived a long life, and died. Also, after she tells the company execs oncwhat happened to the Nostromo, Burke contacts the colony and asks them to check out the nest. That's how the aluens killed the ehole colony
The reason Prometheus kind of falls apart near the end isn’t Scott’s fault. There was an extensive dialogue between the engineer and David that he had to cut. That’s why it seems confusing. There’s a backstory as to why the engineer goes berserk etc that was edited out.
@@HaohmaruHL lol. You might be right. I’m very religious myself but I found it fascinating. But yeah, some might freak out about it. Too bad because it really helps a lot in understanding the plot and circumstances etc
@@HaohmaruHL Ridley confirmed that jesus was a engineer that brings knowledge to humans they do not understand and kills him, and this triggers a hate on engineers race who intent to eliminate for good humans but a accident with aliens xenomorph happens that saves humans because the engineers was killed by them before reach Earth
Southern Baptist Christian here: it’s a shame they left that part out because it really would have made the movie much better. Hot take: Prometheus, Covenant, and Alien are the core movies and are all three 9/10. Aliens is a really good addition and alien isolation is a love song to the franchise as a whole. All the other alien movies could not exist and I would be just as happy as they were 3/10 at best
I agree with this, watched horror since I was a kid in the early 90s, Alien being one of them. I'm completely desensitised to it. Yet when I played Alien Isolation, for the first two playthroughs my palms sweat and I jumped out of my skin. Fantastic game.
My mother is also a HUGE fan of the Alien trilogy, so when Prometheus was out with the promise (no pun intended) of being a prequel to Alien, my mom was super excited. No need to say that she was extremely disappointed with the lack of alien action. We went to watch Covenant with a grain of salt, but we actually liked it a lot. Now I'm convincing her to play Alien Isolation haha
@@Shrycelmao ridley directed and produced Prometheous & Covenant🤷🏾♂️ literally created the Alien “lore”, how could he not understand it? Senseless comment
No man... Prometheus and Covenant break all the Alien rules.@@yallTweakin Ridley lost it somewhere... for evidence see Bladerunner 2049, Robin Hood, Napoleon !!!, etc.. His early work was good but he is no more what he used to be.
the importance of jonesy is to display her spectacular leadership. she puts her life on the line to save others again and again, exemplifying the "no soldier left behind" mentality.
I've always been mystified by the link - or complete lack of it - in the 18 years between the end of Covenant and the start of Alien. Was it ever explained why Covenant ws a colony mission. Was earth in trouble> Alien is a mining trip. How do the two gel?
I think that it's more generally an important quality for anyone in any position in life, rather than leadership-specific, but I still agree with the thrust of your point.
Ive had my cat for 17-18 years now. He could have been an hour old and I'd have gone back for him. At his current age, he is my responcibility as much as he is a source of peace that allows me to decompress and heal at the end of a long day. I can't make it without him, and I know he can't make it without me. We either both get out, or we both go down together.
100% agree....people who dont have relationships with animals cant relate to the profound connections that develop between humans and animals. my dog passed 3 years ago and im stil broken. i cant get past it. i never will. animals are every bit as important as humans...they feel the same as we do. they can be happy, scared, sad, depressed, lonely....everything we feel they feel. the only difference is they dont think in language
@@graysonmichael8335 sorry to hear about your dog, I can’t think about my cat not being here, I honestly would be so devastated forever..but you described it perfectly, I don’t think humans deserve animals, they’re too good and pure
@@olivergregor5396 thank you, he was a sensitive, loving and kind individual.. i believe theyre too good for us too. too few people love and appreciate them the way they deserve. i hope your cat lives a long time....he sounds precious.
One of the greatest missed opportunities in the Alien franchise is Weyland-Yutani. "The Company" is the over-arching background antagonist in the entire franchise. The original trilogy seems to be building to some kind of confrontation with Weyland-Yutani but they seem to go a different direction for no logical reason in the third act. That script literally writes itself given what we see in the first two films. Seeing the results of a military-industrial complex taken to extreme limits is as terrifying as the creatures. Moreover, the concept of "they've been here all along" beautifully ties together the Alien and Predator franchises via the first Alien V Predator film. In many ways, the creatures and Weyland-Yutani are EXACTLY alike......
Yea originally that what was Alien 3 going to be about. Sigourney Weaver wanted to step down as Ripley because she felt that her arc was completed. So Michael Biehn as Hicks was gonna become the new main character with Lance Henriksen as Bishop being the secondary character -- the two of them were going to go against Weyland-Yutani in what was gonna be a cold war-esque thriller action movie with aliens in it. Really fascinating idea. But then the cold war ended, other things happened, and then the studio still wanted Weaver so we never got this version :( but there's audio drama starring Biehn and Henriksen of the OG alien 3 concept that was written by William Gibson.
I always go back and forth whether I like Alien or Aliens more. Alien is definitely a master when it comes to suspense and it absolutely clears when it comes to the Sci-Fi/Horror elements, meanwhile Aliens in my opinion has stronger and more likable characters like Hicks, Bishop, and Newt. I really love those first two films and can't decide which one I like over the other. When it comes to Alien 3 I prefer the Assembly cut since it fills in a lot of the plot holes. Also killing off Hicks and Newt in the opening still leaves a sour taste in my mouth, and what they should've done is maybe have Ripley's pod be completely separated from the Sulaco. Despite those complaints I think the Assembly cut of Alien 3 is kind of underrated. Alien Resurrection was a guilty pleasure of mine when I first watched it, but it is absolute dog water, and I probably won't watch it again. I really like Prometheus and Michael Fassbender is absolutely amazing as David. Also speaking of Prometheus, the film was titled "Alien: Engineers", and it originally was going to include xenomorphs in it and it would've taken place on LV-426, making it a direct prequel to the first Alien film, but Ridley Scott didn't want to include the xenomorphs in the film. I have very mixed feelings towards Alien: Covenant but the ending is absolutely chilling.
Had the privilege of watching A3 in the cinema and it was certainly a strange experience. Had grown up with Aliens and laser blasters, so walking into A3 was a shock. Watched Alien shortly after and while amazing, its Aliens that takes my #1 spot
I honestly love them all 😂 it’s the only movie series with multiple sequals that’s ever been made that I enjoyed every one that’s came out. Including Prometheus and covenant. I like where the stories going with regards to the engineers being the creators of our life. Kind of what I believe to be reality in regards to human history
For me its Aliens. It just has so much more going on when you factor in the military element and now we have the ability to fight back a little bit. It was also scary, when the colonial marines enter the nest was great and when the face huggers attack noot and ripley. Bill Paxton had some of the best lines. Game over man. Game over.
Alien is the best. Aliens wouldn’t have even been a film if Scott hadn’t crushed it with his original. The second movie has the best quotable lines, for sure, cuz I’m still using them decades later, lol. A day in the corps is like a day on the farm…
You are missing one core story and that's the one from Alien Isolation. It's a direct sequel to the first film and features Amanda Ripley, Ellen Ripley's daughter, while Ellen is still in cryo-sleep. It is a great story and continues the extended lore but is obviously separate from the original 4 films. There's also a lot of comic stories that are canon to the overarching plot so, I highly recommend checking those out too if you get the chance!
I've always been mystified by the link - or complete lack of it - in the 18 years between the end of Covenant and the start of Alien. Was it ever explained why Covenant ws a colony mission. Was earth in trouble> Alien is a mining trip. How do the two gel?
