Someone read my mind here. Just yesterday my coach tried to teach me how to read the amount and type of spin of a serve. And now this video comes up. Exactly what I needed.
Nobody taught me how to read anything about push shots. I practised pushing with a friend who had come back from the world's and had taken note of the Yugoslavians (this was the 70's) practising pushing. They floated, pushed, jab-pushed, tap-pushed, side-spin pushed, as well touch-pushed-just over the net with little 2-per-second rallies right up to the net. Everything I needed to know we practised for an hour, and I never had to learn anything about reading push-shots and basic serves after that. It's learning by doing, seeing, and even hearing: you hear the soft tap of a float return, and the hard, crisp sound of a heavy-spin push, and the forward _jab_ of the blade.
Hello Tom, I really like you bringing in these other experts to teach us. I think this will expand your number of subscribers! Your coverage of these advanced specific aspects is extremely valuable. Thank you.
Thanks Steve. Yes, I want to keep this approach going forwards. Some videos by me and some videos by other coaches. Always good to have different perspectives.
This is such a great video. I find that this is something that I constantly have trouble with - I can see if it's backspin or topspin easily enough, but it's way too easy for me to misread the amount of spin and make a mistake. This is so clearly explained! Thank you.
Hi Tom, I really enjoy and look forward to your helpful tips videos. Just last night I had a great game against one opponent only to start missing most of my loops against another and not knowing why. Thank you for sharing this really makes sense.
Thank you for good tips. One more and very advanced way to read the amout of spin is to carefully watch the ball and the symbol on the ball.. how fast this symbol is rotating.. faster the rotation, more the spin.. but as I said only for advanced players :)
Such a great video - but it would be great if there was a rally clip after his topspin comments too, and another with sound after his comments about listening so that we could actually hear for what he's talking about.
Very good explanations! Thank you very much. But it's not so easy to hear AND to watch the amount of spin. It depends on the opponent how fast or hidden the moves are. The opponent may be using variations that make it difficult to read the spin and the contact point of the ball correctly.
You are correct - it is not easy to watch the bat angle, listen to the sound and then play the appropriate shot. The game is so fast, you have very little reaction time. This is why you have to train for many, many years, until the your play becomes instinctive. You see the contact, you hear the sound and your body automatically knows how to adjust.
My serve is quite good, it has a good amount of backspin and when it hits the enemy’s court, it immediately stops. My serve uses wrist, I like this because its nit that fast and becomes short, but i want to add more spin so it becomes sort of a “ghost serve” but how do i improve that, the rubber that i use is a Yinhe moon i think (i do not know exactly).
Thank you Tom ! Very good video as usual. I have a question: Recently, i improve alot my backhand technics, but i still can't use it effectively in competition. Maybe i think too much about using my backhand and forget to get back to my forehand (and forehand footwork) which is my strength. How can I gradually integrate my backhand into my game?
Initially, you may have to really put yourself in a backhand mindset. So when you play, you tell yourself that you MUST play positive backhand strokes. Don't worry if you make mistakes - this is part of the development process. The more you commit to using your backhand in matches, the more natural it will become. But if you keep stepping around and using your forehand, then your backhand may never develop.
I know a lot of players litterally every-ball--spinners ...once you decyphir them and respond by more agressiveness they meet their defeat . Every time i play soft i am owned by spinners ...my motto : kill his spin. Thanks for the alphabet reading lesson !
Why do table tennis people call it a topspin when the spin is generated more on the back of the ball? Proper topspin must be when you increase the speed to where you actually brush ontop of the ball.
Unfortunately, no easy way to read the spin unless you are familiar with all the shots your opponent uses. This is why pro players practice many types of serve while using just 2 or 3 of them on tournaments.
It does take a lot of time and practice to get good at reading spin AND for your brain to process the information AND for your body to play the appropriate shot in return. From my experience, it takes most players 5-10 years of regular and purposeful practice to get very confident at reading spin well.
