In the past months your videos keep getting better and more useful for all of us. I played a highly rated player who derided them as 'basics'. For 90% at least of us, trying to master table tennis, that's exactly what we need! I love the complexity and craft of real table tennis, and I think you communicate the same affection, as well as describing technique more clearly than anyone.
Thank you sir. I think it is easy for more advanced players to take the basics for granted. But for any developing player, the basics are essential. Master the basics and everything becomes much easier.
Craig and Tom, you are great at explaining to the camera. My favourite moment is when Tom celebrates to the camera after finally beating the mighty Craig.
Good strategy for defensive player. For offensive player, flick with good placement is rather better. Attacking push can be returned with a push. You will have to deal with back spin you put on that attack. Where as a flick, its easier to finish the ball with flick or if returned, it comes rolling and can be returned with a regular topspin. Its hard to execute both attacking push and flick. You need great touch and controlled shot.
@@craigyb22 glad to hear that it's in past. Probably I didn't notice it in the earlier videos. Thanks a lot for your tips - they are very practical and easy explained.
I was precisely looking for this type of videos because I came to face a player who today we are at similar levels but my rival in that match had good training in his youth so despite not being active and returning to play, he was left with a very good speed of movement good footwork, so even though I really enjoy attacking there were times when I did it and ended up trying to get to the other corner half of the time without success, I didn't have that speed from him since I'm not used to training like he did. I started attacking less to analyze it and I started just pushing and I realized that he felt less comfortable and there were times when between push vs push he failed more and left balls half high and I crushed them despite the backspin, however he started to read me very well and even though I knew that was the side I should attack, I realized that when facing someone who had a good training rhythm in the past, my push was somewhat light or very medium so there were moments in which in reality He didn't feel pressure and I knew immediately that if my push was stronger he could have even won easily, I lost that match 3-2 and in the last set 11-9. Just by having made 5 points with a good aggressive push I could have changed the story, now I know and I will try to put my aggressive push into practice
Keep in mind that for many seasoned loopers, _any_ kind of long-and often even half-long-push return is a gift. In my day, I would intercept a fast push right at the back edge of the table, even if it meant looping it right off the bounce.
Yes, this will work against short sidespin serves and short topspin serves. You need to adjust your bat angle and swing trajectory, by brushing down the back of the ball more. It can be tricky to do, but definitely possible.
Is this a bit different from a long push, or is this the best way of playing a long push? I've been using a tactic of long pushing to my opponent's backhand corner to get an opening, and I've never really considered the speed and spin, just the placement. I'll see if I can't upgrade to this shot instead!
It's a more aggressive long push. There's a bit more risk as you are adding more speed and spin, but if you can execute it consistently, then it can be much harder to return than a slower long push with medium spin.
Very good video Graig and Tom. I hate to push. Because it's so boring. But the attack shot looks good to play offensively. I think a lot of opponents will misinterpret this technique and have a hard time countering. I'll try it. But where is the contact point on the bat? Keep it up!
Ideally you need to contact towards the edge of the rubber. This will be the fastest moving part and will give a longer contact time. Middle of the rubber is ok, but you won't get quite as much spin.
Hello coach, thank you for your great videos, i want to ask a common question and have a confuse about it please. if the ball touch my finger or hand which grip the racket during a rally, is this a fault and my opponent get that point or not ?? Thank you coach
If the ball touches your hand above the wrist, i.e. hand and fingers, then it is ok. If it touches you below the wrist, then it is your opponent's point.
Great skill but that's not simple as i thougt tom. First we must can evaluate of the spin of our opponent to adjust the blade angle, is it low, medium or hard backpsin.
@@craigyb22 Thank you sir for your reply. This channel means a lot to me. As I am a beginner, your efforts on this channel are helping me in becoming a better player in this game. Keep it up sir and at last thank you so much once again.
Hey Tom, how about a video about contact points on the bat while executing different strokes like forehand backhand loop or different serves like pendulum, hook, backhand and so on? I guess it would be really helpful for a lot of people to know where to hit the ball for maximum spin/speed/float depending on where one hits the ball on the bat.
Yes, it can still be done if the serve is lower. You might not be able to get quite so much speed, but you can still get very good depth and lots of backspin.
@@craigyb22 I also keep the finger raised to the center of the bat for my FH topsins. I have a lot more control like that and I can feel the ball, as it usually hits the front part of my bat exactly where my finger is. If I keep the finger normally (perpendicular to the handle) I can put more spin onto the ball but I feel that I am missing more shots and that I can't really feel shot, thus worse control. I asked several coaches and they all said it's ok, everyone has his style, whatever feels better for you, especially when what you're doing actually gets the job done (if I were to miss shots or not able to put spin on the ball it would have been a problem, but like this for me it's just a consistent way of playing good shots).