Amanda is canon without the game. In ALIENS Director's Cut, Burke came to Ellen Ripley to get ready for her testimony in front of the corporate bigwigs. However she only cared for the whereabouts of her daughter. Burke reluctantly revealed that Amanda had passed away 2 yrs before Ellen returned home. This explains why Ellen was so eager to save Newt. A way to raise a daughter she never got to raise. ruclips.net/video/GPItoMfPHLQ/видео.html
Everyone always criticises the 'prometheus academy of running away', but rapace's character DOES go to the side, and nearly gets crushed when the ship falls to the side. I blame the huge amount of memeing on this scene mostly on the editing, there are sooo many cuts in that running scene. I've been watching alien and aliens for longer than I can remember, it was interesting to hear a kind of 'first viewing ' perspective on them, and I learned some bts things I didn't know! 👍
Seeing Alien for the first time in decades, in 1080p was jaw dropping. Everything about the movie looks and feels like a modern blockbuster...except maybe the dated screen/displays. Riveting, scary, and fascinating with so much embedded symbolism it's worth seeing again and again.
I’m actually a huge fan of the 3rd film I like the macabre depressing mood of its story it should’ve finished the saga but alas, the assembly cut is a great final version of such a dark franchise
Same for me, love the 3rd film, the atmosphere and the costumes styling are great. And the 2nd, Aliens, appears to be a bit more 80's stupid adventure movie rather than an horror/thriller film.
@@francoislavaux449a complaint i have is that aliens made the xenomorphs look weak in comparison to the original film. Also some marines are a bit insufferable. Alien 3 had a far more similar atmosphere to the first movie. The cgi is really bad though.
One of the themes about Aliens is motherhood. Ripley learns that her daughter lived a long life and has died while she is still alive. When she finds Newt, Ripley’s maternal instincts takes over and she protects Newt with her life. Same with the Queen and her eggs. I get it. You’re a young cinephile. I was at one point in time too. You’ll start catching on to themes and other things about movies soon enough.
Spent most of last year getting bombarded with your TWD videos, after the final episode I got burnt out and stopped consoooming TWD content altogether. Had this pop up in my recommended, great thing to listen to while at work. Love the long form format.
Nobody can deny that David is a menace to society😂😂. I was also fascinated that James Franco was in a prologue (I saw on youtube😂😂) from before the movie starts for his pod to burn and kill him at the beginning of the covenant movie😂😂. Anyway love the verse and love the vids keep it up🙏🙏.
It wasn’t until I was gathering footage and I saw the prologue (both of them) that I realized James Franco had a bigger role other than appearing on a computer screen for a few seconds 😂 and also the prologue with Dr. Shaw and her rebuilding David really should’ve been in the movie somewhere, not just another short film for the movie. I feel like there’s an extended cut of the film that has all of this stuff in it that would make for a much better movie overall, but they simplified it so that general audiences didn’t have to watch anything beforehand to understand it.
@@mcgaming609 I’m sure most people haven’t seen it either unless they’re big fans of the franchise which is just a shame cause it adds so much to the story
@@thethriftytypewriter agreed I feel like they basically cut major plot for almost no reason because these scenes aren’t even that long so they could’ve been added very easily
This channel should be called "Young people and old movies" or smth. I grew up with these movies so getting new perspective with the power of foresight is interesting. Also, there are cats and it's YOUR cat.
During the timeline portion circa 39:45 Ripley was not picked up by a ship with Colonial Marines. Watch the beginning of Aliens again, as it was a salvage crew who picked up the escape shuttle with Ripley and Jones on it.
There's a FANTASTIC fan edit of Prometheus that I recommend everyone track down. When I showed my brother the Alien films for the first time, we watched the edit and he loved it.
"a rated R star wars" That couldn't be further from what Alien is. Star Wars is a grand sci fi/fantasy adventure, epic in scale. Alien is a terrifying claustrophobic slasher.
also Star Wars was why the studio produced it, but there's no evidence in any of the production materials of a Star Wars influence. If there's one sci-fi series that did influence the original Alien it would be the unmade "jodorowsky" version of Dune which many of the design and writing team worked on.
I literally just binge watched all of the Alien and Predator films and you upload this. Awesome timing. I had a lot of questions about the lore especially after Prometheus and Covenant.
The older i get the more i appreciate this franchise, from thinking Alien was stupid and more like a typical sci fi action movie as a kid to an amazing lore filled universe with ofc the first movie as my favourite and unlike most people but covenant in 2nd place. Mostly due to me appreciating horror less than continuity.
Cool video! Also at 39:45 she didn’t get picked up by a military ship, she was found by a scavenger ship and taken to a Military space station in Earth Orbit. I figured you knew, but I just couldn’t help myself being a nitpicker here. My OCD/partial jerk complex aside-- thank you for the video!!!❤❤
Being a film commentator and not acknowledging or knowing the importance of the fourth film’s director Jean-Pierre Jeunet is a miss. He directed Delicatessen and City of Lost children, and would go on to direct the film Amélie. While no series is defined by its directors, the pedigree and effort in retaining the detectors that it did is perhaps unparalleled.
It's good to see the Ridley Scott prequels finally being appreciated for what they do well, bring in some additional themes and ideas to the Alien universe.
In Prometheus, Charlize's character immediately runs sideways and debris falls in front of her, forcing her to run the other way (and debris is falling all around the ship, as the ship is the only thing blocking it). The ship also isn't falling straight down, but in a kind of oblong manner due to its shape. There are shots showing both things.
I am totally with you on the characters running from the falling ship! A five year old could’ve escaped more easily. Also, maybe part of any space mission training should be: “If you get any calls or signals from an alien planet, don’t pick up the phone!”
I think Covenant and Prometeus are incredibly underrated. I enjoyed them more than i enjoyed the first Alien movie when i saw it 25 years ago. I think they way they are written, they leave so much room for storytelling. They arent very straight forward and they dont overexplain stuff. This is something so rare nowdays.
same, I particularly like Covenant more than a lot of people seem to. I really enjoyed Walter and Daniels, and I'd be sad if we didn't get a conclusion to what happened to them.
@@Ken-fh4jcwatch covenant it's pretty good some decent jump scares, it's better than prom! Some nice twists in it too shame they not going ahead with part 3. Sounds like it was gonna be fucking insane with it's potential.
Thank you so much for this incredible nostalgia trip. As a fan of science fiction, one of the things The Alien movies do for me is combine my nostalgia for the franchise and the feeling of infinity in space. And this video captured that feeling perfectly. I didn't know about the Audible Alien III podcast and I am really glad I found it because after years of waiting I will finally have something new from The Alien franchise to enjoy. This channel definitely earned me clicking the subscribe button. Also, where do you get your music from? It was genuenly great.
I'm also a bit dissapointed by the fact that you didn't mentionned Jean-Pierre Jeunet, the director if the 4th Alien. I've seen a bit of his movies and it's really good !
Promethius is like in my top 10 favs movies. You're crazy. It's so good. Annihilation is another one that gives me the same feeling that this one gives me very eerie.
People that actually have cats treat them with the same kind of love as they would a dog. It’s not difficult to understand that relationship. If you would go back for your dog in that situation then you understand why Ripley went back for her cat. The scene also does more for her character, showing her strong empathy. She doesn’t want an innocent creature to be killed by that monster.
My gf's dog follows me everywhere and loves me so much. She's a real old Yorkie and has a heart of gold. I would totally put my life at risk to make sure she was okay.
You did an amazing and incredible job, putting things in chronological order, and explaining so much more in depth regarding the aliens series. Very impressive! And as grateful as I am for your work, I’m just as grateful for your mother, who is such a big Alien fan to introduce you to the films in the first place. I will be so disappointed if there’s no further film after alien covenant to explain what David was doing and showing us his creations
You need to see extended version of Aliens. Ripley had a daughter who grew old and died while she floated in space. This explains Ripley’s intense interest in Newt, and in next movie, how she died. Ripley had promised to be home for daughter’s 9th ? Birthday.
Ripley having a daughter was only added in for Aliens. in Alien no daughter is ever mentioned. she has a picture of her cat taped to her computer. she also had that cat with her. if she had a daughter don't you think she'd have a picture of her daughter instead of the cat?