Hello Vaultdorr, I'm very disappointed with your remark. I have the very good fortune of training with Mark every week. He's the best coach I've trained with, his attention to detail is second to none. He has so much experience and knowledge, that he trains players at local and national level. My game has improved alot under his tutelage. Vaultdorr, if you live in the Cambridgeshire area. Come down to one of Marks training sessions, I think you'll have a very different opinion.
@@groovecontrol243 I think you misinterpreted what I meant. I don't doubt for one second that the club is great and Mark obviously knows what he's talking about. I was just making a joke about the url (the internet address stneotsttc.co.uk) being a bit difficult to read and communicate :)
Am I the only one who appreciates not only the Mark's technic but also his great pronunciation and voice timbre?
Someone read my mind here. Just yesterday my coach tried to teach me how to read the amount and type of spin of a serve. And now this video comes up. Exactly what I needed.
Nobody taught me how to read anything about push shots. I practised pushing with a friend who had come back from the world's and had taken note of the Yugoslavians (this was the 70's) practising pushing. They floated, pushed, jab-pushed, tap-pushed, side-spin pushed, as well touch-pushed-just over the net with little 2-per-second rallies right up to the net.
Everything I needed to know we practised for an hour, and I never had to learn anything about reading push-shots and basic serves after that. It's learning by doing, seeing, and even hearing: you hear the soft tap of a float return, and the hard, crisp sound of a heavy-spin push, and the forward _jab_ of the blade.
Hello Tom, I really like you bringing in these other experts to teach us. I think this will expand your number of subscribers! Your coverage of these advanced specific aspects is extremely valuable. Thank you.
Thanks Steve. Yes, I want to keep this approach going forwards. Some videos by me and some videos by other coaches. Always good to have different perspectives.
This is such a great video. I find that this is something that I constantly have trouble with - I can see if it's backspin or topspin easily enough, but it's way too easy for me to misread the amount of spin and make a mistake. This is so clearly explained! Thank you.
tremendous tips!!! now, let's go to practicing. ))
I have been thinking about this problem in my play, thank you for this video.
One of the best explained videos
Thank you Mark Mitchell and Tom very much!
Hi Tom, I really enjoy and look forward to your helpful tips videos. Just last night I had a great game against one opponent only to start missing most of my loops against another and not knowing why. Thank you for sharing this really makes sense.
Next time you will get your revenge!
Really helpful for me as a beginner. Great vid.
Thanks Tom and thank you coach for your work. Greatings from Romania!
I wish I could play in super slow motion so I would have time to adjust :-))) great tips, thank you!
Mark seems like a top coach. Keep up the good work Tom.
Yes, Mark is very experienced and coached at a very high level.
Best Video ever, i have seen to this topics. Thank you. Greetings from Minden 🌹 👍
Mark explained very well about the degree I had for many years, thank you so juch
I am your big fan and i had never miss your video
Good video!
Tom Lodziak is a really good coach
My friends who trained with him ... are very pleased
Thank you for good tips. One more and very advanced way to read the amout of spin is to carefully watch the ball and the symbol on the ball.. how fast this symbol is rotating.. faster the rotation, more the spin.. but as I said only for advanced players :)
do not agree, it s just a concentration quality: concentrate and you will acquire this concept of watching !
That's the Indian way we are taught to play like that. It is indeed very effective in the floater you can clearly see the ball has no rotation at all.
Hello Mark and Tom . Very interesting.
Very useful video. Thank you.
thanks a lot coach Tom
Such a great video - but it would be great if there was a rally clip after his topspin comments too, and another with sound after his comments about listening so that we could actually hear for what he's talking about.
Thank you Tom. Thank you very much Mark. Great video. Wow! :D
Wish i had friends to play with
Mstate Gaming you can search some
Where did you live
get a VR SET
VR. It's not the same but 60-70%.
wish i had a table so friends can come
Thank you, very helpful!
excellent! The right video at the right time :-)
Thank you mark❤
Amazing video....👍👍
It would be nice you could explain how to defend these shots.