It's a special grip I invented myself. It's called the 'Tom Lodziak' grip. And I'm the only one who uses it. Ha! On a more serious note, I really don't think my finger position effects me too much. It creeps up when I play forehand topspin, but I adjust it for other strokes. I take coaching myself and my coach is a bit puzzled by it. He sees that my finger position is not ideal, but it doesn't seem to effect my play. I have lots and lots of things I need to improve as a player. My finger position on forehand topspins is the least of my worries!
Andyrfa ‘A giant thing...’? A push is a means to return a short serve. Any long serve we would encourage attacking players to topspin the ball. It can be done from a longer ball but the difficultly would increase.
Andyrfa You’re welcome to think that it’s a giant thing. All of the demonstrations that we done on this shot were from a short serve. So to me it seems fairly obvious that we are advocating that it’s a good shot to use against a short serve. We’ve not said, ‘you can do this shot whenever...’ So, as I say you’re welcome to think what you think but I respectfully disagree.
@@craigyb22 Yeah, for a beginner that *is* going to be a big thing. Anyway, your job is to make your videos look striking, look like... (Michael Angelo Batio's words)... a key to the Lamborghini. Well why not, let's respectfully agreed to disagree. I really appreciate it that you actually replied to my comment, never expect that.
@@MegaMalik90 Craig has responded in a remarkably restrained and respectful way. I do not think you deserved that. I, for one, am incredibly grateful for this channel and the detailed coaching, as someone who could never afford to pay for someone like Craig to teach me in person. Your conspiracy theory is more bizarre than Area 51 claims. Maybe Craig is lying to us because he is actually an alien who is hoping to leave planet Earth vulnerable to table tennis counter-attack. Ooh, I hadn't thought of that; you could be right. I take it back. Thank you for making the human race alert to Craig's nefarious strategy.
In the past months your videos keep getting better and more useful for all of us. I played a highly rated player who derided them as 'basics'. For 90% at least of us, trying to master table tennis, that's exactly what we need! I love the complexity and craft of real table tennis, and I think you communicate the same affection, as well as describing technique more clearly than anyone.
Thank you sir. I think it is easy for more advanced players to take the basics for granted. But for any developing player, the basics are essential. Master the basics and everything becomes much easier.
Craig and Tom, you are great at explaining to the camera. My favourite moment is when Tom celebrates to the camera after finally beating the mighty Craig.
Ha! It doesn't happen very often, so worth celebrating when I am able to win a point against Craig.
Excellent video. I've been working on increasing under-spin and side-spin. This is an excellent addition to anyone's arsenal of shots. Thanks!
The prefect guide !!! You answered the as they popped in my mind !!!
Damn 4:45 is a really important time, most people who do the attacking push dont expect the ball to come back
Thank you ,very motivating to keep going at it ...your one video at a time !
thanks a lot Tom to bring Craig .. great video
Good video. Most players assume attacking play as hitting brutal smashes.
Another excellent, very helpful video. Thank you.
Good video guys. Nicely covered what comes back in response to the attacking push.
Great tip, can't wait to try it out
Got some great tips from your channel Tom, thanks
Thnx a lot for this May god bless you!! And you keep giving advice on table tennis
Thanks for addressing this often disregarded aspect of the game.
Hi coach Mr. Tom and Mr. Brynt 👋👋👋
I am learning a lot from you both.
Thanks to you 🙏🙏
Good strategy for defensive player. For offensive player, flick with good placement is rather better. Attacking push can be returned with a push. You will have to deal with back spin you put on that attack. Where as a flick, its easier to finish the ball with flick or if returned, it comes rolling and can be returned with a regular topspin. Its hard to execute both attacking push and flick. You need great touch and controlled shot.
This is gold👍👏🤟.thanks for the video
Tom and Craig... good tutorial here!
is all ok with Craig? what is with the scar?
costaches
It’s from an accident I had many many years ago!
@@craigyb22 glad to hear that it's in past. Probably I didn't notice it in the earlier videos. Thanks a lot for your tips - they are very practical and easy explained.
Thanks for another tips😁
Great vid!
as always, great info! Thx a lot.