I never understood why anyone would rate the second movie even close to first. It’s so much a product of its time, whereas Alien works no matter what. The artistic vision is on another level.
I would love if you share behind the scenes facts, or how they created some scenes, and general production fun facts. For instance the budget for aliens 2, was significantly lower than the 1st movie and they had to show some practical effects in order to get more money. Or that in the scene with sigourney riding the yellow machine there was a very strong man lifting her in order to perform, and for a prank (kinda bad prank) they put a cucumber in his pants to make her feel uncomfortable. More stuff like that, in addition to your content
I totally forgot that there was a Alien video that was coming because the poll was a while ago but glad this video is up this video I couldn't wait to check out 🤘🔥, also this is probably just me but rewatching James Cameron's 2 Terminator movies and Aliens really makes me wish he would go back to making more movies other than just Avatar movies
No I totally feel the same way 😂 I’m not a huge Avatar fan and it would be so cool if he either revisited one of those franchises or came up with something else entirely. But I think we’re ultimately just going to be getting more Avatar movies from him 🤷🏻♂️
@@thethriftytypewriter I know right I'm not a fan of Avatar either and I'm just like give me another movie like Terminator or something or give another action classic like True Lies I love True Lies and hell I will another movie like Titanic if it meant he was doing something other than Avatar 😂, but yeah this man is gonna give us Avatar movies until he ultimately decides to retire which is a shame
I love David’s character, and the way him and David have conflicts on morality, creativity and duty was just amazing, Michael fassbender deserved some kind of reward for covanent. He did an amazing job
In Aliens 2 they actually go to the planet that they found the eggs in the first movie,but it was too late,because colony ship came and Ripley was in cryo sleep... so they found the same ship and got exposed so the whole colony became a hive
If you take Aliens as it was edited (i.e., the unnecessary stuff taken out), it may be one of the best scripts of its kind ever made. Anyone who doesn’t recognize James Cameron as a genius during the 80s and 90s is just blind
The extended/alternate version of Alien 3 is grossly underrated and really needs some more attention from those who aren’t a fan of this movie. It’s probably my favorite Alien movie. I didn’t say it was the best. But my favorite.
I’ve been a fan since I first saw “Aliens” in 91 on LaserDisk. It became my favorite movie. Hell, I acquired the special permits and built a live firing recreation of the pulse rifle. As far as the cat in the first movie, I dug it because it knew a predator was there even though the people didn’t. To me it gave an extra sense of “oh fuck”. And I may be reading too much into this , but the names of the planets relate to real world things, LV426 would be the 426 Hemi and LV 223 is the 223 rifle caliber
@@theramplocal I grew up always wishing I had one and once I turned 18 in 1999 I bought my first shotgun that registered to me, i started getting into working on guns. A Marine pal was an armorer, and he really got me into it in 2004, and a few years later we were watching Aliens and I told him that the pulse rifle was my dream weapon. He just said “then build one”. I did all the research into what it really was and what it would take to make the dream a reality. Believe it or not it took longer for the permits to get approved than it actually took to build it.
I always felt that Prometheus and covenant got bad wraps. I enjoyed the world building and structural updates they provided to the stories within the franchise.
i loved prometheus but hated covenant. it answered too much which the franchise never does. but also it didn't answer enough so i'd rather they hadn't answered anything.
I enjoyed both. On the internet alien rams just complained about both. I wanted another Prometheus movie and that was just shat on by everyone so we got covenant and still just non stop whining.
No. That's what they _attempted_ to do. Look, Scott makes stories that can't be captured in any single movie but refuses to make them into mini-series that would MUCH better suit what he's going for anyway. The Hollywood market would never have paid as much for those, but that's what he needs. Without that extra room much that would make things make a little more sense _AND_ explore the themes as he wants to. As it stands we need Yt channels that show us deleted scenes without which much of his stories make Zero Sense.
People running back home when fire breaks to rescue their pets happens often. I damn know I would run back to rescue my cats from alien. I love them too much. :D
This just came up for me. I've seen others do this timeline stuff with this and Terminator (which is still have to watch) I really enjoyed this video and will be checking out more of your channel
I hated the idea of going back for the cat as well, but recently I realised that she goes back because her path is being blocked so she has to go back and cancel the self destruct. She happens to find the cat on the way. I liked the movie so much more when I finally realised this.
I mean, I watched the movie yesterday, when the Xenomorph appeared she clearly throwed the cat cage into the ground and ran back to deactivate self-destruct. It fails then she goes back the same path she did before and happens to find the cage still there. Idk how people got this scene wrong. Edit: She never came back for the cat, it just happened to the cat be on the path. She saved it because why not, it's better to have company than being alone in cryosleep.
I think the various cave paintings are a result of genetic memories emerging rather than from regular alien interactions. The engineers programmed us to find them once we evolved far enough.
Prometheus is amazing and HEAVILY underrated … seeing it in imax theatres on a that massive screen was absolutely incredible . And the scenery and stuff in the movie is absolute gorgeous
A video about another of my favourite franchises? Thrifty, you really do spoil us. If you want some extra content from the series, play Alien: Isolation. It's definitely worth it.
I like Alien 3 because despite it being a mid sequel and ending to a trilogy, I think it's great in taking the franchise and using it for great metaphors and themes, like religions, guilt, the parallel with motherhood, I like it as much as the first one and I gladly reccomend the assembly cut
At the start of Prometheus we see the first engineer kill himself - I think he is Prometheus: the figure from Greek mythology who steals fire from the gods and gives it to humanity. He is marooned by the other engineers for giving humanity access to technology they don't want them to have. The Greeks gave condemned people the option of killing themselves, so that explains the first engineer/Prometheus character using to poison to kill himself. The other engineers resolve to wipe humanity out. Meanwhile, using the technology that the first engineer/Prometheus character gave to them without permission, humans come to find the engineers, erroneously believing they've been "invited". Moral of the story: a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
If you don't save the cat, you're not a protagonist, and half of the audience hates you, thus, you're not surviving. Don't be a wise-ass, save the cat! 😂
Prometheus and covenant made me want to rewatch everything all over. Without those two and, too, the predator additions, the alien movies would not have had such the pull.
Woah woah that’s not cool Dude. It’s okay to say in a situation where you’re faced with immediate incomprehensible danger you would put yourself first. Plus, it’s just a film. 🤨
I know many people dislike Prometheus, but it's a guilty pleasure of mine. However, despite really liking it, I absolutely hate Aliens: Covenant. First, having a colony ship in an Aliens movie is just begging for sacrificial lambs, which means I didn't care about these people at all. The funniest part is that Riddley Scott tried to get people interested in these characters as they put out some videos introducing them on the internet. Well... it failed. Second, the new Captain is a grade A mor>n. Who in their right mind would go to a planet that literally shouldn't be there at all, yet has a breathable atmosphere, which raises many red flags instead of aiming for their original trajectory? Third, this ratchets the gore to a 9/10, which turned me off. Fourth, the fully grown, tiny aliens that can move flawlessly has to be the d>mbest thing ever. Fifth, the crew does the exact same st
Well when you put it that way… 😂😂😂 all really great points of analysis for the film! I think some of the newer world-building they’ve done hasn’t exactly paid off (or made sense in some cases) but I still think they’re at least good and watchable films.
@@thethriftytypewriter I agree that they're all watchable up until Covenant. Even the less than stellar ones in 3 & Resurrection still don't have the issues that I listed for Covenant. Oh... another mor>nic choice from the Captain that I forgot about: Remember when he finds David talking to the albino alien, and he ends up helping it off this mortal coil? Why in the f>ck would he actually follow David instead of just offing him as well as David was clearly attached to the same creature that just ate one of the Captain's crewmates? Instead... he follows David and becomes the new host. So d>mb. Oh well, at least Michael Fassbender is still nailing his acting... but even he couldn't hold up this movie.