When the top spin or back spin is heaviest how should we respond or opposite.
Great explanation s
Tom... Thank you so much for that!!!
It's best to give samples of sounds that you were referring to and compare the difference
I'm first, great videoooo finally🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Very good explanations! Thank you very much. But it's not so easy to hear AND to watch the amount of spin. It depends on the opponent how fast or hidden the moves are. The opponent may be using variations that make it difficult to read the spin and the contact point of the ball correctly.
You are correct - it is not easy to watch the bat angle, listen to the sound and then play the appropriate shot. The game is so fast, you have very little reaction time. This is why you have to train for many, many years, until the your play becomes instinctive. You see the contact, you hear the sound and your body automatically knows how to adjust.
excellent, excellent, excellent.. and thank you !
Thank you.
My serve is quite good, it has a good amount of backspin and when it hits the enemy’s court, it immediately stops. My serve uses wrist, I like this because its nit that fast and becomes short, but i want to add more spin so it becomes sort of a “ghost serve” but how do i improve that, the rubber that i use is a Yinhe moon i think (i do not know exactly).
How to play against anti-spin and against long pimples and against short pimples?
TNX, Tom!
Thank you Tom ! Very good video as usual.
I have a question: Recently, i improve alot my backhand technics, but i still can't use it effectively in competition. Maybe i think too much about using my backhand and forget to get back to my forehand (and forehand footwork) which is my strength.
How can I gradually integrate my backhand into my game?
Initially, you may have to really put yourself in a backhand mindset. So when you play, you tell yourself that you MUST play positive backhand strokes. Don't worry if you make mistakes - this is part of the development process. The more you commit to using your backhand in matches, the more natural it will become. But if you keep stepping around and using your forehand, then your backhand may never develop.
@@TomLodziak Thank you coach
Nice
I know a lot of players litterally every-ball--spinners ...once you decyphir them and respond by more agressiveness they meet their defeat . Every time i play soft i am owned by spinners ...my motto : kill his spin. Thanks for the alphabet reading lesson !
I didn’t know that Tim Apple is such a good table tennis coach.
Were good!
Why do table tennis people call it a topspin when the spin is generated more on the back of the ball? Proper topspin must be when you increase the speed to where you actually brush ontop of the ball.
The hard part is to stay focused
Yes, agreed! When my focus drifts, then I make mistakes.
Give one stag blade
They look all the same to me.. damn I really need to practice more..
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Unfortunately, no easy way to read the spin unless you are familiar with all the shots your opponent uses. This is why pro players practice many types of serve while using just 2 or 3 of them on tournaments.
It does take a lot of time and practice to get good at reading spin AND for your brain to process the information AND for your body to play the appropriate shot in return. From my experience, it takes most players 5-10 years of regular and purposeful practice to get very confident at reading spin well.
Tom.. are u Polish???
1/4 polish! My Grandad was from Poland.
@@TomLodziak it's like Tomek Lodziak :D i must have known :) keep creating such great content :)
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this video does not take into account, the amount of spin opponent is giving you..
Oh my god, that was the worst url I have ever seen!
Hello Vaultdorr, I'm very disappointed with your remark. I have the
very good fortune of training with Mark every week. He's the best
coach I've trained with, his attention to detail is second to none.
He has so much experience and knowledge, that he trains players
at local and national level. My game has improved alot under his
tutelage. Vaultdorr, if you live in the Cambridgeshire area. Come down
to one of Marks training sessions, I think you'll have a very different
opinion.
@@groovecontrol243 I think you misinterpreted what I meant. I don't doubt for one second that the club is great and Mark obviously knows what he's talking about. I was just making a joke about the url (the internet address stneotsttc.co.uk) being a bit difficult to read and communicate :)
@@groovecontrol243 no hes not marks a wanker
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