Nice, it looks very useful
I was precisely looking for this type of videos because I came to face a player who today we are at similar levels but my rival in that match had good training in his youth so despite not being active and returning to play, he was left with a very good speed of movement good footwork, so even though I really enjoy attacking there were times when I did it and ended up trying to get to the other corner half of the time without success, I didn't have that speed from him since I'm not used to training like he did. I started attacking less to analyze it and I started just pushing and I realized that he felt less comfortable and there were times when between push vs push he failed more and left balls half high and I crushed them despite the backspin, however he started to read me very well and even though I knew that was the side I should attack, I realized that when facing someone who had a good training rhythm in the past, my push was somewhat light or very medium so there were moments in which in reality He didn't feel pressure and I knew immediately that if my push was stronger he could have even won easily, I lost that match 3-2 and in the last set 11-9. Just by having made 5 points with a good aggressive push I could have changed the story, now I know and I will try to put my aggressive push into practice
Quality video, nice job.
Craig is a beast💪
What setup are you guy's currently playing? TOM thank you so much for your great work👌🏓💙
GI Joe
Thanks 😁
Currently Joola Fight TPE with Joola Rhyzm-Tech on both sides.
Great videos. Maybe put some textile on a wall to reduce echoing.
Thank you.
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Hi Tom - what's the best way to deal with such an attacking push?
Dan
Great stuff ... especially after my play last night. Watch out next time, Mr. Nguyen. :)
Keep in mind that for many seasoned loopers, _any_ kind of long-and often even half-long-push return is a gift.
In my day, I would intercept a fast push right at the back edge of the table, even if it meant looping it right off the bounce.
Always profitable to return visioning good old weaponised push. Tom you play the perfect underdog ...please give a good lesson to Craig. Cheers.
Will it work against heavy sidespin ? Thanks you both for sharing .I hate sidespinned serve !
Yes, this will work against short sidespin serves and short topspin serves. You need to adjust your bat angle and swing trajectory, by brushing down the back of the ball more. It can be tricky to do, but definitely possible.
Hu
Please advise how to impart really heavy backspin on the forehand and backhand
I look forward to seeing the advice
Thanks
Evil , you said ...look @ Tom facial expression at 2.55 , priceless . Merci beaucoup Guys.
It was a painful experience for me. I did not enjoy making this video!
🏓 相手が嫌がる攻撃プッシュ ‼︎ 明後日に この技が使えそうだ！ ありがとう‼︎ 👍
Is this a bit different from a long push, or is this the best way of playing a long push? I've been using a tactic of long pushing to my opponent's backhand corner to get an opening, and I've never really considered the speed and spin, just the placement. I'll see if I can't upgrade to this shot instead!
It's a more aggressive long push. There's a bit more risk as you are adding more speed and spin, but if you can execute it consistently, then it can be much harder to return than a slower long push with medium spin.
Thanks, nice
what wood and rubber do you use? the thickness of the sponge and the brand
Very good video Graig and Tom. I hate to push. Because it's so boring. But the attack shot looks good to play offensively. I think a lot of opponents will misinterpret this technique and have a hard time countering. I'll try it. But where is the contact point on the bat? Keep it up!
Ideally you need to contact towards the edge of the rubber. This will be the fastest moving part and will give a longer contact time. Middle of the rubber is ok, but you won't get quite as much spin.
Okay, thanks a lot! I will try it. 😊
Hello coach, thank you for your great videos, i want to ask a common question and have a confuse about it please.
if the ball touch my finger or hand which grip the racket during a rally, is this a fault and my opponent get that point or not ??
Thank you coach
If the ball touches your hand above the wrist, i.e. hand and fingers, then it is ok. If it touches you below the wrist, then it is your opponent's point.
@@TomLodziak Thank you Tom
Great!!
This answer (the push) is only for backhand underspin?
What paddle as a beginner/ intermediate player should I be using?
I have some advice for you on my website... www.tabletenniscoach.me.uk/table-tennis-equipment/
Super
Great skill but that's not simple as i thougt tom.
First we must can evaluate of the spin of our opponent to adjust the blade angle, is it low, medium or hard backpsin.
is it like chop block ???
Seems to me the same cat with a different name .
No not the same
This is faster and had one direction
Chop is slower and had a two circle directions.
A chop block is against topspin, this is against backspin
@@ali-alasady Thank you so much Ali but what is the meaning of two circle directions.
@@craigyb22 Thank you sir for your reply.
This channel means a lot to me. As I am a beginner, your efforts on this channel are helping me in becoming a better player in this game.
Keep it up sir and at last thank you so much once again.