I feel like David's character in Prometheus was meant to represent the relationship between humans and the engineers. David KNEW his creators, and they were callous and cruel. he was a thing they made for a purpose and nothing beyond that purpose, no matter what he wanted. the movie makes it clear that David had the potential to become a real being but it gets stamped out of him by the cruelty of his masters. then we se what happens when humans meet THEIR creators . . . In the end the only thing humans passed on to their creation was the desire to create, regardless of ethics, and that's why we see the monstrosity that David helps birth into the world.
@@mr.blonde5344 Looks like you could use one yeah. And a large portion of "the world" accepts that facts are facts and opinions are like arseholes. You'll learn the difference one day sproto.
"basically if you have a smart person in a movie people are going to want to root for that person." I suppose this may hold some truth, but I think it has more to do with overall character development rather than a characters intellect. I know in the real world this isn't the case, just look at the most popular social media personalities or the politicians who win elections, these are some of the least intellectual people on the planet.
The replicants in Blade Runner are not androids like Bishop and Ash were. They were flesh and blood people basically grown in a lab. But their internals were all identical to a human. If you took a replicants brain and put it by a humans you would not be able to tell the difference. Now the replicants were engineered to be A LOT tougher than humans as you know if you’ve seen Blade Runner. The first one is way better than the sequel. Alien scares me to this day. Something about being literally trapped on a ship in interstellar space with an aggressive alien on board is just terrifying.
I appreciated the more positive look on the franchise, it's like a bunch of loosely related cousins but it's somewhat coherent. For me, Prometheus and Covenant are interesting sci fi films mixed with really stupid survival horror, for the most part. Some cool scenes, but so many relying on contrived dumbness. Engineers who helped map the path get lost, scared to death but still willing to engage with an alien creature for some reason. Alien world that appears to have oxygen, okay let's wear no protective gear at all! Not a mask, no covering for any orifice fuck it! Those parts are dumb, but still, it doesn't ruin it. I'm curious to see what happens especially with how motivated Scott seems these days
‘Aliens’ is not only one of the greatest sequels ever, it’s one of the best films ever, and Ellen Ripley is proof-positive that a lead female character can be an absolute badass *but still retain* her femininity. After missing out on all of her daughter’s life Ripley falls for Newt almost instantly, and she faces down horrors that have slain heavily armed Colonial Marines in order to save Newt. When Newt calls Ripley “mommy” it will hit you right in the feels, and is only slightly lesser than Ripley saying “Get away from my daughter, you bitch!” to the Queen. Afterwards, Ellen officially adopted Newt and after two years of dating Ellen and Hicks were married and went on to have two children of their own in addition to Newt. Bishop was repaired and is still around being a great guy. I don’t care what you say - ‘Alien 3’ and ‘Resurrection’ NEVER HAPPENED. PERIOD.
Keep in mind the Nostromo is a commercial towing vessel. It’s towing that Hugh rig that has all the mining gear and equipment and what ever else. The Nostromo is the ship that landed on the planet. Everything else is in tow.
The cat aspect nearly cost Sigorney her role. It was played by several cats trained specifically for their stunts and was very costly. She showed some signs of serious allergy to them and later stated she knew if it came between her and the cats, they would have chosen her to recast. They were not about to eat the cost already sunk into them and rewrite the script for that so she was grateful to learn it wasn't the cats that she was actually allergic to. Apparently it was a combination of the glycerin they used to immate sweat along with the cat hair. Once they stopped using the glycerin, her skin reaction died down and she was fine filming with them.
Post your source please. There is no way Fox would fire a lead actor because of a cat. Neither would Ridley
I have heard that story as well. Maybe they wouldn’t have actually fired her but maybe she felt like they would since that was her first major movie role.
Amazing what you Learn , never knew that ..Thanks.
@@SeargentBarnesyeah ignore that made up story
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Regarding Aliens: The reason why she agrees to go back to lv426 is NOT the prospect of getting her job back. The reason is to face her post-traumatic stress disorder (she has nightmares constantly), hence the midnight call to Burke. She agrees to come if they destroy the alien(s).
He got several aspects wrong on Aliens. First off a Salvage Ship finds Ripley and brings her back to the base. Second- It IS the same planet, LV-426 from Alien. Ripley’s take of the xeno is what motivates the WY Corp to send someone to look for the derelict ship and what they find is death. When the colony stops transmitting is when they decide to send the Colonial Marines and Ripley as a guide. There were more errors but I pretty much lost my will to listen to much more.
@@tylerskissI finished listening, but he was wrong on a lot of things.
Yeah this guy is fucking ridiculous, in another video he put district 9 in the found footage category....
That and her 11 year old daughter died at the age of 68, so there really wasn't anything to go back home to. I would probably be all pissed off and want to go back to destroy the species as well at that point.
@@tylerskiss And there are two reasons why they send in the USCMC, one it's in United Americas Territory and two at this point in time, some of the USCMC Brass had stocks in Weyland Yutani so they had an obligation to the company to help them get a hold of said specimen of the Xenomorph, but after these marines are attacked from say about twenty marines down to four from the attack from the Xenomorphs and all the Marines side with Ripley cause they know she's dealt with this creature before and survived, which in turn makes Burke desperate to try too get Ripley and Newt Implanted with an embryo of the xenomorph which fails.
Mistakes about Aliens:
-Ripley was in cryosleep for 50 years
-the planet is the same planet. While Ripley was in Cryosee, the company built a colony on that planet
-watch the director's cut. Ripley learns her daughter grew , lived a long life, and died. Also, after she tells the company execs oncwhat happened to the Nostromo, Burke contacts the colony and asks them to check out the nest. That's how the aluens killed the ehole colony
This is also in the book
57 years, not 50.
57 years to be exact
Also not picked up directly by the Sulaco.
She never lived that long she was 65ish
The reason Prometheus kind of falls apart near the end isn’t Scott’s fault. There was an extensive dialogue between the engineer and David that he had to cut. That’s why it seems confusing. There’s a backstory as to why the engineer goes berserk etc that was edited out.
because the dialogue triggers some religious fanatics considering that the original engineer was jesus
@@HaohmaruHL lol. You might be right. I’m very religious myself but I found it fascinating. But yeah, some might freak out about it. Too bad because it really helps a lot in understanding the plot and circumstances etc
@@HaohmaruHL Ridley confirmed that jesus was a engineer that brings knowledge to humans they do not understand and kills him, and this triggers a hate on engineers race who intent to eliminate for good humans but a accident with aliens xenomorph happens that saves humans because the engineers was killed by them before reach Earth
Southern Baptist Christian here: it’s a shame they left that part out because it really would have made the movie much better. Hot take: Prometheus, Covenant, and Alien are the core movies and are all three 9/10. Aliens is a really good addition and alien isolation is a love song to the franchise as a whole. All the other alien movies could not exist and I would be just as happy as they were 3/10 at best
Yes cuz he basically said he took a human to teach you things but you murdered him (Jesus) so it got backlash
Alien isolation is better than any alien film that came out after Aliens
Facts
Alien: Isolation rocked my world.
@@RealBradMilleris that the game?
@@ZachAsaD Yup!
I agree with this, watched horror since I was a kid in the early 90s, Alien being one of them. I'm completely desensitised to it. Yet when I played Alien Isolation, for the first two playthroughs my palms sweat and I jumped out of my skin. Fantastic game.
My mother is also a HUGE fan of the Alien trilogy, so when Prometheus was out with the promise (no pun intended) of being a prequel to Alien, my mom was super excited. No need to say that she was extremely disappointed with the lack of alien action. We went to watch Covenant with a grain of salt, but we actually liked it a lot. Now I'm convincing her to play Alien Isolation haha
Your mom understands the Alien lore.... whoever made Prometheus and Covenant.. did not.
@@Shrycelmao ridley directed and produced Prometheous & Covenant🤷🏾♂️ literally created the Alien “lore”, how could he not understand it? Senseless comment
No man... Prometheus and Covenant break all the Alien rules.@@yallTweakin
Ridley lost it somewhere... for evidence see Bladerunner 2049, Robin Hood, Napoleon !!!, etc..
His early work was good but he is no more what he used to be.
@@Shrycei actually really enjoyed both of the movies. Then again i’ve never even seen any of the alien movies lol so there’s that i guess
Well yeah.. you can't be disappointed in something if you don't know the origins of it...@@yallTweakin
the importance of jonesy is to display her spectacular leadership. she puts her life on the line to save others again and again, exemplifying the "no soldier left behind" mentality.
This is the only comment that has actually made me think differently about that scene. It’s a great point!
a literal "save the cat!" moment. Ripley is truly a hero in every respect.
Plus it’s her cat and the cat is completely defenseless stuck in a cage. A lot of people would grab their dog. It’s the same sentiment on display.
I've always been mystified by the link - or complete lack of it - in the 18 years between the end of Covenant and the start of Alien. Was it ever explained why Covenant ws a colony mission. Was earth in trouble> Alien is a mining trip. How do the two gel?
I think that it's more generally an important quality for anyone in any position in life, rather than leadership-specific, but I still agree with the thrust of your point.
Everyone says they're not a cat person until they meet THEIR kitty. You'll understand, then. I was supremely relieved when she went back for Jones.
Ive had my cat for 17-18 years now. He could have been an hour old and I'd have gone back for him. At his current age, he is my responcibility as much as he is a source of peace that allows me to decompress and heal at the end of a long day. I can't make it without him, and I know he can't make it without me. We either both get out, or we both go down together.
Cats can be faithful and beloved companions. I am a coward and risk-averse, but i would ignore a lot of dangerous things if my boy was in danger.
I fully agree, I’ve had my cat for a year and I would immediately risk my life for him. I’ve never owned a pet before btw
100% agree....people who dont have relationships with animals cant relate to the profound connections that develop between humans and animals. my dog passed 3 years ago and im stil
broken. i cant get past it. i never will. animals are every bit as important as humans...they feel the same as we do. they can be happy, scared, sad, depressed, lonely....everything we feel they feel. the only difference is they dont think in language
@@graysonmichael8335 sorry to hear about your dog, I can’t think about my cat not being here, I honestly would be so devastated forever..but you described it perfectly, I don’t think humans deserve animals, they’re too good and pure
@@olivergregor5396 thank you, he was a sensitive, loving and kind individual.. i believe theyre too good for us too. too few people love and appreciate them the way they deserve. i hope your cat lives a long time....he sounds precious.
One of the greatest missed opportunities in the Alien franchise is Weyland-Yutani. "The Company" is the over-arching background antagonist in the entire franchise. The original trilogy seems to be building to some kind of confrontation with Weyland-Yutani but they seem to go a different direction for no logical reason in the third act. That script literally writes itself given what we see in the first two films. Seeing the results of a military-industrial complex taken to extreme limits is as terrifying as the creatures. Moreover, the concept of "they've been here all along" beautifully ties together the Alien and Predator franchises via the first Alien V Predator film. In many ways, the creatures and Weyland-Yutani are EXACTLY alike......
Yea originally that what was Alien 3 going to be about. Sigourney Weaver wanted to step down as Ripley because she felt that her arc was completed. So Michael Biehn as Hicks was gonna become the new main character with Lance Henriksen as Bishop being the secondary character -- the two of them were going to go against Weyland-Yutani in what was gonna be a cold war-esque thriller action movie with aliens in it. Really fascinating idea. But then the cold war ended, other things happened, and then the studio still wanted Weaver so we never got this version :( but there's audio drama starring Biehn and Henriksen of the OG alien 3 concept that was written by William Gibson.
I always go back and forth whether I like Alien or Aliens more. Alien is definitely a master when it comes to suspense and it absolutely clears when it comes to the Sci-Fi/Horror elements, meanwhile Aliens in my opinion has stronger and more likable characters like Hicks, Bishop, and Newt. I really love those first two films and can't decide which one I like over the other. When it comes to Alien 3 I prefer the Assembly cut since it fills in a lot of the plot holes. Also killing off Hicks and Newt in the opening still leaves a sour taste in my mouth, and what they should've done is maybe have Ripley's pod be completely separated from the Sulaco. Despite those complaints I think the Assembly cut of Alien 3 is kind of underrated. Alien Resurrection was a guilty pleasure of mine when I first watched it, but it is absolute dog water, and I probably won't watch it again. I really like Prometheus and Michael Fassbender is absolutely amazing as David. Also speaking of Prometheus, the film was titled "Alien: Engineers", and it originally was going to include xenomorphs in it and it would've taken place on LV-426, making it a direct prequel to the first Alien film, but Ridley Scott didn't want to include the xenomorphs in the film. I have very mixed feelings towards Alien: Covenant but the ending is absolutely chilling.
Had the privilege of watching A3 in the cinema and it was certainly a strange experience. Had grown up with Aliens and laser blasters, so walking into A3 was a shock. Watched Alien shortly after and while amazing, its Aliens that takes my #1 spot
I honestly love them all 😂 it’s the only movie series with multiple sequals that’s ever been made that I enjoyed every one that’s came out. Including Prometheus and covenant. I like where the stories going with regards to the engineers being the creators of our life. Kind of what I believe to be reality in regards to human history
For me its Aliens. It just has so much more going on when you factor in the military element and now we have the ability to fight back a little bit. It was also scary, when the colonial marines enter the nest was great and when the face huggers attack noot and ripley. Bill Paxton had some of the best lines. Game over man. Game over.
Aliens is the best 😎
Alien is the best. Aliens wouldn’t have even been a film if Scott hadn’t crushed it with his original. The second movie has the best quotable lines, for sure, cuz I’m still using them decades later, lol. A day in the corps is like a day on the farm…
You are missing one core story and that's the one from Alien Isolation. It's a direct sequel to the first film and features Amanda Ripley, Ellen Ripley's daughter, while Ellen is still in cryo-sleep. It is a great story and continues the extended lore but is obviously separate from the original 4 films. There's also a lot of comic stories that are canon to the overarching plot so, I highly recommend checking those out too if you get the chance!
I've always been mystified by the link - or complete lack of it - in the 18 years between the end of Covenant and the start of Alien. Was it ever explained why Covenant ws a colony mission. Was earth in trouble> Alien is a mining trip. How do the two gel?
That game truly is a masterpiece.
Its not a core story.. its a game story.
Amanda is canon without the game. In ALIENS Director's Cut, Burke came to Ellen Ripley to get ready for her testimony in front of the corporate bigwigs. However she only cared for the whereabouts of her daughter. Burke reluctantly revealed that Amanda had passed away 2 yrs before Ellen returned home. This explains why Ellen was so eager to save Newt. A way to raise a daughter she never got to raise.
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I would love a Prometheus prequel, a movie from the engineers view of all the times they showed up, why and what led them to want to trash everything.
I'd fist fight a xenomorph to save my cat 😤
Hell yeah!
Why did i read it as 'fist a xenomorph to save my cat'
@nihaalsandim9986 Hey man, whatever it takes....
@@nihaalsandim9986 whatever I gotta do to get my cat back 😂
Everyone always criticises the 'prometheus academy of running away', but rapace's character DOES go to the side, and nearly gets crushed when the ship falls to the side. I blame the huge amount of memeing on this scene mostly on the editing, there are sooo many cuts in that running scene.