To crack the evil attack standing a little back is a nice way (or improve your serve xd👍
Please make a video on chopping.I am asking this from long time .please sir
Hey Tom,
how about a video about contact points on the bat while executing different strokes like forehand backhand loop or different serves like pendulum, hook, backhand and so on? I guess it would be really helpful for a lot of people to know where to hit the ball for maximum spin/speed/float depending on where one hits the ball on the bat.
Good idea. I will add to my list!
Make a video on how to improve match play
What is your table? Please answer i am considering to buy one
This is a Cornilleau 500 Indoor table. It belongs to the leisure centre where I make the videos and coach.
@@TomLodziak yeah i kinda knew it. I bought already other table because cornilleau was out of stock.
what's all this handling charge"?
Finally!! A mean push! Series 4 here i come!!!
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П&&&&ц
Tom’s quote in every video: If you want to.........................., then keep watching.
Damn, you noticed. I'll have to change my introductions now!
It seemed like a lot of your serves to Craig weren't that low. Can this attacking push be done when the serve is really low?
Yes, it can still be done if the serve is lower. You might not be able to get quite so much speed, but you can still get very good depth and lots of backspin.
If ball has height why would we opt for attacking push ..Rather wouldn't we go for smash ?
You could push or you could flick. Either option is fine. Choose the option which works best for you.
6:09 oofff
Noce
The bro at work has no idea what I have in store for him
This is pure evil! I will def. use it, lol
❤
Tom, then i see your fails - i fell mach better )
There were lots more! I had to edit a lot out otherwise the video would have been too long.
I guess I was Evil and didn't know it... Chop drive in the corner for the win
6:04 Forehand topspin in slow motion. Tom, a true coach can't grab the paddle the way you're used to. Thus the amateurs grab them. Regrettable.
Paul Ispaul
His finger is up the back of the bat for the forehand only, it’s not a big deal at all. ‘A true coach...’ what nonsense.
@@craigyb22 I also keep the finger raised to the center of the bat for my FH topsins. I have a lot more control like that and I can feel the ball, as it usually hits the front part of my bat exactly where my finger is. If I keep the finger normally (perpendicular to the handle) I can put more spin onto the ball but I feel that I am missing more shots and that I can't really feel shot, thus worse control.
I asked several coaches and they all said it's ok, everyone has his style, whatever feels better for you, especially when what you're doing actually gets the job done (if I were to miss shots or not able to put spin on the ball it would have been a problem, but like this for me it's just a consistent way of playing good shots).
Biggest question about shakehand table tennis ever??
Cant believe this tom guy is a coach LOL. Cant even hold the bat properly.
It's a special grip I invented myself. It's called the 'Tom Lodziak' grip. And I'm the only one who uses it. Ha!
On a more serious note, I really don't think my finger position effects me too much. It creeps up when I play forehand topspin, but I adjust it for other strokes. I take coaching myself and my coach is a bit puzzled by it. He sees that my finger position is not ideal, but it doesn't seem to effect my play. I have lots and lots of things I need to improve as a player. My finger position on forehand topspins is the least of my worries!
tom is a good actor too....in fail compilations.....lol
I wish I were acting!
🏓👍
A giant thing you purposely didn't tell everyone is that *this can only be done to a ball which will bounce twice on the table if you don't hit it*
Andyrfa
‘A giant thing...’? A push is a means to return a short serve. Any long serve we would encourage attacking players to topspin the ball. It can be done from a longer ball but the difficultly would increase.
@@craigyb22 you just blatantly explained why is it a giant thing.
Andyrfa
You’re welcome to think that it’s a giant thing. All of the demonstrations that we done on this shot were from a short serve. So to me it seems fairly obvious that we are advocating that it’s a good shot to use against a short serve. We’ve not said, ‘you can do this shot whenever...’
So, as I say you’re welcome to think what you think but I respectfully disagree.
@@craigyb22 Yeah, for a beginner that *is* going to be a big thing.
Anyway, your job is to make your videos look striking, look like... (Michael Angelo Batio's words)... a key to the Lamborghini.
Well why not, let's respectfully agreed to disagree.
I really appreciate it that you actually replied to my comment, never expect that.
@@MegaMalik90 Craig has responded in a remarkably restrained and respectful way. I do not think you deserved that. I, for one, am incredibly grateful for this channel and the detailed coaching, as someone who could never afford to pay for someone like Craig to teach me in person. Your conspiracy theory is more bizarre than Area 51 claims. Maybe Craig is lying to us because he is actually an alien who is hoping to leave planet Earth vulnerable to table tennis counter-attack. Ooh, I hadn't thought of that; you could be right. I take it back. Thank you for making the human race alert to Craig's nefarious strategy.
Something EVIL
Well, that evil is good.