I've been watching alien and aliens for longer than I can remember, it was interesting to hear a kind of 'first viewing ' perspective on them, and I learned some bts things I didn't know! 👍
Seeing Alien for the first time in decades, in 1080p was jaw dropping. Everything about the movie looks and feels like a modern blockbuster...except maybe the dated screen/displays. Riveting, scary, and fascinating with so much embedded symbolism it's worth seeing again and again.
I’m actually a huge fan of the 3rd film I like the macabre depressing mood of its story it should’ve finished the saga but alas, the assembly cut is a great final version of such a dark franchise
Same for me, love the 3rd film, the atmosphere and the costumes styling are great. And the 2nd, Aliens, appears to be a bit more 80's stupid adventure movie rather than an horror/thriller film.
@@francoislavaux449a complaint i have is that aliens made the xenomorphs look weak in comparison to the original film. Also some marines are a bit insufferable.
Alien 3 had a far more similar atmosphere to the first movie. The cgi is really bad though.
One of the themes about Aliens is motherhood. Ripley learns that her daughter lived a long life and has died while she is still alive. When she finds Newt, Ripley’s maternal instincts takes over and she protects Newt with her life. Same with the Queen and her eggs. I get it. You’re a young cinephile. I was at one point in time too. You’ll start catching on to themes and other things about movies soon enough.
Thanks, Dave.
I mean some things are just silly movie decisions Dave regardless of the symbology
Sure Dave
Did not understand the timeline. Watched it twice
Did you do the timeline out of order
Spent most of last year getting bombarded with your TWD videos, after the final episode I got burnt out and stopped consoooming TWD content altogether. Had this pop up in my recommended, great thing to listen to while at work. Love the long form format.
Nobody can deny that David is a menace to society😂😂. I was also fascinated that James Franco was in a prologue (I saw on youtube😂😂) from before the movie starts for his pod to burn and kill him at the beginning of the covenant movie😂😂. Anyway love the verse and love the vids keep it up🙏🙏.
It wasn’t until I was gathering footage and I saw the prologue (both of them) that I realized James Franco had a bigger role other than appearing on a computer screen for a few seconds 😂 and also the prologue with Dr. Shaw and her rebuilding David really should’ve been in the movie somewhere, not just another short film for the movie. I feel like there’s an extended cut of the film that has all of this stuff in it that would make for a much better movie overall, but they simplified it so that general audiences didn’t have to watch anything beforehand to understand it.
@@thethriftytypewriter I agree and I didn’t even see the prologue stuff until about a year after seeing the covenant.😂😂😂
@@mcgaming609 I’m sure most people haven’t seen it either unless they’re big fans of the franchise which is just a shame cause it adds so much to the story
@@thethriftytypewriter agreed I feel like they basically cut major plot for almost no reason because these scenes aren’t even that long so they could’ve been added very easily
@@mcgaming609 yeah it adds what? Like 5 more minutes to the film? 😂
I"m 100% going back for Jonesy, that cat is a national treasure
This channel should be called "Young people and old movies" or smth. I grew up with these movies so getting new perspective with the power of foresight is interesting. Also, there are cats and it's YOUR cat.
During the timeline portion circa 39:45 Ripley was not picked up by a ship with Colonial Marines. Watch the beginning of Aliens again, as it was a salvage crew who picked up the escape shuttle with Ripley and Jones on it.
There's a FANTASTIC fan edit of Prometheus that I recommend everyone track down. When I showed my brother the Alien films for the first time, we watched the edit and he loved it.
"a rated R star wars"
That couldn't be further from what Alien is. Star Wars is a grand sci fi/fantasy adventure, epic in scale. Alien is a terrifying claustrophobic slasher.
not to mention that star wars is a political space opera
also Star Wars was why the studio produced it, but there's no evidence in any of the production materials of a Star Wars influence. If there's one sci-fi series that did influence the original Alien it would be the unmade "jodorowsky" version of Dune which many of the design and writing team worked on.
I literally just binge watched all of the Alien and Predator films and you upload this. Awesome timing. I had a lot of questions about the lore especially after Prometheus and Covenant.
The older i get the more i appreciate this franchise, from thinking Alien was stupid and more like a typical sci fi action movie as a kid to an amazing lore filled universe with ofc the first movie as my favourite and unlike most people but covenant in 2nd place. Mostly due to me appreciating horror less than continuity.
Cool video! Also at 39:45 she didn’t get picked up by a military ship, she was found by a scavenger ship and taken to a Military space station in Earth Orbit. I figured you knew, but I just couldn’t help myself being a nitpicker here. My OCD/partial jerk complex aside-- thank you for the video!!!❤❤
Being a film commentator and not acknowledging or knowing the importance of the fourth film’s director Jean-Pierre Jeunet is a miss. He directed Delicatessen and City of Lost children, and would go on to direct the film Amélie.
While no series is defined by its directors, the pedigree and effort in retaining the detectors that it did is perhaps unparalleled.
It's good to see the Ridley Scott prequels finally being appreciated for what they do well, bring in some additional themes and ideas to the Alien universe.
The engineers are so interesting, I hope the next films shed some more light on them and David is the goat
"I had never actually sat down and watched this entire movie from beginning to end" wuuuuuuut
In Prometheus, Charlize's character immediately runs sideways and debris falls in front of her, forcing her to run the other way (and debris is falling all around the ship, as the ship is the only thing blocking it). The ship also isn't falling straight down, but in a kind of oblong manner due to its shape. There are shots showing both things.
@@baconbenjidestroyer she tripped and ended up on her back at exactly the right time.
I’m saving the cat every time 😅
I am totally with you on the characters running from the falling ship! A five year old could’ve escaped more easily. Also, maybe part of any space mission training should be: “If you get any calls or signals from an alien planet, don’t pick up the phone!”
I think Covenant and Prometeus are incredibly underrated. I enjoyed them more than i enjoyed the first Alien movie when i saw it 25 years ago.
I think they way they are written, they leave so much room for storytelling. They arent very straight forward and they dont overexplain stuff. This is something so rare nowdays.
same, I particularly like Covenant more than a lot of people seem to. I really enjoyed Walter and Daniels, and I'd be sad if we didn't get a conclusion to what happened to them.
I haven’t seen Covenant but I really liked Prometheus. Also Alien 3 isn’t great but I always thought it got more shit than it deserved.
Covenant should go to hell, with that David creator bullshit...
@@Ken-fh4jcwatch covenant it's pretty good some decent jump scares, it's better than prom! Some nice twists in it too shame they not going ahead with part 3. Sounds like it was gonna be fucking insane with it's potential.
just the trailers ruin these films@@jackmullin8962
28:38 the Prometheus school of running away from things.
YESSSS THIS VIDEO IS FINALLY OUT!!!
Thank you so much for this incredible nostalgia trip. As a fan of science fiction, one of the things The Alien movies do for me is combine my nostalgia for the franchise and the feeling of infinity in space. And this video captured that feeling perfectly. I didn't know about the Audible Alien III podcast and I am really glad I found it because after years of waiting I will finally have something new from The Alien franchise to enjoy. This channel definitely earned me clicking the subscribe button.
Also, where do you get your music from? It was genuenly great.
I'm also a bit dissapointed by the fact that you didn't mentionned Jean-Pierre Jeunet, the director if the 4th Alien. I've seen a bit of his movies and it's really good !
Promethius is like in my top 10 favs movies. You're crazy. It's so good. Annihilation is another one that gives me the same feeling that this one gives me very eerie.
If that cat had been a Golden Retriever, you would definitely have gone back to save the dog....
Make it a German Shepard and you got me
I feel low key obsessed with your channel dude!
People that actually have cats treat them with the same kind of love as they would a dog. It’s not difficult to understand that relationship. If you would go back for your dog in that situation then you understand why Ripley went back for her cat. The scene also does more for her character, showing her strong empathy. She doesn’t want an innocent creature to be killed by that monster.
Personally, I'd go back for a pet squirrel. Type of animal makes no difference.! lolol
Alright calm down over there buddy.
@@watchmehope6560he/she makes a perfectly valid point for which you should show more respect.
My gf's dog follows me everywhere and loves me so much. She's a real old Yorkie and has a heart of gold. I would totally put my life at risk to make sure she was okay.
He sounded like a sociopath saying that ngl.
You did an amazing and incredible job, putting things in chronological order, and explaining so much more in depth regarding the aliens series. Very impressive! And as grateful as I am for your work, I’m just as grateful for your mother, who is such a big Alien fan to introduce you to the films in the first place. I will be so disappointed if there’s no further film after alien covenant to explain what David was doing and showing us his creations
You need to see extended version of Aliens. Ripley had a daughter who grew old and died while she floated in space. This explains Ripley’s intense interest in Newt, and in next movie, how she died. Ripley had promised to be home for daughter’s 9th ? Birthday.
Amanda Ripley from alien isolation:)
Ripley having a daughter was only added in for Aliens.
in Alien no daughter is ever mentioned. she has a picture
of her cat taped to her computer. she also had that cat
with her. if she had a daughter don't you think she'd have
a picture of her daughter instead of the cat?
I never understood why anyone would rate the second movie even close to first. It’s so much a product of its time, whereas Alien works no matter what. The artistic vision is on another level.
Both of my cats are worth risking my life over.
I completely see where you're coming from, but idk man
Least insane cat owner
Game over man!
I would love if you share behind the scenes facts, or how they created some scenes, and general production fun facts. For instance the budget for aliens 2, was significantly lower than the 1st movie and they had to show some practical effects in order to get more money. Or that in the scene with sigourney riding the yellow machine there was a very strong man lifting her in order to perform, and for a prank (kinda bad prank) they put a cucumber in his pants to make her feel uncomfortable.
More stuff like that, in addition to your content
Just rewatched Prometheus, great visuals, score and its aged really well
I totally forgot that there was a Alien video that was coming because the poll was a while ago but glad this video is up this video I couldn't wait to check out 🤘🔥, also this is probably just me but rewatching James Cameron's 2 Terminator movies and Aliens really makes me wish he would go back to making more movies other than just Avatar movies
No I totally feel the same way 😂 I’m not a huge Avatar fan and it would be so cool if he either revisited one of those franchises or came up with something else entirely. But I think we’re ultimately just going to be getting more Avatar movies from him 🤷🏻♂️
@@thethriftytypewriter I know right I'm not a fan of Avatar either and I'm just like give me another movie like Terminator or something or give another action classic like True Lies I love True Lies and hell I will another movie like Titanic if it meant he was doing something other than Avatar 😂, but yeah this man is gonna give us Avatar movies until he ultimately decides to retire which is a shame
I love David’s character, and the way him and David have conflicts on morality, creativity and duty was just amazing, Michael fassbender deserved some kind of reward for covanent. He did an amazing job
In Aliens 2 they actually go to the planet that they found the eggs in the first movie,but it was too late,because colony ship came and Ripley was in cryo sleep... so they found the same ship and got exposed so the whole colony became a hive
If you take Aliens as it was edited (i.e., the unnecessary stuff taken out), it may be one of the best scripts of its kind ever made. Anyone who doesn’t recognize James Cameron as a genius during the 80s and 90s is just blind
Alien 3 is the second favorite movie after Alien for so many fans. Who watched in theaters like me, it was an incredible experience.
The extended/alternate version of Alien 3 is grossly underrated and really needs some more attention from those who aren’t a fan of this movie. It’s probably my favorite Alien movie. I didn’t say it was the best. But my favorite.
I’ve been a fan since I first saw “Aliens” in 91 on LaserDisk. It became my favorite movie. Hell, I acquired the special permits and built a live firing recreation of the pulse rifle. As far as the cat in the first movie, I dug it because it knew a predator was there even though the people didn’t. To me it gave an extra sense of “oh fuck”. And I may be reading too much into this , but the names of the planets relate to real world things, LV426 would be the 426 Hemi and LV 223 is the 223 rifle caliber
Dude, you have a real pulse rifle? That is badazz!
@@theramplocal i sure do! I have a blast letting other people shoot it and see the looks on their faces
@@theramplocal I grew up always wishing I had one and once I turned 18 in 1999 I bought my first shotgun that registered to me, i started getting into working on guns. A Marine pal was an armorer, and he really got me into it in 2004, and a few years later we were watching Aliens and I told him that the pulse rifle was my dream weapon. He just said “then build one”. I did all the research into what it really was and what it would take to make the dream a reality. Believe it or not it took longer for the permits to get approved than it actually took to build it.
Would be cool to take that pulse rifle down to skid row.
When I was a kid we just used. Magnifying glass and the sun to melt the hobo
@@oldironsides4107 damn son
This is not important to the explanation but for some weird reason that bit about the cat, made me laugh harder than I needed to 😂😂😂😂
I always felt that Prometheus and covenant got bad wraps. I enjoyed the world building and structural updates they provided to the stories within the franchise.
i loved prometheus but hated covenant. it answered too much which the franchise never does. but also it didn't answer enough so i'd rather they hadn't answered anything.
@@nour.ismailcould u elaborate
On what u mean when u say they answered to much but also didn’t answer enough im interested :))
Me too I loved them both personally
I enjoyed both. On the internet alien rams just complained about both.
I wanted another Prometheus movie and that was just shat on by everyone so we got covenant and still just non stop whining.
No. That's what they _attempted_ to do. Look, Scott makes stories that can't be captured in any single movie but refuses to make them into mini-series that would MUCH better suit what he's going for anyway. The Hollywood market would never have paid as much for those, but that's what he needs. Without that extra room much that would make things make a little more sense _AND_ explore the themes as he wants to. As it stands we need Yt channels that show us deleted scenes without which much of his stories make Zero Sense.
Alien isn’t Ridely Scott’s story, it’s Dan O’Bannon’s story. Scott is “only” a director.
Great stuff! Only one issue. You said the marines rescued Ripley when they didn't. A salvage team found her.
People running back home when fire breaks to rescue their pets happens often. I damn know I would run back to rescue my cats from alien. I love them too much. :D
In Alien Resurrection, Ripley isn't the same Ripley. She's a clone hybrid of a human and alien DNA. That's why she acts "weird".
I feel like he made that painstakingly clear?
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This just came up for me. I've seen others do this timeline stuff with this and Terminator (which is still have to watch) I really enjoyed this video and will be checking out more of your channel
I hated the idea of going back for the cat as well, but recently I realised that she goes back because her path is being blocked so she has to go back and cancel the self destruct. She happens to find the cat on the way. I liked the movie so much more when I finally realised this.
Could it also be to combat the future loneliness she would experience in space ?
youd also have to eventually deal with alien cat, which is invincible
I mean, I watched the movie yesterday, when the Xenomorph appeared she clearly throwed the cat cage into the ground and ran back to deactivate self-destruct. It fails then she goes back the same path she did before and happens to find the cage still there. Idk how people got this scene wrong.
Edit: She never came back for the cat, it just happened to the cat be on the path. She saved it because why not, it's better to have company than being alone in cryosleep.
I think the various cave paintings are a result of genetic memories emerging rather than from regular alien interactions.
The engineers programmed us to find them once we evolved far enough.
Prometheus is amazing and HEAVILY underrated … seeing it in imax theatres on a that massive screen was absolutely incredible . And the scenery and stuff in the movie is absolute gorgeous
A video about another of my favourite franchises? Thrifty, you really do spoil us. If you want some extra content from the series, play Alien: Isolation. It's definitely worth it.
I was playing Aliens Fireteam Elite and it was okay but I’ve heard good things about Isolation
I like Alien 3 because despite it being a mid sequel and ending to a trilogy, I think it's great in taking the franchise and using it for great metaphors and themes, like religions, guilt, the parallel with motherhood, I like it as much as the first one and I gladly reccomend the assembly cut
love your commentary but Ripley is definitely valid for going back for the cat
Awesome vid my dude! I was recently looking for a timeline and yours is easy better than the one I watched previously by far!
At the start of Prometheus we see the first engineer kill himself - I think he is Prometheus: the figure from Greek mythology who steals fire from the gods and gives it to humanity. He is marooned by the other engineers for giving humanity access to technology they don't want them to have. The Greeks gave condemned people the option of killing themselves, so that explains the first engineer/Prometheus character using to poison to kill himself. The other engineers resolve to wipe humanity out. Meanwhile, using the technology that the first engineer/Prometheus character gave to them without permission, humans come to find the engineers, erroneously believing they've been "invited". Moral of the story: a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
i just want to say thanks for not using a robo voice. great video!
If you don't save the cat, you're not a protagonist, and half of the audience hates you, thus, you're not surviving.
Don't be a wise-ass, save the cat! 😂
Prometheus and covenant made me want to rewatch everything all over. Without those two and, too, the predator additions, the alien movies would not have had such the pull.
Assembly cut changes the film so much that it becomes a personal favourite
your tirade about refusing to run back to save the cat tells me all i need to know about you as a person :)
Woah woah that’s not cool Dude. It’s okay to say in a situation where you’re faced with immediate incomprehensible danger you would put yourself first. Plus, it’s just a film. 🤨
"This is probably the best horror movie ever made in human history and will be remembered for decades to come" - 8.1256789/10
I Will defend Alien 3 until my death. Such an underrated classic!
You did not watch the special editions?
Please go back and watch those. ❤
PS: Watch the Job Willins edit of Prometheus/Covenant.
I know many people dislike Prometheus, but it's a guilty pleasure of mine. However, despite really liking it, I absolutely hate Aliens: Covenant.
First, having a colony ship in an Aliens movie is just begging for sacrificial lambs, which means I didn't care about these people at all. The funniest part is that Riddley Scott tried to get people interested in these characters as they put out some videos introducing them on the internet. Well... it failed.
Second, the new Captain is a grade A mor>n. Who in their right mind would go to a planet that literally shouldn't be there at all, yet has a breathable atmosphere, which raises many red flags instead of aiming for their original trajectory?
Third, this ratchets the gore to a 9/10, which turned me off.
Fourth, the fully grown, tiny aliens that can move flawlessly has to be the d>mbest thing ever.
Fifth, the crew does the exact same st
Well when you put it that way… 😂😂😂 all really great points of analysis for the film! I think some of the newer world-building they’ve done hasn’t exactly paid off (or made sense in some cases) but I still think they’re at least good and watchable films.
@@thethriftytypewriter I agree that they're all watchable up until Covenant. Even the less than stellar ones in 3 & Resurrection still don't have the issues that I listed for Covenant. Oh... another mor>nic choice from the Captain that I forgot about: Remember when he finds David talking to the albino alien, and he ends up helping it off this mortal coil? Why in the f>ck would he actually follow David instead of just offing him as well as David was clearly attached to the same creature that just ate one of the Captain's crewmates? Instead... he follows David and becomes the new host. So d>mb.
Oh well, at least Michael Fassbender is still nailing his acting... but even he couldn't hold up this movie.
Your Mom Rocks! Alien & Aliens is a once a year celebration in my household!
As a cat person, I will save my cat or any cat.
Agreed. Honestly it could’ve been any furry friend on that ship I wouldn’t want to leave them behind
I feel like David's character in Prometheus was meant to represent the relationship between humans and the engineers. David KNEW his creators, and they were callous and cruel. he was a thing they made for a purpose and nothing beyond that purpose, no matter what he wanted. the movie makes it clear that David had the potential to become a real being but it gets stamped out of him by the cruelty of his masters.
then we se what happens when humans meet THEIR creators . . .
In the end the only thing humans passed on to their creation was the desire to create, regardless of ethics, and that's why we see the monstrosity that David helps birth into the world.
Every movie after Aliens was a mistake and should be ignored.
Prometheus isn’t that bad
@@ilovefuzzycatsthank you
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alien 3 assembly cut is great
Well technically Prometheus and Covenant were BEFORE Aliens.
I know, there always a person like me in every crowd.
"R rated Star Wars without lightsabers"..... DUNE!!!!
I love "Alien 3." There. I said it.
You’re not as unique as you want the world to believe chief.
@noneya3635 The world can believe whatever it wants. Someone need nappy?
@@mr.blonde5344 Looks like you could use one yeah. And a large portion of "the world" accepts that facts are facts and opinions are like arseholes. You'll learn the difference one day sproto.
@noneya3635 You're a weird fvcker, aren't ya? You having a bad day, sir?
@@noneya3635 wtf are you talking about?
"basically if you have a smart person in a movie people are going to want to root for that person." I suppose this may hold some truth, but I think it has more to do with overall character development rather than a characters intellect. I know in the real world this isn't the case, just look at the most popular social media personalities or the politicians who win elections, these are some of the least intellectual people on the planet.
The replicants in Blade Runner are not androids like Bishop and Ash were. They were flesh and blood people basically grown in a lab. But their internals were all identical to a human. If you took a replicants brain and put it by a humans you would not be able to tell the difference. Now the replicants were engineered to be A LOT tougher than humans as you know if you’ve seen Blade Runner. The first one is way better than the sequel. Alien scares me
to this day. Something about being literally trapped on a ship in interstellar space with an aggressive alien on board is just terrifying.
I appreciated the more positive look on the franchise, it's like a bunch of loosely related cousins but it's somewhat coherent. For me, Prometheus and Covenant are interesting sci fi films mixed with really stupid survival horror, for the most part. Some cool scenes, but so many relying on contrived dumbness. Engineers who helped map the path get lost, scared to death but still willing to engage with an alien creature for some reason. Alien world that appears to have oxygen, okay let's wear no protective gear at all! Not a mask, no covering for any orifice fuck it! Those parts are dumb, but still, it doesn't ruin it. I'm curious to see what happens especially with how motivated Scott seems these days
Loved Prometheus and Covenant. Big novel reader
Love the Dead of the Night round song at the beginning! Also good video overall 👍
The assembly cut is way better than the other one.
‘Aliens’ is not only one of the greatest sequels ever, it’s one of the best films ever, and Ellen Ripley is proof-positive that a lead female character can be an absolute badass *but still retain* her femininity. After missing out on all of her daughter’s life Ripley falls for Newt almost instantly, and she faces down horrors that have slain heavily armed Colonial Marines in order to save Newt. When Newt calls Ripley “mommy” it will hit you right in the feels, and is only slightly lesser than Ripley saying “Get away from my daughter, you bitch!” to the Queen.
Afterwards, Ellen officially adopted Newt and after two years of dating Ellen and Hicks were married and went on to have two children of their own in addition to Newt. Bishop was repaired and is still around being a great guy.
I don’t care what you say - ‘Alien 3’ and ‘Resurrection’ NEVER HAPPENED. PERIOD.
Keep in mind the Nostromo is a commercial towing vessel. It’s towing that Hugh rig that has all the mining gear and equipment and what ever else. The Nostromo is the ship that landed on the planet. Everything else is in tow.
Alien to the third power, love it haha
Thats a nice intro “hey guys I JUST STARTED watching this so here is a TIMELINE” 😅
Turns out Disney would make an r rated star wars without lightsabers.
Love this video essays! Love this franchise